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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by NightTripper Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    dan wrote:
    I’m not interested in portals, if they’re just about saving some 1%.  

    WWJD.........?

    Jesus would say..... why have you forsaken us, Lord?  

    This is a game that I don’t recognize.  I did not sign up for this game.  There has been a mistake.

     cheers

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    Post by Sweet Release Wed May 30, 2018 10:25 am

    Sign wrote:hope you all get my drift.

    Yes.

    And my heart melts every time I look at your dog!
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    Post by dan Wed May 30, 2018 10:32 am

    Here’s how the Princess and I might agree to disagree........

    Humans are now at their high point.  Animals are at their low point.  In the Millennium we switch places, as we go from the Omega back to the Alpha.... we go from Megalopolises back to Megalithics.  

    Humans will experience this as Rapture back to the Source.  

    The Princess is basically representing Gaia/Mother Earth.  She’s come back and she’s p*ssed.  

    Naturally, she doesn’t want to trust humans with any portal secrets.  

    We have to negotiate safe passage through the Hive, back to the Source.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 30, 2018 10:45 am

    Karma is created by action.

    When ready, karma can be done away with.

    That’s IT.

    For you bleeding hearts...this too shall pass.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed May 30, 2018 10:48 am

    Rapture back to source could not happen unless there was a departure from source to begin with. Source is just the yin to the yang of material existence. Without material existence there could be no source to material existence and without source there could be no material existence. Rapture back to source will always be followed with another "big bang". The collapse of time and space is hidden within infinite time and space. They are inseparable. The boundary to the unknowable nothingness is the knowable something. Yin and Yang.

    Nothing and Possibility come in and out of bond infinite times in a finite moment.

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    Post by whoknows Wed May 30, 2018 10:56 am

    Hello all you Promethean titans of tautology. Love you all.

    Beginning to sound like white noise, shadows of the past. Seeing the shadows of what can be.

    If this is our best, sighs. time to open that third eye. Realize the potential of the wave you ride though it collapses behind. Are you living in the past?
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    Clouds dot a painted Sky
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    Post by whoknows Wed May 30, 2018 10:59 am



    Don't know why I'm playing your gobbledigook game.

    https://lyricstranslate.com/en/gobbledigook-gobbledigook.html-0#ixzz5H0OM8e6y

    You make hats fly into the air
    You turn umbrellas inside out too often
    Oh no, don't, oh

    You blow roofs out into the stormy sea
    You stroke hair and blow hems
    Prankster boy

    You (Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala lalalala)
    Wind in the hair - ooh ooh
    Wind in the hair - ooh ooh
    Wind in the hair - ooh ooh
    Wind in...
    (Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala)

    You blow sand in eyes, tears
    You throw gum in hair, stuck
    Prankster boy

    You (Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala lalalala)
    Wind in the hair - ooh ooh
    Wind in the hair - ooh ooh
    Wind in the hair - ooh ooh
    Wind in....
    (Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala)

    Lalala lai lalala : Lalala lai lalala
    Lalala lai lalala : Lalala lai lalala
    Lalala lai lalala : Lalala lai

    (Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala)
    (Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala)

    Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala lalalala
    Lalalala lalalala : Lalalala lalalala
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    Post by whoknows Wed May 30, 2018 11:06 am

    I know, I'll become, Van Whoknows, the later day hunter of those that suck the soul out of the living...

    You can always spot them in the way they think so highly of them selves.


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    https://lyricstranslate.com/en/hopppolla-hoppipolla.html#ixzz5H0QvfZVU

    Smiling
    Spinning round and round
    Holding hands
    The whole world a blur
    But you are standing

    Soaked
    Completely drenched
    No rubber boots
    Running inside us
    Want to erupt from a shell

    The Wind
    An outdoor smell of your hair
    I breathe as hard as I can
    with my nose

    Jump into puddles
    With no boots on
    Completely drenched(Soaked)
    With no boots on

    And I get a nosebleed
    But I always stand up
    (Hopelandish)

    And I get a nosebleed
    But I always stand up
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    Post by dan Wed May 30, 2018 11:15 am

    No, Ackbar.  

    This Earth is a Singular Creation, embedded in Eternity.  This is a closed timelike curve.  There is a single soul, experiencing life billions of times.


    WhoKnows.......

    Could you please practice some self restraint.........

    .


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    Post by hobbit Wed May 30, 2018 11:18 am

    Kosol sphere.

