Persons within the substance of love.

First topic message reminder :

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Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
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(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

dan wrote:
Ackbar,

Your gift of destruction and death comes with ease.....

I’m waiting for you to explain.  Is the Princess going to be the angel of death?

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I know nothing about the Princess you speak of. The Princess you know and speak of is the one who moves and groves the material world. I'm talking about something else entirely. I'm talking about the Queen, not the Princess.

I can only speak in regards to the Queen between the worlds I've seen. The one the untrained eyes can't see. The Queen whose drones fly to and fro not knowing whence they came or where they go. The one behind this veil of tears that can't be reached unless you have no fears.

murnut wrote:It's also possible that he doesn't know...

Being able to cloak a helicopter or jet would be pretty much classified

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All sorts of things are possible. But that's not what the declassified report he cited in the speech said. Your choice whether to buy-in on those words. Not my concern.

Consider Everything,
Believe Nothing

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Course Catalog wrote:Ackbar sounds a little too at ease with mass casualties for my taste.

Without Death there could be no life. I am at ease always. Destruction is a form of creation. This body and brain will rot away and nothing will be left but dirt and clay. Yet here and now will stay to play in the darkness of the nothing day. These thoughts and memories will pass away as all things do that come our way. But I know nothing, this is just the part I play. I think the story watcher is here to stay, I saw IT when I retroversed the ray.

Who knows? I don't. IT comes what may.

Dan....
Ive meandered in the days of the future ....
There will be fear-mongers, callous needlers & smirking trickters, who relish their chiding of truth-seekers and lovers of light...
They will try to scare ... but ....like the bouncing box.... they are a portal to nowhere...
They shake and praddle BUT UPLIFT no one...

Yes.... the dominos will fall QUICKLY...and SOON...but it doesn't take a genius to use our most patriotic day of the year as FEAR-BAIT against those who fear another attack....

As someone who lived thru 9/11 ... on upper east side...i lost 6 firemen from my house... my friends lost family...and i smelled the buildings smolder till December...a smell you cant forget...so personally
even terrorist attack inuondo is pretty heartless ...or worse...

Disclosure is in people's hands… there is real mine blowing information that has nothing to do this distraction… What's located in Los Alamos and Tonopah, Homestead Air Force Base ....& buried in yards wink wink

LOVE WINS

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I would like to note,

I've said nothing about terror attacks.

The only thing I said about the 4th of July is that I know what is coming and it is what time travelers know and it hides in the present.

I've said I know nothing but that which I see and experience in final participation.

Love is letting go of fear. I do not wish to spread fear, it spreads to those who choose to let it.

I view death and destruction, especially my own, as a gift and blessing. I did not say death and destruction would come at any specific time or day. I only said I viewed it as a gift from my Queen from the great unseen.

Most people confuse love with Ego stroking.

To love is nothing, to be loved is something, to love and be loved is everything.

Love does not care about giving or receiving. Those are human concepts made up to feel good about their false identities of who they think they are.

Most people go and give service to others only to feel good about themselves. They like the way it makes them feel about themselves. It is just a higher form of selfishness. They pretend they are doing it for others but they are actually doing it for themselves. I don't know. Maybe.

True love is something different. Agape love is more like a river. It is love with no object. It is a state of being. It gives when others take and takes when others give, but it does not choose who to take or give from or when to take or give. It is like the aroma of flowers. It waits and allows the world to come and go as they please. It trusts all is as it should be and gives no thought for the morrow.

True agape love is like a pregnant mother, giving life to the unborn fetus but getting nothing in return. She just enjoys watching the child grow and develop and does not try to interfere with the natural process of growth. She trusts nature completely.

Nature includes both life and death, so death is also a gift of love.

Perhaps this is why we don't see people like the Princess or Ron on here trying to control other people or the world's natural growth process by preaching and teaching.

I do not preach or teach.

I come here and simply sing a song. I know I cannot teach others anything and I am attached to no outcomes. I don't want to help anybody because everyone already has everything they need here and Now. I have everything I need also, and so there is no need to teach. We are our own teachers only.

