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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:49 pm

    Upon further detailed investigation, it turns out that the ‘unauthorized’ debate had actually been authorized........ by everyone except Princess...... and me.

    And it appears that once again, I’m to blame.   But I’m not quite sure how.  We’ll just have to stay tuned........

    At the end of the day........ we all end up sleeping under the same tent........ as hard to believe as that might be.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:48 pm

    True, all personal tents are raised under the big sky tent.

    You are welcome in my tent anytime, but you have to be naked.

    No masks or clothes allowed, maybe that's why no one is in my tent, no one is really here Wink
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:50 pm

    All honeycomb cells are inside one hive.

    Not all cells have honey in them.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:28 pm

    No problemos...

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    Post by dan Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:16 am

    The Antichrist ploy is causing a slight amount of consternation, in certain predictable quarters.  I think I’ll blame it on smelly.  That’s just the sort of prank that he might pull.

    But neither one of us is smart enough for Vegas.  That took real genius.  But lead is better than Ebola...... not so sneaky.

    And God knows where this coming from........ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EaKDOYTZbJg

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    Post by Cuan Scott Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:12 am

    Dan,

    Nice tune for a Saturday morning Smile

    I personally prefer the Monkee's version but this is good too.

    Vegas connection?
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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:17 am

    Dan / any light on the tale of the two Doug's ??
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:44 am

    Yes, lead will win out in the end....
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:47 am

    Jekyll and Hyde?

    What happens...... stays......

    And let’s hope we can turn the lead into gold...... that would be a trick..... a pony trick.......
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:15 am



    I like glitter farts more than gold.

    Wink

    The glitter troll strikes again!

    This is the best possible world after all.

    Kick back and relax...

    Enjoy the ride.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:15 am

    All you who read my poems
    guard your purity of heart
    let your greed be modesty
    your flattery be honesty
    put an end to your confusion
    trust your own true nature
    find your buddha body today
    do it as fast as lightning
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    I talk with the wind and hear it's laughter.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:14 am

    dan wrote:The Antichrist ploy is causing a slight amount of consternation, in certain predictable quarters.  I think I’ll blame it on smelly.  That’s just the sort of prank that he might pull.

    But neither one of us is smart enough for Vegas.  That took real genius.  But lead is better than Ebola...... not so sneaky.

    And God knows where this coming from........ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EaKDOYTZbJg

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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:51 am

    Two Dougs are One Doug. Many Dougs are One Doug. Dougs are One. Many are One. Doug One. Many One.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:06 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:Two Dougs are One Doug. Many Dougs are One Doug. Dougs are One. Many are One. Doug One. Many One.


    Is this Dougle Dutch?

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    Post by painterdoug Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:14 pm


    Is this Dougle Dutch dark chocolate?



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    Post by dan Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:04 pm

    Joe and I are both on the spectrum of cosmological possibilities......... two extremes......

    Joe is big world, and I’m small world.

    And it does appear that a rather broad field may get narrowed down, on rather short notice, to these two horses.  And, as I’ve mentioned, Joe may be rediscovering his philosophical roots.  

    In the meantime, there is a mention of a rather specific...... how shall say..... imbroglio, between two parties, rather...... well placed on the food chain, inside the beltway...... with reference to the horse race.  It was the small horse that was....... particularly problematic, in the mind of one.  

    But, seemingly, they both have gog and magog on the mind...... good fences make good neighbors.....?

    But I don’t know of any fence, particularly one of iron and copper, that will last a thousand years.  

    It may simply be that we’re not slated to have a Millennium.  Is the small world cosmology quite that fungible?  

    Maybe these two individuals know something that we don’t.  

    The Millennium, in the BPWH, is for continuity from the Omega back to the Alpha.  However, if there is greater utilization of the Hive, the purely temporal aspect of the Millennium could be foreshortened, in favor of the eternal.  I wonder if this is what Mike had in mind..... or was it the other one?  

    Just wondering........


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:17 pm

    Without leaving my house
    I know the whole Universe

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    Post by dan Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:56 pm

    smelly,

    And Lao Tzu didn’t even have a broad band connection...... or did he?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:57 pm

    Lao Tzu says there is nothing wrong with technology.

    The yin and yang always pull on each other, but not as opposites.

    The danger and profanity is when the tools and crafts of Humanity are used in the hands of those who feel themselves separated from all things, the idealists who want to subjugate all they see. This causes a deep psychosis in the human organism rendering it, for all intents and purposes, insane.

    Then the partisans rise from the slime, the evangelical, the zealot, the tyrants, the literal and they do what all such fools have always done, they burn it all down.

    We used to be much smarter than the current remedial model who now have the ultimate idol, the bomb.

    Time to let Jesus take the wheel, which is our imagination and intuition.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:30 pm

    smelly suggests that everyone who is not a mystic is a danger to our survival........

    Non-mystics.........? Lock them up!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:46 pm

    Thoughts grow in brains as grass grows in fields.

    The Tao may be attained but not seen. — Chuang-Tzu

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:47 pm

    dan wrote:smelly suggests that everyone who is not a mystic is a danger to our survival........

    Non-mystics.........?  Lock them up!

    Wrong as always muppet.

    But that’s why you are here.

    You should all be rounded up and put in a pen Wink)))

    ...and be studied, perhaps that’s already happened.

    A Human Being is mystic.

    Imagination and intuition is a Human Being.

    You are treating it as some other thing.

    It’s just a state of mind.

    Beware of the idol worshippers.

    Keep them away from the big toys.

    They think they are real.

    Muppets.

    They always spoil it.

    You don’t have to do anything.

    “As I sit quietly, doing nothing,
    Spring comes and grass grows of itself.”

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:11 pm

    That grass growing video is the best video ever posted on OMF.

    Study it carefully.

    Something magic happens at the 2 min mark.
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    Post by hobbit Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:11 am

    Grass does not "grow"

    The individual memories of atmosphere react to the spiral implosion and counter outrush of consciousness to displace in the overall memory field of the planet.

    The wind does not "blow"

    Grass transmutes into 3D creation with massive amounts of this counter rotating consciousness.


    Unless the basics are not recognised, You may as well pee into the wind, it too will displace in location and perhaps land in Your face, it may wake you up?.

    Vary the local rate of these counter rotating fields and then time and gravity are at Your command.

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