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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:40 pm

    And then there is Black Elk who is on his own level in the center, a great friend.

    I meet all my friends around the hearthfire, that’s where you find the good teachers.

    They are always laughing and joyful.


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    Post by painterdoug Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:41 pm

    Ok One more art post and   MARK IT WELL  !     as Ahab said to Starbuck

    after two years in progress I have finally reached my goal of 100 portraits of Whistleblower and informers .  The series called, "Those who blew the Whistle" , but footman may convince me to change the name to loons crooks or worse! lol

    well here they are laid out on the floor for the first time .  ok back to our regular scheduled program.Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2 - Page 11 100_hi12
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:45 pm

    smelly wrote:Your friends will leave you.
    Your wife may also.
    Probably gonna lose your job.
    You could lose all in your life now you are comfortable with if you go down the path of knowing thyself.

    The ego doesn’t want this, it asks, WTF are you doing man?! Life is grand.

    But you can ask yourself, are you free in the moment, with no fear or hope?

    No, then let the emptying begin and see who you authentically are.

    Don’t read about being a good man, which is to be a Human Being.

    Just be one.

    In the heart, you know what to do, in your head, you are at the mercy of appearances.

    All awakening is to me is knowing your condition minus the conditioning and all other’s definitions of who you are and should be and to accept that.

    You can go furtherz...

    You can wake up every day and remind yourself it’s a goft and your open to know yourself today.

    And when you can accept your fate, you are donez.

    Can you reach this state before you croak?

    You can live here right now if you wanted toz.

    How long do you think you have?

    “You will receive everything you need when you stop asking for what you do not need.”

    — Nisargadatta

    Well, I will admit, over the past year or so as I have started to reach this higher state, and especially over the past few weeks, a lot has started to change already.

    My wife did already start dropping the 'd' word as I stopped fearing her reaction to me being my true authentic self.

    Also, I'm already on the path to loose my job eventually if I continue spending all my waking hours as I have been, seeking more and more being in the now and searching for omens and syncronicites, rather than writing code.

    The biggest thing I fear is not loosing my wife, but loosing my ability to provide for my young daughter's material needs, maybe I could learn to make use of my ego when needed for material existence until at some point after my kids are grown up I can just let it all go.

    You see, OSHO speaks of a balance or a back and forth between the two that to me seems to make a lot of sense. After all, If I decided to to do the Ekhart Tolle thing and go live in a park homeless for a few years then what would I have left to come back to once my well was full? There is this natural desire to share that love with another person or people once it is obtained by going within, and if I have removed myself from the system to reach that state then it makes it harder to come back into that system once I feel the desire to reconnect and give back to the system.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:48 pm

    smelly wrote:And then there is Black Elk who is on his own level in the center, a great friend.

    I meet all my friends around the hearthfire, that’s where you find the good teachers.

    They are always laughing and joyful.

    There is a hearthfire at the center of Orion. A nebula of rebirth.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:51 pm

    painterdoug wrote: smelly

    Seneca would recommend finding a few tried and true proven thinkers. and re visit throughout life, rather than going from flower to flower gaining little of substance  

    Seneca
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    Osho
    Course in Miracles  



    Good advice I think.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:57 pm

    Right on Ackbar, straight on then.

    You have led yourself if you see it.

    I’m a coder too.

    I was working at Amazon and I quit to embrace my awakening 2 years ago.

    The process can be sudden or around two years.

    Then the next job I got was because of a synchronicity.

    There is a time you cut the string, then the universe comes to support you.

    You don’t have to really worry about anything man.

    Follow the threads.

    Work will magically work, but you need to be virtuous, honest with them.

    Buddha was Buddha because he went all the way, Eckart, OSHO, all the way.

    I’m never going to stop while I breathe and I’ll have my impact, as will you.

    Stoicism and Zen can help with virtue.

    Religion can be your thing too, but be non-dual about it, but that path to me is harder.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:08 pm

    Thanks for the advice and sweet reflection smelly.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:32 pm

    doug some digital art I did a couple years ago while studying Pandora.

    It was a jar originally.

    I made this after my Shamanic awakening. It’s a collage of images and I colored them.

    I’m the owl.

    Love your work.

    Dan had mentioned Pandora and I remembered I had done this one.

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    Dan, this was some portal work I experimented with and had good results, my current person the evidence.

