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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Rooster's Crow Confusion
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~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
PREPARED FATHER WALKS TWO HOURS TO HELP DAUGHTER GET HOME SAFELY-DAUGHTER LEARNS HER PREPAREDNESS MINDED DAD KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT!
Steve,
Ice storm in Birmigham AL area hit by surprise yesterday. Announcements
from schools went out at 11AM that they were sending kids home but it was
too late. Buses couldn't run. Hills everywhere around here started
accumulating ice. Crashed cars and trucks everywhere and in ditches near
every hill and some in streams. I walked 2 hours to pick up daughter at the
high school. I got there faster walking then many did sitting stuck in
traffic. She has a 4x4 truck and we were able to help others get home. Many
stuck in schools, stores, churches, and in cars. Surprised at the number of
folks who don't travel with coats. Many walking without them back home even
in high heels in 17 degrees. Daughter now understands why I fuss to always
keep the gas tank full and keep blankets and more in the car. Deep freeze
to continue until tomorrow.
Jan 29, 2014
Steve,
Ice storm in Birmigham AL area hit by surprise yesterday. Announcements
from schools went out at 11AM that they were sending kids home but it was
too late. Buses couldn't run. Hills everywhere around here started
accumulating ice. Crashed cars and trucks everywhere and in ditches near
every hill and some in streams. I walked 2 hours to pick up daughter at the
high school. I got there faster walking then many did sitting stuck in
traffic. She has a 4x4 truck and we were able to help others get home. Many
stuck in schools, stores, churches, and in cars. Surprised at the number of
folks who don't travel with coats. Many walking without them back home even
in high heels in 17 degrees. Daughter now understands why I fuss to always
keep the gas tank full and keep blankets and more in the car. Deep freeze
to continue until tomorrow.
Jan 29, 2014
My wife who scoffs at prepping, saw the light. Once she got home (after 13 hours to drive 20 miles), she hugged me and said 'you were right all along'. I want a gun.
Steve,
I live in West Georgia, about 40 miles from Atlanta. The surprise storm
caught everyone off guard, and driving became brutal. I saw absolute bedlam
and panic. People pounding on car windows demanding water or food, fights,
people hollering and screaming...insane. My youngest was crying and afraid.
Thank God the boys were with me and not trapped at a government school.
What would have happened had the event lasted 3 days? Or a nuke? Terrorism?
It was so insane, that my wife who scoffs at prepping, saw the light. Once
she got home (after 13 hours to drive 20 miles), she hugged me and said
"you were right all along. I want a gun." I am an 8th generation Georgian,
and I could not believe the actions of other "southern" people. When the
veneer of civilization goes, sanity goes. Keep up your good work.
Pike
Steve,
I live in West Georgia, about 40 miles from Atlanta. The surprise storm
caught everyone off guard, and driving became brutal. I saw absolute bedlam
and panic. People pounding on car windows demanding water or food, fights,
people hollering and screaming...insane. My youngest was crying and afraid.
Thank God the boys were with me and not trapped at a government school.
What would have happened had the event lasted 3 days? Or a nuke? Terrorism?
It was so insane, that my wife who scoffs at prepping, saw the light. Once
she got home (after 13 hours to drive 20 miles), she hugged me and said
"you were right all along. I want a gun." I am an 8th generation Georgian,
and I could not believe the actions of other "southern" people. When the
veneer of civilization goes, sanity goes. Keep up your good work.
Pike
Jason Martell posted in Exopolitics UK - Updated Group
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Democrat Says All Military Veterans are Mentally Ill » Eagle Rising
http://eaglerising.com/4382/democrat-says-military-veterans-mentally-ill/
Obama Promises To Enact Gun Control Laws “With Or Without Congress”
Critics Respond: “He doesn’t have the constitutional authority to act unilaterally”
Tea Party favourite Stockman said Obama was promising to “break his oath of office and begin enacting his own brand of law through executive decree.”
“This is a wholesale violation of his oath of office and a disqualifying offense,” the Texas congressman said.
Other Republicans took a similar stance. “Unfortunately, what I heard from President Obama tonight was hostility toward our foundational principles, condescension toward a co-equal branch of government, and a general aversion to common sense and bipartisanship,” Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho) commented.
“The president’s attempt to intimidate Congress by abusing executive power demonstrates a serious unwillingness to work with the coequal legislative branch of government,” Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.) wrote in a statement.
NSA Hires Former DHS Official As “Civil Liberties and Privacy Officer”
In other words, NSA hires its future scapegoat
and from Email:
Hmmm, I didn't read anywhere in here anything that indicated my Senator has a clue what is going on or how critical our situation currently is.
He is silent on over-reach of power in the Executive.
He seems unaware over what happened on 01-14-14 wrt the statements made in the press and via intelligence communication devices about the influence upon US domestic and international policy.
He seems unaware of citizens concerns over the stationing of foreign troops in our nation for use in lew of our own military to deal with the public in a crisis situation.
He still gives no indication he is informed and critical about what happened wrt a set of glassmakers in September of 2013
But this guy has time to read to elementary school kids and focus on health centers for affordable health care and the farm bill. Not that those are not important in some way, but I would think the things I mention above would be of a higher priority. At least if you really cared about having a Constitutional Republic to be a representative of the people in.
I am still mindful of him appearing to join the military purging bandwagon by broadcasting through the Great Falls Tribune, that he is backing a nuclear forces review. So he's involved in the aftermath of what occurred in September but, what, is he uninformed? Or is he in on the corruption? Exactly what color of dog does he have in the hunt? As a constituent of his, I'd really like to know.
Cy
http://eaglerising.com/4382/democrat-says-military-veterans-mentally-ill/
Obama Promises To Enact Gun Control Laws “With Or Without Congress”
Critics Respond: “He doesn’t have the constitutional authority to act unilaterally”
Tea Party favourite Stockman said Obama was promising to “break his oath of office and begin enacting his own brand of law through executive decree.”
“This is a wholesale violation of his oath of office and a disqualifying offense,” the Texas congressman said.
Other Republicans took a similar stance. “Unfortunately, what I heard from President Obama tonight was hostility toward our foundational principles, condescension toward a co-equal branch of government, and a general aversion to common sense and bipartisanship,” Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-Idaho) commented.
“The president’s attempt to intimidate Congress by abusing executive power demonstrates a serious unwillingness to work with the coequal legislative branch of government,” Rep. Gregg Harper (R-Miss.) wrote in a statement.
NSA Hires Former DHS Official As “Civil Liberties and Privacy Officer”
In other words, NSA hires its future scapegoat
and from Email:
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Hmmm, I didn't read anywhere in here anything that indicated my Senator has a clue what is going on or how critical our situation currently is.
He is silent on over-reach of power in the Executive.
He seems unaware over what happened on 01-14-14 wrt the statements made in the press and via intelligence communication devices about the influence upon US domestic and international policy.
He seems unaware of citizens concerns over the stationing of foreign troops in our nation for use in lew of our own military to deal with the public in a crisis situation.
He still gives no indication he is informed and critical about what happened wrt a set of glassmakers in September of 2013
But this guy has time to read to elementary school kids and focus on health centers for affordable health care and the farm bill. Not that those are not important in some way, but I would think the things I mention above would be of a higher priority. At least if you really cared about having a Constitutional Republic to be a representative of the people in.
I am still mindful of him appearing to join the military purging bandwagon by broadcasting through the Great Falls Tribune, that he is backing a nuclear forces review. So he's involved in the aftermath of what occurred in September but, what, is he uninformed? Or is he in on the corruption? Exactly what color of dog does he have in the hunt? As a constituent of his, I'd really like to know.
Cy
I just received via email a letter from a NY assemblyman to the governor of NY. It is an amazing, level-headed and fair letter illustrating the tracks the two sides of the great conflict between traditional America (Constitutional) and the progressive America (typically socialistic/marxist). The animosity against humanity which is not exactly like them is clearly evident from the progressives and addressed in the letter. Observing these types of dialogs is like putting a piece of litmus paper in a solution which is evolving, becoming more volatile.
Cy
Letter from Assemblyman Steven F. McLaughlin:
The Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo
NYS Capitol Building
Albany, NY 12224
Governor Cuomo,
I write you today to express my disappointment upon hearing the comments you made Friday, January 17th on the Capitol Pressroom. Specifically, I am referring to your statement regarding those who you deem to be “extreme conservatives” having “no place in the state of New York.” Demagogic rhetoric like that has no place in the state of New York from anyone, and certainly not from the chief executive of the state.
You have clearly redefined ‘extreme’ to suit your narrative. What you’ve decided is “extreme” are in reality mainstream positions held by millions of New Yorkers and Americans, and they are not just Conservatives. Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents can be counted among those you labeled as “extreme.”
You stated that those who support the traditional definition of marriage are somehow “anti-gay.” Your conclusion is so ill-informed that it defies description. Millions of New Yorkers believe in traditional marriage and millions more support gay marriage. People that support the traditional definition of marriage between a man and a woman are not anti-gay any more than those that support gay marriage are “anti-heterosexual.” How is support for traditional marriage an “extreme” position? Is it your assertion for example, that Pope Francis or Cardinal Dolan have “no place in the state of New York” because of their belief and the belief of millions of Catholics that marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman? Further, it isn’t just Catholics, Governor. Jews, Protestants, Baptists, Muslims, etc., all have members of their faith that believe the same thing. They also, I assume, have members that believe in gay marriage. The point, Governor, is that those views are held by millions of people in New York, all of whom have a place here.
Regarding those who support the 2nd amendment you asked; “Are they pro-assault weapon?” That is a political term coined by anti-gun progressives. In an unprecedented show of opposition to a bill you jammed through the legislature, over 50 counties, Sheriff’s, over 300 towns and villages, the VA, millions of New Yorkers and every single police officer I know have opposed the SAFE Act. They are not extremist’s Governor, they are our fellow citizens.
The contempt in your voice was evident as you said “Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapon, anti-gay?” Millions of New Yorkers believe in the sanctity of life just as millions are pro-choice. While there is obvious disagreement between the two beliefs, why is the pro-life position suddenly an extreme one when 48% of Americans state that they are pro-life? 35% of self-described Democrats identify themselves as pro-life. I ask you Governor which is the more extreme position: Those who believe in the sanctity of life, or a Governor pushing a bill that would allow the abortion of full term, viable fetuses that could be performed by non-physicians? Which one of those would a very large majority of people find to be the more extreme position?
You clearly have a talent for redefining words and issues to suit your agenda. Those you agree with are “common sense” while anyone who opposes you is an “extremist.” Have we really arrived at a point where we have a Governor so contemptuous of debate or opposition, that you find it necessary to demonize the very people you serve?
Rather than attack those who disagree with you Governor Cuomo, perhaps you should attack the real “extremes” that our citizens deal with every day under your administration. Here are a few, but certainly not all. Since November, New Yorkers have watched their electric rates almost double; according to the US Department of Energy, New Yorkers paid the highest electricity rates at the end of 2013 of all states in the mainland US. Yet, I haven’t heard you decry the extreme regulatory climate cultivated by your own appointees that’s made New Yorkers pay more than 50% the national average to light their homes?
Absent the reforms that were promised at the time the tax cap was created, our school and property taxes continue to climb. New York is more secure than ever in its position as having the highest such taxes in the nation, your rhetoric aside. Will you speak out against the extreme unfairness of the unfunded mandates with the same gusto that you attack the views of Catholics, Orthodox Jews and Muslims?
New York presently sits near the top of all the wrong lists. Taxes, spending, corruption, and cost of living--just to name a few while we are at the bottom of the list on business climate, economic and personal freedoms among others. Unlike the religious and political views of private citizens, these are things that Albany actually has the ability to change and while you’ve paid lip-service to them, you’ve done virtually nothing to change any of them.
Perhaps you should address the “extreme” exodus of our friends, family, co-workers, and businesses as they escape from New York for better opportunities, lower taxes and more freedom? The fleeing of New York has accelerated during your tenure.
There are five months remaining in the legislative session. That’s plenty of time to lower property taxes, make New York more affordable and help the private sector create jobs. You are obviously frustrated by the fact that each of your major social policies has met bipartisan opposition, but that doesn’t excuse you choosing to fight who you describe as “extremists” instead of fighting the extreme problems you were elected to fix.
Rather than you taking responsibility and personally explaining your statements, your staff is claiming that your words were taken out of context. I listened repeatedly. They were not taken out of context. They were spoken by you and the meaning was clear. Your staff is claiming that you were talking not about citizens but about political candidates. For the record; I think that explanation is laughable. But, even if true, it is as frighteningly arrogant as you saying that citizens have no place in New York. Are you really that fearful of honest debate and opposing viewpoints? Is it your contention Governor that a pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, pro-traditional marriage candidate, or any combination of those, has no place running for office? I shudder to think of the state you described during that interview. There are countries around the world where elected officials blindly follow their leader. Those countries are not the United States.
New York has always been a tapestry of humanity, welcoming to all people regardless of their nationality, faith, culture or beliefs. Those differences make us who we are as a state and a nation. Contrary to what you seem to think, that is the beauty and the bold colors of New York and America. It is what makes us unique and strong.
While I disagree with progressive philosophy regularly, I would never say that there is no place in New York for progressives. Nor would I say there is no place for you in New York. There is. But if you seek to demonize those who disagree with you by saying that they don’t belong in this great state, that place is not the Governor’s office.
I shouldn’t need to remind you that as Governor it is your duty to serve all of the people of this state and not just those who agree with you.
