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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Cy, the "Forbes" resource mentioned by Gary on Dan's thread is for " Forbes Magazine", not Fulford, who used to be the Chief Correspondent for Forbes Desk in Japan.
I know who Forbes is. I was contributing info from my neck of the woods you might not know about the guy behind Forbes Magazine. I know he's not Fulford.
Forbes is one of the most sophisticated members of the Liberty Movement.
Forbes is one of the most sophisticated members of the Liberty Movement.
Jake Reason wrote:It is commonly known in Ufology that the coming of the aliens auto-sparks the religions to think of the coming of their Messiah. And for many years there have been numerous whistle blowers speaking of, and reports telling of a False Christ High-Tech program to roll-out in concert with Disclosure.Cyrellys wrote:On 1+2= no presuming and I'm no ufologer. If you need a label it would be relatively accurate to call me a conspiracy theorist or alternative history person. But I really don't know the first thing about ufology. I don't collect or follow ufo sightings.
On google earth, yes I've known about that for over 13 years. I've related the story of the big storm in Omaha NE that dropped softball sized hail through the airplane wings at the airport and damaged most of the roofs in the city of there and Council Bluffs in 2001,
That's an interesting roofing story. I can well imagine the reaction to such a sales program in 2001
However considering your details.... Perhaps you simply lived in a city with a crisis, that the PtB decided to run a test balloon of Military Space Tech, to watch the public reaction.
Because in 2001 there was no technology with those capabilities available to the "surface world". And by 2007 even Google earth could not provide that quality of resolution - discerning roof shingles. Not even in the High-res areas of interest such as centers of International cities.
Even today, the resolution of the 2010 google earth stamp in downtown Toronto, is still not as high a resolution as being used in the country side of Montana - Oct 2013.
I've been flying Google Earth for many years. World -wide (even before they had the flying app). I can most often predict the graphic resolution I can expect for different areas of the world as I approach them. I've grown to understand the parameters they use to decide how long and deep a photo sweep they will invest in a particular area. Country-side/rural GE resolutions are virtually ALWAYS significantly lower definition than densely populated areas.
What I saw last night in Montana is as high definition as New York City, Seattle and San Fransisco. I just checked. That is, the Montana rural areas are that high def.
Not simply a "fresh scan".Considering the political situation in this country right now it doesn't surprise me in the least that they're doing some fresh scanning of Montana being this the Redoubt state.
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While I don't remember all the details of what program they were using to see the roofs, I do know it was "open source" at that time. One of the net saavy sales managers who also did work on our bidding and estimating software which our company had built from scratch using WYSIWYG at first and then moving it to Lotus, and later to Excel (I still have my lotus copy on a 3.5 disk somewhere around here collecting dust. ) Anyway he was savvy as I said. And definitely no mil or intel analyst since both he and his brother tended toward near disfunctionality in many ways and were long term members of our roofing 'family'. The patriarch who also dated my best friend for 15 years before settling for a cute blond in a custom made "mushroom-shaped" house with cedar shakes molded around the eaves not just to them, started off as a destitute roofer without two pennies to rub together who hustled butt and built his skill with roofing and managing the roughest rag tag bunch of installers in the construction industry into a company worth more than 10 million at the time I wandered away to do something different.
So I think the chances are slim the imaging was a beta test. I knew my guys a bit too well at the time. Now if the the beta test consisted of just releasing it into the net for the curious to find and see what they do with it, THAT is wholly plausible. The big boss was always coming up with hair-brained ideas. The whole roofing "family" was probably what any other human would think "certifiably" nuts if they'd seen us in action. I have some whopper of tales from back then. Everything from the guys taking off in the boom truck with the boom in the air and taking out all the electrical powerlines to the district of town the shop I was originally at...to riding material pallets at 55 mph tied behind estimators pickup trucks up the streets as if you were water skiing behind a boat...to having to pull a couple of coil nails out of one fellows paw with a set of pliers because he flat out would not go to a doctor even if we hog tied him. And that's just a sampling!
Anyway. I don't know of any official date for debut of any of this surveillance satellite technology. I only know it existed in 2001 just prior to the 9-11 event and I seen the printouts of the imaging of roofs in our target neighborhoods before the meeting and how the images could be used to produce an accurate estimate. They were functional enough for that purpose and for the potential purpose I suggested. Hense why I wouldn't have anything to do with it and neither would the other guys at the time. I was in Omaha through 9-11. I was on a two story 10/12 pitched roof with a female State Farm adjuster haggling over needed repairs listening to the morning news drone below us from her car radio when the interuption came of the planes hitting. We looked at each other and wondered if we should stop what we were doing race to our respective day care centers grab our kids and haul turkey out of town since Omaha technically would be a nice target if a shooting war broke out. At my apartment a few hours later I was on the balcony while all my room mates were gathered round the tv watching the chaos and seen Air Force One fly over head heading to Offut.
