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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection
Rooster's Crow Confusion
One thing else to end the deed --
A dog with no Illusion.
~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
The inside joke here is that CAROLINA, META and WASHINGTON in Red vs Blue are freelancers.
Washington: "I don't care! Just dig! META (aka GERMAINE) Dig!"
Famous Washington (HALO: RED vs BLUE) quotes, "Uh O' Spaghetti O!"
What are 'public-private partnerships'? How do you create a cadre mercenaries 'er useful idiots...foreign grist mills. How is global governance overlay infrastructure funded? Why is it easier to hide miscreant activities inside private corporate run gov property? How is national security used to hide profiteering & production of tools for nation-state deconstruction aka wmd?
CAROLINA grappling hooks Washington because he wouldn't speed up....Washington: "I don't want to end up like JERSEY!" -- JERSEY's demise was a jet-packing accident in outer space... (wait, wasn't it New Jersey that just outlawed clips with more than 10 bullets?)
WASHINGTON (red vs blue) "I was remembered in my division for getting a grappling hook stuck to my balls."
@POTUS @RealDonaldTrump
Alt-News: NJ State Police to launch Nazi-style door-to-door gun magazine confiscation campaign… at gunpoint, of course… NJ declares WAR on its own residents https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-12-12-nj-state-police-to-launch-nazi-style-door-to-door-gun-magazine-confiscation-campaign-at-gunpoint.html
Washington: "I don't care! Just dig! META (aka GERMAINE) Dig!"
Famous Washington (HALO: RED vs BLUE) quotes, "Uh O' Spaghetti O!"
What are 'public-private partnerships'? How do you create a cadre mercenaries 'er useful idiots...foreign grist mills. How is global governance overlay infrastructure funded? Why is it easier to hide miscreant activities inside private corporate run gov property? How is national security used to hide profiteering & production of tools for nation-state deconstruction aka wmd?
CAROLINA grappling hooks Washington because he wouldn't speed up....Washington: "I don't want to end up like JERSEY!" -- JERSEY's demise was a jet-packing accident in outer space... (wait, wasn't it New Jersey that just outlawed clips with more than 10 bullets?)
WASHINGTON (red vs blue) "I was remembered in my division for getting a grappling hook stuck to my balls."
@POTUS @RealDonaldTrump
Alt-News: NJ State Police to launch Nazi-style door-to-door gun magazine confiscation campaign… at gunpoint, of course… NJ declares WAR on its own residents https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-12-12-nj-state-police-to-launch-nazi-style-door-to-door-gun-magazine-confiscation-campaign-at-gunpoint.html
Ok for anyone who was not able to pick this up at Twit, I'm setting this in my space here.
Again, this is not appropriate for kids. It is 623KB mp4 vid proof of paradigm
Youngster appears approx 12yrs+/- and is reported as a minor accompanying illegal male parent who is present decapitated beneath the the minor.
https://mega.nz/#!pk9iiQSY!qc5ZFJwJtM6kvSa9UFiSt92CAeLOCcAjIbUDAqsa-M4
Nuff said. It's bad.
Again, this is not appropriate for kids. It is 623KB mp4 vid proof of paradigm
Youngster appears approx 12yrs+/- and is reported as a minor accompanying illegal male parent who is present decapitated beneath the the minor.
https://mega.nz/#!pk9iiQSY!qc5ZFJwJtM6kvSa9UFiSt92CAeLOCcAjIbUDAqsa-M4
Nuff said. It's bad.
A document affirming the ancient story of a cyclic cataclysm.
The Adam and Eve Story by Chan Thomas
CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2013/06/24...document starts on pg 7 of 57
https://mega.nz/#!h9NAEYII!qzxouD3FqNyWFSrlZubjxuqaLtgBxoVtu5m8WxOF3yI
The Adam and Eve Story by Chan Thomas
CIA-RDP79B00752A000300070001-8 Declassified in Part - Sanitized Copy Approved for Release 2013/06/24...document starts on pg 7 of 57
https://mega.nz/#!h9NAEYII!qzxouD3FqNyWFSrlZubjxuqaLtgBxoVtu5m8WxOF3yI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlm8YURKC0
11/11/2018 3am MIMIC Update
11/11/2018 3am MIMIC Update
EARTHQUAKE 3D - LIVE FEED
http://www.earthquake3d.com/
http://www.earthquake3d.com/
Happy Friggin New Year!
Ok first for the year....
SocMed doesn't like this one despite the fact its OLD NEWS!
http://www.usjournal.net/treanding-topics/documents-detail-plan-for-civil-unrest-and-martial-law-in-baltimore/
Whatever. Fluff U 2 tiwt.
Ok first for the year....
SocMed doesn't like this one despite the fact its OLD NEWS!
http://www.usjournal.net/treanding-topics/documents-detail-plan-for-civil-unrest-and-martial-law-in-baltimore/
Whatever. Fluff U 2 tiwt.
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Cyrellys Geibhendach interview by Susan Lindauer 03-17-2019
https://tfrlive.com/liberty-in-the-crosshairs-w-cyrellys-geibhendach-84829/
Cyrellys Geibhendach interview by Susan Lindauer 03-17-2019
https://tfrlive.com/liberty-in-the-crosshairs-w-cyrellys-geibhendach-84829/
The best in Dogfish anatomy (t)
https://mega.nz/#!o093ha5J!LVvjZEwlBq3-BHVWlMzSlrqXP_RvYiGPzocizkQaX5o
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Revamping the MIND MIX RADIO website & social media network.
Cy,
I would like to know your take on Qanon.
There is a registration process. Do you have any related links....... here or elsewhere?
I would like to know your take on Qanon.
