Open Minds Forum



Join the forum, it's quick and easy

Open Minds Forum

Open Minds Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

UFOs, Extraterrestrial Contact, Conspiracy, Exopolitics, Geopolitics, Paranormal, Crypto-zoology, Ancient History, Cutting-Edge Science & Special Guests.

Latest topics

» Disclosure - For U by U
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeYesterday at 10:08 pm by U

» Why are we here?
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeYesterday at 8:31 pm by Post Eschaton Punk

» The scariest character in all fiction
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeYesterday at 6:47 pm by U

» WRATH OF THE GODS/TITANS
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 15, 2024 12:16 am by U

» Uanon's Majikal Misery Tour "it's all smiles on the magic school bus"
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeSun Nov 10, 2024 9:36 pm by Mr. Janus

» What Music Are You Listening To ?
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeSat Nov 09, 2024 12:34 am by U

» Livin Your Best Life
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 06, 2024 8:55 am by Post Eschaton Punk

» OMF STATE OF THE UNION
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeWed Nov 06, 2024 12:19 am by U

» Baudrillardian hauntology - what are some haunting truths to our reality?
Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Icon_minitimeSun Nov 03, 2024 3:07 pm by dan

Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





November 2024

SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
     12
3456789
10111213141516
17181920212223
24252627282930

Calendar Calendar


+22
Course Catalog
Pkisfake
painterdoug
cwallatruth
hobbit
Cuan Scott
@awestruckt
Foot Mann
RunningBull
BlackGypsy
Cyrellys
maryam-el
Cheguevoblin
AtomicBrando
jofo
U
ParanoidFactoid
GSB/SSR
GrandCru
Post Eschaton Punk
SurfBum
dan
26 posters

    Immaterialism 4

    dan
    dan
    Special Guest
    Special Guest


    Posts : 9439
    Join date : 2012-04-25
    Location : Baltimore

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Immaterialism 4

    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
    painterdoug
    painterdoug
    Senior Member
    Senior Member


    Posts : 428
    Join date : 2017-06-14

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:27 am

    Hobbit thank you

    when i see all those people in sync, in bliss and glory clapping their hands, wow, thats it!

    MUSIC IS THE POWER ITS THE MEDIUM.
    dan
    dan
    Special Guest
    Special Guest


    Posts : 9439
    Join date : 2012-04-25
    Location : Baltimore

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by dan Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:49 am

    On a clear day, we can see the Metanarrative...........

    When the Metanarrative meets the meta analysis.......... better watch out....... sports fans.......


    1..........

    When it comes to the Metanarrative, chicken little strives to be the plot spoiler.  

    Doug is our Metanarrator.   Your biggest fear might be the plot spoiler........ and only after I get off the phone with Doug do I understand what the real plot spoiler is.......

    It is Vegas.  Not just plot spoiler....... more to the point..... it’s the poison pill.  

    Is the unwashed public ready to swallow the poison pill?  

    That’s the real question.  

    And my guess is that Vegas is just a stand in for the real killer....... yes, Virginia, we have no free will.  

    How do we sell no free will to joe six pack........?  

    Vegas seems like our biggest problem, but it may also be our solution in disguise.

    We have to put on our thinking caps.........



    (cont........)
    avatar
    SurfBum
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 2066
    Join date : 2018-09-12

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by SurfBum Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:14 am

    You better think really hard, you might blow a fuse if you over-clock the processor.

    Blowing a fuse might be the way to solve the real problem. Wink

    Wait, can the best possible world really have any problem?

    Guess not.

    Shrug

    Straight on.

    avatar
    hobbit
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 1601
    Join date : 2017-08-04

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by hobbit Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:31 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:Freddie was and is 'Pure Magic'

    Thanks Hobbit Smile


    It's a kind of magic...….it really is.

    Hobbit
    avatar
    SurfBum
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 2066
    Join date : 2018-09-12

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by SurfBum Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:35 am

    There is a paradox here

    You can only burn the logos using logos itself, so really there is no escaping logos.

    All you can do is marry the opposites.

    Fire and water make steam.

    On very romantic evenings we go salsa dancing with the paradoxes.

    Still the logos must be burned and birthed with every breath

    There is only what is
    avatar
    hobbit
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 1601
    Join date : 2017-08-04

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by hobbit Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:37 am

    painterdoug wrote:Hobbit   thank you

    when i see all those people in sync, in bliss and glory clapping their hands,  wow, thats it!

    MUSIC IS THE POWER   ITS THE MEDIUM.

    One of those on the shoulders of others is My son who was 13 at the time He was on My shoulders for hours.

