With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
12 zones of the zodiac about a central point 12+1=13. 12 disciples about jesus 12+1=13.
I like 13.
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144.
Ophiuchus
Once You get a grip of that serpent it takes a lot of holding onto, slippery so and so is consciousness. But it likes been recognised , and will supply whatever is desired.
dan wrote:Ok, hobbit, let’s you and me talk about numbers.......
Where did numbers come from? That is my first question to you. Did they come out of thin air?
Did we come out of thin air?
The "air" is the atmosphere where nested geometries of carrier waves create memories called elements, they are local torsion fields. Those fields are attracted to other elements that are resceptive to each others geometries to form compounds …..add infernitum=You.
Universe is a perfectly packed solid of geometric form, the faces of this been the various dimensions, consciousness flows about all of this attracted to it's opposite spin self ( ourorobus)
Excuse spellings.
The torsion fields are upon specific faces of this geometry, our vehicles been 3D.
Consciousness is what is called god. it travels along super high frequency carrier lines along the geometric faces of the packing.
Numbers are derived from frequencies relative to the geometry of the packing, the shapes of numbers been relative to the created field structures by 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9....0 been an overall field shape.
It's a different dimension relative to the faces on a perfectly packed solid universe.
If You ask Me where that came from , I will not defer to a mythical god. I consider that to be a cop out where this mythical god is thought of as a superior being that must be worshipped and feared.
Fear is all there is to fear.
Hermes trismegistus shows the triangle within an upside down triangle in the palm of his hand, that is IMHO ( in my hobbit opinion) A simplification of a super complex geometrical substance that forms universe. Consciousness is the serpent ( a consequence of opposite spin adjoining fields) that flows endlessly about this causing creation via compressions of consciousness.
If one had enough consciousness then, one could replicate a fish or loaves of bread as many times as required , as all in creation are but mere memories, complex memories that humans have developed in the most perfect manner.
dan wrote: If one had enough consciousness then, one could replicate a fish or loaves of bread as many times as required , as all in creation are but mere memories, complex memories that humans have developed in the most perfect manner. hobbit
Your understanding of Jesus not existing, and being borrowed from pagan myths, is based on outdated scholarship, that even agnostics like Bart Ehrman soundly reject. The video below demonstrates this in a humorous fashion.
When it comes to the transcendental argument for God's existence, take the following simple quiz. It will lead you along the logic that Dan is attempting to explicate. I think you will find it helpful in following the argument.
Your understanding of Jesus not existing, and being borrowed from pagan myths, is based on outdated scholarship, that even agnostics like Bart Ehrman soundly reject. The video below demonstrates this in a humorous fashion.
When it comes to the transcendental argument for God's existence, take the following simple quiz. It will lead you along the logic that Dan is attempting to explicate. I think you will find it helpful in following the argument.
http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/
I was a Christian, I totally disagree
Christianity points to direct experience, Jesus preached Zen, they made up the rest. I have studied it all and then I experienced it.
But we will never agree, nor could we.
It ain’t in no book, it fills every book and all space.
If you aren’t a contemplative, you don’t know.
True contemplatives like Thomas Merton are with us.
The rest regurgitate lies.
Direct knowing never condemned any to hell or heaven, foolish religious muppets, oh my.
Until your knowing comes from direct experience, you laughably don’t know shit and should seek others who do ASAP and shut up and listen
Most Christians have no idea to be born again leaves one with no distinctions.
That’s the aroma of love, not sectarianism, that all smells like death. We point to the life within and without here now, the rest is a story.
If you want to really know, you will give up everything, even your life, because you will have to, to accept it all.
When it comes to the transcendental argument for God's existence, take the following simple quiz. It will lead you along the logic that Dan is attempting to explicate. I think you will find it helpful in following the argument.
http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/
I kept clicking "I don't know if absolute truth exists" then "Absolutely true". HA. It then brought me to the begging screen, and honest, I kept repeating this thinking there was a lesson or a pop up eventually.
I have never said jesus didn't exist. To me He will have been shaman.
My understanding of what occurs at the solstice is dowsing based, and involves how the fields interact then.
The carved panels at Angkor wat display this best.
The timing between the solstice and equinox is not equal, and the little chaps pulling the serpent around the pole where a reversal occurs are displaying this.
UFOs are field manipulators, they are time machines where whatever is inside their field displaces in time.
It is only by endless dowsing that I have gained this knowledge of how consciousness is where the truth is.
My biggest driver is to comprehend this truth, not to simply accept the assumption based so called facts.
BELIEVERS are driven by their brain field EGOS to defend that belief,
Here in GB We have lots of megalithic remains, these were the domains of shaman, they are local field modulaters where massive rocks were utilised in precise locations to divert and accumulate massive amounts of the duality of spin flows of consciousness.
I can follow all of this and thus determine the design criterias and timing usage of these devices for consciousness interactions...…..especially reincarnation back to their tribe.
The story of Jesus contains many hidden clues that are not obvious until the ability to recognise the flows of consciousness is gained.
No healing is involved, it is transfer from a huge field to a depleted field where the depleted field then remembers how it is programmed to be...thus heal thyself.
2) The disclosure of that fact is going to be laissez faire
When we grok on these two implicit agreements, we will grok on everything else.
The only thing left to flesh out is the meaning of ‘psychocentric’.
To wit.....
How does psychocentric differ from panpsychic?
The difference between these two terms is similar to the difference between panentheism and pantheism.
The other thing that will have to be fleshed out is the meaning of ‘psyche’.
Are we all together, now......?
Let’s proceed slowly and deliberately......
Laissez faire.......?
Neither donny nor the Princess will directly intervene in Disclosure...... WoM/MoAPS proceeds apace.
IOW, sports fans, I, chicken little, have the bully pulpit, right here on Cy’s OMF. Presidents and Popes may come and go as they please.... laissez faire.....
10:40.........
Ron and I had our morning briefing........
I reported that yesterday’s conversation with Steve Greer was no different than any other conversation I’ve ever had with Steve. Steve doesn’t know the truth, but he knows more of it than any other civilian..... thank you very much for asking.
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When I hung up with Steve, I was going to call the Princess back, but, inadvertently, I dialed David Gladstone. He commutes between San Francisco and Oslo...... poor guy.
The subsequent conversation I had with David was much more enlightening than the one I had with Steve. David ended the conversation with these words, relative to any campaigning...... you can rent me, but you cannot own me. Hmmm.........
After Ron, I had my briefing with Buddy........
During my conversation with Buddy it occurred to me that I don’t need to rent David, because I already own him, in the name of the Truth.
Isn’t that right, hobbit? And, so, I own you as well. I own everyone on the ‘planet’, so long as I own the Truth.
There you have it, sports fans.
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Offer the people ( We the people) the knowledge of how universe operates.
That there will be little need to keep raping this planet as at present, no need for oil dominance and it's plastic consequence.
No need to tarmac so much land, let the planet live naturally.
This can be achieved by field recognition, this will give so called anti gravity, all existing transport can be quickly adapted to operate with field manipulators.
A local field manipulator will enable weight free displacement in whatever direction with no crashes involved ( how many birds do You see hitting each other in huge flocks, or fish in huge shoals?)
We can have the best possible world, which it already is, but it won't be too much longer as humans are killing it.
This is not been done deliberately , but because of ignorance, and greed.
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