Later I ended up transferred to the Minneapolis shop for a local storm there and then to Des Moines to help set up a new construction focused shop working to establish it among a good-ol' boys club industry in that town. And I can attest that during those times the use of such technology in that manner never gained acceptance. That's all I can report.
Cy
Jake Reason wrote: I've grown to understand the parameters they use to decide how long and deep a photo sweep they will invest in a particular area. Country-side/rural GE resolutions are virtually ALWAYS significantly lower definition than densely populated areas.
What I saw last night in Montana is as high definition as New York City, Seattle and San Fransisco. I just checked. That is, the Montana rural areas are that high def.
Not simply a "fresh scan".Considering the political situation in this country right now it doesn't surprise me in the least that they're doing some fresh scanning of Montana being this the Redoubt state.
With little doubt. Yes I took note of all that. It says alot when reading between the lines too.
Cy
Switching from Dan's thread back to my own more comfortable roost after my Old Man Jaunt during rush hour, I was mentioning something I'd said to someone via email about Sorcha Faal whatdoesitmean.com being curious for that both parts of Sorcha Faal are old Irish yet attributed to russian IC. Whatever but I also mentioned synchronistic themes seem to run in sets so here's more of the Irish part....
Accenture is in Dublin now and guess what they're up to? Well, anyone remember Enron?
check this:
Shredding the layers of the ObamaCare onion
Image courtesy of Canada Free Press
17 January 2014: A few days ago, I was given a gift of sorts. It arrived in a plain manila envelope with no return address. Inside was a note that stated that I would know precisely what to do with the information this anonymous source provided. That source was indeed correct.
According to this benefactor of inside information, the electric bills of certain companies for the next billing cycle and employee overtime costs for the next pay schedule will be particularly high due to the cost of operating shredders and paying people to use them. Not just for physical shredding, but for the electronic erasure of documents, memos and e-mails pertaining to certain companies who played a supporting role in the establishment and roll-out of “ObamaCare” and the Healthcare.gov website. Moreover, this very task of document destruction is still taking place, which should serve as a red-phone call to congressional investigators who have not been financially enriched in the cronyism of ObamaCare.
Hopefully, those who are engaged in this frenzied shredding operation received their orders in writing and have taken extraordinary steps to safeguard their orders far beyond the company vault. For if history tells us anything, and it should, this menial but criminally significant task is almost always left to the “disposable” kind of employees where the blame always falls and a stint in prison leaves less of public stigma to other certain, high-value executives dictating the orders. It’s plausible deniability in action, or PD, as it is known in the tradecraft.
As always, though, the extent of the lies and corruption is much deeper than meets the eye. It takes a lot of peeling of the onion to get to the truth, and I’ve left a lot of onion skins on the floor by following the leads of my bipartisan, benevolent benefactor to bring forth this information.
It was just announced that the Obama White House is dropping CGI, Inc. next month when its contract with the U.S. federal government expires. Certain journalists and armchair sleuths with a peculiar penchant for political partisanship engaged in a frenzied frolic at the discovery of cronyism related to CGI. News that Toni Townes-Whitley, a senior executive at CGI Federal, was a college classmate of Michelle Obama at Princeton and visited the White House complex on several occasions was sufficient cause for celebration and provided entertaining fodder for the one-dimensional political pundits. CGI Federal ultimately secured a $678 million no-bid contract to build the ObamaCare website, and did so miserably. At least, that’s the government’s story, and they’re sticking to it. Yet that’s just the veneer of a much deeper, more nefarious scheme, especially when you look at its replacement.
The Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services recently announced that a company known as Accenture has been selected to become the lead contractor for HealthCare.gov. Research into CGI’s replacement found very interesting information about just who is rescuing the exchange that should leave everyone reading this less than relieved. You see, Accenture was previously known as Andersen Consulting, a corporate outgrowth of the Chicago-based accounting firm Arthur Andersen, LLP. If that name seems to ring a bell, it should.
Arthur Andersen, LLP became inextricably linked to the Texas-based energy giant Enron, as they provided made-to-order auditing services to Enron. Of course everybody remember Enron’s founder Kenneth Lay, a close friend of the Bush family dynasty and favorite whipping boy of the Progressives. Lay became the Progressive poster-child for graft and crony capitalism, but his knowledge of where the proverbial bodies were buried became cause for concern among those involved in the criminal enterprise, especially those close to the Oval Office.