    Magnetic fields in different phases.

    This man has been attuning to who I have.

    http://www.americanantigravity.com/files/articles/Kosol-Interview.pdf

    Barium titanate.

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    dan wrote:No, Ackbar.  

    This Earth is a Singular Creation, embedded in Eternity.  This is a closed timelike curve.  There is a single soul, experiencing life billions of times.


    WhoKnows.......

    Could you please practice some self restraint.........

    .

    Sure,

    One last thought.

    None of us knows nearly enough to subjugate the will of the BPw/UH

    Been fun. hope I haven't been too offensive.

    I will always love you all.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 30, 2018 11:28 am

    Boy, we are a bunch of weirdos and loons.
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    Post by Sweet Release Wed May 30, 2018 11:28 am

    dan wrote:There is a single soul, experiencing life billions of times.

    As always, the inadequacies of language create lots of problems for us.

    I know what you mean, but one could interpret your words to be suggesting that any suffering animal or human 'asked for it', i.e. 'deserves it.'

    It's a fine line between enlightenment and madness.
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    Post by Sign Wed May 30, 2018 11:30 am

    That's why ( i ) we are here Smelly  Laughing
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    Post by Sweet Release Wed May 30, 2018 11:42 am

    smelly wrote:Boy, we are a bunch of weirdos and loons.

    Since GC posted his AP interview, we're probably a bunch of weirdos and loons that more people than usual are watching.

    What's the matter? Didn't you ever want to do it in public? Razz
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 30, 2018 12:09 pm

    I didn’t think anyone was really watching, best way to walk a high wire.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed May 30, 2018 12:12 pm

    If this earth is a singular creation within eternity then where did the creator of this singular creation come from in the first place? How did the creator split off from eternity, from source?

    Wait a second....maybe source is made up of billions of souls just as the earth is made up of billions of bodies/lives? Maybe one of those souls of source rebelled and decide to do his/her own thing and play God...play a hide and seek game with itself just for the hell of it?

    I don't see any other way to explain where the soul came from in the first place. How does the indivisible infinite become divided unless it is already divided into smaller parts to begin with?

    What happens after the rapture back to source? How do we know another split from source won't happen again? What is the point of flowing river of water if there is no garden for it to flow through? What is the point of a source of something if there is no thing to be a source unto? What is the point of the infinite without the finite? It seems there is no escaping yin and yang no matter how hard you try. Infinite and finite are one in the same. There is no escaping time and space.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 30, 2018 12:14 pm

    Retroversing the projected Ray is the only Way.

    Dropping concepts like ‘creator’ and ‘time’ is the start of wisdom.
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    Post by jofo Wed May 30, 2018 12:38 pm

    Sweet Release wrote:OK, so the problem I have with you guys saying this in the context of 'UFO disclosure' is that you probably wouldn't apply the same philosophy if somebody actually did knock on your physical front door, or your phone beeped with a message or you felt hungry etc.

    You would open the door, check the phone and get something to eat.

    You would respond to all these stimuli in a sane and NATURAL way, yet you are seemingly deflecting NATURAL curiosity towards UFO phenomena by implying we shouldn't pay attention to it.

    Did I miss the meeting where curiosity was declared an UNNATURAL act?

    The point is, this approach of sniffy, esoteric disdain and dismissiveness towards the UFO mystery is extremely useful for the Rons and the CIAs of this world who want ordinary people to keep their heads down and shut the fuck up.

    there's just nothing worth knowing related to UFOs, they aren't going to save you, only you can do that.

    by all means pay attention to it, try to understand it, but in the end, it will likely prove futile, a distraction, and ultimately play right into someones plan, not your own. that will be disclosure.

    if i told you that there existed a mystical thing behind a curtain right in front of you, you immediately want to pull that curtain back to reveal the wonder. the problem is you can't reach the curtain, your forever kept in the wanting to pull it away. but you can't ever reach it. that's the essence of the deception, the idea that something wondrous is right there for you to know, it keeps you wanting, keeps you pining away to know what is hidden. that is the entrapment system at work, to keep you from realizing your self, while you seek the "truth".
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    Post by Sweet Release Wed May 30, 2018 12:52 pm

    jofo wrote:
    Sweet Release wrote:OK, so the problem I have with you guys saying this in the context of 'UFO disclosure' is that you probably wouldn't apply the same philosophy if somebody actually did knock on your physical front door, or your phone beeped with a message or you felt hungry etc.