There is a registration process. Do you have any related links....... here or elsewhere?
dan wrote:Cy,
I would like to know your take on Qanon.
There is a registration process. Do you have any related links....... here or elsewhere?
Hi Dan,
Q is military intelligence with a liaison sitting alongside potus if not at times potus himself. But often a mil officer who posts.
They're doing a Source A style public interface with the Chan "autists" and auxillary chan research community. Attached to this is an army of meme artists, social marketers, and connections to both the Alternative Media and the original Liberty Community in order to "red-pill" into awakening segments of the general population which in turn spreads the information virally.
https://Qanon.pub
Think Source A on steroids. I don't post on the Chans (4 & . I just don't have time. But I do interact with a number the Anons via Twitter. Why?
btw I just heard Ron's "spring meeting" is going to be a rather somber affair. Jason being cxld.
https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2019/04/pentagon-jason/
not to mention NRAC.
World Economic Forum's technocracy model of "rule via deep-state committee" is falling out of the sky like lead balloons at a rate of mach chicken.
Cy
Source (Dan Smith's Board): https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p850-immaterialism-6#24312
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Cyrellys wrote:I do believe I said Q is multiple people (military intelligence).
I also said one of which is someone who is with Trump.
I also said occasionally the posts may be Trump himself (Q+)
I said Q effort is a "Source A" on steroids. In fact it was recommended to return to the table in 2011 despite the headhunting public being designated as "too toxic to deal with".
NON-Q Content:
Then I said JASON has been canned, defunded.
I next said the "spring meeting" of JASON/MITRE is expected to be a "somber" one.
Then I said the Naval Research Advisory Committee (NRAC) has equally been canned, defunded.
After that I pointed out the source for the "concept" of "rule by committee"....Go to WEF "World Economic Forum" 2010 Global Redesign Initiative to see it in action.
There. I've now done all the research outline for those who could have, should have done it for themselves.
Laterz all....I have to get back to the non-lazy (not referring to Dan, just his company)
Cy
PS I also insinuated RP's affiliation, fyi. I'll leave you to figure out the implications of that. Oh and isn't it interesting the only thing that survives this falling out, is EW (electronic warfare)...well A.L. Webre posted this just today:A.L.Webre of K M Stewart on DEW wrote:FACEBOOK SOURCE https://www.facebook.com/alfred.webre/posts/10161609259665524
Subject Directed Energy Weapons DEW
Alfred Lambremont Webre
Yesterday at 10:37 AM ·
DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS DEW from former NSA
"To whom it may concern,
I am a 28 year veteran intelligence analyst with the National Security Agency. I can tell you first hand that electronic weapons that are mobile and can be contained in purses and bags are being used to harm and kill people. Let me show you some pertinent admissions by the U.S. government:
50 USC Ch 40, §2301 Congressional Findings clearly states that Congress recognizes that chemical, biological, radiological and other (electronic) weapons of mass destruction are now capable of being made by domestic terrorists and criminals. (Weapons of war)
E.O. S-1233 , DOD Directive S-3321.1 and National Security Directive 130, the United States military and Intelligence Communities are forbidden by law from targeting U.S. citizens with PSYOPS within US borders. (Gang stalking/massive slander and libel campaigns/ obsessive obstruction of daily activities and the aquisition of life necessities, i.e. complete neutralization )
RICO Law - 18 U.S. Code § 1961; Organized Crime Control Act of 1980.
E.O. 13526 - Neither Congress nor the President of the United States has the right to pass unconstitutional laws in effort to protect government employed criminals from being exposed for their wrong-doings. §1.7 (covering classified status allocation) specifically states that you cannot specifically classify information merely to cover up a crime. Any attempt to illegally seal records from disclosure will be viewed as and dealt with as a criminal act.
E. O. 13606, all who conduct or conspire to facilitate prohibited activities using sophisticated electronic technology to harm communications equipment, communications networks, or human beings, are Axis of Evil, Rogue State Actor or sympathizers or terrorist infiltrators working against the American people and public at large, by the definition in (section) § 7, to include transmission and display; as well as those using information and communications technology to commit serious and grave human rights abuses, in violation of the Counterfeit access device fraud and Computer Abuse Act of 1984. (Electronic Harassment)
10 US Code §950t (2) forbids attacking non-combatant civilians with weapons of war.
18 USC §2441 prohibits the Federal governments and agents thereof from committing acts of war upon unarmed, non-combatant civilians.
18 USC §2381 Treason
In my investigation into this phenomenon, it would appear that the main chain of command for attacking innocent Americans is DHS / FBI / Fusion Centers and InfraGard.
DHS - Designed and created a fraud Terrorist Watch List for self-aggrandisement, power, control, and funding;
FBI - Trains Fusion Center personnel in the Domestic Terrorst Units how to BE domestic terrrists;
Fusion Centers - Enlist and train covert civilian mercenary stalkers to viciously slander, libel, harass, and even kill innocent “pretend” terrorists “for God and country”, Constitution be damned;
InfraGard - various levels of civilian participation, from sincere but gullible civilian “volunteers” who believe the slander spread about the innocent, “pretend” terrorist, to actual criminals who could not care less about innocence, they just want the under-the-table gift cards, etc. and have no qualms about committng Fusion Center crimes against the “pretend” terrorist, who is totally baffled by the heinous and constant abuse, assaults, and purposeful sabotage of every aspect of his/her life by strangers and previously friendly or at least previously non-hostile neighbors and co-workers. He/she is unaware that Fusion Center and InfraGard goons have flooded his/her acquaintances with fabricated accusations of a multitude of egregious, pretend crimes he/she has never committed.
This “take down” operation keeps the public busy attacking each other and it builds an army of vicious, covert, mercenary sociopaths hiding within every community to destroy anyone someone with power and influence says to, without any real reason, other than whim, vengeance, convenience, or sadism.