Lay was ultimately convicted of 10 of the 11 counts of securities fraud and related charges in May of 2006. Before he could be sentenced or offer any information that could mitigate his sentence, however, Lay, age 64, died as a result of… a heart attack. Too many breakfasts of Eggs Benedict, or so we are to believe. A mere “fortuitous happenstance” for some.
Like the proverbial Phoenix, Arthur Andersen, LLP, or the core of the corporation, rose from the ashes of scandal and landed in Dublin, Ireland as Accenture. Of course, there are multiple steps in between, but I’ll spare the reader the task of onion peeling. Nonetheless, one might wonder if a portrait of the late Kenneth Lay bestows their offices, or at least some of the desks of the corporate execs there.
The transfer of responsibilities from CGI to Accenture to clean up the mess is an interesting one indeed. Perhaps CGI or other contractors and subcontractors could qualify for energy credits to mitigate the cost of their current power consumption. Or, perhaps some of the more informed members of the devout yet disposable support staff of the ObamaCare site should consider picking up a phone before they load more documents into the auto-feed paper tray of the company shredder.
There’s more… much more. But for now, perhaps the elected leaders in whom patriotic constitutionalist adherents to the right-left paradigm place so much of their faith could stop the destruction of documentation instead of merely putting on a useless display of public outrage. After all, such records may be necessary in a criminal trial, ala Enron.
The sooner people understand that ObamaCare has nothing to do with affordable health care, the better off we’ll all be. It’s all about consolidation and control, and the enrichment of a select few on the path to subjugation. The masks of the players might change, but they are still the same players in the game of ultimate control.
Source: http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10362
Accenture is in Dublin now and guess what they're up to? Well, anyone remember Enron?
check this:
Shredding the layers of the ObamaCare onion
Image courtesy of Canada Free Press
Please click here to discuss this article at Canada Free Press
By Douglas J. Hagmann17 January 2014: A few days ago, I was given a gift of sorts. It arrived in a plain manila envelope with no return address. Inside was a note that stated that I would know precisely what to do with the information this anonymous source provided. That source was indeed correct.
Hopefully, those who are engaged in this frenzied shredding operation received their orders in writing and have taken extraordinary steps to safeguard their orders far beyond the company vault. For if history tells us anything, and it should, this menial but criminally significant task is almost always left to the “disposable” kind of employees where the blame always falls and a stint in prison leaves less of public stigma to other certain, high-value executives dictating the orders. It’s plausible deniability in action, or PD, as it is known in the tradecraft.
As always, though, the extent of the lies and corruption is much deeper than meets the eye. It takes a lot of peeling of the onion to get to the truth, and I’ve left a lot of onion skins on the floor by following the leads of my bipartisan, benevolent benefactor to bring forth this information.
It was just announced that the Obama White House is dropping CGI, Inc. next month when its contract with the U.S. federal government expires. Certain journalists and armchair sleuths with a peculiar penchant for political partisanship engaged in a frenzied frolic at the discovery of cronyism related to CGI. News that Toni Townes-Whitley, a senior executive at CGI Federal, was a college classmate of Michelle Obama at Princeton and visited the White House complex on several occasions was sufficient cause for celebration and provided entertaining fodder for the one-dimensional political pundits. CGI Federal ultimately secured a $678 million no-bid contract to build the ObamaCare website, and did so miserably. At least, that’s the government’s story, and they’re sticking to it. Yet that’s just the veneer of a much deeper, more nefarious scheme, especially when you look at its replacement.
The Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services recently announced that a company known as Accenture has been selected to become the lead contractor for HealthCare.gov. Research into CGI’s replacement found very interesting information about just who is rescuing the exchange that should leave everyone reading this less than relieved. You see, Accenture was previously known as Andersen Consulting, a corporate outgrowth of the Chicago-based accounting firm Arthur Andersen, LLP. If that name seems to ring a bell, it should.
Arthur Andersen, LLP became inextricably linked to the Texas-based energy giant Enron, as they provided made-to-order auditing services to Enron. Of course everybody remember Enron’s founder Kenneth Lay, a close friend of the Bush family dynasty and favorite whipping boy of the Progressives. Lay became the Progressive poster-child for graft and crony capitalism, but his knowledge of where the proverbial bodies were buried became cause for concern among those involved in the criminal enterprise, especially those close to the Oval Office.
Lay was ultimately convicted of 10 of the 11 counts of securities fraud and related charges in May of 2006. Before he could be sentenced or offer any information that could mitigate his sentence, however, Lay, age 64, died as a result of… a heart attack. Too many breakfasts of Eggs Benedict, or so we are to believe. A mere “fortuitous happenstance” for some.
