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By the way, I would probably be divorced right now if it weren't for Smelly challenging me to take the harder path.

But then again if I were to have gotten divorced that would have been what was meant to be....

shrug

Where you should be is always where you are.

Muppets run from pain, Gods stand like statues.

Divorce is only cheating yourself out of opportunity for growth.

The person who pushes your buttons the most or who you have the greatest conflict with is your greatest guru.

We can choose peace in any given conflict situation, no matter how challenging or contentious it may be.

When there is conflict, the egoic self just wants to be right, but the way to peace is to commit to being kind rather than right.

Instead of trying to always be right we can choose to be kind and at peace instead.

When you find yourself in a relationship with contentious people, and you find yourself being able to be at peace when they push those buttons, you will know that the reason they showed up in your life in the first place is to teach you honor your own worthiness to abide in peace and kindness at all times.

Those that challenge us the most are often our greatest teachers.

Aaron wrote:Divorce is only cheating yourself out of opportunity for growth.

The person who pushes your buttons the most or who you have the greatest conflict with is your greatest guru.

We can choose peace in any given conflict situation, no matter how challenging or contentious it may be.

When there is conflict, the egoic self just wants to be right, but the way to peace is to commit to being kind rather than right.

Instead of trying to always be right we can choose to be kind and at peace instead.

When you find yourself in a relationship with contentious people, and you find yourself being able to be at peace when they push those buttons, you will know that the reason they showed up in your life in the first place is to teach you honor your own worthiness to abide in peace and kindness at all times.

Those that challenge us the most are often our greatest teachers.

I see cracks of wisdom in this muppet pretender, quickly, get the glue gun!

Good, you are paying attention.

The way to peace is the way to peace.

A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving.

The way to peace is non-action and non judgement.

Where you should be is always where you are, even if that is a state of conflict or anger.

Do what though wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will.

The way is the way.

There is no secret formula.

We have everything we need now and we learn and receive exactly what we need when we need it.

Do not commit to kindness, commit to trust in what is now.

Does this Smelly Goat always have his sniffer out sniffing for pretenders?

Nothing gets by him.

Good

As far as worthiness goes, worthy is a muppet word because it denotes judgement.

Judgement is for mind serpents.

It still stings a little pretender, doesn’t it, bahahaha, that’s just your ego fuckin wid you.

Let it pass over you is all of it.

Very good Buddha

Smile bitches

Just when you think you are done with Choronzon...

You can't let your guard down for even a second.

Keeping him out of the circle requires staying frosty and on your toes.

Beware of opinions and snakes.

Stay frosty but keep your Dude robe loose and open.

It's good to have a Goat companion to keep you on your toes.

No one worthy here.

I’m one of the goats, I’m supposed to burn in fire for my sins foreva.

Ask Dan.

But maybe that’s not a bad thing.

It is a fire that burns foreva they say.

The biggest trick of Choronzon is that you can’t get away.

—The Condemned Goat



Aaron, just be the glorious mess that we all are and let it be enough.

No trying now.

Wei Wu Wei bitch, my only student can’t remember shit.

I’m a horrible guru, but a damn fine goat.

Actually Dan was my first pigeon, you were 2 or 3

Wei Wu Wei.

It takes practice to keep your mind empty.

Or fill it with beautiful things and acts of heroism and compassion AND a little evil

Why not, you are alive now, enjoy it.

dan wrote:I don’t think that smelly sufficiently appreciates my job as a story teller.  

Mine is the story of the Ouroboros..... wrapped around the Earth.  I don’t do magic.  I don’t do channeling.  I make up stories....... the best possible stories.  I do borrow stories, whenever possible.

Where's the end to your stories?

You've got the first act set up, but are stuck in a sagging second act mid-way muddle. You tell a shaggy dog that never ends, never even makes it to a third act climax. It just goes on and on and on in circles.

