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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri May 31, 2019 2:37 pm

    I found all my thoughts were lies.

    Distinctions are illusions of mind.

    That's really something to realize.

    My sense of I, only rooted in my thought and memory, in time.

    But I am not that.

    Now I can only say what every person who cared to has said through the ages...

    Look into your own mind and you will see who you are if you are honest and truly want to.

    It usually is after trauma.

    I don't think it always has to be.

    Humans do see things each in their own unique way, but there is some common ground based on our genetics and shared environment and way of living.

    I think this is a phase in the lifecycle of a monkey if it wants it.

    Maybe all creatures and life already are here, and it is simply us out here in fairy land, who leave and return home.

    I don't know or frankly even care.

    I am not and won't be understood or logical or reasonable about life and death, imaginary limitations.

    Smelly farts out!
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    Post by dan Fri May 31, 2019 2:44 pm

    Perhaps, one way to view what is being attempted is to make yet another distinction......

    We are double teaming...... double tasking.......

    Yes, we are on the art squad....... and we are also on the bomb squad.  

    Yes, we recognize that the Logos is a bomb, an improvised explosive device, if you will, and we are attempting to dismantle it....... very gingerly.  



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    Post by dan Fri May 31, 2019 2:55 pm

    Ack,

    Ye, of faint heart....... where there’s a will........?  Where there is a challenge.....?  

    Yes, we are certainly staring into the abyss.  

    We all know this, especially smelly.  

    Am I playing chicken with the Abyss?  

    Or am I just going with the flow...... over the cliff?

    smelly wants to shut his eyes...... and ears.

    Me? I’m standing up in the canoe, waving my arms.

    Will the lightning strike? Would it make any difference, anyway?



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    Post by Cuan Scott Fri May 31, 2019 3:09 pm

    We might be staring into the abyss but I opine that we are still 'on a schedule'



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    Post by dan Fri May 31, 2019 3:11 pm

    Christians..........?

    We’ve just got to love them, especially if there isn’t any God.  

    Fools......? God must love fools, otherwise she wouldn’t have created so many.  


    Scott,

    And why aren’t there any baby eschatologists?  

    The Glory train always pulls out on time.......sorry.  


    I’ll agree with smelly........ there are no philosophers on the bomb squad....... they flunk out, early on.  

    I may look like a philosopher, but I’m just whistling past the graveyard....... the dead philosophers society.  



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    Post by dan Fri May 31, 2019 3:27 pm

    smelly smacks real good, doesn’t he?

    If we get past smelly’s dirty looks, maybe we gotten somewhere.  

    He worries so much about us, he might turn gray, prematurely.  

    If I were, smelly, I’d be at least twice as worried about these chickens running around here with their heads cut off........ bomb squad...... my ass!  



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    Post by dan Fri May 31, 2019 3:36 pm

    Hmmm........ maybe better not go there...... just saying......


    Anyway, I’m sure we’ve heard of the ship of Theseus.......

    What we have here is the bomb of Theseus, also known as the Logos of Theseus.......

    We have to dismantle it, and put it back together, all the while we’re in the middle of the ocean, in the middle of a typhoon.  

    No wonder that smelly has gone below deck.  It makes me shiver, just to _think_ about it.  

    Now it’s a rocket ship...... pointed directly at the Monad.  

    I know, the Monad is obscured by the fog...... but not to worry, smelly, we’re flying by the seat of our pants.  

    And we had the best possible flight instructor....... just don’t tell him that he has body odor.  


    7:15.........

    Yes, sports fans, one minute we are a ship of fools....... the next minute we are a rocket ship, with the Monad in its crosshairs.  

    How does that work.......?

    It’s simple...... it’s called the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  

    All you have to do is turn the world upside down and inside out.  

    It’s just like magic....... almost like it was a setup.  

    All you need to perform this trick....... a fulcrum.  

    I’ll leave the fulcrum puzzle as an exercise for the reader.  



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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:43 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:Smelly,

    you will return I sense, OM would be incomplete without you

    and mama as Dan has reminded us "don't allow no gaps.."

    you have always been here and as with art,  how can the picture be painted in the absence of the full palette? no..

    I believe it is time for us all, together, to paint the world the beautiful colours..

    If we should take anything from the legacy of those great artists of times past - irrespective of their field, genre etc they I do believe would want all the children to pick up their metaphoric brushes and paint a new picture which can double as the new scenery for our collective 'play of life.'



    Cuan,
    It's why the caterpillar pointed Me to look close at chitin, and at peacock feathers.....





    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_coloration

    They are ever so LIGHT , I used to make fishing floats out of them.

    Try to imagine why there are so many reports of flashing colours involved with UFOs.

    I can turn My dowsing onto whatever I focus upon, and peacock feathers have long been of vast interest to Me, and to My most respected TT Brown.

    I spent ten years totally absorbed in delving into TT Browns life and works, and another most respected gentleman called TWIGSNAPPER titled myself as NAVIGATOR.

    He was tasked by William Stephenson to keep Brown alive, or kill him if He fell into the wrong hands.

    In a world that You cannot observe, a world of many colours unseen by our eyes, ask and listen to those who can observe that unseen world.

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    Post by dan Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:38 am

    Ok, hobbit,

    I’m starting to meditate on nanotechnology.

    I also meditate on photons, of course, but not previously in the context of nanotechnology.  

    Another trick is the fossil fuels being reconstituted in the O/A gap. That gap is where you definitely want to be off the grid.  


    A bigger issue may be what to do with the conservation/symmetry laws of physics....... the Sun being rather in our faces on that issue.  

    The Sun is another aspect of nanotechnology...... of the nuclear kind.

    Immaterialism is all about direct perception..... in which context, photons are not the central actors.  

    It would be wonderful if hobbit could contribute in this regard.  His system has posited a dualistic metaphysic.  That may not be the case...... in which case, it may not be just turtles all the way down.  

    Yes, we are a suspension bridge across the abyss, from nowhere to nowhere.  How does hobbit like them apples.

    hobbit, with cosmic consciousness, is cheating by using a material background.  



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    Post by whoknows Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:09 am

    on the other hand.

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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:03 am

    http://www.kitselman.com/his-books/ "scientology"

    Beau kitselman showed hubbard the door, kicked Him out of His house.


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    Post by dan Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:06 am

    wk,

    This is not a music channel.  If you have something to say, please say it.


    Ack,

    I’ve seen hobbit do philosophy, when he puts his mind to it.  

    Re: scientology....... several members of the Aviary got their start there.  Another very dualistic system.  


    A matter based dualism is much more conducive to free will than is immaterialism.  


    2:45.........

    You, too, hobbit....... please minimize the videos on this thread.  Besides, someone just posted that one a couple days ago.  
    ...........


    The gap between the two systems...... mind and matter..... leaves room for the exercise of free will.  That is about all that dualism might be good for.  

    With immaterialism, we get a very good facsimile of free will..... without the cosmic downside..... of sapience run amok.  

    I should reiterate, more frequently, that the best possible world, is, actually, the only possible world.

    Is this obvious? I think it almost is...... but you have to approach it the right way.

    Yes, there are many side shows and antechambers, but the designation of best possible must, necessarily, extend to these ancillary worlds, as well.

    The BPW is something of a ‘block universe’, so called.

    I used to suggest that the BPW was self generated out of a quantum foam, if you will...... a background of random consciousness.

    If there ‘ever’ were such, it would have been logically swallowed up by mother ship.

    Could there not have been random observers....?



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    My caterpillar friend.

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