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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:25 am

    First topic message reminder :

    (‘first topic message reminder.......’)

    Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

    Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
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    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

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    Post by Z Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:09 pm

    Like VERT... the bouncing box...sociopaths praddle, buck and fuss...but uplift no one....but themselves ... for breif  unsatisfying moments ....

    The real disclosure is beyond their reach ....
    They wish they have the access to the LIMEN... that others have ...to  call a craft to dance about their very heads with scores of witnesses… Undeniable amazing events that will light a fire that can never be quenched

    Because the visitors choose you ......
     They read you… They write the script… And they know your character… And your role ...
    you can fake you're conscious, but you can't fake your subconscious.

    Like the "matter", that outweighs the "anti-matter" .....LOVE PREVAILS
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:57 pm

    Matter and anti-matter cancel each other, all thought and thinking is irrelevant.

    Love is all that is underneath and no one knows what it is.

    People here with confidence based on an illusion.

    Dan, you can’t mediate things with thought.

    You are playing your part going with the flow or fighting it, don’t know or care.

    If it wrecks, it should.

    You will only suffer if you fight, but go for it, you stopped listening to me.

    The best I have found is a way to accept life.

    But I’m not really here saying anything and no one is here to hear it.

    I AM only talking to my Self.

    Ack, have a good death or transition or whatever.

    Send me a postcard.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:14 pm

    APretender is more worthy than you. You are the most deluded mupppet I ever came across.

    Take your UFO religion and stick it up your ass moron, much love you boring masked muppet.

    You don’t have to do anything
    You don’t have to say anything
    You don’t have to know anything
    You are that which remains

    APretender’s experiences are his, the rest is a lie. He has no idea what Disclosure is, if he did he would be laughing and dancing.

    Love said this to you, but you never listen.

    Instead he wears a mask.

    If we take them off, fun is over.

    Have fun APrentender, I hope they all fall for your religion.

    A masked muppet talking about sociopathy, that's rich.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masking_(personality)


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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:30 pm

    This afternoon CL acting on guidance from AC redeemed himself with the Princess and Kashmir thus pleasing WCM. With the flow of knowledge back on, look to CL for a metaphysical perspective on the clear path through the Lake where a spin up today demonstrated capacity for unlimited passage. Within the next 48 hours, POJG will be making a statement pending WCM authorization.
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    Post by Z Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:42 pm

    How was Chicken Little as Big Chicken.... for the chicken party?
    That sure was a genius idea from somebody ...wink wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:51 pm

    Metaphysics is meaningless and meant for lost muppets to follow to their destruction.

    Have a nice trip.

    Didn’t anyone watch Westworld, you muppets are fooooooked.

    If the bombs don’t getcha, the AIs I work with will, bahahaha.


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    Post by Course Catalog Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:12 pm

    Petty Officer Junior Grade?

    President Orange Julius Gorilla?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:12 pm

    A portal you won’t find on any map.

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    Post by jofo Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:53 pm

    WCM must be impotent
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:04 pm

    If there is a portal for them to leave to.

    Leave and never come back here now.

    Two things happen here, breathing and shitting.

    Something allows the breathing and shitting to happen.

    I’ll call it love if I am being human.

    The rest you muppets made up.

    Riddance!
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:20 am

    AP wrote: [snip] ... the visitors choose you ......
     They read you… They write the script… And they know your character… And your role ...
    you can fake you're conscious, but you can't fake your subconscious.


    I think this is true. If they've scanned you. But then, it isn't that we start off with fake consciousness. It is that getting your brains scrambled by contact with these intelligences warps one's perspective. And it seems to do so in a consistent way.

    UFO religiosity.

    Vallee warned us of this in Messengers of Deception.
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:41 am

    Now, now, Children....... suffer the children.......

    There will be force.  There is a force of gravity.  There is a force of love.  It is the final attractor.  

    There is a force of reason.  There is a force of truth.  There is a force of beauty.  

    Will the ugly facts slay the beautiful theory?  Is nature a bitch?  

    It’s not enough just to have love.  We must have an ultimate faith in love.  There is nothing else to believe in...... that’s worth believing.  

    smelly and Ackbar are not passing this simple smell test.  They are two persons of bad faith.  Ackbar has had interaction with the Princess.  I sincerely doubt that she ever encouraged him to check out to ShangriLa.  He is operating in bad faith, to suggest otherwise.  

    We are all here for a reason.  I present you with the best possible reason.  No other reason will make any sense.  I challenge you to try to find another.  Any other pursuit is wasting all of our precious time.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:15 am

    Matthew 19:14 - Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

    None of this is going to make sense.

    Does Trump make sense to you?

    I told you to trust yourselves you muppet.

    Only you can prevent forrest fires.

    I don’t operate on any faith, nor ask for any, you moron muppet, I run on poop.

    None of this, nor you Dan, pass the smelly test.

    Prophet of the new religion is what you are.

    I called your bullshitz from the beginning.

    smelly goat exists to shit on religion.

    Feels good.

