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Post by NightTripper Tue May 15, 2018 3:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

dan wrote:
I’m not interested in portals, if they’re just about saving some 1%.  

WWJD.........?

Jesus would say..... why have you forsaken us, Lord?  

This is a game that I don’t recognize.  I did not sign up for this game.  There has been a mistake.

 cheers

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Post by GrandCru Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:27 pm

I'm no asshole, but I proudly claim to be a douchebag. The details are subjective, but I consider it a high honor.

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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:34 pm

Ha, assholes are fun, you can always get a gas out of them, bahahaha.

Dan, thanks for the therapy session.

We all have our shit to deal with, but that’s a door my Mother has closed sadly.

Apparently my mother says I’m the devil headed to hell.

I agreed with her and tried to explain to her how great Hell can be and that I probably worked for the Devil, she didn’t laugh Wink

She’s precious waiting for the Apocalypse any day now for the last 30 years, maybe you can talk to her and mediate for us, but you know how difficult I AM. I won’t be able to stop poking Wink

And Dan, I love my life as revealed to me now.

The past is the past man, we are here now, always now.

SR cannot currently commune with the smelly goat sadly. Where one embraces you, another curses you and around we spin on Earth.

For the record Dan, I think you are the looniest chicken on Earth. I could not even begin to unravel that knot.

Tell SR the meaning of life please.

He wants evidence.
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Post by painterdoug Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:51 pm

the open minds poetry group?
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Post by jofo Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:56 pm

there is no ufo 'mystery' to investigate, don't be distracted

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Post by jofo Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:00 pm

dan, what are the chances of you getting some covert audio + video from your upcoming soiree at the lake?
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Post by BewilderedBird Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:37 pm

Bahaha jofo, right, what are these distracted muppets all on about Wink

They all want that secret probing...especially SR!
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:40 pm

Sweet Release.

The SR being referring to by Dan was Fr. SR (Father Seraphim Rose), as I posted a link from an audio book by him above.

However, when it comes to the issues you raise; I agree that there is all sorts of kool aid being handed out here - and indeed the poetry can seem like an obnoxious distraction at times (I’m sure it is at some level) - however, I have come to the conclusion that the worldview issues being prodded at here are the most pressing issues of “the phenomenon.”  It is certainly interesting that the nomenclature “the phenomenon” has arisen in discussing events which are anomalous to the predominate modernist/naturalist/materialist worldview.  If you know anything about the philosophical developments that got us into the modern world, then you know that Immanuel Kant’s “noumenal/phenomenal” distinction is central to the tidy (and yet shallow) philosophy which the world is divided into facts vs. opinions/reason vs. feelings/science vs faith/church vs state.  The “phenomenon,” according to this view, shouldn’t be a “phenomenon” at all - it belongs in the realm of the “noumena,” or in the realm of faith/wishful thinking/feelings - therefore, it’s appearance as a demonstrable phenomena cracks the very foundation of the modernist worldview.  The thing is, once this realization goes viral in popular culture, the individual data points of “disclosure” will become irrelevant.  The bigger questions of worldview, or of what is “real,” will gnaw at the mass consciousness and become potentially dangerous if another more satisfying foundation does not become apparent.


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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:15 pm

Dan,

I do not think that Fr. SR is advocating “blind faith.”  I feel that label is often used as a pejorative for “faith” in any meaningful sense of the world.  Instead, I interpret SR to be referring to the “presuppositionalism” that we have touched on previously.  

I don’t think “blind faith” is what he would call it, or what we should call it.  It is more like a “seeing faith” (or a claim to such an epistemological reality).  As King David says, “In your light, we see light.”  (Psalm 36:9).  Or as CS Lewis once wrote, “I believe in the sun, not so much because I see it, but because by its light I see everything else.”  Faith in God functions in the same way.  The Philosopher Alvin Plantinga has spoken of this in his defense of “basic beliefs,” and has earned the respect of his secular colleagues.  

