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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Dan, Foot,
Dr. SG calling you out at around 52:30 mark. Do you have a response?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_EPLW2Ctvo
Dr. SG calling you out at around 52:30 mark. Do you have a response?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_EPLW2Ctvo
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Cw, I give you naked reality beyond time and space here now and this is your pathetic egoic response 
Of course it is you muppet.
Dig deeper...see clearer...Be love.
You stopped and wouldn’t enter in with me.
I won’t stop trying to bring all to ground.
Of course it is you muppet.
Dig deeper...see clearer...Be love.
You stopped and wouldn’t enter in with me.
I won’t stop trying to bring all to ground.
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DR S G is taking some liberty here , to say it mildly, with his assessment of Salt Lake .
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cw if you be an honest seeker of the rabbit, it is diving into what you don’t enjoy that holds the most fun.
I was honest, you stand on hope of something you have now Fool.
I’m here to illumaite your ignorance.
You have to better than me to win.
You can’t win
The rock feels no pain and the island never cries.
Muah
I was honest, you stand on hope of something you have now Fool.
I’m here to illumaite your ignorance.
You have to better than me to win.
You can’t win
The rock feels no pain and the island never cries.
Muah
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To borrow a phrase smelly.
bahahahaha
bahahahaha
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smelly wrote:Cw, I give you naked reality beyond time and space here now and this is your pathetic egoic response
Of course it is you muppet.
Dig deeper...see clearer...Be love.
You stopped and wouldn’t enter in with me.
I won’t stop trying to bring all to ground.
Haha! I do very much appreciate your efforts. I feel like I am love, but I do want to continue to participate in this earthly life I chose. But I want to continue to do it closer and closer from the perspective of my spiritual self. What do you recommend will help, specifically?
Further, do you suggest that there is no potential incremental knowing of spirit that could persist in some perpetual fashion? Like when you are tripping on mushrooms, that oneness and understanding of spirit more than when you are sober.... can that not be had or learned from in an ongoing way? I liken this desire for more knowledge of spirit to the desire for sex. Do you abstain from sex, or do you participate b/c it brings you pleasure? I assume the latter, and only suggest that some gain of additional knowledge of spirit, whether aided by medicines or long term meditation, is only a desire that is okay to participate in, like sex.
It could be that DEEP attachment (not detachment) could provide the greatest earthly adventure. Remember, we purposely forgot that we are god, so that we could attach to things and grow from then after realizing that they are illusions. I want to see the illusions from the perspective of the spirit, and want to know what it feels like when I'm not in this material earth while I'm on this material earth (note: I don't want to commit suicide.... I believe you recently posted on that, even though suicide is the logical path for seeking that ultimate spiritual experience). I want to attach to figuring out how to become one with my godself while experiencing life on earth. Is that possible?
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painterdoug wrote:DR S G is taking some liberty here , to say it mildly, with his assessment of Salt Lake .
Thanks Doug. That was sort of my feeling, but as a muppet, it's always difficult to discern anything. I do wonder if SG ever gets to see credible "evidence" to support what he says so confidently as the truth.
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Just a reminder....
Yes, it's still on!
More information later!
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cwallatruth wrote:smelly wrote:Cw, I give you naked reality beyond time and space here now and this is your pathetic egoic response
Of course it is you muppet.
Dig deeper...see clearer...Be love.
You stopped and wouldn’t enter in with me.
I won’t stop trying to bring all to ground.
Haha! I do very much appreciate your efforts. I feel like I am love, but I do want to continue to participate in this earthly life I chose. But I want to continue to do it closer and closer from the perspective of my spiritual self. What do you recommend will help, specifically?
Further, do you suggest that there is no potential incremental knowing of spirit that could persist in some perpetual fashion? Like when you are tripping on mushrooms, that oneness and understanding of spirit more than when you are sober.... can that not be had or learned from in an ongoing way? I liken this desire for more knowledge of spirit to the desire for sex. Do you abstain from sex, or do you participate b/c it brings you pleasure? I assume the latter, and only suggest that some gain of additional knowledge of spirit, whether aided by medicines or long term meditation, is only a desire that is okay to participate in, like sex.
