Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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Hi Hobbit... the conference will be 9 PM your time. I'll send the link to the Go to Meeting page for that conference here, in this thread at 3:30 PM EST. For you, that would be 8:30 PM. All you have to do is click on that link to participate in that conference. The conference starts at 4 PM EST, 9 PM your time. It's 2:47 PM now in my neck of the woods EST.

Here's the link! https://www.gotomeet.me/OMF99
Starts at 4Pm EST

I’m getting an incorrect meeting/room name......

.... using 66399 or 663-99  .....

Ok, I used the other keypad, but I’m still not getting in.

https://www.gotomeet.me/OMF99

Just logged on and off... this is the link they gave me again.

Smelly is there now.

Ok, it’s waiting for ‘Jan’ to arrive.......

..... still waiting.......


4:06 EST.......

Nothing happens so I’m trying to rejoin.....

4:09........

My GtM seems to have crashed.....

4:15.........

I try to join the meeting OMF99, and it has timed out twice.


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dan wrote:Ok, it’s waiting for ‘Jan’ to arrive.......

..... still waiting.......


4:06 EST.......

Nothing happens so I’m trying to rejoin.....

4:09........

My GtM seems to have crashed.....


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Click on the link Dan.

https://www.gotomeet.me/OMF99

smelly wrote:https://www.gotomeet.me/OMF99

99, we can hear you.

But you can’t hear us, turn your volume up.

I’ve tried from the app and web page.

And I’ve tried from both the phone ......

Now we’re on but Jan cannot hear

Join my goto meeting, select computer audio, https://www.gotomeet.me/smellygoat

I did not join the site.
I can hear smelly, and he's funny.
The meeting has ended.

hobbit

I missed the meeting. Hope it was revelatory.

I enjoyed our first official BPCC meetup. From my perspective it was personal, nod to Dan. It's good to not just type, but to communicate face to face. The people who needed to speak to each other did. We had some technical problems of course, thanks Linda for organizing things.

I really really really enjoyed speaking to you guys, very interesting hearing your experience Linda and Hobbit. I do appreciate all of your experiences and do not in any way think I have some exclusive take on being We all are trying to just live meaningful lives. I find value in living, that's why I don't kill myself. I'll do it as long as I have breath.

Dan asks, who gave us these bodies and breath, our history is important he says and so is the prophetic tradition. Dan is a Heretic, and I have often disagreed on these topics, like do away with all religion, but that can't be forced if it is to take.

I am an anarchist when it comes to religion and I am looking for better ways to communicate to believers, not just punch. I can learn a lot here on OMF and have.

Hitler had other ideas about forcing things.

I think we are all looking for ways to weave our experiences and stories into what is happening around us and inside us and we all have a piece of this puzzle. I hope more of us can share openly our experiences in a positive way, but without fear of it being negative at times, yin and yang.

I will say after my couple years here, some things become more clear and other things open up.

A few points from the discussion below, I recorded it and may edit it, not sure it wouldn't be a bit of a rehash of OMF, but hobbit's system is interesting to hear about, not sure Dan shared anything new.

1) Do the Princess and Foot represent an anti-human agenda?

It seems like the Princess is more Zen than on about Dan's metaphysics or depopulation. Ack, if he is to be believed, seems to have spent a lot of time 1:1 with the Princess and he always spoke positively about it to me. I know she helped some people, doesn't seem too evil to me on the surface. I feel we are beyond concepts when in direct experience, but thought is part of the experience. We can't just ignore all thought, obviously, but maybe we can learn to calm down. We can't ignore our hearts either.

2) Dan oversimplifies others' experiences sometimes. I don't think you can speak about direct knowing unless you have experienced it. Dan has had a Sophia moment he calls it, but he does not abide there by his own admission, he is personal in the small world, he is focused and obsessed with explaining the world our hearts are living in, where I say, just live in it.

3) Disclosure is happening slowly and that's a good thing maybe. Hobbit thought this as well as Dan. Hobbit described a process of transmutation we are going through and I think we all agreed on that. Disclosure is about discerning the connections to each other and meaning in a bigger picture. It reduces down to the mystery of consciousness. We may not all be aware of the bigger picture. Some of us are snatched into it and some of us volunteer it seems to map out the lay of the land. Dan feels it of utmost importance we find away to integrate religion and science and awareness.

For sure, man, right on, dude, I'm right behind you.