Sincerely,
Assemblyman Steven F. McLaughlin
Cy
Letter from Assemblyman Steven F. McLaughlin:
The Honorable Andrew M. Cuomo
NYS Capitol Building
Albany, NY 12224
Governor Cuomo,
I write you today to express my disappointment upon hearing the comments you made Friday, January 17th on the Capitol Pressroom. Specifically, I am referring to your statement regarding those who you deem to be “extreme conservatives” having “no place in the state of New York.” Demagogic rhetoric like that has no place in the state of New York from anyone, and certainly not from the chief executive of the state.
You have clearly redefined ‘extreme’ to suit your narrative. What you’ve decided is “extreme” are in reality mainstream positions held by millions of New Yorkers and Americans, and they are not just Conservatives. Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents can be counted among those you labeled as “extreme.”
You stated that those who support the traditional definition of marriage are somehow “anti-gay.” Your conclusion is so ill-informed that it defies description. Millions of New Yorkers believe in traditional marriage and millions more support gay marriage. People that support the traditional definition of marriage between a man and a woman are not anti-gay any more than those that support gay marriage are “anti-heterosexual.” How is support for traditional marriage an “extreme” position? Is it your assertion for example, that Pope Francis or Cardinal Dolan have “no place in the state of New York” because of their belief and the belief of millions of Catholics that marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman? Further, it isn’t just Catholics, Governor. Jews, Protestants, Baptists, Muslims, etc., all have members of their faith that believe the same thing. They also, I assume, have members that believe in gay marriage. The point, Governor, is that those views are held by millions of people in New York, all of whom have a place here.
Regarding those who support the 2nd amendment you asked; “Are they pro-assault weapon?” That is a political term coined by anti-gun progressives. In an unprecedented show of opposition to a bill you jammed through the legislature, over 50 counties, Sheriff’s, over 300 towns and villages, the VA, millions of New Yorkers and every single police officer I know have opposed the SAFE Act. They are not extremist’s Governor, they are our fellow citizens.
The contempt in your voice was evident as you said “Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right to life, pro-assault weapon, anti-gay?” Millions of New Yorkers believe in the sanctity of life just as millions are pro-choice. While there is obvious disagreement between the two beliefs, why is the pro-life position suddenly an extreme one when 48% of Americans state that they are pro-life? 35% of self-described Democrats identify themselves as pro-life. I ask you Governor which is the more extreme position: Those who believe in the sanctity of life, or a Governor pushing a bill that would allow the abortion of full term, viable fetuses that could be performed by non-physicians? Which one of those would a very large majority of people find to be the more extreme position?
You clearly have a talent for redefining words and issues to suit your agenda. Those you agree with are “common sense” while anyone who opposes you is an “extremist.” Have we really arrived at a point where we have a Governor so contemptuous of debate or opposition, that you find it necessary to demonize the very people you serve?
Rather than attack those who disagree with you Governor Cuomo, perhaps you should attack the real “extremes” that our citizens deal with every day under your administration. Here are a few, but certainly not all. Since November, New Yorkers have watched their electric rates almost double; according to the US Department of Energy, New Yorkers paid the highest electricity rates at the end of 2013 of all states in the mainland US. Yet, I haven’t heard you decry the extreme regulatory climate cultivated by your own appointees that’s made New Yorkers pay more than 50% the national average to light their homes?
Absent the reforms that were promised at the time the tax cap was created, our school and property taxes continue to climb. New York is more secure than ever in its position as having the highest such taxes in the nation, your rhetoric aside. Will you speak out against the extreme unfairness of the unfunded mandates with the same gusto that you attack the views of Catholics, Orthodox Jews and Muslims?
New York presently sits near the top of all the wrong lists. Taxes, spending, corruption, and cost of living--just to name a few while we are at the bottom of the list on business climate, economic and personal freedoms among others. Unlike the religious and political views of private citizens, these are things that Albany actually has the ability to change and while you’ve paid lip-service to them, you’ve done virtually nothing to change any of them.
Perhaps you should address the “extreme” exodus of our friends, family, co-workers, and businesses as they escape from New York for better opportunities, lower taxes and more freedom? The fleeing of New York has accelerated during your tenure.
There are five months remaining in the legislative session. That’s plenty of time to lower property taxes, make New York more affordable and help the private sector create jobs. You are obviously frustrated by the fact that each of your major social policies has met bipartisan opposition, but that doesn’t excuse you choosing to fight who you describe as “extremists” instead of fighting the extreme problems you were elected to fix.
Rather than you taking responsibility and personally explaining your statements, your staff is claiming that your words were taken out of context. I listened repeatedly. They were not taken out of context. They were spoken by you and the meaning was clear. Your staff is claiming that you were talking not about citizens but about political candidates. For the record; I think that explanation is laughable. But, even if true, it is as frighteningly arrogant as you saying that citizens have no place in New York. Are you really that fearful of honest debate and opposing viewpoints? Is it your contention Governor that a pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, pro-traditional marriage candidate, or any combination of those, has no place running for office? I shudder to think of the state you described during that interview. There are countries around the world where elected officials blindly follow their leader. Those countries are not the United States.
New York has always been a tapestry of humanity, welcoming to all people regardless of their nationality, faith, culture or beliefs. Those differences make us who we are as a state and a nation. Contrary to what you seem to think, that is the beauty and the bold colors of New York and America. It is what makes us unique and strong.
While I disagree with progressive philosophy regularly, I would never say that there is no place in New York for progressives. Nor would I say there is no place for you in New York. There is. But if you seek to demonize those who disagree with you by saying that they don’t belong in this great state, that place is not the Governor’s office.
I shouldn’t need to remind you that as Governor it is your duty to serve all of the people of this state and not just those who agree with you.
Sincerely,
Assemblyman Steven F. McLaughlin
And my last post of the evening is speaking once more of what happened September 2013...remember?
Well here comes Senator Lindsey Graham. Again.
http://beforeitsnews.com/u-s-politics/2014/01/senator-the-worlds-about-to-blow-up-literally-2461296.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/29/sen-lindsey-graham-world-literally-about-blow/
Sen. Lindsey Graham blasted President Obama for the foreign policy portion of his State of the Union address Tuesday night.
“The world is literally about to blow up,” the South Carolina Republican told Roll Call. “The world as I know was not remotely described by the president.”
“Syria is a contagion … Iraq is disintegrating. The whole region is moving toward chaos, and we’re doing nothing. We’re talking about limiting drones?” he continued.
Whelp, there's that foreign policy thang again....back up this thread by two pages and find my 01-28-14 Speech wrt that foreign policy thang.
Oh, but nothing to see here! Move along!
Well here comes Senator Lindsey Graham. Again.
http://beforeitsnews.com/u-s-politics/2014/01/senator-the-worlds-about-to-blow-up-literally-2461296.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/29/sen-lindsey-graham-world-literally-about-blow/
Sen. Lindsey Graham blasted President Obama for the foreign policy portion of his State of the Union address Tuesday night.
“The world is literally about to blow up,” the South Carolina Republican told Roll Call. “The world as I know was not remotely described by the president.”
“Syria is a contagion … Iraq is disintegrating. The whole region is moving toward chaos, and we’re doing nothing. We’re talking about limiting drones?” he continued.
Whelp, there's that foreign policy thang again....back up this thread by two pages and find my 01-28-14 Speech wrt that foreign policy thang.
Oh, but nothing to see here! Move along!
He might be reluctant to shower now with the thought of doing it in the fast lane of Galactic Interstate 5. If his hair is ruffled, and the clothes unkempt for the next week don't be surprised.
This is one that will have all readers keenly interested - From Email:
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 21:59:26 -0600
From: thebyteshow@zianet.com
To: Vardas3@--------
Subject: Fwd: 2 - Only An Idiot Would Do This...
-------- Original Message --------
What is wrong with this picture?
The picture is of the five first line US nuclear carriers docked together in one place. Just like Battleship Row, Pearl Harbor , December 7, 1941.
This picture was taken the other day in Norfolk , Virginia .
Obama ordered 5 nuclear carriers into harbor for "routine" (?) inspections.
Heads of the Navy were flabbergasted by the directive but had to comply as it was a direct order from their Commander-in-Chief.
The carriers were all pulled out from the MIDDLE EAST and the Afghanistan support role leaving our land forces naked and exposed!
NORFOLK, VA. (February 8, 2013). This is the first time since WWII that five nuclear powered aircraft carriers were docked together.
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69), USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77), USS Enterprise (CVN 65), USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), and USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) are all in port at Naval Station Norfolk, Va., the world's largest naval station.
Knowledgeable Sources stated that this breached a long standing military protocol in the Navy meant to avoid a massive enemy strike on major US forces.
(U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Ryan J. Courtade/Released).
Obama is Commander in chief.
This ordering of most of the Navy's capitol ships into one place is unprecedented since Pearl Harbor !
This could be the creation of a false flag atomic incident too stupid for any enemy to pass up.
End Quote.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:25 AM, DF <withheld> wrote:
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From: Cyrellys <------->
Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Only An Idiot Would Do This...
To: DF
Are we that stupid? WE are not. The POTUS however has a depopulation agenda because he takes his marching orders from depopulationists. And his upline is looking for another September 2013 (remember what Senator Lindsey Graham did as part of the whistleblowing about the nukes taken from Dyess AFB?). Well Lindsey Graham made another statement yesterday. Along the same lines. So this might fill in the blanks in the questions I have about, who, what, when, where.
Yeah this should scare you. The Navy have largely been the oath-keeping holdouts against the marxism. So they are A-number one targets. And because he's potus, he's got them over a barrel. Easy to shoot apples in a barrel.
Oh and speaking of shooting apples in a barrel....
I have it on good Canadian authority that Google has spent last year mapping every nook and cranny of RURAL Montana in high definition so good you could find a pencil in the woods. The American Redoubt is apparently on the target list earlier than the good Oathkeepers think it is.
Cy
[ltr]Cy,
You know who was on the Board of Directors of Google when it was taking off don't you ?
Thats right Bill Clintons George Tenet[/ltr]
[ltr]I missed that one. Thx. Doesn't surprise me in the least all things considered. Cy[/ltr]
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 21:59:26 -0600
From: thebyteshow@zianet.com
To: Vardas3@--------
Subject: Fwd: 2 - Only An Idiot Would Do This...
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2 - Only An Idiot Would Do This... |
Tue, 28 Jan 2014 04:36:49 -0600 |
GeorgeAnn |
thebyteshow@zianet.com |
Very Little |
What is wrong with this picture?
The picture is of the five first line US nuclear carriers docked together in one place. Just like Battleship Row, Pearl Harbor , December 7, 1941.
This picture was taken the other day in Norfolk , Virginia .
Obama ordered 5 nuclear carriers into harbor for "routine" (?) inspections.
Heads of the Navy were flabbergasted by the directive but had to comply as it was a direct order from their Commander-in-Chief.
The carriers were all pulled out from the MIDDLE EAST and the Afghanistan support role leaving our land forces naked and exposed!
NORFOLK, VA. (February 8, 2013). This is the first time since WWII that five nuclear powered aircraft carriers were docked together.
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69), USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77), USS Enterprise (CVN 65), USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), and USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) are all in port at Naval Station Norfolk, Va., the world's largest naval station.
Knowledgeable Sources stated that this breached a long standing military protocol in the Navy meant to avoid a massive enemy strike on major US forces.
(U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Ryan J. Courtade/Released).
Obama is Commander in chief.
This ordering of most of the Navy's capitol ships into one place is unprecedented since Pearl Harbor !
This could be the creation of a false flag atomic incident too stupid for any enemy to pass up.
End Quote.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:25 AM, DF <withheld> wrote:
Cy, are we just f...king stupid ?
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From: Cyrellys <------->
Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Only An Idiot Would Do This...
To: DF
Are we that stupid? WE are not. The POTUS however has a depopulation agenda because he takes his marching orders from depopulationists. And his upline is looking for another September 2013 (remember what Senator Lindsey Graham did as part of the whistleblowing about the nukes taken from Dyess AFB?). Well Lindsey Graham made another statement yesterday. Along the same lines. So this might fill in the blanks in the questions I have about, who, what, when, where.
Yeah this should scare you. The Navy have largely been the oath-keeping holdouts against the marxism. So they are A-number one targets. And because he's potus, he's got them over a barrel. Easy to shoot apples in a barrel.
Oh and speaking of shooting apples in a barrel....
I have it on good Canadian authority that Google has spent last year mapping every nook and cranny of RURAL Montana in high definition so good you could find a pencil in the woods. The American Redoubt is apparently on the target list earlier than the good Oathkeepers think it is.
Cy
DF | 7:59 AM (30 minutes ago) | ||
[ltr]Cy,
You know who was on the Board of Directors of Google when it was taking off don't you ?
Thats right Bill Clintons George Tenet[/ltr]
| 8:16 AM (15 minutes ago) | |||
[ltr]I missed that one. Thx. Doesn't surprise me in the least all things considered. Cy[/ltr]
Cyrellys cyrellys@dishmail.net
8:52 AM (3 minutes ago)
to DF, bcc: C, bcc: S, bcc: Elias, bcc: Susan
And then on top of the other there is this....if one didn't know the backstories we've been discussing you'd think POTUS had lost his ever loving mind. Be sure to read the list of events in date order with bibliographic notations in my speech I sent you late Tuesday evening.
Cy
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From: America Conservative 2 Conservative < >
Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:59 AM
Subject: Obama Regime Orders U.S. Troops In Afghanistan To Carry Weapons With No Bullets!
To: "cyrellys@ " <cyrellys@ >
8:52 AM (3 minutes ago)
to DF, bcc: C, bcc: S, bcc: Elias, bcc: Susan
And then on top of the other there is this....if one didn't know the backstories we've been discussing you'd think POTUS had lost his ever loving mind. Be sure to read the list of events in date order with bibliographic notations in my speech I sent you late Tuesday evening.