I disagree that the truth can be found “within.”  We can certainly perceive the truth within, as we are knowing subjects; but for truth to be Truth, it must be objective.  You are a Jesus freak, I’m a Bible freak, maybe we can find some common ground eventually.  But I believe the Book when it says that this whole mess began when we sought the truth “within.”  “Ye Shall be as gods, knowing good and evil…” (Gen. 3:5)

I reject monism for Trinitarianism, though if I had to choose between monism and pluralism, I would go for monism.  The Trinity informs me that the One and the Many are equally ultimate, however this is grounded not in a created one-and-many; but in the eternal one-and-many.  Relationships - or a turning to the other as an actual other, and finding union/communion in the other - are a fundamental aspect of reality.  Therefore, a self-dependant “turning within” is a turning from reality.  

Epistemology is rooted in ontology.  The Trinity is an "other" related ontological absolute.

“Each Person of the one God, having His being in the Others, is therefore wholly selfless, possessing the quality of spontaneity, self-emptying or self-forgetting (“nothingness”) that Lao Tzu intuited in the Tao.  Each Person (Each “I”) forgets Himself before the Others, emptying Himself in perfect love, and in this ineffable love lies the secret of God’s oneness.” - Heiromonk Damascene, “Christ the Eternal Tao,” pg. 251-52

“No sooner do I conceive of the One that I am illumined by the splendor of the Three; no sooner do I distinguish Them that I am carried back to the One.  When I think of any One of the Three, I think of Him as the whole, and my eyes are filled, and the greater part of what I am thinking escapes me [...] When I contemplate the Three together, I see but one torch, and cannot divide of measure out the undivided light.” - St. Gregory of Nanzianzen
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Post by BewilderedBird Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:12 am

Religious nonsense.

Christ Smite
Trinity Biminy

The Bible, oh brother.

Objective reality, prove it, bahahaha, never will you, I’d love to see you try.

Delusional.

Afterlife, haha, boy, are you going to be surprised, ha, no you won’t!

I poop on all dem bitches.

Ideas...thoughts...concepts...delusional UFO nutz.

Don’t come here for Disclosure, oh no Wink

I used to think and talk like dd.

But I was muuuuuch better than him.

Amateurz....sigh.

Regurgitated shit.

Not original at all.

Not a poetic lick of flame between the two of you.

No longer.

Dropped all that bullshitz.

Now I write bad obnoxious poetry.

And talk to muppets.

Ack’s is the worst though!

dd is right, the poetry is a code.

There is something very amazing happening here.

SR, you are a reeeaaaalll moron.

A muppet to the end probably.

You all can lick my horns.

I will get you all in the end.

Every last morsel of you.

Thanks for the scoobie snacks.

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Post by Sign Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:19 am

SR wrote:But any time the UFO or alien issue is mentioned, the schizophrenic company response is: "Don't worry about that - look within."

Totally agree SR

PainterDoug wrote:the open minds poetry group?

I bloody hope Not   Very Happy

Jofo wrote:there is no ufo 'mystery' to investigate, don't be distracted

Very sorry Jofo but totally Disagree

Smelly wrote:Religious nonsense.

Totally agree.. Way Too much religious nonsense


Sorry i missed the Convo's last night


kind regards

Sign   Beem Me Up Scotty Please


Ps. its a good Job we are not all the in the same frame of mind .. The world would be a boring place. Unless we are all talking about the UFO cover up...    


Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy


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Post by hobbit Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:05 am

There was a young man with such a big belly,
He couldn't see his feet were on fire,
His thoughts are so inspired,
It's a shame everyone just calls Him smelly.

He looks like an oblate spheroid,
If I had swallowed dictionaries like Dan,
I could rhyme with that spherical word,
I can I,m sure, but it's late.


On My way to watch England,
Red cross on white back ground flags will abound,
Polarity bisected by equator,
Just as You form an oblate spheroid.


In/out is Yin/yang,
If there's too much coming in,
Then it needs a route out.
Volcanoes then become smelly, and the ground sets Your toes on fire.




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Post by Sign Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:05 am




F**K me Smelly l listened to your first "Charles Bukowski" video and i even liked. it ..

You MAY one day Convert me Laughing


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Post by Sign Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:24 am

Dan

I think i have a serious  and genuine question for you


You may have guested by now I'm not a believer in God.  That's my loss I guess

Anyway my question is..

We all know some people have said God has spoken to them and given them messages. ..