When I am here posting messages do I miss out on final participation? Who knows. I don't. I do not doing. Spontaneous action moves me and I let it flow. To put in any effort to stop the flow would mean I fear the great unknown. If I try to stop the flow it means my Ego is trying to one up itself. Sneaky bastard.

You just flow effortlessly like water...if you want. Hands off the oars. If tomorrow the world is destroyed by a giant reptilian overlord, cool. Maybe we create a new one. Maybe we don't.

But when you live this way you see you are not separate from anything. Everything and everyone is you, so you treat yourself the way you would want to be treated.

Don't listen to me I'm just singing. Go out and be with family and smell the flowers of your gardens constantly. Changing the world starts with your ME.

The Lake is clear and blue, sometimes old, and sometimes new. Where once there walked terrible lizards, now there comes cleansing blizzards. No time to spin the gyros fast, this world soon will be in the past. There are open doors through which to pass, for those who transcend through righteous mass.

Foot Mann wrote:The Lake is clear and blue, sometimes old, and sometimes new. Where once there walked terrible lizards, now there comes cleansing blizzards. No time to spin the gyros fast, this world soon will be in the past. There are open doors through which to pass, for those who transcend through righteous mass.

Yay, he lives!

Been a while Ron. Good to feel the energy behind your words.

They always seem to bear a calm and tranquil quality.

It progresses to that state and moves closer to the gate, but it's careful not to be controlled by fear of what it thinks the others think of it.

But still a gentle hand to guide and show the way is very helpful in many ways.

Gravity pulls so effortlessly.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out Ron and good riddance

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So portals open up in the distant past where mankind will start all over again in some kind of reset thereby becoming our own ancestors?

Ackbar wrote:

Foot Mann wrote:The Lake is clear and blue, sometimes old, and sometimes new. Where once there walked terrible lizards, now there comes cleansing blizzards. No time to spin the gyros fast, this world soon will be in the past. There are open doors through which to pass, for those who transcend through righteous mass.

Yay, he lives!

Been a while Ron. Good to feel the energy behind your words.

Come now, must we still pretend that Ron is writing these words? Or pretend like it's WCM etc... one needs to look no further than the profile image to know who's penning these messages.

But I have a feeling Ack knew that already, he's just trying to sell the catfish. I can tell a bad pitch when I see it.

Macbeth said it best .....
"... _______full of sound and fury.....Signifying nothing"


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Next they'll tell us THE VISITORS are a threat?!?!?




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Ackbar,

The Princess will, in some instances, acknowledge a connection with the queen bee of the Hive.  Should I doubt her word?  

Is the queen also the angel of death?  Well, she can sting.

Well, murnut...... if you say so.
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Speaking of Isis, though, I am more of a binitarian than a trinitarian.  The spirit is more interpersonal than personal.  But, do keep in mind that we, persons, are also essentially interpersonal/social beings.  

The logos and love are our two main connectors.  The connection is that truth is beauty, and beauty is truth.  The spirit of truth and personhood are the two forms of being.  Love is the ground of being.  Cosmology is a ménage a trois.  The is nothing that is impersonal.  

The logos, truth and beauty are the ground of being.  Then there is the mother and son.  


Recall the myth of Osiris......

I’m thinking that the myth of Osiris might need a bit of revision.  Osiris seems to me to be rather like the ground of being.  He is the god of the underworld.  


1:30.........

The mythical trinity is the Sun, Moon and Earth.......

We usually associate the Sun with the logos, and the Moon with the monad.  Earth is the mother of Creation.  

These three elements are the primary colors of mythology, and there can be a great deal of mixing and matching.  

The logos, for instance, is the original divider of the world, with its analytical power, but finally the logos brings everything together with the Metanarrative, if you will.  


smelly,

Existence is a bit a puzzle. I don’t mind nibbling around the edges. Few of us have the spare time. Otherwise, we just dive in. No problem.