Cy
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From: America Conservative 2 Conservative < >
Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:59 AM
Subject: Obama Regime Orders U.S. Troops In Afghanistan To Carry Weapons With No Bullets!
To: "cyrellys@ " <cyrellys@ >
|
Well, during homeschool today I have been assaulted by teenage discoveries in "your mama" quips from the internet including ones like this:
Your mama is so fat, that when she went swimming out in the Pacific ocean a group of whales came swimming along singing we-are-family! even though you're bigger than me!!!
Your mama is so fat, that when she went swimming in the Atlantic ocean and Spain claimed her as a new world.
And then there were a series of similar ones that exceed re-publishing discretion and decency.
MEANWHILE
Putin is reported as slamming 'morally bankrupt America who is godless now'.
http://patdollard.com/2014/01/putin-slams-morally-bankrupt-america-whos-godless-now/
Whelp there is nothing sane nor sacred these days. Maybe.
But then Putin is still focused on the recent policy topic (01-14-14 ?):
“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. “Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.”
Cy
-- Truth is stranger than fiction.
Your mama is so fat, that when she went swimming out in the Pacific ocean a group of whales came swimming along singing we-are-family! even though you're bigger than me!!!
Your mama is so fat, that when she went swimming in the Atlantic ocean and Spain claimed her as a new world.
And then there were a series of similar ones that exceed re-publishing discretion and decency.
MEANWHILE
Putin is reported as slamming 'morally bankrupt America who is godless now'.
http://patdollard.com/2014/01/putin-slams-morally-bankrupt-america-whos-godless-now/
Whelp there is nothing sane nor sacred these days. Maybe.
But then Putin is still focused on the recent policy topic (01-14-14 ?):
“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. “Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.”
Cy
-- Truth is stranger than fiction.
Re: The Bible, UFOs, ET and the Ancients Part 3
by Cyrellys Today at 12:36 pm
compare to the list of events provided in date order within my speech here: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t158p330-uncommon-thoughts-on-common-things-cyrellys#4975
as well as to several subsequent events where I've tracked the dialog on the 'policy announcement'.
QUOTE:
As part of this defense of “Christian values,” Russia has adopted a law banning “homosexual propaganda” and another that makes it a criminal offense to “insult” the religious sensibilities of believers.
The law on religious sensibilities was adopted in the wake of a protest in Moscow’s largest cathedral by a female punk rock group against the Orthodox Church’s support of Mr. Putin. Kremlin-run television said the group’s “demonic” protest was funded by “some Americans.”
Mr. Putin’s views of the West were echoed this month by Patriarch Kirill I of Moscow, the leader of the Orthodox Church, who accused Western countries of engaging in the “spiritual disarmament” of their people.
END QUOTE Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2014/01/putin-slams-morally-bankrupt-america-whos-godless-now-2798146.html
BACKSTORY: One of the things Russia has been criticized about (topic russian troops in America for martial law scenario - pre staged here) is that Russia is believed to have ulterior conquest motives and be morally bankrupt because they are led by a former KGB agent - this is per comments from talking heads in the patriot community who swear if a martial law scenario occurs here and Russian troops emerge from the places they've been identified as hiding in, that Russia will not be getting those bodies back, not even in body bags. But much of the patriot community has not been doing what I've been doing which is tracking the extraterrestrial wild card in the mix and the 01-14-14 events/dialogs in the back channels.
Looking at that article put out by pat dollard and the comments by Putin, it seems to me that those taken along side of a recent letter to America is designed to communicate something to the conservatives, patriots, christians, libertarians, constitutionalists et al in America. A stance he has taken. Putin never seems to be someone who goofs around. So if he publicly takes a stance there's a reason behind it.
He's communicating being a supporter of traditionalist, principled values that are uniform to our conservative constitutional patriotic values. He's recommending to the world sticking to those values. Is this a response to the accusations leveled at him and his nation for the presence of Russian troops? Are we looking at a possible meeting on the proverbial battlefield of ideas something akin to the Irish turning and shaking hands with the hero of the tale of Braveheart of Scotland?
The answer to that may be in who controls the troops stationed here in the US. Is it the globals or is it Putin? The hard part in answering that question however is that someone outside of those in the American liberty movement who know of them, would have to first admit they are here.
Cy
Is Putin a Third Option'r?
by Cyrellys Today at 12:36 pm
Cy wrote:Re: Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things - Cyrellys
Today at 11:42 am by Cyrellys (Online)
Well, during homeschool today I have been assaulted by teenage discoveries in "your mama" quips from the internet including ones like this:
Your mama is so fat, that when she went swimming out in the Pacific ocean a group of whales came swimming along singing we-are-family! even though you're bigger than me!!!
Your mama is so fat, that when she went swimming in the Atlantic ocean and Spain claimed her as a new world.
And then there were a series of similar ones that exceed re-publishing discretion and decency.
MEANWHILE
Putin is reported as slamming 'morally bankrupt America who is godless now'.
http://patdollard.com/2014/01/putin-slams-morally-bankrupt-america-whos-godless-now/
Whelp there is nothing sane nor sacred these days. Maybe.
But then Putin is still focused on the recent policy topic (01-14-14 ?):
“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. “Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.”
Cy
-- Truth is stranger than fiction.
compare to the list of events provided in date order within my speech here: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t158p330-uncommon-thoughts-on-common-things-cyrellys#4975
as well as to several subsequent events where I've tracked the dialog on the 'policy announcement'.
QUOTE:
As part of this defense of “Christian values,” Russia has adopted a law banning “homosexual propaganda” and another that makes it a criminal offense to “insult” the religious sensibilities of believers.
The law on religious sensibilities was adopted in the wake of a protest in Moscow’s largest cathedral by a female punk rock group against the Orthodox Church’s support of Mr. Putin. Kremlin-run television said the group’s “demonic” protest was funded by “some Americans.”
Mr. Putin’s views of the West were echoed this month by Patriarch Kirill I of Moscow, the leader of the Orthodox Church, who accused Western countries of engaging in the “spiritual disarmament” of their people.
END QUOTE Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2014/01/putin-slams-morally-bankrupt-america-whos-godless-now-2798146.html
BACKSTORY: One of the things Russia has been criticized about (topic russian troops in America for martial law scenario - pre staged here) is that Russia is believed to have ulterior conquest motives and be morally bankrupt because they are led by a former KGB agent - this is per comments from talking heads in the patriot community who swear if a martial law scenario occurs here and Russian troops emerge from the places they've been identified as hiding in, that Russia will not be getting those bodies back, not even in body bags. But much of the patriot community has not been doing what I've been doing which is tracking the extraterrestrial wild card in the mix and the 01-14-14 events/dialogs in the back channels.
Looking at that article put out by pat dollard and the comments by Putin, it seems to me that those taken along side of a recent letter to America is designed to communicate something to the conservatives, patriots, christians, libertarians, constitutionalists et al in America. A stance he has taken. Putin never seems to be someone who goofs around. So if he publicly takes a stance there's a reason behind it.
He's communicating being a supporter of traditionalist, principled values that are uniform to our conservative constitutional patriotic values. He's recommending to the world sticking to those values. Is this a response to the accusations leveled at him and his nation for the presence of Russian troops? Are we looking at a possible meeting on the proverbial battlefield of ideas something akin to the Irish turning and shaking hands with the hero of the tale of Braveheart of Scotland?
The answer to that may be in who controls the troops stationed here in the US. Is it the globals or is it Putin? The hard part in answering that question however is that someone outside of those in the American liberty movement who know of them, would have to first admit they are here.
Cy
Is Putin a Third Option'r?
Cy Email 01-31-14 wrote:
CyrellysFri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM To: knowlesmontana@-------- Cc: Randall Knowles It would be nice if someone somewhere along this tour would put Baucus on the spot and point blank ask him clearly in front of a large
audience "Why did he vote for the United Nations treaty on gun
control? Why did he vote to put a railroad spike in the back of the
Constitution by voting to destroy the 2nd Amendment and subject all
gun owners to a registry list and level of control given physically to
the United Nations and place further restrictions on magazines, along
with open the door to the information they've been working to obtain
about American Citizens to enable the globalists to move forward with
overt whole population gun confiscation?" I would like to know if he
is or has been really that ignorant that he hasn't known what has been
going on, or if he's a closet Marxist willing and bent to destroy the
founder's Third Option, just like Obama who this week in the State of
the Union Address clearly indicated that he would circumvent Congress
if he cannot get Congress to institute gun confiscation; that he would
circumvent Congress with Executive decision or decrees. And I noted
that I didn't see Mr. Baucus stand up in the audience and call for the
POTUS's arrest for treason.
Cyrellys
On 1/31/14, Randall Knowles <knowlesmontana@ > wrote:
>
> Sen. Baucus Tour; Join the tour!
>
>
>
> Max Baucus will be doing one last tour through Montana to say "Thank You"
> to
> Montanans for all of their years of support of him as Senator. We would
> love to see Montana Ambassadors come out in the communities where Max will
> be visiting to support his final farewell as our Senator before possibly
> moving on as Ambassador to China.
>
>
>
> Max will start January 31, in Billings with a Rally for Billings Business
> at
> Underriner Honda at 9am. He will then move onto the Two Dot Bar in Two
> Dot,
> MT for a Rally for Rural Montana at 1:45pm, January 31. From Two Dot,
> Senator Baucus will move onto Butte for a Montana Solutions for Montana
> Jobs
> Rally at the Montana Tech Student Union Building Copper Lounge at 4pm,
> January 31.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 1, Senator Baucus will begin the day in Great Falls
> with a Rally for Service Members at 9:30am at the Montana Electric Co-op
> Association (301 Bay Drive, GF). And finally, Max will move on to Missoula
> with a Rally for Outdoor Heritage at the Grizzly Hackle Fly Shop (215 W.
> Front St.)
From Email wrote:---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: OFC. OF STEVEN C.
Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:38 PM
Subject: Fw: HOORAY - 53-46 vote~
To:
From: Steven Castrechino
To:
Subject: HOORAY - 53-46 vote~
HOORAY - 53-46 vote
The U.N. Resolution 2117 lists 21 points dealing with firearms control, but perhaps of most interest is point number 11: “CALLS FOR MEMBER STATES TO SUPPORT WEAPONS COLLECTION, DISARMAMENT ---”
HOORAY - 53-46 vote - The U.S. Senate voted against the U.N. resolution.
At least our Texas Senators are not on this list. I am sorry to see so many other states have a sorry record of the 2nd amendment support.
This is that brief, glorious moment in history
when everyone stands around...reloading.
Now, Which 46 Senators Voted to Destroy Us? Well, let their names become known !! See below . If you vote in one of the states listed with these 46 “legis..traitors”… vote against them.
In a 53-46 vote, the Senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The Statement of Purpose from the Bill reads: "To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty." The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S. and had language that would have implemented aninternational gun registry, now get this, on all private guns and ammo.
Astonishingly, 46 out of our 100 United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.
Here are the 46 senators who voted to give your rights to the U.N.
Baldwin (D-WI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Coons (D-DE)
Cowan (D-MA)
Durbin (D-IL)j
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hirono (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL) *******
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Folks: This needs to go viral. These Senators voted to let the UN take OUR guns. They need to lose their next election. We have been betrayed.
46 Senators Voted to Give your 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights to the U.N.
NO Rep. names here!!
Please send this to SOMEONE!
As you can see I noted Baucus was on the list of having voted for it.
Not cool. So of course he would not have stood up for the Constitution during the State of the Union Address.
Not a one of those lukewarm idiots stood up.
Cy
USSC Chief Justice Roberts Meets Privately with Defendant O !!!!!! Inbox
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Read all below, it is shockingly improper. Who ever would have expected Chief Justice Roberts to become a lap dog?
From: bsawyer64@
To: senatewebmail@cornyn.senate.gov, John.Carona@senate.state.tx.us, stefani@carterfortexas.com, cindy.burkett@house.state.tx.us
Sent: 1/31/2014 7:57:19 A.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Fw: New: Obama Eligibility Challenge Reaches United States Supreme Court
I WON'T UN-SUBSCRIBE EVEN KNOWING THE SUBSTANCES THAT OBAMA HAS PLACED ON ME AND ALL PERSONS (NDCC , SECT 102) ABOUT SCRUTINIZING POLITICAL PERSONS IN OFFICE !
AND AS FAR AS ROBERTS MEETING WITH OBAMA , "IT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION AND BEYOND THE LAW" ! HE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR "GOD'S SAKE AND IT'S IMPROPER FOR A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE TO MEET WITH HIM SECRETLY !!!
AND CONGRESS SHOULD STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING ---- BUT CONGRESS BEING WHAT THEY ARE , THEY WON'T !!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEMPER FI
BOB SAWYER
USMC 1964-1972
VIET NAM VETERAN
“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering
if they’ve made a difference to this
world. . .
THE U.S. MARINES
don’t have that problem.” *
* President Ronald Reagan 1985
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No guts and no commitment to the Constitution by either the Congress or the Supreme Court when it comes to legislative actions or court hearings regarding Obama's highly suspect and almost certain fraud in occupying an office for which he is constitutionally ineligible! Dave
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Oral arguments in the case below were heard in April 2013; Alabama Supreme Court. You could have a baby in less time. How absurd for the court to sit on such a critical issue to this country. The issue of dual citizenship and two parents being U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth isn't real difficult to understand. Come on, Judge Roy Moore. Get your court to issue a decision, hopefully the right one, because dragging this out is bad for America.
Obama eligibility case still very much alive in Alabama Supreme Court
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/753262720823/
New and I recommend reading it all the way through:
Obama Eligibility Challenge Reaches United States Supreme Court
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/453784502258/
U.S. Supreme Court docket
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/974256161779/
I am actually shocked it is docketed since Justice Clarence Thomas remarked in front of a congressional committee the U.S. Supreme Court was evading the eligibility issue. Twice cases were docketed on the eligibility issue; both times killed in conference without any justification.