It could be that DEEP attachment (not detachment) could provide the greatest earthly adventure. Remember, we purposely forgot that we are god, so that we could attach to things and grow from then after realizing that they are illusions. I want to see the illusions from the perspective of the spirit, and want to know what it feels like when I'm not in this material earth while I'm on this material earth (note: I don't want to commit suicide.... I believe you recently posted on that, even though suicide is the logical path for seeking that ultimate spiritual experience). I want to attach to figuring out how to become one with my godself while experiencing life on earth. Is that possible?
Listen to me while I have your attention and you are free of the mindsnakes!!!!!!!!!
cw, for all the love in the world, run for it!!!!!
Now, while you have a moment of doubt, rrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!
Sink your roots down deep, from here, on the ground, with me, where we are, right here now.
Now, if you make it to ground and sink your roots, you have a chance, just the slimmest chance.
Said all I can
Ruuuunnnnnnnn Mupppppppeeettttt, make Hell a Heaven here now and you win, win WIN!!!!!!!!!
I always WINNNNNNNNNNZZZZZZZZZZZ
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That was fun, thank you for your consideration.
You can't beat me cw, you would have to be lower than I, and there is no place lower.
you, so high up there in your sky
why do you cry
I hear my chariot though a'comin, trains up in the sky, can you hear it...
Burn your idols the mighty angel roars, bring out your dead and dying and I shall finish the job!!!
For my name is Death and I ride a pale horse....
"I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth."
You can NOT move faster than I can, I can travel any distance in no time from here now.
We are all idolaters, so burn yourself up into a little pile of ashes and then we can speak again.
Until then, I leave you to the wolves to be devoured, enjoy their bloody sharp teeth as they rip your flesh from your bones, the sweet sound of muppet death fills my ears and heart.
Then talk to me about what you think spirit is muppet
Bahahaha
Has it ever seemed I was not my spirit here, live.
I do not name it or claim it.
This is happening.
What more does anyone know about it than their experience of it?!
They are all fools and liars.
Every last human on a spiritual quest ends in the void.
What could that mean to you, only you know.
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99 wrote:Just a reminder....Yes, it's still on!More information later!
There with bells on...bahahahaha
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SG is honest, but some of his sources are not. My sense is there may be a dollar tree in the loop.
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cw, to answer your question I missed in my spiritual enflamement, I hold nothing back from myself.
I give quarter to no ignorance or fool, though all my friends are self professed ignorant fools.
I give in to every appetite in the most 'detached' way.
I drink and get high.
Belly to prove it.
I howl at the moon.
I yell and scream and make sweet love.
I indulge completely in my life.
I'm living it up.
Its too much funz.
And I'm not a deluded muppet, I am a grounded Human Being.
I will speak on the desire for knowledge another time, I have DNA to sequence...
I am a Master of the DNA snakes.
It now serves my will, for I have proven worthy to unlock its secrets and they are never ending.
I give quarter to no ignorance or fool, though all my friends are self professed ignorant fools.
I give in to every appetite in the most 'detached' way.
I drink and get high.
Belly to prove it.
I howl at the moon.
I yell and scream and make sweet love.
I indulge completely in my life.
I'm living it up.
Its too much funz.
And I'm not a deluded muppet, I am a grounded Human Being.
I will speak on the desire for knowledge another time, I have DNA to sequence...
I am a Master of the DNA snakes.
It now serves my will, for I have proven worthy to unlock its secrets and they are never ending.
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I’ve been seeing lots of hawks lately. I think that’s my spirit animal.