Aaron,
Interesting that you mentioned divorce. I posted the poem below a couple of weeks back when we were discussing your wife and children and your attachment (non-attachment?) thereof. I wrote this poem years ago, as I was going through my divorce, well before I ever met Alan Watts or Zen or had any real knowledge of the Way. Certainly before UFOs, aliens, and OMF.

cwallatruth wrote:He was young and stupid, but smart and sure
There was nothing left to imagine when he saw her
As his heart let go of his childhood, it grabbed on to his future and made it his present
They laughed and loved, with no worry about the past or future
The future eventually seized them
It awoke them to their mortal reality
As the planet spun and the leaves died, so their hearts spun and their youth died
When will the heart stabilize and which direction will it point
The dark, still ocean has no horizon, no direction
At the end of each horizon is death and dust, so direction doesn’t matter
It’s how the wind will blow, not where and not why
It blows as a hurricane at 200 miles per hour wreaking havoc on your ship
It blows as one would imagine god to breathe, with love and courage and peace
Your ship is one of billions already sunk, sitting on the bottom
Some made it to the beach, some never saw the beach, and some never wanted the beach
The beach is an illusion
The illusion is reality
The journey can be made as one or as two
The heart spins faster, its position more and more uncertain
But the leaves always come back to life
He is old and stupid, but smart and sure

I spoke with Aaron, last evening.......

The main point of contention concerned the question of urgency with regard to Disclosure.  

Aaron claimed to be unaware of any urgency.  That leaves me incredulous.  I wonder if this state of complacency is something endemic to the Mormon community, even amongst its more free thinking members.

The mere possibility of urgency relative to Disclosure is something that must be acknowledged by any thoughtful person, in my considered opinion.  Whether or not the sense of urgency need be endorsed is another matter.  

Are my hands not tied on this matter.......?  

How can I evangelize for Disclosure, when, according to the BPWH, the best possible Disclosure scenario has been in place since the beginning of time?  

Is the cosmic Disclosure scenario begging for my participation?  That’s possible.  

Does our lack of free will render my passion for Disclosure impotent?  Well, even if impotent, that fact need not preclude my effort, acting in good faith.  

Does our lack of free will render all conversation otiose?  That makes no sense either.  The WE ARE/I AM is based on a passion for existence, and for fulfillment.  Are we simply going through the motions, after the fact?  

Whatever passion we feel in the moment must somehow partake of the cosmic vital force, manifested in the WE ARE.  That’s good enough for us, now, sports fans.  

Our interpersonal essence demands that our passions be shared..... with urgency, perhaps even a great Urgency.  

Our passion is simply a manifestation of our understanding of our communion in Truth.  This is what life is all about.  Science was the Grand Deception, the Grand Occlusion of that Truth.  We now proceed to awaken ourselves from the slumber of materialism.  

There are those on this forum who oppose any concerted effort directed toward such an Awakening.  They will help those who make the request.  This is a very passive approach to ‘word of mouth’ Disclosure, or WoM/MoAPS.  

This passive approach might well suffice, were there no urgency.  

The question of urgency is the issue before us.  

Under the Aegis of Science, there was a global optimism with regard to material progress.  There are many signs of a breaking down of this regime of material optimism.  In many instances, hopes are being outweighed by fear.  

What should most concern us is a possible contagion of fear and distrust. This contagion is most likely to manifest in a breakdown of the global economic credit system, as fear displaces greed amongst the moneyed set.  

Can we afford another economic panic, a-la 2008? We have much less of a credit cushion than we had last time.



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Mormons are definitely not complacent. Mormons have great urgency to share the good word and proclaim their version of the truth as the one and only fullness of truth.

The Mormon church has 65,000 full time missionaries out there going door to door teaching, converting and baptizing.

In 2004-2006 I served a full time mission myself in Mongolia. I baptized over 100 people in those two years. On the mission you wake up at 6:30, study the scriptures and language for 2 hours, then you are out the door preaching and teaching until 9:30 pm. The only breaks are for eating lunch and dinner and one day out of the week for laundry and grocery shopping and chores. TV, music, and any other books besides scriptures are all strictly forbidden. You are only allowed to preach the word, teach the word, or do service projects for those in need. This is the kind of urgency we are talking about with the Mormon church.

My lack of urgency now comes from observing nature and embracing my one real guiding principle which I feel is closely alligned with nature and the way things are. That principle is the principle of non-action and the principle of do what though wilt shall be the whole of the law, love is the law, love under will. It makes me feel sick to my stomach now to try and tell someone else how they should live or what they should believe unless they are a seeker and are actually looking for guidance I will not engage.

I trust that everything and everyone is as it should be now.