Everything is couched in “Homeland Security”. This psychological war was developed by the former East German Communist Secret Police as a means to covertly destroy dissidents. Look up “Zersetzung” or “zersetzen”. Its purpose was to destroy the person’s life to the point he/she committed suicide. But thanks to secret, mobile, electronic weaponry the rogue government elements can “speed up the process” by destroying the victim’s health and torturing him/her daily.
You will find that each victim has been covertly and against his/her will “microchipped”. He/she will usually have a GPS locator RFID shot into him/her as he/she slept, as well as three other chips at least, one behind each ear, and one in a nasal passage. This is minimum, depending on the type of torture and slow-kill intended. MRIs should show these as white spots the x-ray technician will call “artifacts”, meaning, it is in the body, but it is a foreign object of unknown origin.
“Partners” such as other Federal Agencies (DOJ, IRS, NSA, etc.) can order a “hit” on the person to retaliate against whistleblowers and people who could expose criminal wrong-doing inside the government.
Defense contractors, big pharma, hospitals, etc. are other types of “partners” who can order hits on people for their own purposes, even just covert weapons testing, such as the aforementioned electronic, deadly, silent weapons used to assassinate, as well as sophisticated weapons in the areas of gases, poisons, chemical attacks - even honed to specific DNA.
The vicious 24/7 harassment, that is the first thing a victim tends to report, is set up as a network of relay-stalkers doing odd things to intimidate or freak out the victim and make them sound paranoid and delusional right off the bat so that police and authorities write them off as crazy. Then when the horrific electronic attacks, chemical attacks, poisoning, etc. begin in and around their homes, no one will investigate. The person is isolated and left defenseless, no Constitutional, Civil, or Human rights. Only the “right” to suffer unimaginably, along with added insult and emotional injury of a rogue element of the government gone wild, with the oversight and protective arm of government asleep at the wheel.
Any rudimentary search shows such weapons exist, especially in regard to patents and government, military, and contractors bragging on their newest “non-lethal” (quite lethal misused) and directed energy weapons. Our own diplomats were stricken by them in Cuba (2017) and China (2018) and doctors examining them found concussve internal brain damage without external damage.
Please heed the complaints of the person bringing this to your attention. His/her complaints are quite real. These weapons are a Pandora’s box opened wide to the detriment and possible end of civilization and all life. These kinds of weapons destroy DNA as well as a host of other health damage. And the InfraGard assassins have no regard for their innocent prey much less for collateral damage. Its all about money for them and all about gaining more and more and more power for DHS and the FBI. They make the Nazi Gestapo look like boy scouts.
K. M. Stewart
National Security Agency
Intelligence Analyst, ret. 28 yrs
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SOURCE (Dan Smiths Board): https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p850-immaterialism-6#24313
Cyrellys wrote:Now all that said, what is the implications of EW being used on civilian non-combatants including media?
Current list of Constitutional Violations by Globalists
1st Amendment
2nd Amendment
4th Amendment
Sedition
Treason
How do you stop a globalist invasion involving two preposition-ed armies?
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/agenda-21-conspiracy-immigration-martial-law-united-states-war/calexit-joins-forces-cartels
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/whistleblower-unvetted-diseased-muslims-into-usa-at-night-obtain-
Trump is improving daily. It is all out there to see. But you have to know what you're looking at.
"And at the heart of this movement is the Sinoloa Drug Cartel, controlled by the Chinese army, which is now in control of the Emerald Triangle in California." ~ Hodges write-up
The Sinoloa Drug Cartel... next thing on my list to look into. Scary.
The Sinoloa Drug Cartel... next thing on my list to look into. Scary.
99 wrote:"And at the heart of this movement is the Sinoloa Drug Cartel, controlled by the Chinese army, which is now in control of the Emerald Triangle in California." ~ Hodges write-up
The Sinoloa Drug Cartel... next thing on my list to look into. Scary.
Yes. Be sure to read thru the Plan of San Diego
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/ngp04
Extra: http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=3&psid=3692
Thanks Cy... I always attempt to explore what technically is the opposing side, from my usual stance, of any given issue to gain a more balanced viewpoint and to explore, why are they seeing things so differently than I am... or to see if I can find out what information they are basing things on that's missing from my usual go-to sources. I think it's important to do this even for some of the most, what I view, reprehensible POV's on some major topics out there.
There are always 2 or more sides to the story.
There are always 2 or more sides to the story.
NZ- FULL
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OFtr5kDOz7yh/
Source: Dan's Immaterialism 6 Thread
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p850-immaterialism-6#24325
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p850-immaterialism-6#24325
dan wrote:Cy,
Thank for the information.
Even at this late date, I have to confess, Cy, that I’m unsure of where you are coming from.
Each time you grace us with your presence, Cy, I’m hopeful that I’ll be able to figure something out.
But, as just now, I’m left wondering......
I gather that you are no big fan of coherence, as in the Coherence Theory of Truth, for instance.
I guess with my physics/philosophy background, I’m always attempting to operate from first principles.
2:50(gmt-3).........
Hello to U, my trustafarian friend.......
Maybe U can help me decipher Cyrellys’ cosmology......
I recall from previous conversations that Cy shares an unorthodox Christianity, with strong elements of Celtic paganism, with her familial background.
There are strong Gnostic elements, particularly.
As, for instance, that we inhabit a prison planet, overseen by a not very benign Demiurge.
The question arises as to how we might outsmart our Overlord, and throw off our spiritual chains.......
Of course, I’m gonna ask how does this Gnosticism relate to the BPWH?
Let me, think, per impossible, at 2:30am, local, Waynesboro....