Like the proverbial Phoenix, Arthur Andersen, LLP, or the core of the corporation, rose from the ashes of scandal and landed in Dublin, Ireland as Accenture. Of course, there are multiple steps in between, but I’ll spare the reader the task of onion peeling. Nonetheless, one might wonder if a portrait of the late Kenneth Lay bestows their offices, or at least some of the desks of the corporate execs there.
The transfer of responsibilities from CGI to Accenture to clean up the mess is an interesting one indeed. Perhaps CGI or other contractors and subcontractors could qualify for energy credits to mitigate the cost of their current power consumption. Or, perhaps some of the more informed members of the devout yet disposable support staff of the ObamaCare site should consider picking up a phone before they load more documents into the auto-feed paper tray of the company shredder.
There’s more… much more. But for now, perhaps the elected leaders in whom patriotic constitutionalist adherents to the right-left paradigm place so much of their faith could stop the destruction of documentation instead of merely putting on a useless display of public outrage. After all, such records may be necessary in a criminal trial, ala Enron.
The sooner people understand that ObamaCare has nothing to do with affordable health care, the better off we’ll all be. It’s all about consolidation and control, and the enrichment of a select few on the path to subjugation. The masks of the players might change, but they are still the same players in the game of ultimate control.
Source: http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10362
My, you were a busy lady last evening. 
Way too much to respond to everything.
I had thought you might have been talking about Mr. Forbes. But I had never thought of him being associated with the Liberty Movement, as Forbes Magazine does tow-the-line with Trilateral Commission policy. Which given it's audience, is to be expected. But none-the-less, I read your post several times and thought "hmmm, this sure sounds more like Fulford you're talking about, than Forbes Editorial office.
Sorry for the misjudgement, just looking out for you in case you made a minor slip.
Thanks for sharing your roofing experience. My friend's roofing company gets a fair bit of call-in insurance business from State Farm. And thanks for sharing your 9/11 story! I always enjoy hearing about other people's experience on that day.
CGI Federal? Their Head Office is in Montreal, Canada.
Now over to Space Maverick's thread. Amy Goodman has a good show today on Fukushima.
Way too much to respond to everything.I had thought you might have been talking about Mr. Forbes. But I had never thought of him being associated with the Liberty Movement, as Forbes Magazine does tow-the-line with Trilateral Commission policy. Which given it's audience, is to be expected. But none-the-less, I read your post several times and thought "hmmm, this sure sounds more like Fulford you're talking about, than Forbes Editorial office.
Sorry for the misjudgement, just looking out for you in case you made a minor slip.
Thanks for sharing your roofing experience. My friend's roofing company gets a fair bit of call-in insurance business from State Farm. And thanks for sharing your 9/11 story! I always enjoy hearing about other people's experience on that day.
CGI Federal? Their Head Office is in Montreal, Canada.
Now over to Space Maverick's thread. Amy Goodman has a good show today on Fukushima.
Hi Jake!
Yeah, I can really get on a roll sometimes when I'm tracking something, sorry!
Yeah, I can really get on a roll sometimes when I'm tracking something, sorry!
Jake:
Why is this the new Area 51? Care to elaborate?
Oh, FYI Your thought experiment? How accurate was it the other morning? 50% 70%
Just curious.
Trust me, its worse on this end.
As a disclaimer I should point out that I have not had any alcohol in my system since roughly 2008.
Well, unless two beers count during a short dinner. Nor do any drugs flow in my system. I wanted a clear head in trying to understand this all.
Do you think it helped?
Jury is still out, but you are right about what you posted on the Bible thread in regards to thought insemination. 100% accurate. Mind you, I am just going off the assumption of the Hundreds of billions on R&D were quite a success.
Freaking White Ninjas are everywhere. I likened it to Alice stumbling all over the place...
Anyhoo - God Bless America! Here is to apple pie, beer, babes in bikinis, Football, and barbecues! Salute, to all the Vets and the armed forces. Raising my flag in honor. Did I forget anything? Oh yes, peace and love to all God's creatures. Let's all hug.
Back to OM-51
I had a thought experiement also. Answering odd emails from UK. Pretty stupid in know, but sometimes I like to chase all potential breadcrumbs. So if I end up dead or implicated in some rouge plot... Just call it b.s.
Conspiracy? Yes.
Hurt? Never.
SCREENSHOTS!
Why is this the new Area 51? Care to elaborate?
Oh, FYI Your thought experiment? How accurate was it the other morning? 50% 70%
Just curious.
Trust me, its worse on this end.
As a disclaimer I should point out that I have not had any alcohol in my system since roughly 2008.
Well, unless two beers count during a short dinner. Nor do any drugs flow in my system. I wanted a clear head in trying to understand this all.
Do you think it helped?