You exercise more on the right side of your brain. I’m more of a lefty. As you point out, we’ll all end up in the same place, regardless. You just got there a lot quicker. I’m enjoying the scenery on the left side of the path. Don’t worry too much.



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Dan, won’t it be nice when you don’t have to guess anymore or ask anyone about life?

You can just know and live your own life.

Maybe guessing is more fun for you.

Maximize the funz.

Yes, Ack is a terrible salesman and I am a terrible wise man and Dan ain’t got no Truth.

This is the Losers Disclosure House of Fun.

That’s my new Muppet Disclosure initiative.

AP definitely can’t join.

Real muppets don’t wear masks.

Dan wrote:The Princess will, in some instances, acknowledge a connection with the queen bee of the Hive.  Should I doubt her word?  

Is the queen also the angel of death?  Well, she can sting.

I knew a Mensa/Prometheus member who said they were all about reducing the world population to 20% of it's then level, c. late 80's early 90's.

Gotta say I'm getting the same vibe from A&R.

The former and latter seemed to have lost the thread.

The last well be first and the first last. Lions and tigers and hive's oh my.

Anything interesting come out of last night's Rabbit Hole meeting with Grant?

These morons who talk of world depopulation....
Please step forward first into the gas chambers.

hobbit

Populate, depopulate, go with the flow. Carbon and oxygen, let the wind blow. By the Lake now there is a small pile of snow. The Chicken has warned it is near time to go.

We are just red dust.

Who cares what happens to dust?

Really, most of you all have completely missed the bouncing red ball.

But if anyone takes it on themselves to force things, you can take all of them muppets and leave me some plants.

I will clean up and turn the lights off.

Do I go with the flow......?

Much of the time I do.  But......

I anticipate a change of flow.  Is that cheating?  I’m suggesting that we slow the train down before we hit the curve.  Does that make me a spoil sport?  A party pooper?  I enjoy movies of train wrecks, but not so much when I’m on the train.  

I know someone who might be a signal person.  I’m trying to persuade them to cooperate.  Not that I believe in free will, but it’s hard not to blink.  

Footman - Please tell us how we can transcend through righteous mass, as you put it.

It doesn't believe anything is being forced other than the natural force of gravity itself.

Call it strong love.

Force would indicate that whoever is trying to force something has not gone through the final door yet themselves. It only feels a gentile invitation without attachment to any specific outcome from those who point the way. That assures it that the other side of the final door is safe and the new world is stable and the pod is prepared for transit.

This will be my last post. I feel confident now. I've settled all outstanding questions and attachments. After final transit I will no longer be moving between worlds. I see everything is now prepared and ready for me to take up permanent residency in Shangri-La.

Happy independence day!


Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
And stars fill my dream
I'm a traveler of both time and space
To be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race
This world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait
All will be revealed
Talk in song from tongues of lilting grace
Sounds caress my ear
And not a word I heard could I relate
The story was quite clear
Oh, baby, I been blind
Oh, yeah, mama, there ain't no denyin'
Oh, ooh yes, I been blind
Mama, mama, ain't no denyin', no denyin'
All I see turns to brown
As the sun burns the ground
And my eyes fill with sand
As I scan this wasted land
Try to find, try to find the way I feel
Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace
Like sorts inside a dream
Leave the path that led me to that place
Yellow desert stream
Like Shangri-la beneath the summer moon
I will return again
As the dust that floats finds you
We're moving through Kashmir
Oh, father of the four winds fill my sails
Cross the sea of years
With no provision but an open face
Along the straits of fear
Oh, when I want, when I'm on my way, yeah
And my feet wear my fickle way to stay
Ooh, yeah yeah, oh, yeah yeah,
But I'm down oh, yeah yeah, oh, yeah
Yeah, but I'm down, so down
Ooh, my baby, oh, my baby
Let me take you there
Come on, oh let me take you there
Let me take you there

-Kashmir, Led Zeppelin

You know Dan, the eschaton would be a whole lot more palatable if it didn't involve nuclear rapture.