I wonder if Greer has been Benniwitz’d. I listen to Elizondo and he seems so trustworthy and “normal”. Perhaps he’s the greatest disinformation agent in years. Or he’s a puppet that is stuck in a stovepipe. What would happen if the entire population stopped what they were doing for 60 seconds and hugged a neighbor while focusing on their breath and projected love. Could that sort of positive collective consciousness have a lasting effect?
Smelly,
You’ve said a couple of times now “I can’t win”. I didn’t realize we were in a game where there are winners and losers. We are all winners... IMHO. I appreciate your comments. I have no chance of beating you. Fear is a human construct based on the certainty of death. Is why you felt bad when you saw that potential bridge jumper. He might have been an angel sent to remind you that you are still afraid of death.
I wonder if Greer has been Benniwitz’d. I listen to Elizondo and he seems so trustworthy and “normal”. Perhaps he’s the greatest disinformation agent in years. Or he’s a puppet that is stuck in a stovepipe. What would happen if the entire population stopped what they were doing for 60 seconds and hugged a neighbor while focusing on their breath and projected love. Could that sort of positive collective consciousness have a lasting effect?
Smelly,
You’ve said a couple of times now “I can’t win”. I didn’t realize we were in a game where there are winners and losers. We are all winners... IMHO. I appreciate your comments. I have no chance of beating you. Fear is a human construct based on the certainty of death. Is why you felt bad when you saw that potential bridge jumper. He might have been an angel sent to remind you that you are still afraid of death.
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cwallatruth wrote:I’ve been seeing lots of hawks lately. I think that’s my spirit animal.
I wonder if Greer has been Benniwitz’d. I listen to Elizondo and he seems so trustworthy and “normal”. Perhaps he’s the greatest disinformation agent in years. Or he’s a puppet that is stuck in a stovepipe. What would happen if the entire population stopped what they were doing for 60 seconds and hugged a neighbor while focusing on their breath and projected love. Could that sort of positive collective consciousness have a lasting effect?
Smelly,
You’ve said a couple of times now “I can’t win”. I didn’t realize we were in a game where there are winners and losers. We are all winners... IMHO. I appreciate your comments. I have no chance of beating you. Fear is a human construct based on the certainty of death. Is why you felt bad when you saw that potential bridge jumper. He might have been an angel sent to remind you that you are still afraid of death.
Don’t be so literal Muppet.
It was a literary flourish saying, it is a game, we all win was my point.
You are here, you won, this is where it’s happening, not anywhere else but now.
Don’t presume why something happens to someone or why.
I was paying attention and wrote an essay about what I learned.
I was very open and honest about it.
No, I personally have no fear of death.
I don’t want it to hurt too much.
But it’s settled here, why no one could ever beat me, only join me here at ground level.
I don’t have to prove it nor could I, but I never lie and I know my self for what it is.
If you start posting honestly and nakedly, I will see you are also winning.
I appreciate your comments.
And that brings us full circle, I hope you enjoyed the ride.
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SlimShady, thanks for the gay porn
I like black on white as a preference.
At least send me some straight muppet porn I can enjoy.
I can send you my turn ons I guess.
Man D and A don’t do anything for me muppet.
AP or Ack, I’m just not into you like that.
Don’t ban him 99, I kinda like it.
I like black on white as a preference.
At least send me some straight muppet porn I can enjoy.
I can send you my turn ons I guess.
Man D and A don’t do anything for me muppet.
AP or Ack, I’m just not into you like that.
Don’t ban him 99, I kinda like it.
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smelly wrote:
Don’t be so literal Muppet.
It was a literary flourish saying, it is a game, we all win was my point.
You are here, you won, this is where it’s happening, not anywhere else but now.
Don’t presume why something happens to someone or why.
I was paying attention and wrote an essay about what I learned.
I was very open and honest about it.
No, I personally have no fear of death.
I don’t want it to hurt too much.
But it’s settled here, why no one could ever beat me, only join me here at ground level.
I don’t have to prove it nor could I, but I never lie and I know my self for what it is.
If you start posting honestly and nakedly, I will see you are also winning.