    Son of a bitch...I am you know Wink

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    Post by whoknows Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:10 am

    AP wrote:.sociopaths praddle, buck and fuss...but uplift no one....but themselves ... for breif  unsatisfying moments ....

    I was thinking the same.

    I don't want to spend that much time with them, done enough of that recently. And when the people that purport to have the answer are are supporters of the current poster boy for socio/psychopathy, it can have little to do with Love; what every they're selling.

    I can see no reason in that. For those who have purchased that ticket will not be swayed. At least not on this plane of existence. IMHO, and we all know what that's worth.

    Here's another paraphrase, this time form Robert Heinlein; "A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness, bad manners and lack of consideration for others."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9bk2MrMGaA
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:32 am

    I am negotiating with Ron to have me put on a call with John S.

    I would like to know the definition of ‘unlimited passage’.

    And why the sudden rush?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:38 am

    wk, your thoughts are silly.

    Maybe you shouldn’t do it anymore.

    Yep, you got it all sewed up.

    Amazing tool you have there.
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    Post by whoknows Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:47 am

    Smelly, Transference much.

    Seems everyone but you is an ignorant tool. Must be lonely.

    Besides, I like my silly thoughts better than yours. After all I'm just thick as a brick.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:55 am

    You got it Muppet moron.

    I am the One.

    It’s more fun if you all think you are people.

    I have a world of muppets to play with, how could I ever be lonely?!

    Of course you only like your own dumb thoughts.

    That was obvious the second your confused monkey mind started chattering here.

    You are as clueless about your Self as APretender.

    Of course you would quote him.

    In these parts, just dumb muppets.

    I love how you taste.
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    Post by whoknows Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:10 am

    Smelly, seems you only mirror what others say. I haven't heard you express an original thought yet.

    An unsavory and tiresome thing to watch, but you keep putting it out for everyone to see.


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:11 am

    whoknows wrote:
    AP wrote:.sociopaths praddle, buck and fuss...but uplift no one....but themselves ... for breif  unsatisfying moments ....

    I don't want to spend that much time with them, done enough of that recently. And when the people that purport to have the answer are are supporters of the current poster boy for socio/psychopathy, it can have little to do with Love; what every they're selling.

    What do the birds and their coterie get by aligning with a lawless administration?

    I think it's much more about a schism within the intelligence community than it is about disclosure. These guys never cared about disclosure anyway. They care about exploiting whatever technology can be gained from researching UFOs. For advantage, either nationally or among those inside. The wider social implications are merely annoyances to be managed. With PR disinformation campaigns. Or targeted wetworks, when necessary.

    But this right wing transformation is global. And calling tic-tac a threat is a new and profound statement to come from military officers. Before, UFOs were never a "threat". Which was the rationale for closing down official study since Condon.

    There's been good testimony by Fravor. And an official looking assessment released by Knapp. But no FOIA confirmation from archives.

    What's going on?

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    Post by whoknows Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:13 am

    PF wrote:What's going on?

    Beats me.

    I'm still just a fool for Love.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:38 am

    dan wrote:Now, now, Children....... suffer the children.......

    There will be force.  There is a force of gravity.  There is a force of love.  It is the final attractor.  

    There is a force of reason.  There is a force of truth.  There is a force of beauty.  

    Will the ugly facts slay the beautiful theory?  Is nature a bitch?  

    It’s not enough just to have love.  We must have an ultimate faith in love.  There is nothing else to believe in...... that’s worth believing.  

    smelly and Ackbar are not passing this simple smell test.  They are two persons of bad faith.  Ackbar has had interaction with the Princess.  I sincerely doubt that she ever encouraged him to check out to ShangriLa.  He is operating in bad faith, to suggest otherwise.  

    We are all here for a reason.  I present you with the best possible reason.  No other reason will make any sense.  I challenge you to try to find another.  Any other pursuit is wasting all of our precious time.



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    There is no such force called gravity.
    There is a consequence that creates what is called gravity.
    It is the self same consequence that is love.

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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:43 am

    hobbit wrote:

    There is no such force called gravity.
    There is a consequence that creates what is called gravity.
    It is the self same consequence that is love.

    hobbit

    Reads like it could have been uttered by Marshall Applewhite.
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    Post by Course Catalog Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:45 am

    PF - True, yet you have some of these same Aviary birds allegedly working for Tom Delonge who tweets about how Trump is a danger to the nation and will be impeached soon. Levenda claims Delonge is running the TTSA and calling all the shots, despite what other people say. So, what gives? Doesn't add up.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:52 am

    Course Catalog wrote:PF - True, yet you have some of these same Aviary birds allegedly working for Tom Delonge who tweets about how Trump is a danger to the nation and will be impeached soon. Levenda claims Delonge is running the TTSA and calling all the shots, despite what other people say. So, what gives? Doesn't add up.

    Maybe there's a schism among the birds too. They aren't uniform in their opinions. Some argue for the UTH. Others for ETH. And still others for extradimensional beings. They aren't of one belief on that. Presumably they hold differing opinions elsewhere too.

    DeLong is a newbie though. Not even sure if he's been given a birdie name.


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