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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:27 am

    hobbit,

    We don’t need to run anywhere.  All we need to do is stick with the truth, and all the world will beat a path to our doorstep.

    And, for now, we can just stick with the numbers, which both of us know.......


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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:30 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    We don’t need to run anywhere.  All we need to do is stick with the truth, and all the world will beat a path to our doorstep.  

    There are agencies dedicated to blocking the truth.

    A Russian called Grebennikov found some truth....

    http://www.greatdreams.com/grace/100/125greb.html

    Busy little bees.

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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:31 am

    hobbit,

    Forget about all that other stuff.  That is not for us.  

    The Truth is for us.

    All we need to do is stick with what we know.  

    We know numbers...... full stop!

    If we can figure out numbers, we will have figured out the world and everything in it.  

    Am I right, hobbit?

    And what do we know about numbers.......? You just said it.....

    Numbers do not exist sua sponte.

    Numbers have to come from somewhere. Don’t they?

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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:46 am

    Dan,

    The problem with numbers and measure is the rule utilised.

    We are operating with false rule .

    This will seem an odd link.


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/mindandbody/dementia-gets-better-in-summer-and-autumn-scientists-find/ar-BBMSpX5?MSCC=1536158234&ocid=spartandhp

    The field flows are more balanced in summer and autumn ( between equinoxs.)

    Everything spirals, and is a consequence of variant spiral field shapes, everything is trying to REMEMBER to be or not to be.

    I know feet and inches are flawed, as is metric.
    Nature has the real measure.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:46 am

    Hey hobbit, yesterday when I responded to the ‘belieber’ I posted at 6:33 on page 33 of the discussion.

    Bahahaha

    A wink from the serpent Wink

    You begin to notice the consciousness field in very sublime wayz when your mind isn’t all cocked up and your heart is open.

    Why isn’t our heart always open?

    That is a mystery.

    It seems the ultimate stupidity to deny the experiences drawing us into the center we have that counter our confused minds.

    You know hobbit they probably think we are devils.

    Being a Devil is an honest way to knowing.

    The Devil is a greatly misunderstood energy.

    Underneath the chaos, is great wisdom.

    Profaning yourself is one way to overload the mind circuit, like sticking a pair of scissors into an electric socket.

    In the moment of clarity, as the electricity courses through you, you can glimpse it near the moment of death.

    Once the message is received, hang up the phone.


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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:49 am

    The serpent is a consequence of counter rotational spiral fields.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:58 am

    It’s all for fun you know...I enjoyed sharing my little joke with the world.

    Think Steve or Dan thinks they are a joke?

    Too bad, we would have a lot more fun if folks could just relax and ease into it.

    The correct response is not explanation, it is dancing and singing, very powerful human activities.

    This world is hella cocked up, but I’m not Wink

    I’m cocked in, that doesn’t sound right Wink

    Enjoying the show, please continue your flights of fancy.


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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:02 am

    All we need to do is stick with the truth, wrote:

    LOL Truth, truth... You can't handle the truth; much less perceive the whole of it. Sorry not being rude, this is truth for all of us.

    We are so small, we see the threads of warp and weave even moved out into space and seen a part of the design but we still don't see the whole tapestry. That's the eternal journey. playing catch up with who we are.

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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:08 am

    wk,

    We know just as much truth as we need to know, when we need to know it, because this is the best possible world.  

    Do you disagree??
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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:10 am

    We see truth after the seed is planted, that seed doesn't always come to fruition sadly. Eventually, in time, we will now more than we know now.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:17 am

    Smelly.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWuSPPLtkEQ

    3'6'9....the goose drank wine.

    3'6'9 leads to the whole.

    3...mind, soul, body.

    This trinity operates in 3 +3+3=9

    Where nine parallel lines cross 54 self same around 360 degrees, consciousness clips from adjacent line to adjacent line always following the path of least resistance to the centre point.


    This creates a vortex of implosion, and is how creation operates.

    If a seed falls upon that point, then rapid creation occurs, ask the oak trees , they know.





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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:17 am

    wk,

    Tell me....... what about the Truth do you need to know right now......


    hobbit,

    New rules.......

    For the time being, see if you can pay attention to me.

    Let me pay attention to smelly. If he says something pertinent to the conversation, allow me to respond to smelly first. The conversations go through me, when I’m here.

    Understand......?


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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:20 am

    I know it when I see all through my vagus nerve. LOL I try not to bee to specific.
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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:24 am

    dan wrote:wk,

    Tell me....... what about the Truth do you need to know right now......

    What and how to explain it to the 7 billion people who can't decipher dansmithese.  And if it's inexplicable to the layperson (ie. everyone), then how to get to know the Truth (as you see it) in explicable terms.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:25 am

    dan wrote:wk,

    We know just as much truth as we need to know, when we need to know it, because this is the best possible world.  

    Do you disagree??

    I have no choice but to agree with my self.


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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:25 am

    wk,

    For you, right now, you know exactly what you need to know about the Truth.  

    This is the best possible situation for you.  Yes?  

    What about for everyone else?  Are they not in a similar situation?  


    smelly,

    Very good. Let’s start agreeing on things, as much as we can, in the moment.......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:27 am

    hobbit wrote:Smelly.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWuSPPLtkEQ

    3'6'9....the goose drank wine.

    3'6'9 leads to the whole.

    3...mind, soul, body.

    This trinity operates in 3 +3+3=9

    Where nine parallel lines cross 54 self same around 360 degrees, consciousness clips from adjacent line to adjacent line always following the path of least resistance to the centre point.


    This creates a vortex of implosion, and is how creation operates.

    If a seed falls upon that point, then rapid creation occurs, ask the oak trees , they know.





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    I just asked the Oak tree in the front yard.

    He said you are right.

    I gave him a hug.
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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:29 am

    Dan wrote:This is the best possible situation for you. Yes?

    Sometimes it sure doesn't feel like it. But yes, the truth that I am ready for comes to me through and through. I know though that that truth may be very mutable.


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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:29 am

    smelly,

    The new rules apply to you, too.... oh wise one......


    wk,

    And are you different from everyone else, in this regard?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:30 am

    dan wrote:wk,

    Tell me....... what about the Truth do you need to know right now......


    hobbit,

    New rules.......

    For the time being, see if you can pay attention to me.  

    Let me pay attention to smelly.  If he says something pertinent to the conversation, allow me to respond to smelly first.  The conversations go through me, when I’m here.  

    Understand......?


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    hobbit, post to me in the hello thread so this muppet does not lose his mind.

    But hobbit and I have nothing to share with each other really, we both have the feeling of the flow and others here too.

    Dan, you are circling the bowl me thinks, come on down, turd.


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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:32 am

    Thank you, smelly.
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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:33 am

    smelly wrote:hobbit, post to me in the hello thread so this muppet does not lose his mind.

    Bahahaha You can run but you can't hide!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:35 am

    Dan, you are facing off with wk, hobbit and smelly, your arch foils.

    You sure you are up to this muppet Wink

    We are incorruptible and incorrigible.

    Hey, we make the Four Horsemen, I’ll ride a pale horse...
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    Post by whoknows Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:38 am

    Dan wrote:And are you different from everyone else, in this regard?

    This is going to open a can of worms but...

    Only in that I am unique from you and our needs will differ.
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    Post by dan Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:38 am

    Four horsemen......?  Maybe.

    Ron, Aliyah and I are the three musketeers.


    wk,

    Tell us something we don’t know....... please.

    Otherwise, ask questions......

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