    You would open the door, check the phone and get something to eat.

    You would respond to all these stimuli in a sane and NATURAL way, yet you are seemingly deflecting NATURAL curiosity towards UFO phenomena by implying we shouldn't pay attention to it.

    Did I miss the meeting where curiosity was declared an UNNATURAL act?

    The point is, this approach of sniffy, esoteric disdain and dismissiveness towards the UFO mystery is extremely useful for the Rons and the CIAs of this world who want ordinary people to keep their heads down and shut the fuck up.

    there's just nothing worth knowing related to UFOs, they aren't going to save you, only you can do that.  

    by all means pay attention to it, try to understand it, but in the end, it will likely prove futile, a distraction, and ultimately play right into someones plan, not your own.  that will be disclosure.

    if i told you that there existed a mystical thing behind a curtain right in front of you, you immediately want to pull that curtain back to reveal the wonder.  the problem is you can't reach the curtain, your forever kept in the wanting to pull it away.  but you can't ever reach it.  that's the essence of the deception, the idea that something wondrous is right there for you to know, it keeps you wanting, keeps you pining away to know what is hidden.  that is the entrapment system at work, to keep you from realizing your self, while you seek the "truth".

    I don't agree.

    It's like we're all black people at a cocktail party and periodically white people are walking through the crowd mingling among us, but only 5% of people have literally seen them, while another 25% admit their probable presence.

    And the remaining 70% are in some sick-ass brainwashed trance with their eyes down denying the simple, self-evident truth that white people are also at the party.

    It's not about the novelty or excitement of 'aliens'.

    It's about getting everybody to a base level of reality so that most of humanity don't remain wilful prisoners in their conditioned idiocy.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 30, 2018 12:57 pm

    That’s obviously why you are here Sweet...to get straightened it Wink
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed May 30, 2018 1:05 pm

    I'm in no hurry to rush back to source because a sense of urgency is a sense of uncertainty and uncertainty is the opposite energy of source energy. I think the surest and safest way back to source is by becoming fully centered, present, and still. Then peace and tranquility will replace fleeting pleasures.

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    Post by jofo Wed May 30, 2018 3:55 pm

    Sweet Release wrote:
    jofo wrote:
    Sweet Release wrote:OK, so the problem I have with you guys saying this in the context of 'UFO disclosure' is that you probably wouldn't apply the same philosophy if somebody actually did knock on your physical front door, or your phone beeped with a message or you felt hungry etc.

    You would open the door, check the phone and get something to eat.

    You would respond to all these stimuli in a sane and NATURAL way, yet you are seemingly deflecting NATURAL curiosity towards UFO phenomena by implying we shouldn't pay attention to it.

    Did I miss the meeting where curiosity was declared an UNNATURAL act?

    The point is, this approach of sniffy, esoteric disdain and dismissiveness towards the UFO mystery is extremely useful for the Rons and the CIAs of this world who want ordinary people to keep their heads down and shut the fuck up.

    there's just nothing worth knowing related to UFOs, they aren't going to save you, only you can do that.  

    by all means pay attention to it, try to understand it, but in the end, it will likely prove futile, a distraction, and ultimately play right into someones plan, not your own.  that will be disclosure.

    if i told you that there existed a mystical thing behind a curtain right in front of you, you immediately want to pull that curtain back to reveal the wonder.  the problem is you can't reach the curtain, your forever kept in the wanting to pull it away.  but you can't ever reach it.  that's the essence of the deception, the idea that something wondrous is right there for you to know, it keeps you wanting, keeps you pining away to know what is hidden.  that is the entrapment system at work, to keep you from realizing your self, while you seek the "truth".

    I don't agree.

    It's like we're all black people at a cocktail party and periodically white people are walking through the crowd mingling among us, but only 5% of people have literally seen them, while another 25% admit their probable presence.

    And the remaining 70% are in some sick-ass brainwashed trance with their eyes down denying the simple, self-evident truth that white people are also at the party.

    It's not about the novelty or excitement of 'aliens'.

    It's about getting everybody to a base level of reality so that most of humanity don't remain wilful prisoners in their conditioned idiocy.

    that can only ever happen if there is a shared experience by many or everyone. talking about it will never result in that, and only possible if the 'aliens' choose to make it so. until then it is a waste of energetic thought. there is no reality for everyone to base into, there is just what people think

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