Not to mention the snake in the grass at the helm, Chief Justice John Roberts. Remember what he did?
Chief Justice John Roberts meets Obama in private
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/452144419653/
"I called the media number at the Supreme Court yesterday afternoon. The giddy operator confirmed they expected Obama at any minute!
"To say I was floored when I read the news item is an understatement. A 'ceremonial' meeting between a president elect and justices of the Supreme Court is somewhat traditional. HOWEVER, in this instance, it's flat out wrong. Chief Justice Roberts has cases on the docket where Obama is the defendant or is the subject of the litigation. Roberts and the other eight justices have already held two 'Distribution for Conferences' on the Donofrio and Wrotnoski cases on Obama's citizenship ineligibility. They just turned away one of Phil Berg's cases a few days ago; that one is still in the Third Circuit. Tomorrow is the fourth case; another from Phil Berg.
"On Wednesday, Roberts meets with the man at the heart of that case in private. Two days later, he sits down to discuss the case with the other justices after having a closed door meeting with the defendant! There is still the Lightfoot v Bowen case to be heard in conference, January 23, 2009. Again, Chief Justice Roberts will sit in that private meeting to discuss whether the case should go to oral arguments.
"Does anyone see major conflict of interest here? How can Chief Justice Roberts meet with Obama behind closed doors under such circumstances? Even if they just chatted up the weather, it is highly inappropriate in my humble opinion. Roberts should have notified Obama that under the circumstances, he would not be able to meet with him, private or with photogs in attendance. There must be zero appearance of any bias or preference when it comes to judges and justices of the Supreme Court."
Many believe Roberts sold his soul to cover up being a closet sexual deviant and the process he and his wife used to adopt their two daughters from Ireland.
I'm not holding my breath on the newly docketed case. Clarence Thomas and Roberts are suddenly going to find their backbones?
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From: bsawyer64@
To: senatewebmail@cornyn.senate.gov, John.Carona@senate.state.tx.us, stefani@carterfortexas.com, cindy.burkett@house.state.tx.us
Sent: 1/31/2014 7:57:19 A.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Fw: New: Obama Eligibility Challenge Reaches United States Supreme Court
I WON'T UN-SUBSCRIBE EVEN KNOWING THE SUBSTANCES THAT OBAMA HAS PLACED ON ME AND ALL PERSONS (NDCC , SECT 102) ABOUT SCRUTINIZING POLITICAL PERSONS IN OFFICE !
AND AS FAR AS ROBERTS MEETING WITH OBAMA , "IT'S OUT OF THE QUESTION AND BEYOND THE LAW" ! HE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR "GOD'S SAKE AND IT'S IMPROPER FOR A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE TO MEET WITH HIM SECRETLY !!!
AND CONGRESS SHOULD STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING ---- BUT CONGRESS BEING WHAT THEY ARE , THEY WON'T !!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEMPER FI
BOB SAWYER
USMC 1964-1972
VIET NAM VETERAN
“Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering
if they’ve made a difference to this
world. . .
THE U.S. MARINES
don’t have that problem.” *
* President Ronald Reagan 1985
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:09 AM
Subject: Fwd: New: Obama Eligibility Challenge Reaches United States Supreme Court
No guts and no commitment to the Constitution by either the Congress or the Supreme Court when it comes to legislative actions or court hearings regarding Obama's highly suspect and almost certain fraud in occupying an office for which he is constitutionally ineligible! Dave
From:
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Sent: 1/30/2014 2:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
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Oral arguments in the case below were heard in April 2013; Alabama Supreme Court. You could have a baby in less time. How absurd for the court to sit on such a critical issue to this country. The issue of dual citizenship and two parents being U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth isn't real difficult to understand. Come on, Judge Roy Moore. Get your court to issue a decision, hopefully the right one, because dragging this out is bad for America.
Obama eligibility case still very much alive in Alabama Supreme Court
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/753262720823/
New and I recommend reading it all the way through:
Obama Eligibility Challenge Reaches United States Supreme Court
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/453784502258/
U.S. Supreme Court docket
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/974256161779/
I am actually shocked it is docketed since Justice Clarence Thomas remarked in front of a congressional committee the U.S. Supreme Court was evading the eligibility issue. Twice cases were docketed on the eligibility issue; both times killed in conference without any justification.
Not to mention the snake in the grass at the helm, Chief Justice John Roberts. Remember what he did?
Chief Justice John Roberts meets Obama in private
http://devvy.net/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/r/alerts/452144419653/
"I called the media number at the Supreme Court yesterday afternoon. The giddy operator confirmed they expected Obama at any minute!
"To say I was floored when I read the news item is an understatement. A 'ceremonial' meeting between a president elect and justices of the Supreme Court is somewhat traditional. HOWEVER, in this instance, it's flat out wrong. Chief Justice Roberts has cases on the docket where Obama is the defendant or is the subject of the litigation. Roberts and the other eight justices have already held two 'Distribution for Conferences' on the Donofrio and Wrotnoski cases on Obama's citizenship ineligibility. They just turned away one of Phil Berg's cases a few days ago; that one is still in the Third Circuit. Tomorrow is the fourth case; another from Phil Berg.
"On Wednesday, Roberts meets with the man at the heart of that case in private. Two days later, he sits down to discuss the case with the other justices after having a closed door meeting with the defendant! There is still the Lightfoot v Bowen case to be heard in conference, January 23, 2009. Again, Chief Justice Roberts will sit in that private meeting to discuss whether the case should go to oral arguments.
"Does anyone see major conflict of interest here? How can Chief Justice Roberts meet with Obama behind closed doors under such circumstances? Even if they just chatted up the weather, it is highly inappropriate in my humble opinion. Roberts should have notified Obama that under the circumstances, he would not be able to meet with him, private or with photogs in attendance. There must be zero appearance of any bias or preference when it comes to judges and justices of the Supreme Court."
Many believe Roberts sold his soul to cover up being a closet sexual deviant and the process he and his wife used to adopt their two daughters from Ireland.
I'm not holding my breath on the newly docketed case. Clarence Thomas and Roberts are suddenly going to find their backbones?
“Is there anything more shameful than the man who lacks the courage to be a coward?” Peter Blaunder
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It doesn't matter that the current potus is the 'disclosure' president. Or that he has been 'groomed' for this or that 'they' felt they needed to give the general population what 'they' thought it wanted. The corruption will destroy the Third Option, not extraterrestrial contact.
This is a prime example how something that is wrong at the top spoils the whole kitten kaboodle. But it is not the primary thing wrong at the top. No, it is only a symptom. It is the thinking which is twisted and demented; which does not know its own history, principles, or purpose that is wrong at the top. That top created a facade in the current potus thinking it would 'do the job'. Get both success both for themselves, the old guard globals, and for the new emerging paradigm operated by the technocrats who cannot escape the system believing their Oath is to National Security instead of the Constitution.
This wrongness is designed, because they cannot create a corrupt structure unless that which would stand against it is made fully inconsequential. They never knew or never understood what the Third Option was. It was buried in the tale of the creation of the nation; not meant to be directly in the history books. And perhaps that was a mistake. But it wasn't supposed to be necessary to be there!
If the People had done their job and never gone to sleep, there never would have been a silent coup. They would have been experienced and prepared and well educated for what comes. Instead we meet the new landscape as we've done so many things of late - broken, chaotic, irrational, disfunctional, and factionalized. Right up the Old Guard's alley.
There is a silver lining -- silver on the Tree...
That silver is in the remembering.
Help them remember who they are.
This is a prime example how something that is wrong at the top spoils the whole kitten kaboodle. But it is not the primary thing wrong at the top. No, it is only a symptom. It is the thinking which is twisted and demented; which does not know its own history, principles, or purpose that is wrong at the top. That top created a facade in the current potus thinking it would 'do the job'. Get both success both for themselves, the old guard globals, and for the new emerging paradigm operated by the technocrats who cannot escape the system believing their Oath is to National Security instead of the Constitution.
This wrongness is designed, because they cannot create a corrupt structure unless that which would stand against it is made fully inconsequential. They never knew or never understood what the Third Option was. It was buried in the tale of the creation of the nation; not meant to be directly in the history books. And perhaps that was a mistake. But it wasn't supposed to be necessary to be there!
If the People had done their job and never gone to sleep, there never would have been a silent coup. They would have been experienced and prepared and well educated for what comes. Instead we meet the new landscape as we've done so many things of late - broken, chaotic, irrational, disfunctional, and factionalized. Right up the Old Guard's alley.
There is a silver lining -- silver on the Tree...
That silver is in the remembering.
Help them remember who they are.
From: Article - Obama Quietly Uses Executive Orders For Two New Gun Control Laws
http://www.mrconservative.com/2014/01/31501-obamas-gun-confiscation-begins/
Jerry Rogers · Top Commenter · Temple Baptist Academy
Mr.Conservative please stop e mailing me. This story is a lie. oblamer can pass all the exc.orders he wants to...federal law says American citizens dont have to obey exc. orders. So why worry about it? you dont have to do what oblamer says they just desperatly want you as USA citizens to believe that you do.
Reply · 1 · Like · 21 hours ago
Cyrellys Geibhendach · Founder at Compass Morainn
Hey Jerry, unfortunately your statement about not having to obey exc. orders is not true. There are two forms of government in this nation. The first is a surface government comprised of laws and those who abide governance by law. The other is a shadow government which operates via policy and is comprised of what is termed 'middle management', individuals who operate governance according to policy, governmental organizations, non-governmental organizations, public-private partnerships, and special access projects (SAPs or USAPs). None on this list operate according to laws, but rather move, assess, and conduct themselves according to policies lined out for them. Executive Orders are not laws. In that you are correct. But what they actually are is policies. The bulk of governance today operates under policy which is a 'color of law'. Policy is used to govern law and all operations where laws are grey or indirect. Today (last ten years) policy is being constructed to wholly supplant law. This is why the 'system' (government, governance, & associates) can order service members (any government employee or military service member) to operate according to their Oath but in that they mean allegiance to National Security, not allegiance to the Constitution. To the system inhabitants of this culture which has taken root in governance the Constitution is an outdated document and is only figuratively speaking. This enables them to what they please, when they please. There has been some very interesting dialogs in the back-channels this month with regards to 'policy'. It relates to public statements and confirmations made about US domestic and foreign policy. But unless you are up to stretching your mind into the realm of the fantastic you will continue to miss what is going on in the fringe of the situational landscape. It is, however, a distinct part of what is going on right now, and why some factions are doing what they are doing. If you like a good easter egg hunt visit my blog Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things to find out more. It'll take some reading and connecting 2&2. Telling you outright would only shut your thought faculty down so you'll have to do your homework if you really want to know. Keep your powder dry. The criminal end of this mess is playing for keeps; but then so are the good guys. Salute.
To add:
You can violate the globalist policies and if it is in close proximity to an operating organization or if they think you a high enough priority, they will (if you are lucky) haul you into the court system and strip you of your financial security, various assets like guns, property, even your children and anything else that suits them. Those may not be laws, but control is in the eye of the one who controls the operation. You the citizen no longer control the operations of governance. It has, while you slept silently abrogating your self-governance responsibilities within the balance of power designed by the founders, been stripped from you.
Your only options are a. bend and obey, or b. take your nation back physically removing all aspects of the mutagenic takeover. Peripheral options include doing what you see me doing here, piecing it together and taking verbal chunks out of the corruption, with an innate expectation there are still real Oath-Keepers inside the system who operate according to the original intent of the founders, like what happened during the Dyess AFB event September of 2013.
Cy
http://www.mrconservative.com/2014/01/31501-obamas-gun-confiscation-begins/
Jerry Rogers · Top Commenter · Temple Baptist Academy
Mr.Conservative please stop e mailing me. This story is a lie. oblamer can pass all the exc.orders he wants to...federal law says American citizens dont have to obey exc. orders. So why worry about it? you dont have to do what oblamer says they just desperatly want you as USA citizens to believe that you do.
Reply · 1 · Like · 21 hours ago
Cyrellys Geibhendach · Founder at Compass Morainn
Hey Jerry, unfortunately your statement about not having to obey exc. orders is not true. There are two forms of government in this nation. The first is a surface government comprised of laws and those who abide governance by law. The other is a shadow government which operates via policy and is comprised of what is termed 'middle management', individuals who operate governance according to policy, governmental organizations, non-governmental organizations, public-private partnerships, and special access projects (SAPs or USAPs). None on this list operate according to laws, but rather move, assess, and conduct themselves according to policies lined out for them. Executive Orders are not laws. In that you are correct. But what they actually are is policies. The bulk of governance today operates under policy which is a 'color of law'. Policy is used to govern law and all operations where laws are grey or indirect. Today (last ten years) policy is being constructed to wholly supplant law. This is why the 'system' (government, governance, & associates) can order service members (any government employee or military service member) to operate according to their Oath but in that they mean allegiance to National Security, not allegiance to the Constitution. To the system inhabitants of this culture which has taken root in governance the Constitution is an outdated document and is only figuratively speaking. This enables them to what they please, when they please. There has been some very interesting dialogs in the back-channels this month with regards to 'policy'. It relates to public statements and confirmations made about US domestic and foreign policy. But unless you are up to stretching your mind into the realm of the fantastic you will continue to miss what is going on in the fringe of the situational landscape. It is, however, a distinct part of what is going on right now, and why some factions are doing what they are doing. If you like a good easter egg hunt visit my blog Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things to find out more. It'll take some reading and connecting 2&2. Telling you outright would only shut your thought faculty down so you'll have to do your homework if you really want to know. Keep your powder dry. The criminal end of this mess is playing for keeps; but then so are the good guys. Salute.