Jury is still out, but you are right about what you posted on the Bible thread in regards to thought insemination. 100% accurate. Mind you, I am just going off the assumption of the Hundreds of billions on R&D were quite a success.
Freaking White Ninjas are everywhere. I likened it to Alice stumbling all over the place...
Anyhoo - God Bless America! Here is to apple pie, beer, babes in bikinis, Football, and barbecues! Salute, to all the Vets and the armed forces. Raising my flag in honor. Did I forget anything? Oh yes, peace and love to all God's creatures. Let's all hug.
Back to OM-51
I had a thought experiement also. Answering odd emails from UK. Pretty stupid in know, but sometimes I like to chase all potential breadcrumbs. So if I end up dead or implicated in some rouge plot... Just call it b.s.
Conspiracy? Yes.
Hurt? Never.
SCREENSHOTS!
More as a joke. No one knows we exist and those who do aren't telling.MD02 wrote:Jake:
Why is this the new Area 51? Care to elaborate?
I guess it's fitting in another way too. Here, we work on things of the future. Prognosing tomorrow.
Ya, I think so too. But then, it gets way better after the fires are all put out. Of course everything will look a lot different then.Oh, FYI Your thought experiment? How accurate was it the other morning? 50% 70%
Just curious.
Trust me, its worse on this end.
Thought Experiment? I'm not sure which happening you are talking about. Let me guess...the Two News Stories on 1/14/14?
I think I'm about 70% or better on that one. The PtB are looking dumber and dumber everyday. No wonder their Final Charade is prophesied to only last "a time, two times and a half". Goofballs! what a waste.
Dr Phil will be there at the end, opening the doors to the DUMBS, yelling down, "What Were You Thinking?"
I didn't know you before 2008, did I? I hadn't had a drop in the last week, opened a bottle of Red last night. Made things really clear. Paul's message to Timothy. It works!As a disclaimer I should point out that I have not had any alcohol in my system since roughly 2008.
Well, unless two beers count during a short dinner. Nor do any drugs flow in my system. I wanted a clear head in trying to understand this all.
Do you think it helped?
Jury is still out
Thanks! The apparent world view is composed of thousands of agendas manifesting their imaginations to realities. Wizards of Oz everywhere.but you are right about what you posted on the Bible thread in regards to thought insemination. 100% accurate. Mind you, I am just going off the assumption of the Hundreds of billions on R&D were quite a success.
Freaking White Ninjas are everywhere. I likened it to Alice stumbling all over the place...
You know what MD? I really don't know who you are. Hardly know anything about your life. Its difficult to follow you without points of reference. Anyway, if you end up dead, let us know, OK?
Back to OM-51
I had a thought experiment also. Answering odd emails from UK. Pretty stupid in know, but sometimes I like to chase all potential breadcrumbs. So if I end up dead or implicated in some rouge plot... Just call it b.s.
Conspiracy? Yes.
Hurt? Never.
SCREENSHOTS!
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I'm going to take Your reminder on Timothy's advice on Friday. Long overdue....
I'm also going to take your advice on visiting from the after-world, if ever that be an option. How fun that would be, but I don't think it works that way.
The rest.....My obscure mind. Pay no heed..... All's good.
I'm also going to take your advice on visiting from the after-world, if ever that be an option. How fun that would be, but I don't think it works that way.
The rest.....My obscure mind. Pay no heed..... All's good.
Someone looking at me a half millennia hense might think it sad to say I didn't have the excuse of ever using drugs. I never have, never will....I'm weird enough as it is, all on my own....don't need any help in that dept.
Comes natural.
shrug.
At this point those who SHOULD know it exists, do. Or will discover it in proper time and order.
@ MD, you've gone now from Lotus, to WYSIWYG, and I'm sitting up here on this roof in suspense for Excel.
Grin.
Cy
Comes natural.
shrug.
At this point those who SHOULD know it exists, do. Or will discover it in proper time and order.
@ MD, you've gone now from Lotus, to WYSIWYG, and I'm sitting up here on this roof in suspense for Excel.
Grin.
Cy
http://www.isuma.tv/en/inuit-knowledge-and-climate-change-project/earth-has-shifted
A little lite reading before bed is recommended for those of us who spin in our heads...
Here's a nice piece on TWs, Greys, & the Charles Hall books:
http://ufodigest.com:8080/article/out-world-grey-disaster-roswell-july-2nd-1947
This is a well written piece. I think it does an excellent job of giving the readership a view into the "other side of the story" which has been sadly lacking in ufology/exopolitics.