I appreciate your comments.
And that brings us full circle, I hope you enjoyed the ride.
Yeah, I think I never had that confidence as a kid. It’s why I’m searching. Searching for answers. at first through the Bible. And then through marriage. And then through divorce. And then through UFOs. And finally through consciousness. And this is where I find myself. On OMF for Christ’s sake.
But we all want answers. Because we need to validate ourselves. Before time runs out. We strive, we push.... to be better than someone else. To have something. And why? Because we die. And we want it to mean something before we do. So thank god for death. If we lived forever we’d have no reason to search for validation.
BUT, we do live forever. Because we are god. We will go back to being stardust into some other consciousness realm to be experienced. So we tricked ourselves into thinking that we weren’t god and created earth and made ourselves into humans that die so we could search for answers.
And that... brings us full circle.
You inspire me Smelly. I love your energy. Isn’t kissing up the ultimate nakedness? I’m here for you and you here for me. And whoever the universe (aka ‘us’) wants to bring to us for growth then so it shall be. This dude... also abides!
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Footman is right. Dollar Tree is where Greer buys his muscle tees.
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Smelly trying to hang with his OMF friends...
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Course Catalog wrote:Footman is right. Dollar Tree is where Greer buys his muscle tees.
too funny. 
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Some, at least, do understand who ‘dollar tree’ is.......?
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cwallatruth wrote:smelly wrote:
Don’t be so literal Muppet.
It was a literary flourish saying, it is a game, we all win was my point.
You are here, you won, this is where it’s happening, not anywhere else but now.
Don’t presume why something happens to someone or why.
I was paying attention and wrote an essay about what I learned.
I was very open and honest about it.
No, I personally have no fear of death.
I don’t want it to hurt too much.
But it’s settled here, why no one could ever beat me, only join me here at ground level.
I don’t have to prove it nor could I, but I never lie and I know my self for what it is.
If you start posting honestly and nakedly, I will see you are also winning.
I appreciate your comments.
And that brings us full circle, I hope you enjoyed the ride.
Yeah, I think I never had that confidence as a kid. It’s why I’m searching. Searching for answers. at first through the Bible. And then through marriage. And then through divorce. And then through UFOs. And finally through consciousness. And this is where I find myself. On OMF for Christ’s sake.
But we all want answers. Because we need to validate ourselves. Before time runs out. We strive, we push.... to be better than someone else. To have something. And why? Because we die. And we want it to mean something before we do. So thank god for death. If we lived forever we’d have no reason to search for validation.
BUT, we do live forever. Because we are god. We will go back to being stardust into some other consciousness realm to be experienced. So we tricked ourselves into thinking that we weren’t god and created earth and made ourselves into humans that die so we could search for answers.
And that... brings us full circle.
You inspire me Smelly. I love your energy. Isn’t kissing up the ultimate nakedness? I’m here for you and you here for me. And whoever the universe (aka ‘us’) wants to bring to us for growth then so it shall be. This dude... also abides!
The search is the greatest fun in life, I think you will find what you seek, in fact, I’m sure of it, but that doesn’t help you.
You have to be sure for yourself and settle it, sure enough to face the Princes of Heaven and Perdition and not blink
I don’t know about eternity and god and spirit, I know this, what else can I speak about other than here now?
Our energy comes from an ever flowing spring it seems, who can explain it?!
People literally die of thirst as the water of life runs through their hands, if they would but make a cup, they could drink their fill.
The goat can walk through heaven and hell without a thought, that’s a clue.
No answers here unfortunately, just a grin.
What if I told you, after all you’re seeking and struggling and pain, it only ends in a grin?
Would you still seek to know?
When you find that grin, and you may have already, it will rush in on you, like a star imploding.
It is a mystery to me still, this fucking grin
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99 wrote:
How do we dial into this?
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smelly wrote:99 wrote:
How do we dial into this?
If nobody says anything soon, I am off to bed.
Hobbit
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