To add:
You can violate the globalist policies and if it is in close proximity to an operating organization or if they think you a high enough priority, they will (if you are lucky) haul you into the court system and strip you of your financial security, various assets like guns, property, even your children and anything else that suits them. Those may not be laws, but control is in the eye of the one who controls the operation. You the citizen no longer control the operations of governance. It has, while you slept silently abrogating your self-governance responsibilities within the balance of power designed by the founders, been stripped from you.
Your only options are a. bend and obey, or b. take your nation back physically removing all aspects of the mutagenic takeover. Peripheral options include doing what you see me doing here, piecing it together and taking verbal chunks out of the corruption, with an innate expectation there are still real Oath-Keepers inside the system who operate according to the original intent of the founders, like what happened during the Dyess AFB event September of 2013.
Cy
Chief of Police Harassed by Feds, Placed on Leave After Signing Pledge to Uphold Constitution
http://www.infowars.com/chief-of-police-harassed-by-feds-fired-after-signing-pledge-to-uphold-constitution/
MYRA OR THEIRRA? WHOSE MONEY IS IT, REALLY? Many American's cheered the President's speech wildly as he spoke about how he will be disregarding even Congress and just instituting all manners of laws and crazy socialist schemes at whim like a dictator.
http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2014/1/30/myra-or-theirra-whose-money-is-it-really.html
AMERICA’S FIRST DICTATOR’: BECK EXPLODES OVER PRESIDENT OBAMA’S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS
http://countdowntozerotime.com/2014/01/31/americas-first-dictator-beck-explodes-over-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address/
Dear Mr. Security Agent :For widespread distribution, more cutting-edge commentary from Matt Bracken, former SEAL and author of the Enemies Foreign and Domestic trilogy, along with his most recent novel, Castigo Cay:
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2014/01/31/repost-bracken-dear-mr-security-agent/#comment-65530
It's not just policy declarations and confirmations that are happening in January 2014. Cy
By Paul E. Vallely – Major General, US Army Ret., CEO Stand Up America US (SUA)
Paul E. Vallely, MG US Army Ret.
Our Federal Government continues down the path of destroying America. American Patriots must now Stand UP and put America back on the track. The Federal Government has not subsided in “sucking the oxygen” out of America and its people with legislation and without required action to solve our problems
The National Call to Action of the people begins now! And we call to action all branches of government to do your constitutional duties and not be led astray in the cultural and moral decay of America. We have witnessed far too many lies, deception and corruption in the Republic.
Start immediately to cut the government bureaucracy and structure by 25%… Eliminate all unnecessary departments of Energy, Homeland Security, Education, the Federal Reserve and EPA and return the functions to the private sector and the states. Eliminate the IRS and institute a “fair or flat tax”. Initiate the relocation of the United Nations to Athens Greece or a third world country and cut back the funding of this corrupt and ineffective institution.
Implement an effective national security policy and “forward strategy to defend America’s interests against the threat of Shariah (Islamic law), a nuclear Iran and North Korea, and Islamic terror. Defend our borders and take on the onslaught of the drug cartels, illegal immigrants, and terrorists now pouring into our country.
Finally, pass term limits for Congress, Eliminate all earmarks and pass state assistance programs in one piece of legislation yearly. Balance the budget and move to a more effective Federal Reserve System or eliminate it all together. Slice deeply all foreign aid programs to countries not deserving of our good will. All countries must earn our aid so they will start off with a zero balance each year. Stop the military out of ‘Nation Building’ but ensure we fight to win the battles we must.
I could go on with many other recommendations to get our country back on track. The above is just a taste of what can be done! Disallow all lobbyists and special interests groups. You politicians, the President and all the Federal and State Bureaucracies work only for the People, no one else!
You see, we do not need you other than to represent us, the People, and abide by and protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Declaration of Independence states: “To secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness.
“I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.” From the Poem “Invictus” by English poet William Ernest Henley (1849–1903) that was penned in 1875.
Yes, America, WE are the Masters of our Fate and the Captains of our Soul.” on burns and self-destructs before our very eyes but now you are starting to awaken.
The majority of the country and its citizens have experienced and seen our inept and incompetent leadership In Washington!
The battle is on and we shall not retreat.
We will not permit the leaders in the White House and Halls of Congress to lead us down a road of Progressive Socialism and destruction of the Republic. The Patriotic Revolution that I forecasted well over a year ago is happening now.
We Constitutionalists face a battle that is unknown to our generations so we must be aggressive in our collective efforts to continue to turn back the tide. The Fate of the country is now in our hands and the plea from the majority of our citizens is to enforce the Constitution, severely limit the Federal Government and it’s out of control spending. There is a growing list of documented violations of the Constitution and their Oath of Office by current elected and appointed government officials
Lincoln issued this warning in his inaugural address, “Any peo ple anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one. This is a most valuable and sacred right – a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.”
Being a representative republic, not a democracy, and “rising up” means other than revolution by use of arms. The people must “rise up” (Stand Up) from the grass roots across this great country as we think of the greater good of this and future generations. We are limited in the peaceful transfer of power…resignation, elections, and impeachment. That is why the Patriotic Revolution and Patriotic Union must take place to ensure survival of the Union.
The oath is simple and reads: “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”
Sadly, we have seen them violate their oath. Fraud, lying, and corruption are rampant and some have engaged in treasonous activities, and they effectively thumb their noses at us and have sold you to the highest bidder.
The Articles of Confederation were replaced with the Constitution, which granted the federal government enough authority to cultivate, promote and secure the Blessings of Liberty. The balance of authority and individual liberty was understood. Power was confined to that which was enumerated in the Constitution with a certain and meaningful intent for check and balances. We must make it a local imperative and movement….of the People…by the People… and For the People.
“We, the People” have had enough. Enough is Enough. The Obama White House and identifiable Members of Congress must now depart from a progressive socialist and treasonous death march and bankrupting the country beyond expectations. We have watched them violate their sacred oath of office. “We, the People” cannot solely depend on the results of the elections.
It is now that many of these public servants (and you know who they are) must put the people and country interests above self-interest by resigning and stepping down immediately. A civil uprising is still not out of the question as “pain” grips the country more each day. Hopefully, our future will reflect the citizens changed the tide in a peaceful way.
This means raising your voice now to your neighbors, family, co-workers, and friends. Be the Captains of your Souls. I pray for another George Washington to appear within the year and lead us. This is a National Call to Action.
****
Sources Confirm Obama Purging Military Commanders
Author Sara Carter joins Andrew Wilkow to discuss Obama’s alarming purge of top military commanders…
****
Posted by Notanobamabot in Exclusive: Feds Threatening Michigan Family Farm With Armed Raid.
I had a dream the other night I didn’t understand,
A figure walking through the mist, with flintlock in his hand.
His clothes were torn and dirty, as he stood there by my bed,
He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low he said:
We fought a revolution to secure our liberty,
We wrote the Constitution, as a shield from tyranny.
For future generations, this legacy we gave,
In this, the land of the free and home of the brave.
The freedom we secured for you, we hoped you’d always keep,
But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep.
Your freedom gone – your courage lost – you’re no more than a slave,
In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave.
You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun,
Permits to start a business, or to build a place for one.
On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent,
Although you have no voice in choosing how the money’s spent.
Your children must attend a school that doesn’t educate,
Your moral values can’t be taught, according to the state.
You read about the current “news” in a very biased press,
You pay a tax you do not owe, to please the IRS.
Your money is no longer made of silver or of gold,
You trade your wealth for paper, so life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our Nation turn from God to shame,
You’ve taken Satan’s number, as you’ve traded in your name.
You’ve given government control to those who do you harm,
So they can padlock churches, and steal the family farm.
And keep our country deep in debt, put men of God in jail,
Harass your fellow countryman while corrupted courts prevail.
Your public servants don’t uphold the solemn oath they’re sworn,
Your daughters visit doctors so children won’t be born.
Your leaders ship artillery and guns to foreign shores,
And send your sons to slaughter, fighting other people’s wars.
Can you regain your Freedom for which we fought and died?
Or don’t you have the courage, or the faith to stand with pride?
Are there no more values for which you’ll fight to save?
Or do you wish your children live in fear and be a slave?
Sons of the Republic, arise and take a stand!
Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land!
Preserve our Republic, and each God-given right!
And pray to god to keep the torch of freedom burning bright!
As I awoke he vanished, in the mist from whence he came,
His words were true, we are not free, and we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right,
We only watch and tremble – too afraid to stand and fight.
If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you’re asleep,
And wonder what remains of your right he fought to keep.
What would be your answer if he called out from the grave?
Is this still the land of the free and home of the brave?
Paul E. Vallely, MG US Army Ret.
Our Federal Government continues down the path of destroying America. American Patriots must now Stand UP and put America back on the track. The Federal Government has not subsided in “sucking the oxygen” out of America and its people with legislation and without required action to solve our problems
The National Call to Action of the people begins now! And we call to action all branches of government to do your constitutional duties and not be led astray in the cultural and moral decay of America. We have witnessed far too many lies, deception and corruption in the Republic.
Start immediately to cut the government bureaucracy and structure by 25%… Eliminate all unnecessary departments of Energy, Homeland Security, Education, the Federal Reserve and EPA and return the functions to the private sector and the states. Eliminate the IRS and institute a “fair or flat tax”. Initiate the relocation of the United Nations to Athens Greece or a third world country and cut back the funding of this corrupt and ineffective institution.
Implement an effective national security policy and “forward strategy to defend America’s interests against the threat of Shariah (Islamic law), a nuclear Iran and North Korea, and Islamic terror. Defend our borders and take on the onslaught of the drug cartels, illegal immigrants, and terrorists now pouring into our country.
Finally, pass term limits for Congress, Eliminate all earmarks and pass state assistance programs in one piece of legislation yearly. Balance the budget and move to a more effective Federal Reserve System or eliminate it all together. Slice deeply all foreign aid programs to countries not deserving of our good will. All countries must earn our aid so they will start off with a zero balance each year. Stop the military out of ‘Nation Building’ but ensure we fight to win the battles we must.
I could go on with many other recommendations to get our country back on track. The above is just a taste of what can be done! Disallow all lobbyists and special interests groups. You politicians, the President and all the Federal and State Bureaucracies work only for the People, no one else!
You see, we do not need you other than to represent us, the People, and abide by and protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Declaration of Independence states: “To secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness.
“I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul.” From the Poem “Invictus” by English poet William Ernest Henley (1849–1903) that was penned in 1875.
Yes, America, WE are the Masters of our Fate and the Captains of our Soul.” on burns and self-destructs before our very eyes but now you are starting to awaken.
The majority of the country and its citizens have experienced and seen our inept and incompetent leadership In Washington!
The battle is on and we shall not retreat.
We will not permit the leaders in the White House and Halls of Congress to lead us down a road of Progressive Socialism and destruction of the Republic. The Patriotic Revolution that I forecasted well over a year ago is happening now.
We Constitutionalists face a battle that is unknown to our generations so we must be aggressive in our collective efforts to continue to turn back the tide. The Fate of the country is now in our hands and the plea from the majority of our citizens is to enforce the Constitution, severely limit the Federal Government and it’s out of control spending. There is a growing list of documented violations of the Constitution and their Oath of Office by current elected and appointed government officials
Lincoln issued this warning in his inaugural address, “Any peo ple anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one. This is a most valuable and sacred right – a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.”
Being a representative republic, not a democracy, and “rising up” means other than revolution by use of arms. The people must “rise up” (Stand Up) from the grass roots across this great country as we think of the greater good of this and future generations. We are limited in the peaceful transfer of power…resignation, elections, and impeachment. That is why the Patriotic Revolution and Patriotic Union must take place to ensure survival of the Union.
The oath is simple and reads: “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”
Sadly, we have seen them violate their oath. Fraud, lying, and corruption are rampant and some have engaged in treasonous activities, and they effectively thumb their noses at us and have sold you to the highest bidder.
The Articles of Confederation were replaced with the Constitution, which granted the federal government enough authority to cultivate, promote and secure the Blessings of Liberty. The balance of authority and individual liberty was understood. Power was confined to that which was enumerated in the Constitution with a certain and meaningful intent for check and balances. We must make it a local imperative and movement….of the People…by the People… and For the People.
“We, the People” have had enough. Enough is Enough. The Obama White House and identifiable Members of Congress must now depart from a progressive socialist and treasonous death march and bankrupting the country beyond expectations. We have watched them violate their sacred oath of office. “We, the People” cannot solely depend on the results of the elections.
It is now that many of these public servants (and you know who they are) must put the people and country interests above self-interest by resigning and stepping down immediately. A civil uprising is still not out of the question as “pain” grips the country more each day. Hopefully, our future will reflect the citizens changed the tide in a peaceful way.
This means raising your voice now to your neighbors, family, co-workers, and friends. Be the Captains of your Souls. I pray for another George Washington to appear within the year and lead us. This is a National Call to Action.
****
Sources Confirm Obama Purging Military Commanders
Author Sara Carter joins Andrew Wilkow to discuss Obama’s alarming purge of top military commanders…
****
Posted by Notanobamabot in Exclusive: Feds Threatening Michigan Family Farm With Armed Raid.
I had a dream the other night I didn’t understand,
A figure walking through the mist, with flintlock in his hand.
His clothes were torn and dirty, as he stood there by my bed,
He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low he said:
We fought a revolution to secure our liberty,
We wrote the Constitution, as a shield from tyranny.
For future generations, this legacy we gave,
In this, the land of the free and home of the brave.
The freedom we secured for you, we hoped you’d always keep,
But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep.
