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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by hobbit on Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:41 am

First topic message reminder :

Dan,

I had no previous knowledge of, or intent to achieve that which occurred.

I climbed on top of a portal chamber (hence My interest in anything portal related) to photograph a crop circle adjacent....
When this reality went and I tripped across into the most fabulous none physical dimension of indescribeable Mandelbrot scene with sounds not of this world.
My physical suddenly began to be upset as I didn't exist, or the earth below.
I was still wondering and asking who are You to my physical entity when a third Me began talking and telling me to be calm and repeat what ever it told Me, which was it was Me from 5D.

I had lots explained, but can only recall that which I repeated .
All of this time My physical entity was really quite funny telling the other two to shut up and it wanted to be back in 3D.

My higher self ( in 5d) is that called father.
My 3D self ( physical) is Earth to be.
My 4D self is ( consciousness) spirit, as such.

I didn't want to return , the love is immense.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:43 pm

I’m being mesmerized, at Goucher College no less...... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_Day_(Jewish_band)

I’ve warned Ron about my inner Jew.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:57 pm

Whoa Dan, major synchronicity!

Me too.

This might be relevant to you.

I was just watching one of my fav Hasids.



You messing with me Dan Wink

That was a good psychic ping pong.

Perhaps we are the Elohim Malachim.

Therefore, as Living Light, we don't merely exist, we are "alive"!
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Post by dan on Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:21 am

I like Grant, but it does seem that we’re about to take him to school.  

Maybe the stuff that will be happening by the lake, this week will be kept under wraps, but that may  not be easy.  

I’d better give Doug a heads up, if he’s also not in the loop.  Grant might listen to him.  

I’ve been texting to Doug.  He may be back in Mexico.  I’ll see if I can get through to Katarina.  


9:10........

As Debbie would say, my hair is on fire.  I’m texting this out as an APB.  

I’ve gotten one response, so far.  I’ll go with that.....

Anyone else.......?  Just give me a call.......


1:40.........

The response to my APB has been cautious.   An example would be Jack Sarfatti.  Jack will be leaving soon for London.  At one point he was in the loop with the TSA group, but lately they have gone quiet.  He knows the background on the SLC operation, and could not believe that it could be revitalized on short notice.  We were also both aware of the lack of coordination between Hal and Ron.  We’re both mystified.  Basically, he would have to be personally shown a working device or be given a stakeholding.  Off to London it is.  


5.........

I realize that Grant has already devoted much of his valuable time to aviary related matters.  I’m just making sure that he wouldn’t feel slighted by not being given a heads up on any particular further developments...... we certainly owe it to him to make the effort to keep communications open.  

As, hopefully, things continue to move forward there will be no lack of jockeying for position. A minimum of competition can be helpful.

The international dimension could be daunting, nonetheless.

Many insist that we’re not ready, and we will never be. Certainly, smelly has justified reservations. The spontaneous processes will have to take up most of the slack, and they will be rather more tamper proof.



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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:53 pm

I don’t really have any reservations about anything Dan, nor would they matter.

I trust the process of non-action.

For I blissfully have no position, nor one to jockey for.

I get to watch.

I was always the one to jump into the unknown.

Been there, it’s not unknown to me anymore.

I know each has to find their own way to Self.

Which is just letting things happen naturally and not judging it.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:44 pm

My questions, today, have focused on the security of the various kinds of portals......

My security concerns, relative to possible abuse of portals, have partially alleviated, but many questions remain.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Nunia.binus on Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:13 pm

Has anyone stepped into/through the portal down by the lake yet?
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Post by dan on Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:28 pm

Kevin was warned not to step into the portal, when he first thought about visiting the lake.  

I haven’t heard about anyone stepping into it, since the upgrade.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by 99 on Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Why not just fly a dove through it and see what happens?
But before trying that, maybe a paper airplane?
Or, a rock?
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:22 pm

99,

Good idea.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sign on Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:02 am

Hi All. Hope you don't mind me butting in on the conversation. You will have to bare with me I'm not very good at expressing myself in words.

There is a lot of talk about understanding the UFO phenomenon and its consciousness apparently.  That may be so. but I think as a species we are a long way away from that.

Grant Cameron in his video says he has moved away from the "NUT & BOLTS"  but its nut & bolts & the technologies that go with the UFO phenomenon that the Human race needs.. We all need to try and find away of getting the Government to speed up the release of these technologies gained from our visitors and tell us they exist.