How do we not know its not our VISITOR's taping into
their consenseness and misinterpreted the word of the Visitor for the word of God.


this may have been asked and answered before if so . please tell me to shut up.

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Post by BewilderedBird Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:53 am

Thanks hobbit, sometimes it gets lonely, but I have the Cosmos and hairy footed hobbits and chickens as friends, how could I be lonely?

I don’t respect belief or believers or the Bible or gods.

I’m anti-matter to such muppet concepts.

If I come near you, I’ll bash you in the head.

Best thing for you really.

Take all the shots you want at Awareness, it’s a comedy to see you do so, like arguing water for fish doesn’t exist.

We can wait for you forever.

I’ll give it right back to you nasty Aholez.

Who knows when a goat will hit you over the head again.

I promise you will remember it.

And I’m posting all my bad poetry dedicated to SR, once a day muppet.

Blame him.
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Post by painterdoug Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:02 am

SIGN/

PainterDoug wrote:
the open minds poetry group?

I bloody hope Not Very Happy

AGREED / I BLODDY HOPE NOT WAS MY POINT
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am

Smelly Goat,

Never claimed to be able to prove objective reality.  That is why a revelational epistemology is necessary.  We need revelation from absolute reality Himself, in order to have any foundation for certainty.  

Believe it or not, the burden of proof to "prove objective reality," is one that you actually carry.  Denying Truth is a claim of Truth.  Denying "objective reality," while claiming that all is "subjective," is (ironically) an objective claim about reality.  And it's all being claimed by you, a finite smelly goat, with an infinitely limited experience.  

If you don't know what "presuppositionalism" is, the one and the many problem (beyond a second semester understanding), or who Alvin Plantinga is; that's okay, I still like you Smelly.  But drive over to any University in the Bay Area there, talk to an unbeliever philosophy professor, and I'm sure he will call you shallow if you claim to have an informed comment on "belief" and yet haven't read Plantinga.

"Religious Nonsense..."

I would get a more satisfying interaction from Bill Maher on HBO.  And that's not saying much.  See what I mean:
http://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/3

Sign,

You said:
//We all know some people have said God has spoken to them and given them messages. ..

How do we not know its not our VISITOR's taping into
their consenseness and misinterpreted the word of the Visitor for the word of God.//

I agree.  Let's discuss.
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Post by BewilderedBird Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:37 am

For SR...a smelly original.

A Spring Ode

You awaken as a child on the wheel of life, which leads to the world tree and the center of the Labyrinth.

Today, the Earth is reborn and I can see it out my window.

The trees leaf as ice crystals form and lightening cracks in the air.

The Flowers sing in their pots filled with reminding.

The weeds seek to steal the light and water.

And the birds come and go freely, enjoying a drink or a meal.

One can learn the cycles of life if they stop and listen and watch.

We are invited to participate even.

So however you celebrate it, through whatever filter you like, life and it’s promise is renewed today in time, rejoice!
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Post by whoknows Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:04 am

Self restraint I heard someone say.

All the while the pejoratives flies like missiles.

The sewage from the mouth flows, all the while calling it roses.



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Post by PerplexedPuppy Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:05 pm

A special printer can be fun
Extruding magic things
A mini portal to reflect
The visitor with wings

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Post by isaackoi Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:15 pm

Ackbar wrote:
The Rabbit has lost track of time. The Scribe keeps moving like a mime.

Showing what cannot be seen, he plants a little magic bean.

The Princess is a fan of "Alice in Wonderland" - as are some others here (including me). Given that, and all of our discussion of portals (and now magic beans...), I thought I'd post a screenshot of the Mad Hatter in the "Once Upon a Time" television series starting to open a portal to another realm using his hat. (Series 1, Episode 17).

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Now, I wonder who is the Mad Hatter in our ufological discussions - or whether there is more than one Mad Hatter here???
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Whoknows are you familiar with the phenomenon of gnosis?
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Post by Cuan Scott Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:00 pm

mion wrote:

Classic Mion Very Happy Many thanks

Maybe the story of the Good the Bad and The Ugly is somehow symbolic of where we are all are.. we are seeking the answers (Treasure) which we think is buried in the 'Arch Stanton' Grave, perhaps we are mistaken..
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