Your freedom gone – your courage lost – you’re no more than a slave,
In this, the land of the free and the home of the brave.
You buy permits to travel, and permits to own a gun,
Permits to start a business, or to build a place for one.
On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent,
Although you have no voice in choosing how the money’s spent.
Your children must attend a school that doesn’t educate,
Your moral values can’t be taught, according to the state.
You read about the current “news” in a very biased press,
You pay a tax you do not owe, to please the IRS.
Your money is no longer made of silver or of gold,
You trade your wealth for paper, so life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our Nation turn from God to shame,
You’ve taken Satan’s number, as you’ve traded in your name.
You’ve given government control to those who do you harm,
So they can padlock churches, and steal the family farm.
And keep our country deep in debt, put men of God in jail,
Harass your fellow countryman while corrupted courts prevail.
Your public servants don’t uphold the solemn oath they’re sworn,
Your daughters visit doctors so children won’t be born.
Your leaders ship artillery and guns to foreign shores,
And send your sons to slaughter, fighting other people’s wars.
Can you regain your Freedom for which we fought and died?
Or don’t you have the courage, or the faith to stand with pride?
Are there no more values for which you’ll fight to save?
Or do you wish your children live in fear and be a slave?
Sons of the Republic, arise and take a stand!
Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land!
Preserve our Republic, and each God-given right!
And pray to god to keep the torch of freedom burning bright!
As I awoke he vanished, in the mist from whence he came,
His words were true, we are not free, and we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right,
We only watch and tremble – too afraid to stand and fight.
If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you’re asleep,
And wonder what remains of your right he fought to keep.
What would be your answer if he called out from the grave?
Is this still the land of the free and home of the brave?
I changed my mind about not posting this following watch item. When I first thought about it, didn't ring any bells...then I noticed the "Denver" stamp on the originating envelope.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/superbowl-false-flag-treasonbowl-letter-sent-to-before-its-news-2882682.html?utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FdRhe&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info
Something else gave me pause to look twice - a certain statement:
"NSA has always done psycho activities, and blamed the CIA for most of it."
Factional infighting?
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/01/superbowl-false-flag-treasonbowl-letter-sent-to-before-its-news-2882682.html?utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FdRhe&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info
Something else gave me pause to look twice - a certain statement:
"NSA has always done psycho activities, and blamed the CIA for most of it."
Factional infighting?
ROFL we're arguing about a detail within a joke today in homeschool...joke starts off:
Why did the chicken haul mach turkey across the road?
Answer: because Master Chief (Halo) was on the other side behind him yelling "Kentucky Fried CHICKEN!!!" with a spartan laser (instant fried chicken in one blast).
The argument was over which weapon was the most knarly. Oldest son says Bineary Rifle - forerunner tech weapon; disintegrates on contact. Oldest daughter say, not if he's going to eat that chicken...she say its the Grunt Needler which can track the target, if you shoot 'em enough it explodes (chicken nuggets), and beyond all else it is PINK!
Me personally, I'm into experimental foods....capture chicken live and launch 'im out a potato gun. Chicken Frickasee.
Cy
Reserve option: the BFG. Stew.
Edit to add: anyone who follows the Halo story line knows the fan theory about Spartan II Soldiers is that they are fed bio-engineered supplement pills so they wouldn't have to eat, use the bathroom in battle etc....
So what's he doing chasing chickens?
Well he IS the sole surviving Spartan II Soldier of all his generation, taking on the bad guys (Advanced Forerunner Defense A.I. + Covenant)...
The Librarian did modify his genetics at the final stage of his evolution...the chickens were a necessary component.
Cy
Why did the chicken haul mach turkey across the road?
Answer: because Master Chief (Halo) was on the other side behind him yelling "Kentucky Fried CHICKEN!!!" with a spartan laser (instant fried chicken in one blast).
The argument was over which weapon was the most knarly. Oldest son says Bineary Rifle - forerunner tech weapon; disintegrates on contact. Oldest daughter say, not if he's going to eat that chicken...she say its the Grunt Needler which can track the target, if you shoot 'em enough it explodes (chicken nuggets), and beyond all else it is PINK!
Me personally, I'm into experimental foods....capture chicken live and launch 'im out a potato gun. Chicken Frickasee.
Cy
Reserve option: the BFG. Stew.
Edit to add: anyone who follows the Halo story line knows the fan theory about Spartan II Soldiers is that they are fed bio-engineered supplement pills so they wouldn't have to eat, use the bathroom in battle etc....
So what's he doing chasing chickens?
Well he IS the sole surviving Spartan II Soldier of all his generation, taking on the bad guys (Advanced Forerunner Defense A.I. + Covenant)...
The Librarian did modify his genetics at the final stage of his evolution...the chickens were a necessary component.
Cy
Pertaining to history and a discussion on the early American flags (in particular the naval flag white with green pine tree): The story of the first act of war in the American Revolution....it wasn't the shot heard round the world in Lexington. It the act of the smallest of the colonies which served to teach the colonies they were capable of united action and how to accomplish it.
1772 Rhode Island Attack on the British Navy armed schooner Gaspee
http://www.gaspee.info/history/GaspeeStory.htm
http://www.gaspee.info/history/GaspeeStory02.htm
Now you may ask what does this story have to do with conspiracy theory and extraterrestrial contact?
Because the soul of a nation erupted in proximity to and in conjunction with the roots of an ancient culture buried within the colonies; a holdover from a time so long ago, a world no longer remembers it was a technological civilization once before, and then lost it all. And because that nation was imbued with a construct that was to do more than simply uphold a principled people - it was to build experience and set the stage for a mature advance of reasonable conduct into a paradigm we face today - a paradigm filled with questions about globalism, ourselves, and the future.
What if I told you the seeds of a positive type template for global govenance was hidden within an intemperate people, a nation of self-starters; a Republic which would face incredible odds more than once. What if I told you there was more to the philosophy of natural rights than you were taught in your history book and that it was intertwined with a future that would face unambiguous extraterrestrial contact?
What if I told you, that you need to remember who you are?
1772 Rhode Island Attack on the British Navy armed schooner Gaspee
http://www.gaspee.info/history/GaspeeStory.htm
http://www.gaspee.info/history/GaspeeStory02.htm
Now you may ask what does this story have to do with conspiracy theory and extraterrestrial contact?
Because the soul of a nation erupted in proximity to and in conjunction with the roots of an ancient culture buried within the colonies; a holdover from a time so long ago, a world no longer remembers it was a technological civilization once before, and then lost it all. And because that nation was imbued with a construct that was to do more than simply uphold a principled people - it was to build experience and set the stage for a mature advance of reasonable conduct into a paradigm we face today - a paradigm filled with questions about globalism, ourselves, and the future.
What if I told you the seeds of a positive type template for global govenance was hidden within an intemperate people, a nation of self-starters; a Republic which would face incredible odds more than once. What if I told you there was more to the philosophy of natural rights than you were taught in your history book and that it was intertwined with a future that would face unambiguous extraterrestrial contact?
What if I told you, that you need to remember who you are?
Addendum to prior post:
Sir David
7:31 PM (4 hours ago)
to
Here is something for all the dumb sheople out there, who worship or give allegiance to this worthless piece of cloth. Bowing thereto and become British Crown subjects or slaves.
I believe the Scriptures mentions something about those, who worshiping wood, hay and stubble.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: Familiar Flag Designs
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:32:31 -0500
From: robert blanchard
To: sirdavid@sirdavidandrew.com
Begin forwarded message:
From:
Subject: Familiar Flag Designs
Reply-To:
(British) East India Company flag.
After 1801:
Flag of the British East
India Company (1801).svg
The East India Company supposed went out of business in 1858. I wonder what replaced it?
It looks even more familiar if you place 50 stars with a blue background in the canton.
Flag of the United States
of America
[ltr]That is only a small fraction of the story. There was more involved in the creation of this nation that the corporate elements, masons, and abused colonists. There was something else, which you will not find in the history books because its support of a 'third option' was conditional on anonymity. You may see its reflections in the writings of Thomas Paine. The soul of this nation is akin to a human soul in that it was created through a multifaceted lens. It has both altruistic potential and sociopathic tendencies. Which way it goes depends upon the memory of its people. If all you remember is what you sent in your email, then you only remember a fraction. You see only the foul. There was and still is good within. Look to the tree, "The Appeal to Heaven." We were there, it was our flag and we flew it when the fledgling nation called out for assistance defense of her shores and left it for them when we relocated to the far west. A reminder for we realized memory is short. Today you, among so many, speak of watering the tree of Life with the blood of tyrants and despots. But you don't remember where you learned it or what it meant or how far it has travelled.
I will tell you a story. It is a small piece of a multi-millenial saga which is my inheritance from my fam. That story is of the roots of a white flag with a green tree, and three gentlemen who for the sake of mankind's potential sought out the libraries of Old Irish to better understand natural rights, and other concepts which later became part of who and what this nation was designed to be...something aside from what the corporatists sought; something so few think about outside of the liberty community who are so close to that piece of truth as to be the prodigal son's of the Old Irish. But first a small reminder from those days:
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There are those out there who are so caught up in the arguments over legal linguistics that they are forgetting the spirit embued in the 'Third Option'. Yes, there has been much twisting over the many years since the creation of this country was hammered out of an unpleasant and unreconcilable situation. But there are things you do not yet know. Such as the involvement of the Source (you say God) through its hand Synchronicity...a continuation of the work of its Son. A small world of People who had the temerity to try to envision a better life...but even then their groups could not come together for their differences and ingrained arguments, some of which self-serving, others stubbornly altruistic to the highest degree. A small world who would over the following years need an example of human potential, fully functioning and laying a groundwork for something even further abroad in time. Something they might achieve if they can avoid self-destruct. These were part of the creation of the Third Option. The Third Option was to create a template that might foster something greater in the world than the Old World of Europe could hope to offer. This does not guarantee its success, only relate what was there besides the ill repute you so often equate.
This potential is still extant. And the shadow of the Old Irish is still abroad in the land and its people in ways most do not realize. It is in an oath taken to uphold a document that represents those principles, not simply the words. Sometimes it is not the detail which is arguable that matters most but rather the root and the soul beneath.
Now about that story. The root and soul of that tree. It came with the fams when they took english name to hide their identities and relocated in the new world beginning with Laconia. It flew from our ships who's captains and navigators and many a crewman were son's of ours. And our libraries opened their dusty tombs to three men who held those highest of principles and sought to instill them in what was to come. To remind a people not only who they are, but in so remembering, realizing who they might yet be. And when Washington called for the defense of the coasts, our privateers lent the weight of their sails with the flag we knew as our own. And when all was done, it was left for them to become a part of their new won history. That tree, is ancient beyond most modern men's kenning. It came as a symbol of life and liberty, home with the ancients when they returned to Eire after the cataclysm which was both man-made and a product of nature. You see, we've fought a global war for truth, life, and liberty before. No one really won it. Great devastation was its outcome. And it took more than a millennia to recover. A planet was forever changed in that war. And it was those who fought for those ancient principles, who swore to never see such happen again; who did everything in their power to preserve the potential of mankind; who struggled through a primitive aftermath to keep the Dream alive. And they carried it to the New World when they fled the Isle that had sheltered them so long. And they kept it alive on their ships and in the nautical navigation by the stars which so many ancestors spent their lifetimes building and remapping via massive stone measuring calendars across the Isles and Europe taking meticulous measurements with mathematics we've only recently rediscovered.
You see we are a post apocalyptic world on the rebound and it is our GEIS to be here to guide, uplift, and block the corruption and inequity which would once more tear every and everyone apart. It needs to be restored to memory, that there is more to this than arguments over the twisting of terminology to entrap and enslave. There is something else built in, which the corporatists could not prevent. It is this which must be restored. Within the Tree lies mankind's Potential...the same Potential, Jesus' teachings sought to foster and kindle and mold.
It takes different types of constructs to build a Dream. A set of principles to live by is one. A nation for the People, of the People, by the People is another.
And last is Soul. If you can imagine it, you can attain it, for that is an inherent quality in Soul, as is free will to be good in nature, because being good is more worthy than fading into inequity. These things might seem so small and inconsequential. But what is the value of remembering who we are and where we have been? What is the value of introspection?
Yes a striped flag is only a small part of the story. There was in addition an 'Appeal to God'. And that answer was given in a new facet of the Dream. And that facet was a Third Option. It was and still is our responsibility to hold on to what was secured. And if it should falter or become bent, then it is for us to stand it upright once more.
I pledge allegiance to the flag (a set of ideals) of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation under (Appeal to) God, indivisible (multiple groups within pulling toward one goal mankind's Potential), with Liberty (Liberty Tree; Tree of Life) and Justice (root of Justice is Old Irish based on the concept of Excellence) for All (any individual and group who will accept this goal).
I don't bend knee to any flag. The only knee I bend is before the Source and its Third Option.
Salute![/ltr]
Sir David
7:31 PM (4 hours ago)
to
Here is something for all the dumb sheople out there, who worship or give allegiance to this worthless piece of cloth. Bowing thereto and become British Crown subjects or slaves.
I believe the Scriptures mentions something about those, who worshiping wood, hay and stubble.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: Familiar Flag Designs
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 11:32:31 -0500
From: robert blanchard
To: sirdavid@sirdavidandrew.com
Begin forwarded message:
From:
Subject: Familiar Flag Designs
Reply-To:
(British) East India Company flag.
After 1801:
Flag of the British East
India Company (1801).svg
The East India Company supposed went out of business in 1858. I wonder what replaced it?
It looks even more familiar if you place 50 stars with a blue background in the canton.