As Grant as said numerous times the Tom Delonge releases are just another wave.  These releases are pitiful. If this is what the American  Government thinks is disclosure they will not get very far.  The average person just laughs these off.  

What I want to know is "When" are we going to get some Real Discloser.  THE PLANET and we need them before its too late.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GSB/SSR on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:09 am

Dan, you should be more concerned about 'what' steps out of a portal rather than who steps in, IMHO!

Chase me, catch me if you can
It was really close (dangerous)
But, I already left there
(Where will I go this time?)
Chase me, yes, find me
No one can stop me
So that you can’t catch me anymore
I’ll secretly hide in another dream




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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by GSB/SSR on Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:48 am

On the other hand, you might want to be a bit careful near the portal entrance!



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Post by dan on Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:52 am

Signman,

Real Disclosure........? We need it.....?

(And thank you for reposting your PM over to the forum, so that we can all try to be on the same page.)



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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:29 am

We don’t NEED anything.

More is not the answer.

More is evil, evil is necessary and forever here, accept it and its role and what its presence means, an opposite to be balanced.

We are all plenty good and plenty evil.

Who’s judging?

Can anyone really control techne?

As with all matter, techne reflects intent.

The problem is not our need, but our intent, and it’s not a problem, just evolving.

Pursuing needful things is how we are controlled, as the Devil well knows.

A Human Being must learn to live with abundance and scarcity.

It’s not total chaos in the world ever, there is the best amount of control in the system, but always much chaos.

We judge these things and give them power over us.

Who says we aren’t ready now?

I feel any are ready, any second.

What do we need?

The Earth provides for our needs.

We each have something unique to give.

We have all we need in our hands already.

We aren’t getting more to squander.

Plain for any Fool to see.

We have to make it work with the elements at hand now.

So gather your elements already present in your life.

You think you’re being prepped for a portal encounter?

True, we are always being prepared for our last ride through that dark portal of the soul.

Death will deliver us or it will be a big bust at the bottom of the drain.

Think you can learn not to fear Death and thrive, I think we can.

That’s my faith in the process peeking through.

Idealism may be the way forward until they can stand solo, reformulated around Cosmos and not just Humanity.

Humanity is Cosmos and Cosmos is Human through us.
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Post by dan on Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:55 am

Thank you, smelly,

I can agree with much of what you say.  It can be said a bit more positively, especially from the point of view of the Best Possible World.  

Point of fact is that I am being encouraged to get more in touch with the other ufologists.  The idea is to have a better understanding of each other’s thinking, as, apparently we continue along a disclosure track.  


1:15.........

Well, yes, Signman, some degree of patience is required.  

I’m mainly hoping that disclosure comes before someone drops a bomb.  

The current focus of disclosure, to my knowledge, is in Salt Lake City........

The summit meeting has been going all week, and will be running into next week.  The main demonstration is supposed to be today.  

There is a definite mixture of opinion as to how much of the device’s performance is due to physics, and how much is due to to metaphysics.  

If today is successful, news will get out, one way or the other.  

Joe is very concerned with circulating currents.  I’m willing to concede that there may be electro-mechanical configurations that facilitate portal phenomena.  But, ultimately, there is magic involved, and you cannot have magic without magicians being involved.  


One modification of my thinking was that Aliyah was not directly involved with the SLC phenomenon.  She is only involved with portals accessing the hive.  Other portals are confined to (intra)terrestrial locations.  They can more readily be upgraded, however.  

Other countries do not currently have access to either kind.  

I did press further on the security and misuse concerns.  It is pretty clear that I am not the only one.  I mean that in a positive sense..... security is integral to the whole phenomenon.  

I get the impression that the global trade war may not be entirely independent of these other considerations.  There is much jockeying for pole positions.  

The sharp elbows under the basket may not bode well for cooperation in inner space.  It’s a good thing that this is not just a cosmic experiment.  Things work out, in the shuffle....... birth pangs, metamorphosis, etc.  


3.........

The take away from all this, Signman, is that we dealing with an intraplanetary phenomenon....... not interplanetary.  

A wee hint of what we’re dealing with comes from the Concave Earth Hypothesis....... formerly known as the hollow earth theory.  Yes, it’s about hobbit holes.  I hope the hobbits and cheetahs don’t mind too much.  We’re mainly just concerned with a transit passage..... back to the Source, if you will.  The Earth is it’s own rabbit hole, IOW.  

These intra-, inner spaces maybe be better modeled by topology than be geometry, even more than by multidimensional geometry..... more akin to the internet, perhaps, than to an arena.




