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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:08 pm

    You are more stupid than you look, PF, and you look really stupid.

    How do you spell mnemonic......?
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    Post by hobbit Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:08 pm

    ParanoidFactoid wrote:
    dan wrote:PF,

    Didn’t he though.......  Yes, you do need to do your homework.  

    Lay it on me, buddy.

    EDIT: and I'd just like to point out, "homework" presumes a taught course. And those are traditionally done with lectures and assigned texts. Books. Often one written by the lecturer him or herself (because how else would the damn thing sell other than by assigning it to students?)

    And you've just refused to give lectures or write a book.

    I'd also like to point out, if you did organize your ideas you could go on the lecture circuit and make some bank. And also attract a following. If that's what you want.

    I can assure that dan is more real than that.
    He keeps leaving the room , like elvis.
    Smelly and myself were in stiches, but very honoured to be so near Him ( when he was there)
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:10 pm

    dan wrote:You are more stupid than you look, PF, and you look really stupid.  

    How do you spell mnemonic......?  

    Personal insults now. How about answering CC's questions?
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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:14 pm

    hobbit is dyslexic.  What is your excuse, PF?

    And, idiot, CC asked no questions. He postulated about an ELE. I answered him very succinctly, but you, too, must be dyslexic.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:18 pm

    dan wrote:PF,

    Didn’t he though.......  Yes, you do need to do your homework.

    Refrain from quip........ tell that to smelly..... a very smart young man, but when is he going to wake up and smell the coffee?  

    It was the task of Buddha to put all the smart fellas like smelly to sleep.  He intends to sleep through the Resurrection.


    (cont.......)

    Bahahaha, the muppets are really worked up into a frenzy today, amusing questions and summaries....all so...material, isn’t this the Immaterialism thread?

    They are dumb Dan, hella god damned stupid, but so was I, so I do have compassion.

    I really enjoy seeing others begin to initiate themselves.

    Don’t they know this is just Alchemy?

    That everything they are annoyed by is the right direction to look?

    So it goes on OMF, so it goes in the wild.

    Dan, flattery will get you no where with me, nor gain me any followers Wink

    I don’t have anything else particularly dumb to say Dan.

    I honestly don’t know what you disagree with, not being here now.

    Take all the words today apart, what are first principles here?

    They are testing and sifting you.

    Can’t say I see much here really.

    I know one thing, I don’t need anything Wink
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    Post by Course Catalog Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:28 pm

    I guess your answer to me was directed to PF above - that you differ from the Princess with regard to the nature of the ELE, not that there is or is not going to be one.

    What about the Smithian Creed I spelled out. Should we be saying that out loud together every Sunday?



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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:28 pm

    smelly,

    There are folks out there who think they are lacking.

    It is the Princess’ and my job to feed them.  Do you object?


    CC,

    The Monad will extinguish everything in us, except the Christ.



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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:36 pm

    dan wrote:hobbit is dyslexic.  What is your excuse, PF?

    And, idiot, CC asked no questions.  He postulated about an ELE.  I answered him very succinctly, but you, too, must be dyslexic.  

    Sure look like questions to me:


    For example, are we to believe literally that:

    the princess comes from another dimension
    that Footmann - a high ranking intelligence agent - met the princess when she was a young child
    that he was given custody of her at that time
    that the magical pod that brought her to this world (and some sort of technological "goodie bag") was handed over to the president.and disseminated to private corporations for development
    That Footmann later married this now grown up princess
    that the princess retains the ability to travel through some sort of portal to another world or at least another level of consciousness, which may or may not involve the physical body
    that the world is heading towards some catastrophe that will set us back technologically to the Stone Age
    That some of the earth's population will seemingly be wiped out by this catastrophe
    That, after this event, the majority of survivors will leave the planet through one of these portals to exist in the hive or the garden of eden or whatever "there" is
    That a smaller portion of the surviving population will stay behind and rebuild a primitive society that will, due to the cyclical nature of time, result in them being our ancestors.
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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:37 pm

    Ok, PF,

    Here are your answers...... yes, yes, yes...... maybe.... with regard to any ELE.


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    Post by Course Catalog Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:39 pm

    I think, if given the choice, I might take my chances with the caveman group before getting on line for the portal to nowhere.

    Reminds me a little too much of the recipes in To Serve Man.

    Maybe I am still too much of a Material Guy after all.


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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:41 pm

    Obviously.......
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:42 pm

    dan wrote:Ok, PF,

    Here are your answers...... yes, yes, yes...... maybe.... with regard to any ELE.  

    Dan, I'm being serious. I'm genuinely trying to understand the nuance of what you say. But asking questions seems to get you angry.
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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:51 pm

    I just answered them. When will you accept ‘yes’ for an answer?
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:00 pm

    dan wrote:I just answered them.  When will you accept ‘yes’ for an answer?  

    OK.