Flag of the United States
of America
| 9:43 PM (2 hours ago) | |||
[ltr]That is only a small fraction of the story. There was more involved in the creation of this nation that the corporate elements, masons, and abused colonists. There was something else, which you will not find in the history books because its support of a 'third option' was conditional on anonymity. You may see its reflections in the writings of Thomas Paine. The soul of this nation is akin to a human soul in that it was created through a multifaceted lens. It has both altruistic potential and sociopathic tendencies. Which way it goes depends upon the memory of its people. If all you remember is what you sent in your email, then you only remember a fraction. You see only the foul. There was and still is good within. Look to the tree, "The Appeal to Heaven." We were there, it was our flag and we flew it when the fledgling nation called out for assistance defense of her shores and left it for them when we relocated to the far west. A reminder for we realized memory is short. Today you, among so many, speak of watering the tree of Life with the blood of tyrants and despots. But you don't remember where you learned it or what it meant or how far it has travelled.
I will tell you a story. It is a small piece of a multi-millenial saga which is my inheritance from my fam. That story is of the roots of a white flag with a green tree, and three gentlemen who for the sake of mankind's potential sought out the libraries of Old Irish to better understand natural rights, and other concepts which later became part of who and what this nation was designed to be...something aside from what the corporatists sought; something so few think about outside of the liberty community who are so close to that piece of truth as to be the prodigal son's of the Old Irish. But first a small reminder from those days:
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[ltr]Documentation on the Continental Navy Jack
The Pine Tree Flag
Col. Joseph Reed to Col. John Glover and Stephen Moylan, 20 October 1775,referring to Washington's fleet of schooners: "Please to fix upon some particular Colour for a Flag--& a Signal, by which our vessels may know one another—What do you think of a Flag with a White Ground, a Tree in the Middle-the Motto (Appeal to Heaven)-This is the Flag of our floating Batteries."
Sir Hugh Palliser to Lord Sandwich, 6 January 1776, referring to the flag of the captured brig Washington, of George Washington's fleet: "Captain Medows has brought the American vessel's colours, it is a white field with a green pine tree in the middle: the motto, Appeal to Heaven."
The Massachusetts General Court established the flag of the state navy on 26 July 1776: "that the Colours be a white Flagg, with a green Pine Tree, and an Inscription, "Appeal to Heaven.'"
The Pine Tree and Rattlesnake in Combination
Journal of John Greenwood, midshipman in American privateer Cumberland, captured by HMS Pomona, 26 January 1778: The Cumberland's colors were "a very large white flag, with a green pine tree painted in the middle of it, beneath which was represented a large black snake in thirteen coils and cut into as many pieces, emblematic of the thirteen United States; under the snake, in black letters, was the motto-"Join or Die.'"
"A strange flag has lately appeared in our seas, bearing a pine tree with the portraiture of a rattlesnake coiled up at its roots, with these daring words, "Don't tread on me." We learn that the vessels bearing this flag have a sort of commission from a society of people at Philadelphia calling themselves the continental Congress.""A contemporary English writer," quoted without citation in David Eggenberger, Flags of the U.S.A. (New York: Thomas Y. Crowell, 1959), p. 25.
State and Merchant Flags of the United States
American Commissioners in France Benjamin Franklin and John Adams to the ambassador of Naples at the Court of France, 9 October 1778: "Some of the States have vessels of war distinct from those of the United States. For example, the vessels of war of the state of Massachusetts Bay have sometimes a pine tree; and those of the state of South Carolina a rattlesnake in the middle of thirteen stripes. Merchant ships have often only thirteen stripes, but the flag of the United States ordained by Congress is the thirteen stripes and the thirteen stars above described."
There are those out there who are so caught up in the arguments over legal linguistics that they are forgetting the spirit embued in the 'Third Option'. Yes, there has been much twisting over the many years since the creation of this country was hammered out of an unpleasant and unreconcilable situation. But there are things you do not yet know. Such as the involvement of the Source (you say God) through its hand Synchronicity...a continuation of the work of its Son. A small world of People who had the temerity to try to envision a better life...but even then their groups could not come together for their differences and ingrained arguments, some of which self-serving, others stubbornly altruistic to the highest degree. A small world who would over the following years need an example of human potential, fully functioning and laying a groundwork for something even further abroad in time. Something they might achieve if they can avoid self-destruct. These were part of the creation of the Third Option. The Third Option was to create a template that might foster something greater in the world than the Old World of Europe could hope to offer. This does not guarantee its success, only relate what was there besides the ill repute you so often equate.
This potential is still extant. And the shadow of the Old Irish is still abroad in the land and its people in ways most do not realize. It is in an oath taken to uphold a document that represents those principles, not simply the words. Sometimes it is not the detail which is arguable that matters most but rather the root and the soul beneath.
Now about that story. The root and soul of that tree. It came with the fams when they took english name to hide their identities and relocated in the new world beginning with Laconia. It flew from our ships who's captains and navigators and many a crewman were son's of ours. And our libraries opened their dusty tombs to three men who held those highest of principles and sought to instill them in what was to come. To remind a people not only who they are, but in so remembering, realizing who they might yet be. And when Washington called for the defense of the coasts, our privateers lent the weight of their sails with the flag we knew as our own. And when all was done, it was left for them to become a part of their new won history. That tree, is ancient beyond most modern men's kenning. It came as a symbol of life and liberty, home with the ancients when they returned to Eire after the cataclysm which was both man-made and a product of nature. You see, we've fought a global war for truth, life, and liberty before. No one really won it. Great devastation was its outcome. And it took more than a millennia to recover. A planet was forever changed in that war. And it was those who fought for those ancient principles, who swore to never see such happen again; who did everything in their power to preserve the potential of mankind; who struggled through a primitive aftermath to keep the Dream alive. And they carried it to the New World when they fled the Isle that had sheltered them so long. And they kept it alive on their ships and in the nautical navigation by the stars which so many ancestors spent their lifetimes building and remapping via massive stone measuring calendars across the Isles and Europe taking meticulous measurements with mathematics we've only recently rediscovered.
You see we are a post apocalyptic world on the rebound and it is our GEIS to be here to guide, uplift, and block the corruption and inequity which would once more tear every and everyone apart. It needs to be restored to memory, that there is more to this than arguments over the twisting of terminology to entrap and enslave. There is something else built in, which the corporatists could not prevent. It is this which must be restored. Within the Tree lies mankind's Potential...the same Potential, Jesus' teachings sought to foster and kindle and mold.
It takes different types of constructs to build a Dream. A set of principles to live by is one. A nation for the People, of the People, by the People is another.
And last is Soul. If you can imagine it, you can attain it, for that is an inherent quality in Soul, as is free will to be good in nature, because being good is more worthy than fading into inequity. These things might seem so small and inconsequential. But what is the value of remembering who we are and where we have been? What is the value of introspection?
Yes a striped flag is only a small part of the story. There was in addition an 'Appeal to God'. And that answer was given in a new facet of the Dream. And that facet was a Third Option. It was and still is our responsibility to hold on to what was secured. And if it should falter or become bent, then it is for us to stand it upright once more.
I pledge allegiance to the flag (a set of ideals) of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation under (Appeal to) God, indivisible (multiple groups within pulling toward one goal mankind's Potential), with Liberty (Liberty Tree; Tree of Life) and Justice (root of Justice is Old Irish based on the concept of Excellence) for All (any individual and group who will accept this goal).
I don't bend knee to any flag. The only knee I bend is before the Source and its Third Option.
Salute![/ltr]
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Rothschild Family Dynasty: Rare Media Articles Reveal Wealth, Influence of Rothschilds
PEERS: WantToKnow.info Email List
7:11 AM (3 hours ago)
to me
(snip)
"Rothschild's departure will leave a big gap, not least because it hosts the twice-daily gold price fixing. Started in 1919, it is a prized and bizarre tradition. Every day at 1030 and 1500 local time, five representatives of investment banks meet in a small room at Rothschild's London headquarters on St Swithin's Lane. They are charged by the London Gold Market to agree a price for the bullion on offer."
-- BBC News article revealing Rothschild family wealth and influence, 4/15/04
Dear friends,[ltr]
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[ltr]
Western Europe: New Elan in an Old Clan
1963-12-20, Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,938990,00.html
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The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty
2004-04-16, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070115044040/http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/th...
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Rothschild and Rockefeller families team up for some extra wealth creation
2012-05-30, The Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9300784/Roths...
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Rothschild to leave gold market
2004-04-15, BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3628971.stm
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Rothschilds to merge British and French banking operations to secure control
2012-04-05, The Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9189053/Roths...
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The Rothschilds and their 200 years of political influence
2008-10-23, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-rothschilds-and-their-200-y...
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The Man Who May Become the Richest Rothschild
2007-03-09, New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/business/09rothschild.html
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Transatlantic alliance between Rothschilds and Rockefellers for wealth management
2012-05-31, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/transatlantic-alliance-between...
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PEERS: WantToKnow.info Email List
7:11 AM (3 hours ago)
to me
(snip)
"Rothschild's departure will leave a big gap, not least because it hosts the twice-daily gold price fixing. Started in 1919, it is a prized and bizarre tradition. Every day at 1030 and 1500 local time, five representatives of investment banks meet in a small room at Rothschild's London headquarters on St Swithin's Lane. They are charged by the London Gold Market to agree a price for the bullion on offer."
-- BBC News article revealing Rothschild family wealth and influence, 4/15/04
Dear friends,
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The Rothschild family is considered by many with knowledge of deep politics to be one of the most, if not the most, influential families on our planet over the last few centuries. Yet the Rothschilds have consistently tried to keep their incredible power and influence secret over these years.
Though their influence has faded some in recent decades, the Rothschild family continues to enjoy tremendous amounts of wealth and power in a wide variety of concerns around the world. The collection of rare news articles below are among the few to cover some of the little-known activities of this secretive family.
Each excerpt from these articles on the Rothschild family is taken verbatim from the major media website listed at the link provided. If any link fails, click here. The most important sentences are highlighted. By educating ourselves and spreading the word, we can and will build a brighter future.
With best wishes for a transformed world,
Fred Burks for PEERS and WantToKnow.info
Fred Burks for PEERS and WantToKnow.info
Special note: For an excellent, highly educational essay on the power elite of our world and groups like the Rothschild family, click here. For ideas on what you can do to help build a brighter future, see the section at the end of this message.
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Western Europe: New Elan in an Old Clan
1963-12-20, Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,938990,00.html
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For seven generations, one European family has dominated an incredible part of all that money can buy. From its London and Paris banks, the family's millions have been sent forth to ... business enterprises on six continents. Some of its stately dwellings are the kind of mansions that mere San Simeons hoped to imitate. This ancient and unusual banking dynasty shields itself from the curious eye of the public, but the map and history of Europe have been changed by its action and etched with its name: the House of Rothschild. Seldom unimaginative in the use of their money, Rothschild gold has powered the ambitions of prime ministers, princes and popes. It has financed wars and reparations treaties, changed the course of politics and bailed out armies and nations. The Rothschilds strung railroads across the Continent, gained control of the Suez Canal [and] carved diamond mines in the African veld. The British Rothschilds [are still] the world's most important bullion dealers. No modern family ... has been so important for so long in European business. Newer dynasties such as the Rockefellers and the Fords have made more millions, but ... ledgers cannot reflect the Rothschild lands, their possessions and influence accumulated over the generations, their priceless collections of art. Today, the legend is very much alive—and being added to. The Rothschilds are striking out in many new directions behind a silver curtain of discretion. Rather than run companies by themselves, the Rothschilds often prefer to start or join syndicates, placing their men on boards to exert maximum influence with minimum investment risk. [They rely on] a far spreading network of agents, who seldom even admit that they are employed by the Rothschilds.
Note: To read the full, fascinating article, click here. The major media have very rarely exposed the power and wealth of the Rothschilds as in this article. Note that the article was written less than a month after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Could it be because of some anger at the elite who killed Kennedy that this highly revealing article was actually published? For more on secret societies which command huge hidden power, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sources available here.
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The Rothschild story: A golden era ends for a secretive dynasty
2004-04-16, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070115044040/http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/th...
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The news that the bankers Rothschild are to withdraw from the gold market, in which they have been a major player for two centuries, has been hailed as the end of an era. In one sense, of course, it is. But in another way it marks out the continuation of an even older tradition - the ability of the family which has founded one of the world's largest private banking dynasties to sustain their secretive fortune, which industry insiders count not in billions but in trillions, and keep it within the family. Secrecy has been a hallmark of the Rothschilds from the outset. The Rothschilds created the world of banking as we know it today. [They] invented, or at any rate popularised, the government bond, which allowed investors, big and small, to buy bits of the debts of sovereign states by purchasing fixed-interest bearer bonds. It brought investment in railways, the industrial revolution and ventures like the Suez Canal. The Rothschilds got a cut of everything. They made billions in the 1980s from Margaret Thatcher's privatisations of state-owned industries on which they advised. In France after their bank was nationalised by the Socialist president Francois Mitterrand they slowly built a new business which, under Baron David de Rothschild, has risen to the top ranks of the merger and acquisition league tables. They have pulled out of retail fund management - into which they went with much fanfare only three years back - and now they are pulling out of oil and gold in favour of the higher-margin areas of private banking and wealth management
Note: For some reason this article was removed from the website of the Independent, which is why the above link takes you to a cached version of this revealing article. For more on financial corruption, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sources available here.
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Rothschild and Rockefeller families team up for some extra wealth creation
2012-05-30, The Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9300784/Roths...