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    Ackbar, I also recommend making art when it rises and to explore using it and creating it with your hands. I work with clay and ceramics and woodwork also for meditation. I draw also. The skillz get better the more you make.

    I made a lot of memes to explore the ideas visually and with color.

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    And I have strong connections to the Mother of Ganga. Everything has dual effects. Drugs don’t make you enlightened, because there is no such thing. You connecting to the force is what does that. It’s a seething lifeforce, The Goddess.

    The 2nd coming of Christ is the return of the literal anointing, I think I found it, which will bring about a Messianic Age and it is glorious. I don’t talk of Jesus, because he is lost mostly to history, but I have met Christ.

    One who knows themselves is fearless...absofuckinglutely fearless and incorruptible. Who is Christ then, but literally us here now participating and using the sacraments between birth and death. Magic works this way.

    Life is magic.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:59 pm

    I’ll post art there.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:43 am

    We are trying to establish a steady pace of disclosure.  To do that we need to keep shaking the trees and kicking the tires.  We need to keep as many disclosure balls in the air at once.  It’s hard to keep track of them all.  New balls keep coming into play.  

    Recall that this current phase started, for me, ‘way back’ in January of 2015, with the talk of vectors.  Then the notion of portals was introduced in July of 2016.  In January of ‘17, came the personal connection.  A year later, this initiative comes to the Lake and then on to the Grove.  In effect, we have a competition between the the aquarium and the aviary, redivivus.  

    There is, of course, an mj12-type group lurking.  There are several
    PR initiatives, which we also wish to keep in balance.  We have, mainly Chris, Kevin and Maureen.  It’s bi-coastal plus North Carolina.  The nyt, having (deliberately) gotten its fingers burned, is choose to remain in the background, for the nonce.  The wh is also remaining  very discreet.  

    The strategy on my play sheet is that, very gingerly, we are nudging open Pandora’s box.  We use a screw driver to pry open all the sides, gradually, making sure that nothing pops.  We’re relieving the steam pressure, as deliberately as possible.  

    Understand that this whole process is self regulating.  All we’re doing is providing a bit of oversight and insight for interested individuals and parties...... just watching the river flow along.  Keeping it all as boring as possible.  Yes?

    There is, of course, OMF. I like to think that we do provide a bird’s eye view. No, it’s certainly not as detailed or comprehensive as the view from mj12. But we do our part. And attempt we provide a philosophical perspective.




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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:34 am

    Speaking of aquarium and aviary...

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    They can love each other, but can they live with each other?

    Maybe if the birds get some scuba gear.

    Competition can be a good thing sometimes

    Is this the good kind or the bad kind?

    Either way, "Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's coming 'round to put it back the way it ought to be" - MJ11, 'Aenema'
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:56 am

    Ackbar,

    I understand that the competition is not always friendly.  There has been history of friction between Hal and Joe, with lockouts and threatened lawsuits, etc.  

    There are elements of scientology v. the church at the lake.  Sometimes it’s diplomacy by ‘other means’.  So much for our ‘institutional’ involvement.  Rome is not to be left behind.  They are keeping tabs on the N.C. group.  

    At night, though, we all sleep under the same tent.  The ‘twelver’ group presumably keeps things in hand.  We’re fortunate in that Foot does, allegedly, have enhanced access there.  The aviary’s access would then be less direct.  There may even be a continuation of the army/navy rivalry, which sometimes gets heated.  Presumably the navy is in deep.  

    The tactic that seems to be in play presently is to use joe’s cage as a physical prop for enhancing/focusing a more traditional form of personal magic.  The sorcery is kept behind the scenes.  The audience is more comfortable that way.  The experimenter/audience effect is part of the ‘mechanism’. Every gadget operates the same way, magically, in immaterialism, we just don’t see behind the veil. Alchemy comes before chemistry. But the division between the mechanics and magic will begin to break down, as the veil wears thinner. That’s what’s happening at the Lake.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:39 am

    So Dan, you are saying what’s happening in these small local portals is a test run for the field that will dissolve the veil between 3D and whatever dimension magic initiates from all over Earth?
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    Post by NordicWonder Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:00 pm

    dan wrote:Presumably the navy is in deep.
    Boy is that an understatement.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:12 pm

    Dan,

    I'm very curious about the elements of scientology v. the church at the lake.

    Are you talking about a political competition, a philosophical one, or both?

