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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:40 am

    I'll ride the techno colored horse.. wish I had some peyote...
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:45 am

    smelly,

    You are allowed to put questions to the thread, on rare occasions.  

    Otherwise, you see how quickly they degenerate into talk of drugs.  

    If people want to do drugs, you do it on your own time.  Not here.  

    Thanking you for your consideration........
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    I just deleted a post of wk’s because he was not following the new rules.

    Any one else want to test the system?

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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:48 am

    Too many rules Dan... That's not the way way of nature; don't go all procrustean on us.

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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:51 am

    wk,

    There are also laws of nature. When you learn to bend nature’s laws, I will allow you to bend my rules.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:55 am

    I have no questions for Dan he could answer.

    Ask the wise one what you wish Dan, I am open to receive....
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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:55 am

    If I had said I wanted to ride a rainbow colored unicorn instead of techno colored horse have been enough for you?

    Dan I know you have taken some of Owsley's finest so you bent nature your self.
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:58 am

    Don’t play games, wk.  

    No side bars on the forum.  


    smelly,

    Thank you for your offer.  I will get back to you, in due course.  


    I was having a conversation with hobbit about numbers.

    Numbers are extremely important to humans.

    I am going out to lunch. I will have my phone with me, but see if you can stick to the numbers, until we get some resolution.

    In the meantime, I hope just to be able to watch, and not be forced to delete more messages on this ‘Immaterialism’ thread while I’m trying to eat.



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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:01 am

    Sighs, OK Dan, but don't blame me when I feel the place needs a bit livening up.
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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:16 am

    Dan, let me say in keeping, that my whole point is that my truth may in some ways sound like your out of context but that's the way it goes any truth I expound is mine and by no means immutable.

    I think the keys is to be willing to use that as starting point. Yes, I'm here for BPW and in the spirit of Love, I want the BPW to be the best for not only me but everyone else bar none.

    Dose that cover what you were trying to get at, as far as the truth thing goes, in my mind?
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:32 am

    wk,

    Very good.  

    Does anyone have anything to say about numbers?

    I have something to say about them, but not while I’m eating.  
    .......

    For the next hour, you may suggest other topics.......

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    Post by Earthling Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:58 am

    Hello Dan! I a quick thank you for the goto meeting on Monday. I'll be reading over the next few days some past postings here to try and get up to speed.

    Hobbit, it was a pleasure speaking to you after the meeting as well. Keep up the good work. It appears you have found one of your strengths on a road bound for glory.
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:22 am

    Getting to speak with hobbit was a highlight of the meeting.

    I have a much better idea of where he is coming from.

    We have numbers in common.

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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:37 am

    dan wrote:Getting to speak with hobbit was a highlight of the meeting.

    I have a much better idea of where he is coming from.

    We have numbers in common.  

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    Is music similar to numbers in this context?
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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:56 am

    cwallatruth wrote:
    dan wrote:Getting to speak with hobbit was a highlight of the meeting.

    I have a much better idea of where he is coming from.

    We have numbers in common.  

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    Is music similar to numbers in this context?


    Solfeggio.


    The music We hear presently is false.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:03 pm

    Witness the rise of the hobbit or should I say, the lifting of all of us to where he is abiding.
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:05 pm

    Very good answer, hobbit.

    And I will come back with this.......

    How familiar is anyone with Ernest McClain and his Myth of Invariance?

    I studied Ernest in some detail, about 30 years ago, with my Sufi ‘guru’, Bob Clark......

    It’s about the mythology/numerology surrounding the various of the various tuning systems.



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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:13 pm

    Straight lines that enable spirals to flow upon.
    https://www.rosslynchapel.com/news/apprentice-pillar-a-treasure-in-lego/
    https://www.tokenrock.com/cymatics/rosslyn_chapel_cubes/

    I go to countless churches, and view them from My hands.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231829719_Church_Alignment_and_Patronal_Saint's_Days


    Churches don't face east, they are constructed to fit the local geometry of the matrix.

    Rectangles are created by the geometry that enable spiral implosion to occur in opposite directions to each adjoin rectangle, those rectangles give the measure of the ark of the covenant.

    Fleur de lise patterns









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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:23 pm

    Thanks, smelly.  This why we’re here, and this is where we’re headed.  

    Numbers will point the way, won’t they, hobbit?


    Thanks again, hobbit.  

    I am also a student of John Michelle’s.  

    I am also a student of Piazzi Smyth and his pyramid measures......

    But, hobbit, I am trying to engage you in a conversation.  

    You are resisting the engagement.  

    Why, my brother........?  

    Are you afraid?  What are you afraid of?  The Truth?

    Be not afraid, said the angel.  


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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:33 pm

    dan wrote:Thanks, smelly.  This why we’re here, and this is where we’re headed.  

    Numbers will point the way, won’t they, hobbit?  

    They will , but our current measure is flawed, as is music.

    When I first realised that which is detectable was fractionally different to current measure systems I was floored.

    But that which is detectable is of a fixed universal geometry, and I follow many past masters of this.
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:34 pm

    Ok, hobbit, relax, and speak with me about measures........

    Are you aware of the three barleycorn system?

    It might be more familiar to you, under the name of the English system.  

    How familiar are you as to the origin of the Metric system, and how it relates to the three barleycorns?
    .........

    Please, hobbit.......

    Ask me a question, or respond to one of my questions.......

    That is how conversations get started.......

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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:41 pm

    dan wrote:Ok, hobbit, relax, and speak with me about measures........

    Are you aware of the three barleycorn system?

    It might be more familiar to you, under the name of the English system.  

    How familiar are you as to the origin of the Metric system, and how it relates to the three barleycorns?

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    You keep throwing in words and names I have to look up.
    I like Your Mr mclain.
    As above, so below.

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    It's teatime, it always is in Alices place.

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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:44 pm

    hobbit,

    Is there nothing that you want or need to know about numbers?

    You are so full of knowledge.   I will help you learn how to better explain it to others.  

    We labor here, hobbit, under the impression that we are in possession of the Bully Pulpit.  

    Are you scared, intimidated......?

    Be not afraid.  Be yourself, and carry on.

    Are we about to browbeat the masses..... the muppets?

    Yes and no.

    While you are having your tea at Alice’s, I will venture back to an earlier question.......

    How many numbers are there........?

    By the way, almost every question I ask is rhetorical.  How you should have responded is...... no, dan, I don’t know.  How many numbers are there?  

    Here’s my response.......

    Let’s consider the options.......

    The is either a finite or infinite number of numbers.

    In the small world, we do not believe in quantitative, natural infinities.

    Rather, we believe in qualitative infinities.

    The outstanding infinity is the infinity of love. That one can be traced directly to Jesus...... and don’t tell me that he was plagiarizing.

    Jesus owns the infinity of love, the same way that I own the infinity of Truth.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:08 pm

    Dan, are we not here but to let you see your self talk in text Wink


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