    Sorry about that stuffing in my head, felt mouth, and googly-eyes spinning round and round. It's my nature!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:10 pm

    No, I don’t object Dan, stop objecting to what led me to know I need nothing then please, we are both happening here.

    I only share the view publicly in the naive thought others may desire more to know themselves.

    It’s as good as anything to do to pass the time.

    Facts are not the path to awareness and realization Dan dances around.

    Throw all the facts out, use your imaginations, that’s what got you into UFOs partly, that’s the key to it all Wink

    But I just point to the obvious, can’t help grinning.

    You have to hypnotize yourself.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:19 pm

    smelly wrote:No, I don’t object Dan, stop objecting to what led me to know I need nothing then please, we are both happening here.

    I only share the view publicly in the naive thought others may desire more to know themselves.

    It’s as good as anything to do to pass the time.

    Facts are not the path to awareness and realization Dan dances around.

    Throw all the facts out, use your imaginations, that’s what got you into UFOs partly, that’s the key to it all Wink

    But I just point to the obvious, can’t help grinning.

    You have to hypnotize yourself.

    I do see one positive to this. It's a good excuse to shoot Bruce Willis into space and avoid the next Die Hard 6 sequel!
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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:24 pm

    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/618525909
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:40 pm

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    Post by 99 Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:16 pm

    Great GtM! Really enjoyed it and looking forward to the next one! Thanks Dan and Princess for hosting it. Very informative!
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    Post by Course Catalog Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:43 pm

    Very informative? Sorry I missed it.

    Can you give a very brief recap?
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    Post by dan Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:47 pm

    Yes, the meeting exceeded my expectations.  I hope that we can continue the discussion on OMF.  

    I’m exhausted, right now. I’ll be back in the morning............
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:46 am

    Course Catalog wrote:Very informative? Sorry I missed it.

    Can you give a very brief recap?

    It was recorded. Perhaps it'll be posted it on Youtube.
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    Post by dan Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:06 am

    My brainstorm this morning is that if I’m going to run for President, I might as well run for Pope, at the same time.  In many ways, Pope makes more sense than President, and together, well, there is a synergy.  And when people say that I’m not Catholic, I’ll simply reply that I’m more Catholic than the Pope.  

    And, besides, according to the story, the Princess arranged for the resignation of Benedict.  Like they say, if you’re gonna make a mistake, you might as well make it big.  If I can be chicken little, I can probably also be Chicken Big.  Yes?

    Of course, if these campaigns ever get off the ground, many Christians will perceive me as being the Antichrist.  And I’ll say.... no, I’m the Antechrist.  

    And, speaking of resignations, we probably won’t have to campaign, we’ll just have the Princess also arrange for donny’s resignation.  When you have a handle on the Truth, you also have a handle on the big Mo, as they say in politics.  

    And so it goes........

    I’ve been telling folks that Ron talks to the President.  I don’t think that’s entirely accurate.  I think the President talks to Ron...... and Ron talks to me, which reminds of the limerick about my hometown..... Boston, The home of the bean and the cod. Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots, And the Cabots talk only to God.


    But the real nugget, the hidden gem, was hobbit.  I think I finally understood from where he was coming, and where he is going..... perhaps, now, better than he does.


    10.........

    Ron doesn’t think that my running for Pope is going to work, because I’d have to be a Cardinal, first.  Well, ok, so I start on the ground floor, and run for Bishop of Baltimore....... same idea.....

    He also points out that donny might resign in my favor, but then I would have to contend with Mike, who sees me as an outsider...... not one of his group.  

    Politics..... politics.... can’t live with it, can’t live without it.  What is the politics of Truth going to look like?  


    hobbit explained that his hair had turned white when he was just a boy, and this made him a frequent target of bullying. He had to think fast and outside the box. But which came first...... his odd appearance or his odd ability...... dowsing. Dowsing may be viewed as another aspect of the portal phenomenon...... or is it the other way around?


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    Post by hobbit Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:46 am

    But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

    Light upon light Allah doth guide whom he will to his light.


    That pathway is one inch wide, and straight ( it took months of measures to find that)

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    Post by 99 Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:46 am

    There is something so marvelously luminescent about each person 

    who has showed up via webcam in

    these past two WtM's we've had here over the past few days. 

    Granted I already knew what Dan,

    Princess, Kashmir and Smiley looked like via video but the 

    appearance of Hobbit was as surprising as it was revelatory; the 

    revealing of something hitherto unknown. There's just so much 

    authenticity there; a real shaman, a teacher, borne and rooted in the 

    land of Avalon. And when I watched him and heard him speak, in his 
    home environment as seen in the background, it was just a 

    reminder to me of how far

    reaching this
    forum is. That its influence stretches far beyond the borders of 

    America and In to those ancient lands

    across continents from which we came forth.  In Hobbit I see a long lost ancestral memory and lost traditions

    with a reminder that the ‘old way’ still prevails and is going strong. 

    That it still exists and

    Hobbit seems to encompass all of that in his own special way.

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