You know, when you read "the other side of the story" it isn't anything so un-rational. I mean, you can get insight into other species and how they deal with themselves and with external species when you read biological reports animals. Some of which have been extensively documented as in the Meerkats and Dolphins, then published for the world to see. Each specie has their way of going about things which is rational for its individual circumstance and intertwined relationship with other species within its landscape. It is truly fantastic in and of itself and requires no mysticism or anthopomorphizing on our part to be interesting.
Many people like focus on how something relates to themselves. They seek context which is useful or meaningful to them and promotes their own self-worth, I think. This is why so many out there approach the paradigm from a skewed viewpoint. If they cannot find a connection, then there will be those who unethically contrive one. Since so many of people tend to be naturally competitive or aggressive in all circumstances of their lives, the high percentage of the seriously skewed perspectives out there have either self-servancy, competition, or aggression themes at their roots of the contrived narrative which is then used to create a secondary construct which usually entails promotion of a general opinion or recommendation that is either a syrupy good theology or a OMG the sky is falling and they're all evil theology.
When someone studies biological life in general you find that living beings are successful and surviving generally because they are NOT a study in irrational extremes. They have qualities of both under extreme circumstances but that survive-ability entails employment of a rational that includes benefits and limitations of biology, culture (survival proven methods of interrelating under all given circumstances married to innate specie nature), and thought processes influenced by the afore mentioned.
As the saying goes there is a reason under the sun for everything...its a process of discovery.
Cy
Here's a nice piece on TWs, Greys, & the Charles Hall books:
http://ufodigest.com:8080/article/out-world-grey-disaster-roswell-july-2nd-1947
This is a well written piece. I think it does an excellent job of giving the readership a view into the "other side of the story" which has been sadly lacking in ufology/exopolitics.
You know, when you read "the other side of the story" it isn't anything so un-rational. I mean, you can get insight into other species and how they deal with themselves and with external species when you read biological reports animals. Some of which have been extensively documented as in the Meerkats and Dolphins, then published for the world to see. Each specie has their way of going about things which is rational for its individual circumstance and intertwined relationship with other species within its landscape. It is truly fantastic in and of itself and requires no mysticism or anthopomorphizing on our part to be interesting.
Many people like focus on how something relates to themselves. They seek context which is useful or meaningful to them and promotes their own self-worth, I think. This is why so many out there approach the paradigm from a skewed viewpoint. If they cannot find a connection, then there will be those who unethically contrive one. Since so many of people tend to be naturally competitive or aggressive in all circumstances of their lives, the high percentage of the seriously skewed perspectives out there have either self-servancy, competition, or aggression themes at their roots of the contrived narrative which is then used to create a secondary construct which usually entails promotion of a general opinion or recommendation that is either a syrupy good theology or a OMG the sky is falling and they're all evil theology.
When someone studies biological life in general you find that living beings are successful and surviving generally because they are NOT a study in irrational extremes. They have qualities of both under extreme circumstances but that survive-ability entails employment of a rational that includes benefits and limitations of biology, culture (survival proven methods of interrelating under all given circumstances married to innate specie nature), and thought processes influenced by the afore mentioned.
As the saying goes there is a reason under the sun for everything...its a process of discovery.
Cy
Being human, I have a penchant for screwing up the moving parts of a rock...but it is also true that I mean well. All the chaos is unintentional. And this should sufficiently explain the existence of the enigmatic definition of the very human term: Oops.
Cyrellys wrote:
@ MD, you've gone now from Lotus, to WYSIWYG, and I'm sitting up here on this roof in suspense for Excel.
Grin.
Cy
Its my extra-dimensional nature or the process of its reversion....
I go with the flow I'm given, generally. Doesn't mean it is enjoyable...
I'll morph again soon. Excel pending on universal protocols establishing guidelines. Hey, maybe a focus group. Ambiguity is like trying to pull matter from the Aether.
ROFL MD!
Oh my, a focus group! lol.
....
Ok, the late evening haul which I was too tired to post here last night:
Re: A National Control List obligated by the treaty
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/obama-kerry-united-nations-treaty-requires-us-to-hand-over-american-gun-registrations/
Now, in light of the two terrorist bombings in Russia just last month that killed a total of 34 people and injured more than 100 others, rumor is creeping out of the Kremlin that Putin has had enough with warnings and tough talk and is planning a tactical nuclear strike on Mecca, the heart of Islamic ideology; the Muslim holy land.
http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/10/putin-vows-to-nuke-mecca/
Which was built upon the quote/material found here: http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/01/01/russian-president-vlaidmir-putin-vows-total-annihilation-of-the-muslim-terrorists-who-were-behind-the-recent-suicide-bombings-and-bus-bombings-which-killed-dozens-and-wounded-many-more/
"While visiting survivors of the most recent terrorist bombings, Putin vowed to pursue these Muslim terrorists to their “total annihilation” in his first public comments since the Volgograd suicide bombings. “The inhumane terrorist acts in Volgograd” were among the biggest challenges Russia faced in 2013.”"