4) Dan says my and the 1:1 approach can't help the culture, well, that's just like, his opinion, man. We all should be true to what we feel to be and allow others to be as they are. Can that message be easily palatable to the masses? Dan seems to agree, be what you are.
I personally will enjoy spending more time with these folks. I have something more to learn here, more to always be learning it seems. But we have to digest it and think about it maybe a little before we share it.

5) Dan and Hobbit disagreed about the cyclical nature or not of the universe and Dan clearly says, this is our best possible time around.

I learned some things I probably am suppressing and it's good to realize I have been a tad bit rebelious to organized religion and Disclosure here, which may have been just the right thing, of course it was, but i am being challenged to think bigger.

But I don't want to take my eyes away from what I have found here to be entirely personal, so personal, I don't think about it ending or if it changes into something new.

I don't know how I could help Dan really other than what I am doing, or that it helps at all, we all need each other is the net of the whole discusssion.

Helping the transformation of the world egg may mean it must end as it is now. We all have a lot of conditioning and manipulation to undue.

It is clear we do not all stand on the same ground and others have been very manipulative of others. I feel the call of the Stoic to stand against Tyranny wherever it is found in conflict with the Zen goat saying faget about it, it will all work out.

I can only speak from my experience. I deconstructed it all and like to deconstruct things here on OMF. I think Dan and others can help put the pieces back together.

At least I am engaging. I am not sitting on the side. I also to hobbits point, maybe don't know how to use these new symbols and system yet and don't know what to do really.

That's about right, I cut my connection to any future, maybe now the Cosmos is giving it back, by showing the true nature of our connections.

Dan suspects some of Zen was meant to keep the masses down. Probably true, it seems everyone tries to manipulate everything else.

Next time, I can arrange the conference call with Join.me 99, https://www.join.me. I run these at work all the time and I can minimize technical issues. I am also happy to facilitate our chat. Others can also facilitate. Good to have an agenda too. Let's get organized here. Send me email topic reqs and I can arrange with Dan what he wants to cover on a call. Maybe we start broadcasting radio shows again?

I say we feature different guest speakers. Attract an audience. We need some focused time with Dan I think to let him unpack things. I'd like to interview Ron and/or the Princess.

My first question, are you the prince and princess of darkness?

But let's let others share and hear what you got!!!!

I think we should plan the next BPCC with Dan ASAP. May I suggest, those who want to be on the call will be sent an invite. Please don't spam my email with gay porn

Email me if you want to be a part of the next call and I can arrange it and send you an invite. I will also post the url to the public Join.me meeting.

Let me know if you aren't ok with this 99.

BPCC Topic Requests: dasmellygoat@gmail.com

hobbit wrote:I did not join the site.
I can hear smelly, and he's funny.
The meeting has ended.

hobbit

hobbit is very funny too, we got a kick out of watching Dan walk around for 20 mins.

OMG Dude, focus Dan!!!!!

Thank you, smelly.  There were only a couple of significant errors.  


Here are some texts to AP.  He’s not up, yet.......

Why weren’t you at the meeting?  I believe that smelly and I can get our act together.  He will be my devil’s advocate.  What will you be?  We are forming the Disclosure party.

I’ll wager that Mike Pence could be persuaded to be Vice President.  

The first priority of the Disclosure party will be to have a 24/7 Disclosure channel.

..... and so it goes.......

Ron and Aliyah are the main instigators, here, following up on Maria dM’s suggestion.  

Btw, the Disclosure party will be a one party system, unless someone wants to form a nonDisclosure party.  Lots of luck....


7:15(gmt-3)........

AP is on board......

All we need now would be Greer and Firmage, who, Ron suggests, are waiting to be invited on board..... to get this ball rolling.  

We agree that there are intelligences out there.  My claim is that they are waiting on us to make the first move.  

And I agree with smelly that there really is no need for disclosure, in that we already know everything.  We just need to give ourselves permission to realize it.  

The main thing the pantheists need to do is be consistent in their thinking about time.  Yes, time is an illusion, so it makes no sense to talk about endless cycles of time or history.  Yes?????!!!!!

The Kingdom and Love are within.  We just need to figure how to let them out in a semi orderly fashion.  We can do that, as soon as we understand who we are, from whence we came, and wither we go.  

The Visitors are here just to trigger our awakening to the Truth that is within every one of us.  

8:35.........

The problem with ISIS was that they could only promise you 72 virgins.  We promise you 10^10 virgins.  Why can’t we promise you an infinity of virgins?  If you think about that, you may better appreciate the BPWH/SWH...... it’s all about persons and personalism.  