    Also, as far as I can tell, J isn't exactly what you might call a strict Mormon, I'm not sure, but I don't even think he would call himself one. I haven't spoken to him in depth about it so don't quote me on that. It may be the foundation of a lot of what he believes, but I would venture to speculate that if he were to get up in front of the congregation on Sunday and extrapolate on all of what he believes that he would likely be having a nice sit down chat with his bishop shortly afterwards.

    The same would go for me too though if I were to get up in church and preach what I believe, and I'm guessing the same would go for many Christians here on OMF.

    I'm just saying he might not be the best person to represent the church by the lake in it's strictest form, but you probably already know that.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 pm

    Dan,

    Are those who are pushing for disclosing the magic without revealing it's operation behind the veil doing so because they are unaware of what is really going on or because they don't want the world to know?

    Knowledge is power and power to the people means loss of control to the few perhaps?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:32 pm

    Any chance I get, I like to say...

    Kindness is greater than knowledge and wisdom Wink

    Imagine what can be done with a kind gentle heart.

    I’m practicing.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:07 pm

    smelly,

    Yes, it is mainly just a question of how this dimension of experience is to be brought into the mainstream. It is being worked on many fronts, but mostly it is spontaneous, as you well know. There is a minimal degree of deliberate coordination.

    Some of this coordination effort may in support of the BPWH. I’m hoping so.

    If there is a coherent vision that encompasses the phenomena, it would be important to have this vision readily available to those who wish to be apprised of a larger picture.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:21 pm

    Understood, always at your service, prickly or gentle.

    Life is good dude, I am grateful and there is abundance.

    Even as the world dissolves, it doesn’t change here where I live now, at home it just gets deeper.

    I have always felt you and I were always saying the same thing.

    I had the equation spontaneously and you have the proof Wink

    I mean, that’s kinda beautiful and in-line with my experience.

    I was reading this weird book the birds brought me.

    It’s channeled rubbish mostly, I channel myself what I need, but maybe it connects here.

    I don’t know.

    It has a detail about what you talk about and Cy, maybe you guys work together?

    I don’t care.

    https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Secret-Flower-Life-Vol/dp/1891824171/ref=nodl_

    He’s harmless enough and a cracked pot like me, take what resonates I guess if anyone is interested.

    Dan, you know I abide in myself and I have nothing to prove.

    I have but to remove the mask and something magical happens.

    It’s a fun trick of the Light and the Shadow, I am both.

    The universe tells me to be kind and gentle and so I am.

    Until something else takes over. Like someone pissed in a way that can make your head melt tossing superimposed ideas in your head.

    Happy melting.
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    Post by Cyrellys Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:37 pm

    NordicWonder wrote:
    dan wrote:Presumably the navy is in deep.
    Boy is that an understatement.


    Navy is top of the command & planning totem pole wrt the military's involvment

    Army is base security and interconnect with the general population

    AirForce is focused on contact and interaction landscapes

    Marines protect POTUS and handle what few others can.

    Who here knows the roles of Delta Force?


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:39 pm

    I have an idea for disclosure

    Make the following courses required in school:

    * Quantum mechanics/physics

    * Remote viewing

    * Lucid dreaming and astral projection

    * Syncronicity

    * A course that watches and discusses movies like these: Alice in Wonderland, Inception, Vanilla Sky, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Waking Life, Matrix. Better yet, make the students watch these movies using Oculus Rifts.

    * Wrap it up with a Vipassanā course with lots of meditation practice to bring it all together

    * Also, make sure the schools put lots of OSHO, Rumi, Jesus, Tolle, and other related quotes all over the school

    * Finally, throw in a field trip to the desert at night for a Stephen Greer type CE-5 experiment just for good measure

    I suppose even such a drastic change in curriculum still might not be enough. It would at least get the world to know more about the nature of reality, but to understand it, now that is a whole different thing, one that is personal and comes only when one is ready.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:59 pm

    Speaking of Astral Projection, I once had an astral projection where after leaving my body I flew out to space and looked back at the earth. I was far enough into space that the earth was about the size of an orange. When I reached out my hand I could touch it and hold it, but yet I could also fly back down towards it and it would became large again.