My thoughts: I'm thinking that after the Administration deciding it needed one more wave of US servicemen pulled from this nation to ensure the need to use foreign troops here, it attempted to use Syria for that. They built up Syria's conflict by running guns through Bengazi, which backfired, then they attempted to kype an undocumented set of nukes from TX Dyess AFB like the Minot AFB incident back in 2007 to turn SC's Charleston Harbor into a disaster which would force Congress to go to war on Syria (the accumulated account of this is enough you can't ignore it), and this then backfired which escalated the military purges of brass and officers and those who maintain the nukes.
So now are we looking at a change of tactics? If they couldn't get us loose our brains once more in the mid-east maybe they can get the Russians to do it?
When I read down the comments on the last link I noticed something interesting. The author was highly involved in the comment section, which is a little unusual for alternative journalists who are usually already on the trail of their next writing, at least to the degree this guy was...
And the other thing I noticed was the author was very particular about who said what in the comment section. In particular he made a distinct point of threatening to ban a guy who made a single post that perhaps the russians should check or consider the possibility of a mossad made false flag, implying information under consideration by certain American militia groups wrt Oklahoma Bombing etc.
Looking at the quality of the posts that the author left un molested were thinkers generally adhering to the msm memes.
So I consider what he posted, what perspective he left intact, and then how it was picked up by another theoretical 'patriot' site and evolved from 'total annihilation' into 'nuking' 'em.
Interesting pattern. IF I can notice this, I bet the Russians can too. And if after that service man briefed them about the in-advisability of accommodating the Napolitano Letter a few years back they changed their minds and sent troops and booksellers over here? Would he still allow his people and their resources to be used in such a way if he had a suspicion about being used to start a WWIII situation in the mid east?
The general impression I've had of the man is of a hard won field campaigner who while he can be ruthless in defense of his own people , nation, and position, would not be caught dead being the level of monster that kind of manipulation would create out of him. And he didn't get to where he is right now by being stupid.
Cy
Oh my, a focus group! lol.
....
Ok, the late evening haul which I was too tired to post here last night:
Re: A National Control List obligated by the treaty
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/obama-kerry-united-nations-treaty-requires-us-to-hand-over-american-gun-registrations/
Now, in light of the two terrorist bombings in Russia just last month that killed a total of 34 people and injured more than 100 others, rumor is creeping out of the Kremlin that Putin has had enough with warnings and tough talk and is planning a tactical nuclear strike on Mecca, the heart of Islamic ideology; the Muslim holy land.
http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/10/putin-vows-to-nuke-mecca/
Which was built upon the quote/material found here: http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/01/01/russian-president-vlaidmir-putin-vows-total-annihilation-of-the-muslim-terrorists-who-were-behind-the-recent-suicide-bombings-and-bus-bombings-which-killed-dozens-and-wounded-many-more/
"While visiting survivors of the most recent terrorist bombings, Putin vowed to pursue these Muslim terrorists to their “total annihilation” in his first public comments since the Volgograd suicide bombings. “The inhumane terrorist acts in Volgograd” were among the biggest challenges Russia faced in 2013.”"
My thoughts: I'm thinking that after the Administration deciding it needed one more wave of US servicemen pulled from this nation to ensure the need to use foreign troops here, it attempted to use Syria for that. They built up Syria's conflict by running guns through Bengazi, which backfired, then they attempted to kype an undocumented set of nukes from TX Dyess AFB like the Minot AFB incident back in 2007 to turn SC's Charleston Harbor into a disaster which would force Congress to go to war on Syria (the accumulated account of this is enough you can't ignore it), and this then backfired which escalated the military purges of brass and officers and those who maintain the nukes.
So now are we looking at a change of tactics? If they couldn't get us loose our brains once more in the mid-east maybe they can get the Russians to do it?
When I read down the comments on the last link I noticed something interesting. The author was highly involved in the comment section, which is a little unusual for alternative journalists who are usually already on the trail of their next writing, at least to the degree this guy was...
And the other thing I noticed was the author was very particular about who said what in the comment section. In particular he made a distinct point of threatening to ban a guy who made a single post that perhaps the russians should check or consider the possibility of a mossad made false flag, implying information under consideration by certain American militia groups wrt Oklahoma Bombing etc.
Looking at the quality of the posts that the author left un molested were thinkers generally adhering to the msm memes.
So I consider what he posted, what perspective he left intact, and then how it was picked up by another theoretical 'patriot' site and evolved from 'total annihilation' into 'nuking' 'em.