And best yet, you don’t have to postpone your reward until heaven. It’s waiting for you right behind the green door.



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I saw God, says Beatles star Paul McCartney
Sir Paul confessed to an other-worldly encounter after taking the drug DMT.

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/i-saw-god-says-beatles-star-paul-mccartney-37274320.html

Smelly wrote:Next time, I can arrange the conference call with Join.me 99, https://www.join.me.

(note: I'll email you) 

Also, I don't know how many co-presenters are allowed using Join Me but Smiley, you could have it so that position could be rotated amongst members of this forum. This would give everyone here an opportunity to co-present with you for each weekly OMF Webcam Conference which, btw, I think is a great idea! 


This will be your show! You can call it, "The OMF Show hosted by Eric Garcia"

GSB/SSR wrote:I saw God, says Beatles star Paul McCartney
Sir Paul confessed to an other-worldly encounter after taking the drug DMT.

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/i-saw-god-says-beatles-star-paul-mccartney-37274320.html

When I first tripped on acid. I met George Harrison in a diner.

I asked was he God, he said, you know what’s happening and who I am.

I remember now vivid as a picture.

He said I’m so glad you made it here.

I have been waiting.

Here?

Waiting?

He told me the deal and gave me some tips.

It was an incredible memory, from acid?

The world is a mysterious experience.

99 wrote:

Smelly wrote:Next time, I can arrange the conference call with Join.me 99, https://www.join.me.

(note: I'll email you) 

Also, I don't know how many co-presenters are allowed using Join Me but Smiley, you could have it so that position could be rotated amongst members of this forum. This would give everyone here an opportunity to co-present with you for each weekly OMF Conference which, btw, I think is a great idea! 


This will be your show! You can call it, "The OMF Show hosted by Eric Garcia"

I like the BPCC, but we can figure the details out.

There might just be 5 of us on a call a week, but so what?!

I’ll talk to ants and crickets if they’ll listen

An Infinity of Virgins? WTF? Did someone slip some guarana into chicken little's tea?

And does Cyrellas really believe Q Anon is legit? Holy Moly.

CC, I hope not, QAnon is such garbage, could make a new science studying it.

Dan, I came across this. Marcus chided me. Where once I thought rage healthy, it’s not.

It’s not Stoic, it’s not Zen, it’s not Dude, it’s just stupid.

So here is to our collective calmness.

Ironic that Marcus had to live in such violence and make it himself, but he did it from a calm center. He was a surgeon cutting out disease. Rage is a disease inside us, let’s let the light in on it. It’s just about control and fear.

That rage can still rise up in me is a sign I still have fear, that I still seek control of certain things I can never control.

It is an odd thing to unravel yourself, there I am on the floor, a pile of string.

“Keep this thought handy when you feel a fit of rage coming on: it isn’t manly to be enraged. Rather, gentleness and civility are more human, and therefore manlier. A real man doesn’t give way to anger and discontent, and such a person has strength, courage, and endurance — unlike the angry and complaining. The nearer a man comes to a calm mind, the closer he is to strength.”

—Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor from 161 to 180

And Dan another follow up from our chat on Buddha. I was tryin to make the point there can be no form of god, all form is god. So any form claiming to know or be god is full of galactic goat shit. The manipulation of our stupidity allows religion to control the masses. We have but to look at the rich for the source of all the confusion.

I was meditating about this today and came across the below. I don’t sit still when I meditate, I let my fingers pick random things and I see what the stones say. Much more fun than just sitting still listening to nothing. It’s scrying I guess, like hobbit’s dowsing.

I can dowse information from the matrix through my heart portal, or something like that. There are three energy centers above the heart and three below, in the center, in the heart, is what hobbit speaks of, there you can some how become aware of your surroundings in a direct way.

The personal and impersonal mix and meet in the center.

Take it or leave it.

“There is no such person as Buddha. Buddha is simply a Sanskrit word meaning “initiate.” The Absolute is immanent in every man’s heart. This “treasure of the heart” is the only Buddha that exists. It is no use seeking Buddha outside your own nature. Prayer, scripture-reading, fasting, the observance of monastic rules—all are useless. Those who seek Buddha do not find him. You may know by heart all the Sūtras of the twelve divisions, and yet be unable to escape from the Wheel of Life and Death. One thing alone[10] avails—to discover the unreality of the World by contemplating the Absolute which is at the root of one’s own nature.”