    An earth the size of an orange, now that is a small earth. One that exists as nothing but the observation of a perception, that's even smaller.
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    Post by NordicWonder Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:05 pm

    Cy, I was referring specifically to the Navy SSP, just FYI.
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    Dan, don't worry I won't hurt you, I only want you to have some fun. Excuse the video version but it's the only one that exists-
    https://youtu.be/-AmgZo6breQ

    I was dreaming when I wrote this, forgive me if it goes astray.

    I know both the heads of Scientology and the Mormon Church. So jump in the river and learn to swim-
    https://youtu.be/RVXjBMK3EkI

    Hal & Joe are great warriors in Ron & Kit's grand game. A mysterious dialect designed for revealing a primordial mystery.

    But the only people who actually work for President Trump in this group are Ron Pandolfi and Rick Dearbon, Deputy Chief of Staff at the White House.

    It it COSMIC spatial intelligence monitoring the Cosmic Club and the Cosmos Club. With Director Pillsbury and General Secretary Wolcott in the background pondering the subtle perplexing mystery of the cosmic bohème.

    Ron is simply a clever cypherpoet building drones for the CIA, working in the Office of Scientific & Weapons Research (OSWR) while defending against techno scams and deep state exotic conspiracies.  His official designation is to serve as a dark flow attractor and an occasional JASON "Illuminati scientist" to quantify the risk of foreign technology threats.

    Like in all great mysteries, the real mastermind is elsewhere.

    The only conspiracy is intento sistémico oculto and the only secret is amor fati.

    Some claim there is no Free Will. Some say it's all Predestination-
    https://youtu.be/ayAt1BZmJH0

    There are no aliens but we should tell all the zombies to hide their faces-
    https://youtu.be/2LE0KpcP05I

    There is something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear-
    https://youtu.be/41bATeSKROM

    I'm not here to shed light, I'm here to cast shadows. My crew is nocturnal. At midnight we cypher inside a crop circle. The sinister scientist, diminished your minor scripts. I dwell in dark slums, speak in space age tongues, your lives are all lies, you can't stop my rise, appeared out the shadows with a mic, a woe enforcer, arrived in a fallen saucer, in a black mask I appear, sinister, dark art form...
    https://youtu.be/Dbwa090OCz8

    Peace in the world, it is exploding-
    https://youtu.be/0-ykagTGx0c

    Take me with you when you go-
    https://youtu.be/RVFSQyH_rl8

    I don't know if that does you any good but there's something out there-
    https://youtu.be/dRcHTdWY5lU

    Been here forever inside-
    https://youtu.be/pidY7FgPiVk

    The cosmic bohème-
    https://youtu.be/uf9WLPZK2AU

    We got forever-
    https://youtu.be/NbbLiEgud5A

    But if you know what life is worth-
    https://youtu.be/cHS26rjraVU

    I'm like a satellite forever orbiting-
    https://youtu.be/e5UWCToOvwQ

    We belong to the thunder-
    https://youtu.be/qxZInIyOBXk

    First when then there's nothing but a slow growing dream-
    https://youtu.be/ILWSp0m9G2U

    I kept dreaming of a world I thought I'd never see-
    https://youtu.be/-UOTLTgDH44

    https://youtu.be/xxi7YmS1Iuk

    Imagine
    https://youtu.be/-aKp2ornwj8

    I can't spend another life, spend another time, I know you're not real in this dimension-
    https://youtu.be/NuscdhNUhiY

    *

    Quantum Gravity Research
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUyk0KLo7JPLCCh4oRNLzsQ

    Director Brennan on UFOs (1/22/18)-
    http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/15617/ex-cia-chief-keep-studying-ufos/

    Director Brennan, Ron and Kit-
    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/97unclass/ufo.html

    Official Disclosure by Kit (2017)-
    https://m.soundcloud.com/project333/connectivities-that-you-get-for-the-acquisition-of-information-includes-the-others/s-50shL

    Contract CIA Work into Secret Supernormal Phenomenon (2017) with Kit Green, Garry Nolan, Hal Puthoff, Uri Geller and Yossi Cohen-
    https://soundcloud.com/project333/private/s-sb43t

    The CEO of the cosmic bohème-
    https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/65bzxr/xxyyxx-says-hes-head-of-the-illuminati

    A message from President Obama (2009): "together ordinary people can do extraordinary things."
    https://youtu.be/O7JwvLDsbIU

    ***

    The 32 vectors or vertices-
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-cube

    Ask them for the Departure of the Argonaut.

    Bavarian Illuminati
    1776-2018

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