Cy is certainly claiming to be woke, much like my dear departed sister, Louise, even more radical Radcliffie, perhaps our truest Trustafarian, being an honorary member of the Montana militia.
Ron at one point claimed to be smitten with the warrior image of Cy.
Louise could never figure out the psyches of all our ‘sheeple’ brothers and sisters....... the unwoken ones. Louise died in 2012, I’m thinking. I’m not sure what she would have made of donny. I’m not so sure what Cy makes of him, either.
I always say that you want to be real careful when you kick a sleeping one..... you never know what side of bed they will wake up on. They’re liable to be a bit grumpy. You know how those deplorables can be.
My plea to the waking ones is to look/think before we leap, please........
Waking entails a paradigm shift....... but before you embrace any old paradigm, please consider the mother of all paradigm shifts, ie, the MoAPS.
What is the nature of our impending Apocalypse.....
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
4:30........
U would get on with the Princess rather well.
dan wrote:Let’s suppose that it will not be possible to objectify portals...... as it is very difficult to objectify flying saucers.
Yes, we have many photographs of anomalous lights in the sky. I’m suggesting that we’re not likely to retrieve a landed saucer....... which would be virtually synonymous with portal.
Whither, then, Disclosure...?
How might the Monad be disclosed, if not with a portal? It beats me.
We are back to the WoM/MoAPS...... as a socio/political phenomenon.
The internet contains a plethora of personal descriptions of paranormal/parapsychological phenomena, many of which are perfectly credible. Many of these involve altered states.
Meanwhile, the cultural balance continues to shift away from scientific/reductionist views toward the intersubjective/postmodern/pluralist views.
These two social trends will become become increasingly mutual.
There will not be an implosion of scientific materialism, but it will continue to whither away. The sky will not fall. Poor chicken little may just have to be put out to pasture, or otherwise retired.
There will still be the personal gestalt switch. But smelly’s reaction, or lack thereof, is likely to define the norm, particularly as folks take on board the non free will implications of the BPW.
IOW, the possible evangelical component of the BPW will be very significantly attenuated.
Will we avoid Armageddon and Tribulation......?
These issues will remain of concern to many. Will things get worse, before they get better? If so, how much worse?
What limits, if any, might we place on the downside potential for the BPW? Hmmm...... may the Lord have mercy.
(cont.......)
Source: Dan's Immaterialism 6 page 36
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24346
Source: Dan Smiths Immaterialism 6 thread
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24361
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24361
Cyrellys wrote:Hi Dan,
First - OMF business. My apologies for not being able to make the conference this morning. We had internet down here most of the morning. We'll have to reschedule it. I'm open to date and time suggestions.
SECOND.
As for my views. I've explained it here so many times, and you et al insist on making weird assumptions and modifications, to the point I gave up in exasperation. I will try one last time.
- What is Source: Source is Universal Cosmic Consciousness - The ONE in ALL. It's ALL Conscious. It's just another way of describing Celtic Christianity's perception of GOD. This perception is more than 10K years old, and carefully passed from generation to generation.
- What is SYNCHRONICITY: Synchronicity with a CAPITAL S is the literal HAND of SOURCE operating/manifesting in a physical/perceivable way here in our reality - combined spiritual/physical reality.
- Our Reality: it is not separate. Spiritual & Physical & Consciousness is all part of the same. There are only transitions between manifestation forms. Like water to a vapor to it's various components to pure gas to back to water vapor under the necessary conditions to back to a liquid form. This reality has aspects which are spiritual, consciousness, and various states of physical all at the same time. For pure consciousness there is ZERO time. Times is linear perception relative to physical states of existence. Your soul is temporarily attached to a physical state for the purpose of development in lifetime increments. Many souls reincarnate in "family" groups of souls in similar or related levels of development. A physical body must be ABLE to contain the level of soul slated for it. It is not a visible design.
- We are a creation of God, a facet of God, a consequence of God, and on a VERY limited level at this point, co-creators. Each human being is involved in the PURSUIT of ALL BEING which "achieving the state of development" aka Being attained by God. God respects FREE WILL (pelagian concept) aka LIBERTY. God partners with people in spiritual/soul development. Each life is an experiential often themed classroom.
- Aes Dana among many other people, participate in the "revolution of lifetimes" aka reincarnation. For us this is part of the Pursuit of All Being...aka Soul Development. In these lifetimes it is possible to advance or regress. It's also possible to destroy your own SELF or Soul-Construct. If you or someone else does this, you CEASE to exist. Nuclear weapons use tear the fabric of reality and destroy any soul-constructs it comes into effect on. The two cities destroyed in Japan (WW2) permanently destroyed all those people - they're gone; wiped.
- Human Creation. Aes Dana ascribe to the ancient story of the Ancients (Sanskrit records term "Sephiroth") - the 7 most ancient races in the current Universe - who are preparing for their next state of advancement in BEING. They partnered with GOD/SOURCE to create their own replacement. A race that after its own self-development would eventually take their place as mentors to other young races in this Universe until it outgrows this environment of its own accord in turn. This purpose is coveted by the dark ones. When the Ancients take that advancement, they will be out of reach and influence of our level of existence.
- Human History: We are co-inhabitants with Others (both terrestrial hominids, Extraterrestrials - visitors/proximity, Ultra-terrestrials. What is an ultraterrestrial - a being that has shed any need for a corporeal body. There can be degrees of existence expression between ET & UT. Some of the Ancients are UT others degrees of ET/UT combo. Some ETs use Earth strictly as a layover location between other locations. Some do research here for our planetary life-library of genetics. In order to participate in the Greater Community OUT THERE - we as a race and a planet are REQUIRED to have a Planetary Representative Government that represents ALL Humans. Humanity is too rife with corruption and mutual disrespecting cultures for this. Not ready. But circumstances are forcing a need for this. Exceptions have been discussed by the Others.