Interesting pattern. IF I can notice this, I bet the Russians can too. And if after that service man briefed them about the in-advisability of accommodating the Napolitano Letter a few years back they changed their minds and sent troops and booksellers over here? Would he still allow his people and their resources to be used in such a way if he had a suspicion about being used to start a WWIII situation in the mid east?
The general impression I've had of the man is of a hard won field campaigner who while he can be ruthless in defense of his own people , nation, and position, would not be caught dead being the level of monster that kind of manipulation would create out of him. And he didn't get to where he is right now by being stupid.
Cy
Cyrellys wrote:ROFL MD!
Oh my, a focus group! lol.
....
Should I stop while I'm ahead? I have more.
MD02 wrote:Cyrellys wrote:ROFL MD!
Oh my, a focus group! lol.
....
Should I stop while I'm ahead? I have more.
Nah! Laughing is good for the soul. If we cannot laugh because we do not practice it in those moments afforded us,
If we cannot then laugh when we stand in the face of overwhelming odds created by a world's insanity because we did not take advantage of those moments afforded us,
Then it is possible we have already lost our humanity and thus the fight before it really began.
Grin
Those are not the kinds of fights I let myself lose.
Double grin.
Though the gale may roar around us there will be heard an echo of distant laughter on the wind and there will be strength in the hands at the oars and upon the ropes that secure the sails.
And all storms pass quicker before the swordsman and the bard who also keeps the light alive by the twinkle in their eye.
Cy
Fire in the hole?
MD02 wrote:Fire in the hole?
In all the whole there is always something burning somewhere. Someone's tail feathers...feathers on the sidewalk.
I could say, 'well' but Synch might automatically assume I was properly thinking of the Well between worlds and then it'd grab me by the ankle to ensure I trip and fall in...
Oh wait it's already done that....I've done been cornered into giving all my livestock away so I am unencumbered. Ex-ranching partner comes to retrieve them this afternoon sometime, from eastern montana...
...not all that far unrelated from the declaration of policy Jake noticed on 01-14-14. It is discomforting on my part because I could tell Synch was working on something and not saying what to me anyway.
All these preps toward the event period...dang but I really liked ranching. And there's that monologue by raven number one who hangs out on the drama shelves who reminds me about IT; being a part if IT isn't about self.
Sucks when a certain something can run right over me, dragging me kicking and screaming into proper conduct and position and preparation because it is more right than I am.
A geis is no picnic.Yeah oh yeah D-day not so far away.
Cy
oops!
I guess I better find some friends! If that fails, I'll be hiding in the Library. Robert Frost in hand. Heck, I have not even had a chance to see D.C. yet. I can hear it now: "Bring him in through the alley....Scroungy looking thing...."
On a serious note: I will behave until Friday. My apologies to all for the ruckus. Ambiguity, ya know. For now I have to go play on trampolines, no joke..... Yea, we are a little odd here.
p.s. The White House ref. was a joke!
I guess I better find some friends! If that fails, I'll be hiding in the Library. Robert Frost in hand. Heck, I have not even had a chance to see D.C. yet. I can hear it now: "Bring him in through the alley....Scroungy looking thing...."
On a serious note: I will behave until Friday. My apologies to all for the ruckus. Ambiguity, ya know. For now I have to go play on trampolines, no joke..... Yea, we are a little odd here.
p.s. The White House ref. was a joke!
Am I just now - realizing some increase of strangeness again??
MD02 wrote:Am I just now - realizing some increase of strangeness again??
It's always strange in this proximity to Synch. SOSDD. Sorry I'm tired at the moment. Just finished loading animals into a trailer a bit ago.
I'm not registering any meaning out of your white house post. Have I suddenly become half brain dead?
Anyway, just popped in on Dan's thread for a peek a little while ago. A bunch of princess mush from her hubby. And he's fawning over killing people again and promoting drone usage to do it or help with it. Great way to develop it for use here as all the white papers like to talk about. Depopulation at its finest and at this point it don't yet qualify as using a weapon of mass destruction which would get them in really hot water with ET.
Sorry I wasn't impressed. Contemplations of murder doesn't impress me. Doesn't matter if you call it war or not. And I've spent my fair share of raising and preserving animals. War is an ugly business not the pretty display they just put on. And the 5000 year of breeding comment pandolfi made is how male chauvinists with insecurity complexes justify enslaving their women to make it sound palatable. Too twibbed or control freakish to run with an equal. Again, real impressive....Not.
ugh.
It paints quite the picture of Dan however for joining in.Cy
Cy, I'm sorry to learn you had to say goodbye to your animals. I hope this direction serves you well in some way. And that you will be comforted.
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