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Post by Sign on Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:03 am

My thinking is i'll be dead before disclosure happens if its not sped up a little

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Post by hobbit on Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:40 am

Signman wrote:My thinking is i'll be dead before disclosure happens if its not sped up a little

Arr do there t'old flower, thee alreet?

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Post by Sign on Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:47 am

Hobbit

https://www.lushtshirts.co.uk/pages/learn-geordie-geordie-sayings-and-phrases

Signman Im Alreet thank you . LOL

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Post by hobbit on Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:10 am

Leeds loiner meeself.
Hav't friends who live near't morpeth.



https://www.timeout.com/leeds/blog/15-leeds-and-yorkshire-slang-terms-explained

poor Yanky doodle sods will be thinking there in't alternate universe altready.

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Post by Sign on Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:17 am

Just wish the Yankee doodles would fly the TR3B over Newcastle so i could take a picture and prove the bugger exists to wer lass
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by smelly on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:21 pm

Dan, the things high are always brought low and the low will always raised up.

The Cosmos will balance it all, you need waste no concern on security or fairness.

The slippery ego can’t cheat and we are all quite tired of its misunderstandings.

I am content to provide a counter balance of non-concern when I can.

We all have a stake here.

Being passive and receptive brings clarity of mind.

“Lao Tzu says: The way of the Tao is a watercourse way. It moves like water. What is the movement of water? or of a river? The movement has a few beautiful things about it. One, it always moves towards the depth, it always searches for the lowest ground. It is non-ambitious; it never hankers to be the first, it wants to be the last. Remember, Jesus says: Those who are the last here will be the first in my kingdom of God. He is talking about the watercourse way of Tao--not mentioning it, but talking about it. Be the last, be non-ambitious. Ambition means going uphill. Water goes down, it searches for the lowest ground, it wants to be a nonentity. It does not want to declare itself unique, exceptional, extraordinary. It has no ego idea.”

Good advice and a challenge for the western mind to accept that the Cosmos is based on Magick.

What a wonderful thing to explore and lose oneself in.

There is no thought for your own welfare really when acceptance comes or gain.

None at all.

Those seem like caveman toys now.

So many chances to see your Self here now.

Anywhere you look Wink

Not long now and you have to move no where to realize it.

It drips from every moment now like orange marmalade.

Sweet and sticky.

One might say things flow like honey.

My how the birds do talk and gossip.

Good day to all.

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Post by Nunia.binus on Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:49 pm

Dan, any hints on the procedure and type of probe being used to deduce where the SLC portal leads given that nobody has gone through?, i.e. maybe one of Princess' drones? Or did they take 99's suggestion and send a dove. How was it determined that it is intraterrestrial. Did someone report a dove appearing out of thin air in China?

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Post by Nunia.binus on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:48 pm

P.S.: any hints in general terms as to the invite list to the summit meeting? Mostly within the new corp, or is there military, politician, scientist, Hollywood, international participation as well. Any TTSA representation? Approximate # of attendees? Thanks for bearing with our nagging curiosity Smile

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Post by Sign on Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:54 am

Dan, Thanks for the replies.

I agree that patience maybe what is needed and maybe we need to be drip fed disclosure. (But the tap does not drip very often) Mad

I & a few here and ones following this forum most probably feel things have been hidden way to long.

Just hope that the members of the Salt Lake City........ meeting are following this .. because as one of the planets know bodies he wants things sped up  alien  alien
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Post by dan on Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:48 am

Eric/smelly,

Wait one minute....... Lao Tzu was a lengendary figure.  Where are the quotes coming from?  

Anyway, this fellow, LT, is saying, in effect...... from dust to dust..... which is in the Bible.    

Ok.  But your LT is saying more than that.  He is saying that we paddle to the Sea.  He is an impersonal monist.  I believe that this is a logical error...... an error concerning the Logos, if you will.  

You poor, benighted goat, Eric.  You and your fellow traveling pantheists.  

Let’s start at the beginning......

Why is there something, rather than nothing....?  

It’s like this........ It’s much easier to imagine something than nothing.  In fact, it’s impossible to imagine nothing.  It’s impossible to empty one’s mind.  

People claim to do this all the time....... wonderful.  Ok, sure, empty your consciousness, and then let me see you empty your unconscious. Hmmm.......

So, when we paddle to the Sea, we’re paddling to the Unconscious.  

What is the Unconscious.....? Among other things, it is pure Potentia. And what is that?

My simple claim is that Potentia is limited only by (logical) Possibility.



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