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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

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    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by dan Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:01 am

    Ack,

    Yes, I’m not really sure what 99 is on about.  She should feel free to explain herself.


    I think most of us recognize that, on the surface, we are just going through the motions.  This is likely to be true if we are a big world, a small world, a material world or an immaterial world.  

    The appearance of free will is a very strong one.  That appearance haunts our everyday utterances.  Yet, it is a very slippery concept, when it comes to actually pinning it down.  

    Freedom of expression is another fraught concept....... but not so fraught when you end up in jail for saying the wrong thing in the wrong place.  

    Most of the time you don’t end up in jail, but social approbation has its subtle and not so subtle aspects.  

    I’m not aware of any society being more lax about idiosyncratic expression than is the US, and this tolerance extends well beyond mere utterances.

    Yes, I’m taking advantage of that freedom..... pushing it beyond the pale, even.  All to what end.......?  

    Or, such idiosyncrasy is just my protocol. It all goes back to that morning, early in 1977, when I took the JW bible of the shelf and started flipping through the pages. Exactly what prompted me to do that...... well, I have speculated thereabouts.



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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:48 am

    Uh oh, I keep hitting the escape button on my keyboard but I'm still here. 
    Um, let's see... well... I gotta load the dishwasher now. 
    Peace out! over
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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:54 am

    Look, I got out bed this morning and made it to my keyboard.... what more do you want? lol
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:59 am

    Ack,

    I think that is a rhetorical question...... but I have no very strong opinion on the nature or existence of any Creator.
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:04 am

    Ack,

    I hope that is not too much to ask of 99..... or of anyone.  

    Perhaps we can leave it at that, 99, and proceed.........
    .........


    But please allow me to qualify my previous statement of indifference concerning the ontology of Creatorship......

    I was making a very broad statement...... likely for rhetorical effect.

    I think we all care...... many of us deeply.  I am certainly not care free, in that regard.  
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    Many of us care deeply about the non existence of a Creator...... we may feel terribly put upon by the approbations of believers...... in many places, atheism can be a death sentence.  

    Here, we are coming under the gun...... of a possible Disclosure..... and God knows what that may bring.  

    We moderns are often not aware of the very fragile nature of scientific materialism........ one paranormal prick, and it’s all gone...... and I’m just chicken little.  

    But how many pricks have there been, you may well ask?

    We have recently witnessed the second prick, in the New York Times.  If there were an organ of the secular establishment, that would be it..... yet the world still goes on about its business....... you know.... marrying, burying and all that kind of stuff.  

    And then there was my little briefing last night...... nothing really new, but, still, hearing it from a third party, in a condensed form..... it was a bit like walking through a portal...... or so they tell me.  

    Something this way comes...... slouching toward Bethlehem?  

    You look down at your shoes, and wonder if they could stand a bit of polish.  I’m sure smelly knows the feeling......

    Smile like we mean it.....?

    Of course, it could all blow over..... or under...... but just sayin’.... I can’t pretend not to have a weather eye out.  It’s a small world..... after all...... really small..... whew.....

    A Buddhist, a Christian, an Atheist, a Pagan....... walk into a bar..... on Times Square....... that’s a small world.  

    Are the ducks in a row? What ducks, what row?

    Are we going to tell the scientific establishment to contemplate their navel...... to start growing tomatoes. Yes, that would be the very best advice....... but it takes a little getting used to.



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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:18 am

    I care about you Ack but I think it's time for you to change your name again because with the name you're using now, I feel like I'm talking to a duck because it rhymes with "quack!". Just say'n

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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:32 am

    That's ok Ack.... next time I'm out I'll pick up a container of worms at the bait and tackle store for you. Maybe that will help.
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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:43 am

    There you have it! lol
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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:06 am

    A Buddhist, a Christian, an Atheist, a Pagan....... walk into a bar..... on Times Square....... that’s a small world. ~ dan


    I think we're getting closer to the part that's going to call for dramatic ambient lighting...


    ... maybe a hooting owl in the background wouldn't hurt either. 
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:12 am

    Ack wrote:If I changed it then smelly couldn't call me Ack sack...I better not

    Damn I’m funny.

    The tic tax shit is weird.

    No doubt.

    I mean, is it fake, seems like they wouldn’t be so public if they had faked it.