—Bhodidharma

Where your quest Dan is a thinking working understanding of how things work fundamentally, you must contend with individual personal realities, each has one. It’s in the experience, not words about it. Perhaps a more general orientation to the way the Cosmos works is the best setup to discover this yourself and we are helping map that out for a few maybe, ourselves mostly.

“Ogres and hobgoblins can at will assume the outward form of Bodhisattvas; such are heretical and not of the true Buddha. There is no Buddha but your own thoughts. Buddha is the Way. The Way is Zen. This word Zen cannot be understood even of the wise. Zen means ‘for a man to behold his fundamental nature.’”

—Bodhidharma

How many ogres and hobgoblins are masquerading as the light before us now? The Zen fought tyranny plenty of times Dan and rose up. You don’t know your history as well as you claim.

People need to be careful just swallowing what others say because it’s wrapped in a crazy package. They can only know themselves ultimately through direct experience and realization is something I lived and live, so you have to accept it somehow, as I have to accept your thought salad.

It is a test to see through their glamour and illusion from the same source that made my body perhaps.

And more and more the UFO experience feels like an initiation into a more whole order.

We can’t look at ot with paranoid human eyes in a limited world, or from greed or fear, we have to experience the mystery of it from our metaphorical heart center.

Is that God? It is the experience of wholeness, that’s as close as I come to say God.

“The highest truths cannot be written down or taught by speech. A man who cannot write a word, can yet contemplate his own heart and become wise. Knowledge of 1,000 Sūtras and 10,000 Shāstras cannot help him to realise the Absolute within him.”

Look at the amazing synchronicity above, I’m fucking blown away how it describes the beautiful hobbit. Hobbit dude, you are fucking beautiful and I see you blazing like the Sun in my heart.

That has to be God

I will stay open minded. The questions of a next act or god are not settled for me at all, but I don’t spend time thinking about that stuff anymore, it will be resolved soon enough

I have to remain Agnostic until I just can’t see anything else but the Sun in my eyes.

I can’t name it or pray to it or fear it.

I find you very foolish for playing with these old silly notions Dan, but that’s like, your thing, man.

This is the psychology of the heart Dan, a meta-psychology not in the head.

This is the psychology of going headless.

I can’t change my spots man or what helped me, many paths to it, but you think the Zen are void worshippers and it’s just not so.

I think maybe this journey for you and all of us is into this heart center of consciousness.

Sounds sappy, because the mind snakes make it seem so, it is beautiful. This is the psycology of the Buddhas.

Our chaos is ancient and deep, a universe of pain. I am not a Buddhist or Zen, but theirs is Jesus’ gospel of being born again through the heart portal while alive.

I look for correspondences, not proof, feeling my way. I can’t give a scientific answer to realization.

So when you enter into the center with your small capacity, of course there is danger. But without facing this danger nobody has ever become integrated, nobody has ever become an individual, indivisible.

Zen, or meditation, is the method which will help you to go through the chaos, through the dark night of the soul, balanced, disciplined, alert. The dawn is not far away, but before you can reach the dawn, the dark night has to be passed through. And as the dawn comes closer, the night will become darker.

We are now within our collective Dark Night of the Soul, we will come out of this, we will, we already have.

We should talk about time next time

Haha, ok, this is the last of the good stuff I coughed up.

This is good shit, man.

Energetic call!

So who can find the center?

“Provided he contemplate his own inner-nature, he will achieve Buddhahood. It does not matter about his lusts. Even a butcher can achieve Buddhahood, if he searches in his own heart.”

“What,” cried his listeners, “a butcher, who lives by taking life, and he achieve Buddhahood?” The master replied:

“It is not a question of the man’s trade. If he has learnt to know his own nature he will be saved.

“I have come from India only to teach you that Buddha is Thought. I care nothing for monastic rules or ascetic practices. As for walking on water or through fire, climbing sword-wheels, fasting, sitting upright for hours without rest—all such practices are heretical; they belong to the World of Being.

“Thought, Thought, Thought! It is hard to seek. Expanding, it covers the whole world; shrinking, it is too small to lodge a pin.

“I seek the heart; I do not seek Buddha. For I have[11] learnt to know that the outer world is empty and untenanted.”

—Bodhidharma

I seek the heart...we are being hunted and collected, one heart at a time Dan, this is sublime work no one can really understand at the edge of the void.

Wow, that was some good meditation....BURP!!!