    He was a queen fanatic, then when he was 15 he walked in the house and declared "He's a puff"

    I asked who and He replied Freddie, I just said is the pope catholic?


    He has mellowed now and is again a queen fanatic.


    We should be hearing solfeggio
    Not the adjusted frequencies presently.


    Hobbit
    avatar
    hobbit
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 1601
    Join date : 2017-08-04

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by hobbit Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:42 am

    smelly wrote:Intellectual non-understanding is a hurdle.

    How many will accept they can’t understand things as we have been conditioned to.

    It takes senses most don’t have.

    I was taking a walk in the rain by the bay just now and I couldn’t stop looking and talking to the trees.

    They laugh at me walking by.

    I laugh at all of this.

    Next time You have a chat with a tree ask it where it came from, and how does the water reach the upper leaves.

    I am humbled to communicate with trees, especially oaks.
    They have shown Me how to reverse the so called gravity, thus the water FALLS to the top of them.
    They do not so called GROW out of the ground, they transmute into the ground and up into atmosphere.

    The mass ( wood) is created in location by transamutation of consciousness into been the encoded outcome We call a tree.

    They have been here far far longer than We have.



    http://ilivetotravel.me/cambodia-siem-reap-ta-prohm/


    Hobbit
    avatar
    SurfBum
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 2066
    Join date : 2018-09-12

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by SurfBum Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:51 am

    Hobbit may be the real Merlin of our times...

    Not that smelly gassy goat

    Razz
    painterdoug
    painterdoug
    Senior Member
    Senior Member


    Posts : 428
    Join date : 2017-06-14

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:08 am

    plot spoiler

    dan wants to highjack my show for his own nefarious needs

    gotta proceed with caution Laughing
    avatar
    SurfBum
    Member of Distinction
    Member of Distinction


    Posts : 2066
    Join date : 2018-09-12

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by SurfBum Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:51 pm

    Nope, you don't burn logos with logos.

    Logos is born spontaneously from the void and thus it implies the void, the moment it is born it is already married to it's opposite. We become one with the way things are not by clinging to more logos but by using logos  as a gardening tool. We use it when it comes and then let it go. If you cling to your work it cannot last, nothing that is gripped tightly can last forever. The harder you grip the more it slips away.

    We use the tools and let them come and go freely and spontaneously.

    Action non action is as as close as we can be to the way the universe is.

    *Fart*

    Bwahaha!

    Laughing hysterically in perfect peace is fun!
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Heritage Contributor
    Heritage Contributor


    Posts : 8624
    Join date : 2018-01-18
    Location : Here

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:13 pm

    The natural language of the soul is singing and music.

    Why it can immediately take you to reality.
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Heritage Contributor
    Heritage Contributor


    Posts : 8624
    Join date : 2018-01-18
    Location : Here

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:20 pm

    Aaron wrote:Hobbit may be the real Merlin of our times...

    Not that smelly gassy goat

    Razz

    Eden is big enough for all that is green.
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Heritage Contributor
    Heritage Contributor


    Posts : 8624
    Join date : 2018-01-18
    Location : Here

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:24 pm

    I’ve been really getting into my Divine Comedy studies with Guénon.

    Fantastic.

    The Esoterism of Dante (Rene... https://www.amazon.com/dp/0900588640?ref=yo_pop_ma_share
    dan
    dan
    Special Guest
    Special Guest


    Posts : 9439
    Join date : 2012-04-25
    Location : Baltimore

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by dan Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:02 pm

    Doug,

    ‘Nefarious’ is a strong word.  

    Is it wicked for someone to be concerned with the problem of truth....... the meaning of our existence?  

    I know that you have a long term interest in metaphysical phenomena, and that these interests will form the basis of your theatrical production.  

    It is hard to imagine that any such production would not raise profound questions as to our destiny, spiritual or otherwise.  

    Such questions are deeply philosophical, and, by definition, are eschatological.  

    Having been a long time student of those questions in this context, I am hopeful that you might avail yourself of this experience.  Beyond that........ well, I have said my little bit, and I’m not inclined to be pestiferous.  I wish you all the best in your endeavor.

    ...
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Heritage Contributor
    Heritage Contributor


    Posts : 8624
    Join date : 2018-01-18
    Location : Here

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:50 pm

    We don’t have a problem, we have an opportunity to wake ourselves up amidst great change.

    Do it, don’t delay.

    Especially you Dan and then you will not care about half of what you banter about, well...

    I don’t care about anything you banter about Wink

    Bahahahahaha

    I like being very pestiferous to the muppet.
    dan
    dan
    Special Guest
    Special Guest


    Posts : 9439
    Join date : 2012-04-25
    Location : Baltimore

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by dan Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:59 pm

    smelly.......
    We don’t have a problem, we have an opportunity to wake ourselves up amidst great change.