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The Rothschild and Rockefeller families have teamed up to buy assets from banks and other distressed sellers in a union between two of the best-known names in financial history. RIT Capital Partners, which is chaired by Lord Rothschild, has taken a 37pc stake in Rockefeller Financial Services, the family’s wealth advisory and asset management wing. It has snapped up the holding from French bank Société Générale for less than £100m. The transatlantic alliance cements a five-decade acquaintance between the now ennobled Jacob Rothschild, 76, and David Rockefeller, 96, the grandson of the ruthlessly acquisitive American oilman and philanthropist John D Rockefeller. The two patricians now plan to capitalise on their family names to buy other asset managers or their portfolios, using their networks of top-notch contacts to ensure they get a seat at the table for any deal. The Rockefeller group goes back to 1882, set up to invest the family money made by John D Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, the forerunner for today’s Exxon Corporation, which he built with a Darwinian aggression. “Do you know the only thing that gives me pleasure? It’s to see my dividends coming in,” he once said. The Rothschild banking dynasty has its roots in the 18th century when Mayer Amschel Rothschild set up a business in Frankfurt. That sprang to fame in 1815 when it bought government bonds in anticipation of Napoleon’s defeat at Waterloo.
Note: Why is that these two hugely wealthy families get so little press coverage? Could it be that their wealth and influence exerts control over the major media? For more on secret societies which command huge hidden power, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sources available here.
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Rothschild to leave gold market
2004-04-15, BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3628971.stm
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NM Rothschild, one of the City's oldest merchant banks, has decided that profit takes precedence over history and is to withdraw from London's gold market. The move is part of Rothschild's plans to halt all commodities trading out of London as it becomes less profitable. Last year, the business generated just 2.2% of the bank's income, down from more than 8% five years earlier. Rothschild's departure will leave a big gap, not least because it hosts the twice-daily gold price fixing. Started in 1919, it is a prized and bizarre tradition. Every day at 1030 and 1500 local time, five representatives of investment banks meet in a small room at Rothschild's London headquarters on St Swithin's Lane. They are charged by the London Gold Market to agree a price for the bullion on offer. Each sits behind a desk and gets a phone and small Union Jack. In the centre is the chairperson, who for the past 85 years has come from Rothschild. A price is given and relayed via phone lines to customers. Then the haggling begins. When the price is right and buyers are matched with sellers, the flags are lowered and the price is fixed. While the whole process harks to a bygone age, the economics of the modern gold market are far less quaint. Many producers are no longer hedging their exposure to both currency and commodity price movements and that has taken a large chunk of business off the table. According to bank chairman David de Rothschild, "our income from commodities trading in London has fallen as a percentage of our total income in each of the past five years".
Note: For more on commodity price rigging, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sources available here.
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Rothschilds to merge British and French banking operations to secure control
2012-04-05, The Telegraph (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9189053/Roths...
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The Rothschild dynasty is to merge its British and French banking operations to secure long-term control of the business and to boost the firm's financial strength ahead of the introduction of tougher capital requirements for banks. The 200-year-old banks will be reunited under a single shareholding that will bring together the fortunes of the French and English sides of the renowned family as they attempt to safeguard the business against the effects of new regulation and the fallout from the global financial crisis. Paris Orleans, the Rothschild Group's Paris-based holding company, will convert into a French limited partnership, securing the families' control of the bank against potential takeovers. The new partnership will then buy out minority investors in NM Rothschild & Sons, the UK business, as well as outstanding minority interests in the French operations. Paris Orleans has a market value of more than €500m (£415m) and is about 30pc owned by outside investors. The Rothschild Group employs 3,000 people in 42 countries and is one of the world's leading independent investment banks, advising some of the largest international companies on capital raisings and mergers and acquisitions. The bank also remains a player in the private equity industry and operates several merchant banking operations that invest directly in business across Europe and the rest of the world.
Note: For an index of all articles ever published by the New York Times on the Rothschild family, click here. For more on secret societies which command huge hidden power, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sourcesavailable here.
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The Rothschilds and their 200 years of political influence
2008-10-23, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-rothschilds-and-their-200-y...
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Nat Rothschild, the financier at the centre of allegations that threaten to engulf the shadow Chancellor, George Osborne, is no stranger to laws which forbid politicians from accepting donations from abroad. Political donations from overseas are also illegal in the US, where John McCain's campaign team is under investigation for allegedly accepting a benefit in kind from two mega-rich British citizens, namely Nat Rothschild and his father, Jacob, the Fourth Baron Rothschild. In April, Mr McCain passed through London and spoke at a fund-raising dinner for expatriate Americans, where seats at the cheapest tables cost £500 a head. What caught the eye of Judicial Watch, a Washington-based foundation dedicated to combating corruption, was that the event was held "by kind permission of Lord Rothschild and Hon Nathaniel Rothschild" at the family home in Spencer House, St James's, the only privately owned 17th-century palace in central London. The Rothschild family and politics have been intertwined for generations, ever since Nathan Rothschild, who founded the English branch of the family business, financed Britain's war against Napoleon two centuries ago. Serena Rothschild, Nat Rothschild's mother, was one of the largest individual donors to the Conservative Party last year. She gave £190,000. She has also helped fund Mr Osborne's office. When another member of the clan, Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, married the New York businesswoman Lynn Forester, they spent the night of their wedding dinner in the White House as guests of Bill Clinton. Lady Rothschild was a fund-raiser for the Democrats. So it is nothing new for a Rothschild to be mixing with prominent politicians.
Note: For more on secrecy in high places, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sources available here.
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The Man Who May Become the Richest Rothschild
2007-03-09, New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/09/business/09rothschild.html
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More than 200 years after Mayer Amschel Rothschild founded the family dynasty that offered discreet counsel and investment wisdom to kings, queens, emperors and industrial titans, his 35-year-old direct descendant, Nathaniel, has emerged as a kingmaker in his own right and an investor who some say may become the richest Rothschild of them all. In five short years, the man in line to be the fifth Baron Rothschild is close to becoming a billionaire. The ascent of Mr. Rothschild is a vivid illustration of how the still glittering, if somewhat faded, prestige and wealth of Europe’s most storied banking family has been reinvigorated from bold bets in this era’s new-money investment vehicles. Like his forebears, he prefers that his influence remain unseen. Mr. Rothschild is a principal adviser to Oleg Deripaska, one of the richest oligarchs in Russia and the owner of the aluminum giant Rusal, which recently merged with two other companies to create the world’s largest aluminum company. Mr. Rothschild received no public credit despite having played a crucial role in getting the deal done. He ... would not be interviewed for this article, yet he allowed his lushly renovated town house in Greenwich Village to be featured in Men’s Vogue magazine. With his mix of Old World politesse, a racy appreciation for fast times and the brute force of his accumulating wealth, Mr. Rothschild has become friend and adviser to many — including Russian billionaires, Indian steel magnates and a long list of people who have helped him out during his ascent. “There is a lot of power behind him, and like all the Rothschilds they use their power with discretion,” said Guy Wyser-Pratte, who has invested with Mr. Rothschild. “I expect him to uphold the family tradition.”
Note: For more on secret societies and groups in which the Rothschilds are suspected to play a large role, see the deeply revealing reports from reliable major media sources available here. For an index of all articles ever published by the New York Times on the Rothschild family, click here.
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Transatlantic alliance between Rothschilds and Rockefellers for wealth management
2012-05-31, The Independent (One of the UK's leading newspapers)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/transatlantic-alliance-between...
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As if they weren't already well-connected enough, the world's two greatest dynasties joined forces yesterday as Europe's Rothschild banking clan bought a stake in the Rockefeller group's wealth and asset management business to gain a foothold in the US. The patriarchs of the two families – 96-year-old David Rockefeller and Jacob Rothschild, 76 – cemented a five-decade acquaintance as the younger man's London-based £2bn RIT Capital investment trust bought a 37 per cent stake in the American's business. In addition to bringing together the two doyens, the deal will considerably expand the vast networks of both families. To give a taste: Lord Rothschild's son, Nat Rothschild, is a well-known entrepreneur with stakes in a range of companies such as Genel, the Kurdistan-focused oil producer ... and Bumi, the Indonesian mining group. He was also linked with George Osborne and Peter Mandelson at a notorious party on an oligarch's yacht off Corfu in 2008. Lord Rothschild's niece Kate is married to Ben Goldsmith, brother of Conservative MP Zac Goldsmith and Jemima Khan and son of the late billionaire business tycoon Sir James Goldsmith. On the Rockefeller side, for starters, David's granddaughter Ariana is a successful fashion designer who married the construction heir Matthew Bucklin in 2010. The Rothschilds bought the stake in Rockefeller from French banking group Société Générale for an undisclosed sum.
Note: For an index of all articles ever published by the New York Times on the Rothschild family, click here.
Some interesting things in the news on items I've been following here.
First Ernie is back in the headlines. This time as the unorganized militia in Montana steps forward on his behalf in his defense should the court system not uphold the same degree of adherence to law as it claims power over on citizens:
http://www.kbzk.com/videoplayer/?video_id=21360&categories=9%2C10%2C213%2C244%2C245%2C246%2C394%2C400
There is probably more to the story as MT news media tends to leave a good deal out of their reporting and report in a fashion that leaves the uninformed observer thinking its just a bunch of nutcases thinking craziness.
Quayle reports rising tensions in the general vicinity of Ernies battle...no confirmation on that as yet. I do however recall Elias hoping Ernie can be kept out of jail through this war of words and policy. Not much real law involved.
And on to the more recent dna testing of elongated skulls in Paracus, whose cranial skulls are 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than the human, findings came back non-human per the earlier mention by Brien Foerester, and now there is a more detailed article on the matter:
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/02/shocking-new-dna-evidence-released-today-proves-nephilim-and-scientists-are-stunned-video-and-photos-2458550.html
The only thing the scientist know for certain is that the skulls are not a result of cranial deformation.
and then last but not least,
...remember Dyess AFB ala Charleston Harbor, and a big boom picked up by the Russians in the deep water off the coast which resulted in a same day firing of two Generals and one Admiral in September? The original purpose being to get the US to go to war with Syria for the purpose of propping up the dollar, securing another wave of US military personnel overseas where they are out of the way, and setting the stage for their version of a biblical WWIII? Well, here we go again...this time via cyber attacks on Facebook and other sites to be blamed on the Syrians. Hopefully the 10th is not hip deep in this activity, helping it along? I'd be inclined to ask a certain recent addition to the NSA but that'd more than likely get someone fired, since they're supposed to be pretending to chase bad guys with no one the wiser? Are these valid questions?
See what happens when you drop yer drawers to national security in lieu of the Constitution? Every Tom Know-Nothing points at you when something similar to what you do goes down because the water is so muddy no one can tell who the criminals are or aren't anymore.
So someone hasn't quit trying to lock our guys up in the mid-east cess pit, so they can make good use of all the toys and facilities, and foreigners they've built up here.
http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/02/false-flag-happening-right-now-video-2450292.html
Hmmmm, are we having fun yet?
First Ernie is back in the headlines. This time as the unorganized militia in Montana steps forward on his behalf in his defense should the court system not uphold the same degree of adherence to law as it claims power over on citizens:
http://www.kbzk.com/videoplayer/?video_id=21360&categories=9%2C10%2C213%2C244%2C245%2C246%2C394%2C400
There is probably more to the story as MT news media tends to leave a good deal out of their reporting and report in a fashion that leaves the uninformed observer thinking its just a bunch of nutcases thinking craziness.
Quayle reports rising tensions in the general vicinity of Ernies battle...no confirmation on that as yet. I do however recall Elias hoping Ernie can be kept out of jail through this war of words and policy. Not much real law involved.
And on to the more recent dna testing of elongated skulls in Paracus, whose cranial skulls are 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than the human, findings came back non-human per the earlier mention by Brien Foerester, and now there is a more detailed article on the matter:
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/02/shocking-new-dna-evidence-released-today-proves-nephilim-and-scientists-are-stunned-video-and-photos-2458550.html
The only thing the scientist know for certain is that the skulls are not a result of cranial deformation.
and then last but not least,
...remember Dyess AFB ala Charleston Harbor, and a big boom picked up by the Russians in the deep water off the coast which resulted in a same day firing of two Generals and one Admiral in September? The original purpose being to get the US to go to war with Syria for the purpose of propping up the dollar, securing another wave of US military personnel overseas where they are out of the way, and setting the stage for their version of a biblical WWIII? Well, here we go again...this time via cyber attacks on Facebook and other sites to be blamed on the Syrians. Hopefully the 10th is not hip deep in this activity, helping it along? I'd be inclined to ask a certain recent addition to the NSA but that'd more than likely get someone fired, since they're supposed to be pretending to chase bad guys with no one the wiser? Are these valid questions?
See what happens when you drop yer drawers to national security in lieu of the Constitution? Every Tom Know-Nothing points at you when something similar to what you do goes down because the water is so muddy no one can tell who the criminals are or aren't anymore.
So someone hasn't quit trying to lock our guys up in the mid-east cess pit, so they can make good use of all the toys and facilities, and foreigners they've built up here.
http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/02/false-flag-happening-right-now-video-2450292.html
Hmmmm, are we having fun yet?
For anyone who missed it, John B Wells was fired from C2C. David Hodges does quite the dress down of C2C here: http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/02/06/john-b-wells-fired-for-being-too-popular-and-truthful-an-exclusive-interview/
Wells is starting his own show. Caravan to Midnight.
I missed it since I haven't been a listener since Bell sold out to the corporatist Premier/aka Clear Channel. The few shows I'd listened to were exactly as David describes. It was like C2C had been neutered. I'd heard good things about Wells and have seen him interviewed in a few places which was interesting but I never got around to returning to C2C myself.
Wells is starting his own show. Caravan to Midnight.
I missed it since I haven't been a listener since Bell sold out to the corporatist Premier/aka Clear Channel. The few shows I'd listened to were exactly as David describes. It was like C2C had been neutered. I'd heard good things about Wells and have seen him interviewed in a few places which was interesting but I never got around to returning to C2C myself.
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