- We started off as co-inhabitants with an older race only technologically more developed than us NOT SPIRITUALLY more developed (originally from a planet they destroyed, then failed immigration to mars, then colonization of Earth). They disputed in ancient times with the ANCIENTS over the ownership of Earth. Then they became embroiled in conflict over Earth & humans with the Ancients - ancient Global Civil War. They threatened to annihilate humanity if the Ancients didn't leave. The Ancients retreated to give us time to mature. Meanwhile they tinkered with our Genetics, and used many as slaves. Their descendants are a mix of human and colonist - we know them today as the Illuminati Families. Their proxies as Globalists. They are NOT your friend. They can be tracked via culture involving human predation & trafficking/enslavement, adrenochrome harvesting, luciferianism, etc.
- If the Illumined can destroy humanity, by hook or crook, there leaves a vacuum which they could overtake. This outcome would be cause for the remaining ANCIENTS to destroy Earth in order to attempt to protect the rest of the Universe and its future from the Illumines negative predatory nature.
- Many humans today around the world are "WALK-INS". These are individuals (SOULS) who have moved forward to alternative learning situations, many elsewhere, who have been asked to return to assist with the crisis here to prevent the destruction of humanity. The Universe is in a state of flux...strands of possibility scattering off in all directions because of the question of our survival. --- Message in the bottle: You are more than you realize. You must WANT to LIVE. The universe depends on your survival. They are not allowed to use weapons of mass destruction to destroy humanity here. ---
- But they ARE using weapons of mass destruction on humanity and HIDING it.
- The US Constitutional Government was a vehicle designed for the Guardians of Human Life & Potential, and a template for an eventually global governance that would be representative. It is a clear and present danger to the globalists/Illumined. The designers knew that....it's why they empowered the design with the unorganized militia, 1A & 2A...not for individual protection, but for defense against govt gone rogue or an outside threat.
- Who are Aes Dana: If you're looking for references in physical texts go to C.E.L.T. that's Corpus of Electronic Texts University of Ireland. Look up Aes Dana, and Tuath Dannan alt spelling Danann. Aes Dana is the later use term. The Aes Dana immigrated to America starting in 1623 Laconia Colony/Company at the instruction of the Council aka Scribes of Fermoy in Feara Maighe Eireann. Names were anglicized to pass for English. The Aes Dana clanns from around Europe were passed thru the process not just Eire. The Aes Dana tell English speakers we are Old Irish. Religion: Celtic Christianity/Culdee or Celtic Pelagian. The Aes Dana have preserved their culture for more than 10k years. We practice Ancestor Reverence, veneration of Truth-Justice-FreeWill aka Liberty, veneration of Nature's Law & Nature's God. The Aes Dana are the ancient historical enemies of the Illumined (Alumbrados). This has serious implications for our future due to the Illuminati's hatred of the United States of America - meaning our form of govt, our culture, and our people who uphold it all. The Illumined know who and what created America and why even though most of its inhabitants have forgotten. The alliance that created America is/was called Nature's Crowd. The last personage to refer to the Nature's Crowd alliance was John Boyle O'Reilly in the poem Crispus Attucks.
- America are the beneficiaries and chosen heirs of the Aes Dana. American's were chosen to be the new Guardians based on chosen Nature. What is expected of the Guardians? Defense of Human Life and Potential and a future for all humanity using the tools created for them by the Founders.
- There have for over 200 years been clandestine remnants of Nature's Crowd present in America. The celtic clannod with the hinterlands of America, The First Navy (not a Navy Initiative) created by George Washington tasked with monitoring and hindering the Illuminati, Patton's Proteges - apprentices created by General George S Patton's team after his death to carry on the fight and defense, and last - the Aes Dana clannod (plural for clanns) who moved everyone again to the Western States Oregon Territory in 1850 to avoid the Sons of Loyola (Jesuit Illuminati).
- In 1975 the Aes Dana experience the very last visit from members of the First Navy. They had requested assistance with the corruption and been turned down by the Council. Meeting later with the Ollamh Mor (Great Scholar) at her home, she told them - what they sought had been sent but it would not occur in our time but rather in hers - and pointed at her 5yr old granddaughter sitting on the living room floor. "The tall man in the great dark coat knelt before the last dannan tanist of the clann Dubhagain, and of all the things he could have asked, he made but one request "Help them remember who they are."
- I am one of many "walk-ins" asked to come HOME to help here. I've spent this lifetime trying to understand his request. For it was the reason I was asked to come home....remember time is an illusion. The pieces of the puzzle began in the Aes Dana history and culture. My grandmother taught me in the tradition of the ancient Land Sovereigns to be an Apprentice to Synchronicity, over and above tanist. She believed it was more important to go after the deep water ship we'd helped build for the sake of a universe and a future for this world begun long ago by Jesu. Following this trail laid out so long ago. It has taken me on an adventure thru deep rooted history & traditions, despair of a vanishing people, Ghosttroop, Liberty Community, the USAPs & Aware Military, Retired Law Officers, Militias, Researchers, even the informal modern "shamans" and philosophers of our time and a insidious corruption built by an advanced civilization umbrella over-lord. I have lived more than a thousand lifetimes - my head filled with information and past life experiences. I'm here for the job I was asked to do.
- Truth is stranger than fiction. And frankly this "warrior-nerd" doesn't give a rats ass who believes me. Your belief is not required; explaining any of it is just courtesy.
- I truly hope you are enjoying OMF. It's still here because of all of the above.
- One day we will move beyond all this -- Earth, and even this state of Being...but FIRST there is a life we must live; a huge part of that is we have to survive the bottleneck of our childhood and those who would steal from everyone the future God assigned us, Jesu prepped us for; and those OUT THERE whose own survival will one day depend on us being there.