    Do it, don’t delay.
    Have I been missing something? I don’t think I’ve heard smelly utter quite such....... words, before.  

    Are you saying something new here, smelly?  

    In any case, please elaborate.......

    This almost sounds like an historic/prophetic window of opportunity that you are referring to.

    And you refer to this opportunity as something that all of us could share. This sounds downright communal.

    Is this not the opportunity that Doug might be addressing with his stage and film productions?



    (cont.......)
    painterdoug
    painterdoug
    Senior Member
    Senior Member


    Posts : 428
    Join date : 2017-06-14

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:23 pm

    Oh dear Dan    I said it somewhat tongue in cheek .   just stirring up the pot

    and Dan, all you said resonates . I am, and will be present to these and other questions , and consult with you as we spoke about.

    d

    dan
    dan
    Special Guest
    Special Guest


    Posts : 9439
    Join date : 2012-04-25
    Location : Baltimore

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by dan Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:38 pm

    I thank you, Doug, for affording me those kind words of mitigation, but I will certainly not be oblivious to the cautionary tenor of your words, nonetheless.


    smelly,

    Are you suggesting that I/we be more careless?  

    I suppose that, rather, you are suggesting a more carefree attitude.  

    In any case, you are correct in pointing out that I’m not practicing what I preach.  I should, if I did so, be totally carefree.  Why are my hands, white knuckles and all, still clutching the steering wheel?  

    This may well point to the central paradox of the BPWH.

    If only I had more faith. But, then again, we’re only supposed to need a mustard seed of faith. I pray that I have that much.

    If what Ron says, below, and what Doug and I speculate, is correct, it appears that our window of opportunity may be opening, more than just a little bit wider.


    (cont......)


    Last edited by dan on Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:34 pm; edited 3 times in total
    Foot Mann
    Foot Mann
    Gold Member
    Gold Member


    Posts : 504
    Join date : 2015-03-31

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Foot Mann Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:40 pm

    The next Great Debate will feature a former candidate for President of the United States versus Joseph Firmage, candidate for President of the Council of Seven. This debate will focus on four issues: (1) energy, (2) climate, (3) (portal) immigration; and (4) global security. Details will be forthcoming.
    dan
    dan
    Special Guest
    Special Guest


    Posts : 9439
    Join date : 2012-04-25
    Location : Baltimore

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by dan Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:49 pm

    I believe that Foot Mann may be referring to Wesley C.
    painterdoug
    painterdoug
    Senior Member
    Senior Member


    Posts : 428
    Join date : 2017-06-14

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:51 pm

    I just spoke about Wes Clark tonight to a friend while out . I always liked him.
    Foot Mann
    Foot Mann
    Gold Member
    Gold Member


    Posts : 504
    Join date : 2015-03-31

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Foot Mann Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:13 pm

    As a former Debater and Discloser Extraordinaire, Painter Doug will have a prominent place in the audience.
    painterdoug
    painterdoug
    Senior Member
    Senior Member


    Posts : 428
    Join date : 2017-06-14

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:19 pm

    MOST EXCELLENT!!




    Such a silly goat


    Last edited by painterdoug on Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Heritage Contributor
    Heritage Contributor


    Posts : 8624
    Join date : 2018-01-18
    Location : Here

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:28 pm

    dan wrote:I thank you, Doug, for affording me those kind words of mitigation, but I will certainly not be oblivious to the cautionary tenor of your words, nonetheless.


    smelly,

    Are you suggesting that I/we be more careless?  

    I suppose that, rather, you are suggesting a more carefree attitude.  

    In any case, you are correct in pointing out that I’m not practicing what I preach.  I should, if I did so, be totally carefree.  Why are my hands, white knuckles and all, still clutching the steering wheel?  

    This may well point to the central paradox of the BPWH.

    (cont......)

    I guess you always need at least one dumb muppet in a room.

    Guess who you are?!

    Bahahahahaha
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Post Eschaton Punk
    Heritage Contributor
    Heritage Contributor


    Posts : 8624
    Join date : 2018-01-18
    Location : Here

    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:30 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:The next Great Debate will feature a former candidate for President of the United States versus Joseph Firmage, candidate for President of the Council of Seven. This debate will focus on four issues: (1) energy, (2) climate, (3) (portal) immigration; and (4) global security. Details will be forthcoming.

    Please have them also look into the source of smelly goat farts.

    That I would stay up to watch and eat chocolate cake for.

    Sponsored content


    Immaterialism 4  - Page 19 Empty Re: Immaterialism 4

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:37 am