    I guess the overdub is fake.

    I asked people if they had heard of it, no one had really or cared.

    Tucker Carlson had said it was the biggest story no one was talking about.

    No one has come on to debunk them.

    You notice that?

    No one challenged them.

    It feels like PR propaganda programming on a certain level.


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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:25 am

    A Buddhist, a Christian, an Atheist, a Pagan....... walk into a bar..... on Times Square....... that’s a small world. ~ dan




    Just a thought...I agree but, as we know, it's a dog eat dog world but we have to learn how to live with each other and forgive all of the bad things we do because we're all made of the same stuff by one God who, unlike your shoes Dan, shines upon us and makes us what we are yet sometimes not what we become... (really don't know how to end this but hey! at least I'm trying ok?)


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    Post by dan Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:25 am

    If anyone were ever going to come to inspect the best possible mousetrap, very likely they have already come and gone, and we’re just chattering away....... into the sunset.  Hey, sports fans, that’s my kind of Disclosure.


    Ack sack,

    Oh, no, it was not foot.......

    Someone else who hangs around, patiently.  

    Mr B explained a piece of protocol...... His source is Navy.....

    Mr. Navy had been smelling a lot of smoke...... so, one fine day, he took it upon himself to knock on a certain door......

    Why, hello, Mr N, what can we do for you?  Here, let us give you a briefing.......

    It wasn’t just one briefing....... it was three......

    We hope you’ve enjoyed your briefings, Mr N.  If you have any more questions, don’t hesitate to shove them.  

    That was the welcoming committee, consisting of three.   Just one was a member of the Group.  No foreigners need apply.  The Group is under no known jurisdiction, especially not of a meddlesome President.  

    The presumption is that the Group is overseen by an off world jurisdiction.  

    The Group mainly includes scientists of the physical variety.  They still possess a craft of Roswellian vintage..... a bare bones artifact that has not lent itself to analysis.  That has not precluded efforts at some form of duplication..... not entirely unsuccessful.  

    Back to Mr B.........

    It was a rather trivial incident, in another quarter, that left its indelible impression.  Remember Utsoro Bune?  Mr B learned of it, before the foot.  Apparently someone had forgot to brief him..... a real oversight, don’t you think?  I do remember that fine day.  

    The last serious attempt at intervention in this tidy arrangement was contemplated by Ike...... sending in the Army.  The record shows that he was counseled discretion.  

    But speaking of the devil, it is mainly the lowly foot who has provided liaison to the White House, over the last few administrations.  He’s not a member, but he still manages to keep his finger in the pie.  

    There are 4-8 hundred who are kept abreast of these proceedings.  

    There has been no conclusion as to the provenance of the craft or critters.  Hmmm....... it might not hurt to ask....... her.  

    The other countries.......?

    I’m sure that many have their own sorts of channels...... but nothing quite so concerted. I would guess that this is mainly because our...... not quite so central control....... lends itself more to..... ‘ad hocery’. This would pretty much take that cake, don’t you think?



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    Post by whoknows Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:36 am

    99 wrote:We'll all know the answer to your question Dan if this place is attacked by a swarm of giant flies. Until then, pretend you have a stand-by ticket on a major airliner... and wait it out.

    Happiness Dan, climbs aboard his giant buzzymost of a fly and takes off with escape velocity of a rocket, looking for the other half of the moon.



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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:40 am

    "Are we going to tell the scientific establishment to contemplate their navel...... to start growing tomatoes. Yes, that would be the very best advice....... but it takes a little getting used to."~ Dan


    One way to get them to do that is to suggest they start reading Jung as it may inspire them to quit their jobs even!


    It may also prevent them from their ongoing descent into the fiery realm of man's eternal agony and for that matter... us too,.. because they've brainwashed the world into thinking like they do about everything. They are the reason for our materialist mentality where everything outside of it does not exist and that's got to change.


    But there's still hope Dan and I know you already know that because after all... you were once one of them! 


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    Post by 99 Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:07 am

    It feels like PR propaganda programming on a certain level. ~ smelly

    Good point, I agree. Maybe even like a PSYOP too.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:47 am

    Dan said ack sack, bahahahahaha.

    99, Dan doesn’t make us anything.

    You are a light unto yourself.

    Maybe stop hiding it.
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:57 am

    I would take those words to heart, 99.

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