Source: Dan Smith's Immaterialism 6 thread
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24363
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24363
Cyrellys wrote:99 wrote:Thanks for posting that again here... fascinating read! Erin go Bragh!
"Mere surface shadow and sunshine; while the sounding unifies all!" -- John Boyle O'Reilly.
- Listen carefully to how he describes both sides Illumined and Guardian:
[size=32]Crispus Attucks – Poem by John Boyle O’Reilly[/size]
WHERE shall we seek for a hero, and where shall we find a story?
Our laurels are wreathed for conquest, our songs for completed glory.
But we honor a shrine unfinished, a column uncapped with pride,
If we sing the deed that was sown like seed when Crispus Attucks died.Shall we take for a sign this Negro-slave with unfamiliar name—
With his poor companions, nameless too, till their lives leaped forth in flame?
Yea, sorely, the verdict is not for us, to render or deny;
We can only interpret the symbol; God chose these men to die—
As teachers and types, that to humble lives may chief award be made;
That from lowly ones, and rejected stones, the temple’s base is laid!When the bullets leaped from the British guns, no chance decreed their aim:
Men see what the royal hirelings saw—a multitude and a flame;
But beyond the flame, a mystery; five dying men in the street,
While the streams of severed races in the well of a nation meet!
O, blood of the people! changeless tide, through century, creed and race!
Still one as the sweet salt sea is one, though tempered by sun and place;
The same in the ocean currents, and the same in the sheltered seas;
Forever the fountain of common hopes and kindly sympathies;
Indian and Negro, Saxon and Celt, Teuton and Latin and Gaul—
Mere surface shadow and sunshine; while the sounding unifies all!
One love, one hope, one duty theirs! No matter the time or ken,
There never was separate heart-beat in all the races of men!
But alien is one—of class, not race—he has drawn the line for himself;
His roots drink life from inhuman soil, from garbage of pomp and pelf;
His heart beats not with the common beat, he has changed his life-stream’s hue;
He deems his flesh to be finer flesh, he boasts that his blood is blue:
Patrician, aristocrat, tory—whatever his age or name,
To the people’s rights and liberties, a traitor ever the same.
The natural crowd is a mob to him, their prayer a vulgar rhyme;
The freeman’s speech is sedition, and the patriot’s deed a crime.
Wherever the race, the law, the land,—whatever the time, or throne,
The tory is always a traitor to every class but his own.
Thank God for a land where pride is clipped, where arrogance stalks apart;
Where law and song and loathing of wrong are words of the common heart;
Where the masses honor straightforward strength, and know, when veins are bled,
That the bluest blood is putrid blood—that the people’s blood is red!
And honor to Crispus Attucks, who was leader and voice that day;
The first to defy, and the first to die, with Maverick. Carr, and Gray.
Call it riot or revolution, his hand first clenched at the crown;
His feet were the first in perilous place to pull the king’s flag down;
His breast was the first one rent apart that liberty’s stream might flow;
For our freedom now and forever, his head was the first bid low.
Call it riot or revolution, or mob or crowd, as you may,
Such deaths have been seed of nations, such lives shall be honored for aye.
They were lawless hinds to the lackeys—but martyrs to Paul Revere;
And Otis and Hancock and Warren read spirit and meaning clear.
Ye teachers, answer: what shall be done when just men stand in the dock;
When the caitiff is robed in ermine, and his sworders keep the lock;
When torture is robbed of clemency, and guilt is without remorse;
When tiger and panther are gentler than the Christian slaver’s curse;
When law is a satrap’s menace, and order the drill of a horde—
Shall the people kneel to be trampled, and bare their neck to the sword?
Not so! by this Stone of Resistance that Boston raises here!
By the old North Church’s lantern, and the watching of Paul Revere!
Not so! by Paris of ‘Ninety-Three, and Ulster of ‘NinetyEight!
By Toussaint in St. Domingo! by the horror of Delhi’s gate!
By Adams’s word to Hutchinson! by the tea that is brewing still!
By the farmers that met the soldiers at Concord and Bunker Hill!
Not so! not so! Till the world is done, the shadow of wrong is dread;
The crowd that bends to a lord to-day, to-morrow shall strike him dead.
There is only one thing changeless: the earth steals from under our feet,
The times and manners are passing moods, and the laws are incomplete;
There is only one thing changes not, one word that still survives—
The slave is the wretch who wields the lash, and not the man in gyves!
There is only one test of contract: is it willing, is it good?
There is only one guard of equal right: the unity of blood;
There is never a mind unchained and true that class or race allows;
There is never a law to be obeyed that reason disavows;
There is never a legal sin but grows to the law’s disaster,
The master shall dropp the whip, and the slave shall enslave the master!
O, Planter of seed in thought and deed has the year of right revolved,
And brought the Negro patriot’s cause with its problem to be solved?
His blood streamed first for the building, and through all the century’s years,
Our growth of story and fame of glory are mixed with his blood and tears.
He lived with men like a soul condemned—derided, defamed, and mute;
Debased to the brutal level, and instructed to be a brute.
His virtue was shorn of benefit, his industry of reward;
His love!—O men, it were mercy to have cut affection’s cord;
Through the night of his woe, no pity save that of his fellow-slave;
For the wage of his priceless labor, the scourging block and the grave!
And now, is the tree to blossom? Is the bowl of agony filled?
Shall the price be paid, and the honor said, and the word of outrage stilled?
And we who have toiled for freedom’s law, have we sought for freedom’s soul?
Have we learned at last that human right is not a part but the whole?
That nothing is told while the clinging sin remains part unconfessed?