To do otherwise would be to live in a world of fantasy and illusions.

That means that if Dan feels an urgency to evangelesize disclosure I trust him in that moment that he is doing what he feels must be done.

Ugh, that last post feels pretend now.

Gotta stay frosty.

Straight on.

It's one thing to be silent while being silent, it's another thing to be silent while talking.

Its a very narrow blade you have to walk and it takes time to fully adapt and integrate.

I appreciate, Aaron, that you were burned out by your previous bout of evangelism.  

I burned out on physics, back in 1966.  It took me ten years to regroup my strength, and this was without the pressing concerns of family.  

I understand the attraction and solace of Wu Wei, to those of us who feel burned out.  

Let nature take its course......?  Ask yourself, if we belong to nature, or does nature belong to us.  

The notion of stewardship may also be smoldering from your conflagration.  I guess that is why you are choosing to move on...... to move out of the line of Fire......

Hahaha.

Dan, you need to catch up.

You are light years behind.

Your urgency is a sure sign of your confusion.

Do what though wilt Dan, I have no need to prove anything.

If you feel to be urgent then be urgent. You will learn what you need to learn.

I feel no urgency whatsoever.

Dan's firm belief in "no free will" suggests he may actually be an unacknowledged Many Worlds/Multiverse advocate seeking to protect his conscious awareness from the MBBWH (Mind-Blowing Big World Hypothesis) by the pragmatic application of MBBWH location uncertainty (Dan refers to this location uncertainty as the BPW).

There is of course no urgency Dan.

Urgency is tied to thought and goals.

Who has goals and for what

But there is a Quickening, which you call passion.

The Quickening has me writing everyday and making art.

The Quickening has shown me the breath is your foundation.

If you feel something, worth exploring.

Dan wrote:...has been in place since the beginning of time?

Then relax Dan.

Cosmic Disclosure is begging for all our participation.

You will do your best work relaxed, loosen up my man.

We are capable of a lot individually when connected to Awareness.

More than we could ever imagine.

It just works.

Things happen and fall into place.

I have seen it enough now not to worry or rush anything.

If you want to work on a good project, how about removing the need for the Doomsday clock?

Disclosure could trigger your worst case, no?

We can’t let circumstances sway us, we accept them.

That’s putting your money where your mouth is.

Accepting is a lot harder sometimes than doing.

I do feel sorrow because all the suffering and greed and confusion in the world but I'm not confused about what that means for me or my role in the best possible world.

We do our best work helping others find more peace in their life. How can we help others find peace if we are not at peace? If we have a great sense of urgency we are not at peace.

Aaron wrote:Hahaha.

Dan, you need to catch up.

You are light years behind.

Your urgency is a sure sign of your confusion.

Do what though wilt Dan, I have no need to prove anything.

If you feel to be urgent then be urgent. You will learn what you need to learn.

I feel no urgency whatsoever.

Agree.

"Burn't out on physics"

Perhaps that is due to Your eternal self KNOWING it's mostly garbage?

I have high confidence in this mans physics.



http://milesmathis.com/cycle.pdf


There is only one disclosure...…..The truth.


We are all one, one system, but have been persuaded to forget the system.


hobbit

Wise furry footed hobbit.

smelly wrote:Wise furry footed hobbit.

All hairs are antennae...fleece covered goat.


hobbit

your life is your life
don’t let it be clubbed into dank submission.
be on the watch.
there are ways out.
there is light somewhere.
it may not be much light but
it beats the darkness.
be on the watch.
the gods will offer you chances.
know them.
take them.
you can’t beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.
your life is your life.
know it while you have it.
you are marvelous
the gods wait to delight
in you.

-- by Charles Bukowski

If you’re going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don’t even start.
This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind.
It could mean not eating for three or four days.
It could mean freezing on a park bench.
It could mean jail.
It could mean derision.
It could mean mockery — isolation.
Isolation is the gift.
All the others are a test of your endurance, of how much you really want to do it. And, you’ll do it, despite rejection and the worst odds.
And it will be better than anything else you can imagine.
If you’re going to try, go all the way.
There is no other feeling like that.
You will be alone with the gods, and the nights will flame with fire.
You will ride life straight to perfect laughter.
It’s the only good fight there is.

--by Charles Bukowski