That the health of the nation is periled if one man be oppressed?
Has he learned—the slave from the rice-swamps, whose children were sold—has he,
With broken chains on his limbs, and the cry in his blood, ‘I am free!’
Has he learned through affliction’s teaching what our Crispus Attucks knew—
When Right is stricken, the white and black are counted as one, not two?
Has he learned that his century of grief was worth a thousand years
In blending his life and blood with ours, and that all his toils and tears
Were heaped and poured on him suddenly, to give him a right to stand
From the gloom of African forests, in the blaze of the freest land?
That his hundred years have earned for him a place in the human van
Which others have fought for and thought for since the world of wrong began?
For this, shall his vengeance change to love, and his retribution burn,
Defending the right, the weak and the poor, when each shall have his turn;
For this, shall he set his woeful past afloat on the stream of night;
For this, he forgets as we all forget when darkness turns to light;
For this, he forgives as we all forgive when wrong has changed to right.
And so, must we come to the learning of Boston’s lesson to-day;
The moral that Crispus Attucks taught in the old heroic way;
God made mankind to be one in blood, as one in spirit and thought;
And so great a boon, by a brave man’s death, is never dearly bought!
— Posted in dedication tothe life and deeds of Lavoy Finicum, a cowboy, rancher, husband, grandfather, who stood and died in the fight against tyranny when the time came – January 26, 2016 Burns Oregon. He wielded the Sword of Renewal in the finest tradition of the natural man, upholding the part of the Oath that says, against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. May he rest in peace.
Poem mirrored from: PoemHunter.com
The sword of Renewal, Cliamh Solais, out of Old Irish legend is more than a weapon: A find tucadh claidhim nuada, ni thernadh nech uadha, O dobetha as a intig bodha, ni gebtha fris?
Translation from Old Irish: “From that bright place (origin of the people) came the Sword of RenewaI, Its singular spirit cannot be escaped.Oh wretched life, (how) you increase when (the sword) is drawn from its sheath.Is it not deserved?” or “It is greatly deserved.”
No longer does the sword seem merely an instrument of battle. A thought or implication of something far greater and considerably more mysterious…In origin, the sword comes from the source of the people. It is of the people and by the creative forces of the people. Its brightness is a signal of illumination of the people, either as source or reflective element. It has a singular, unique spirit. It is also a powerful, immutable force that cannot be overcome. Danann.org
In similar Old Irish vein the Stone of Resistance mentioned in the Crispus Attucks poem, is another somewhat more obscure reference to the Lia Fail. More commonly known as The Stone of Destiny, it is the ancient stone beside which an elected King recited his Oath as a servant of the People, and then placed his hand upon it to which if he gave his Oath truly, it would reciprocate with an affirming cry. To ‘raise the Stone of Resistance’ is metaphor, to give the affirming cry to the Oath given or ‘paid for’ via the death of a hero or Champion in a just cause.
Cyrellys Geibhendach
Source: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24364
99 wrote:Reviewing back over Legacy of the Elder Gods....
Smelly: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/
Cyrellys wrote:99 wrote:Cy, searching the forum on that thread where you mentioned those books on Ancient Ireland that you suggested I read. The author wrote 3 books on that and much of it is information that correlates to your background. Could you post the name of that author again? thanks
Will read that poem and thanks for posting it!
History, References, Culture. It's a triad.
TIDBITS (context) TO KNOW WHILE READING.
To understand a people you need more than simply historical reference, but it IS a place to start.
The traditional culture of America: of Nature's Law & Nature's God - the neurosis of Truth, Life/Justice, and Liberty/Free Will is the culture we inherit from the ancient Aes Dana.
Nature's Crowd is the alliance resurrected over and over as the ancient civil war is re-fought in almost every generation behind the curtain of shadow and sun shine.
Remember that Property is a part of Excellence - a old world virtue. We are not materialists in a modern sense - property is an expression aka proof of achievement.
Old Irish Law is largely Tort Law and Criminal Law. Both are found couched in terms of the proverbial civil contract between individual and civilization or what represents civilization. i.e. relationship between individuals over rights & property, relationship between individuals and govt over rights & property.
We are a post apocalyptic world with a civil war fight between two opposing ideologies (one predatory) over 10K plus years resurfacing over and over.
The Return: the return of the Tuatha Danann to Ireland in the Generation Ships from the safe haven on the four worlds of the Ancients to Earth.
The Tuatha Danann are known by several names: Tuath (singular) or Tuatha (plural) means "Children of" or "Tribe of" Danu.
-- Danu was a pre-deluvian woman who was what we today would call a "librarian". She was among the survivors the military picked up during the final cataclysm which included artisans, teachers, smith-crafters aka slaves of the wheel aka engineers, farmer, husbandry-men (livestock), physicians, etc. Aes Dana practice ancestry reverence - she became the leader of the People (aka Mother) who helped them survive the life & trauma of losing their world and civilization. That ship and others took survivors to the four worlds of the Ancients to survive the cataclysm happening on Earth. Only some of the descendants of those survivors returned to Earth - landed on Ireland and Mainland Europe scuttling their ships in the ocean to keep them out of Scythian/Fomor hands. The Scythian/Fomors - still had just enough technology to have operated those ships if they could have obtained access to them.
Cashel is the Sister capital of Eirenn in ancient times (Munster/Mumhan) and the land of Feara Maighe (Fermoy) is in Cashel granted autonomy by the Eoghannachta to the Dubhagain for the right won in their defense by the Dubhagain ancestor Mogh Ruith for the injustice wrought by the YOUNG king Cormac mac Airt. This defense and their continued honorable choice of nature won the Eogannacht also the patronage of Aine of the Aes Dana and her descendants until the coming of the Red Haired Queen in England when the English took over Ireland.
The Red Haired Queen (Good Queen Bess; Elizabeth I) fought the Illuminati/Alumbrados/Jesuits of Spain via an alliance with the Privateers of Sir Francis Drake and the sea Queen Grace O'Malley, granting Letters of Marque and Reprisal to go after the Spanish Gold Ships in the Caribbean. This set the stage for the arguments over sovereignty and trade in later America.
Upon the death of Good Queen Bess, the Norman English overlords sided with Illumined and hunted the Old Irish in Ireland while also fighting the new crown in England,. Caught between them and the English troops, the Council of the Aes Dana (Scribes of Fermoy) directed Ambrose Geibhendach the last elected High King to make the arrangements to evacuate all the Aes Dana to the new world. Thus the Laconia Company established at Strawberry Banks/Great Works/modern Portsmouth under land treaty for tenured use via the Native American Sachem and the Company grant via Lord Groghe of the English Crown, all funded by John Mason. Each Aes Dana individual to serve a mandatory period of labor to this company for a period of 5 years. Ambrose was the first proctor of the Laconia Colony Company see The Jewett Texts.
Books:
- C.E.L.T.: (document collection) Corpus of Electronic Texts University of Ireland
- The Druids by Peter Berresford Ellis
- The Last Dannan
- On Abaris & Pythagoras: the root of Pelagianism
- The Counsels of Cormac: An Ancient Irish Guide to Leadership - by Cormac mac Airt a new translation by Thomas Cleary
- FOUNDING AMERICA: Documents from the Revolution to the Bill of Rights - Introduction and notes by Jack N. Rakov (see the Declaration of Causes & Necessities of Taking Up Arms 1775)
- The American Ideology by Brian Vanyo
- Common Sense, Rights of Man, and other Essential Writings by Thomas Paine
- Second Treatise on Government by John Locke
- The Meaning of Our American Creed
- [url=Blackstone on the Absolute Right of Individuals 1753][/url]William Blackstone on the Rights of the Individual 1753
- American Civics A Text Book for High Schools by Forgotten Books
- Three Rights by Edwin Vieira Jr.
- Brehon Law - “True Judgement“ How Young Cormac Mac Airt was Recognised as King _ Brehon Law Academy - Ancient Ireland's Laws and Customs
- Brehon Law Handbook
- The Testament of Morann
- The Lost Legal System: Pre-Common Law Ireland and the Brehon Law - Dr Noelle Higgins, Lecturer, School of Law and Government, Dublin City University, Ireland
- Values (part 4) by Tairis
- Legacy of the Elder Gods by M Don Schorn
- Celtic Women by Peter Berresford Ellis
- Celtic Myths and Legends by Peter Berresford Ellis
- Causes and Conseqences of the American Revolution by Esmond Wright
- The Jewett Texts - The Old Town of Berwick by Sarah Orne Jewett
I was a listener in the woods,
I was a gazer at the stars,
I was not blind where secrets were concerned,
I was silent in a wilderness,
I was talkative among many,
I was mild in the mead-hall,
I was stern in battle,
I was gentle towards allies,
I was a physician of the sick,
I was weak towards the feeble,
I was strong towards the powerful,
I was not parsimonious lest I should be burdensome,
I was not arrogant though I was wise,
I was not given to vain promises though I was strong,
I was not unsafe though I was swift,
I did not deride the old though I was young,
I was not boastful though I was a good fighter,
I would not speak about any one in their absence,
I would not reproach, but I would praise,
I would not ask, but I would give.
-- Cormac Mac Cuileannain, King and Poet of Cashel, AD 836-908
(compare to his forerunner Cormac mac Airt "the Counsels of Cormac") Transmission of knowledge example.
Morrigu's Song in Triumph to Danu (excerpt)
Peace mounts to the Heavens
The Divine Waters descend to Earth
And fructifies our lives
Earth lies under the Heavens
We are of the Earth now
And Everyone is Strong...
It is not enough to just see and recite History. One must know and understand what they see. Truth is hidden in plain sight.
We "be of one blood thou and I" is what is said by way of a greeting between Old Worlders. Why? Because the Illumined are adulterated.
O hear the call good hunting all, who keep the Jungle Law [Nature's Law]. Kipling is the usually the first introduction to our children's discourse and study on Natural Law.
To every war there is always two sides. Most know the enemy. But do you know the other side? From the other side you inherit a nation. It's a Republic madam IF you can keep it.
Cyrellys
Source: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24367
*****
Cyrellys wrote:For Dan, my cailleoir friend,
BINGO.Dan wrote:By cutting themselves off from the Source, they have cut themselves off from the vital force.
(snip)
The last I checked, the only beings were persons.
The World was created by the Word....
Nature or the universe is controlled by logos, the "Word", or "reason", which was "Truth" and synonymous with "godhead".
In the beginning was the "Word" [Logos], and the "Word" [Logos] was with God, and the "Word" [Logos] was God.
"Word", Reason, Truth, God...it's ALL Conscious...Pure Awen...pure inspiration.
The Vedas say, "by means of Truth, the Earth endures".
For both Druids and Brahmins, the life-giving principle and sustaining power was the Word or Truth, the ultimate cause for All-Being.
Salute!
Cy
Source: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t355p875-immaterialism-6#24370
Wikileaks - J. Assange's last hurrah?
Doc Dump 04/13/2019
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/
Doc Dump 04/13/2019
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/
We've almost finished the relocation to the new house here. I'm going to be offline for a week or so until I get the internet set up and can get above the mess. 99 & Dan are in charge till I get back. If anyone has a question please go to them. I'll be back as soon as possible!
P.S. a huge welcome to all the new members this month!
P.S. a huge welcome to all the new members this month!
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