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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by hobbit on Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:41 am

First topic message reminder :

Dan,

I had no previous knowledge of, or intent to achieve that which occurred.

I climbed on top of a portal chamber (hence My interest in anything portal related) to photograph a crop circle adjacent....
When this reality went and I tripped across into the most fabulous none physical dimension of indescribeable Mandelbrot scene with sounds not of this world.
My physical suddenly began to be upset as I didn't exist, or the earth below.
I was still wondering and asking who are You to my physical entity when a third Me began talking and telling me to be calm and repeat what ever it told Me, which was it was Me from 5D.

I had lots explained, but can only recall that which I repeated .
All of this time My physical entity was really quite funny telling the other two to shut up and it wanted to be back in 3D.

My higher self ( in 5d) is that called father.
My 3D self ( physical) is Earth to be.
My 4D self is ( consciousness) spirit, as such.

I didn't want to return , the love is immense.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by 99 on Sat May 05, 2018 8:17 am

[The info was slipping out of his hands that he even reached out to the "traitorous" Julian Assange... to try to torpedo TTS.... } ~ AP

AP, and you don't think that Ron and co won't try to 'torpedo' your own Disclosure initiative too? Since the beginning of the UFO era, the gov't has been as evasive as a skunk at noon about UFOs and they have been actively complicit in suppressing information and deploying disinformation campaigns especially on the internet. Once you get your program off and running, just being here and posting updates on it puts your entire Disclosure endeavor at risk.
You can butter up Dan all you want but always remember that Ron and Dan are like two pea's in a pod. Dan may not always agree with Ron but he's more than just his messenger... these guys are practically family.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Sat May 05, 2018 8:18 am

dan wrote:If I have no background info...... I’m being blindsided.  

I can appreciate that. But not sure what I can do about it...

dan wrote:I haven’t been able to figure out just what the problem is.

From what I can glean, you think disclosure should be consciousness-driven and Ron believes it should be technology-driven.

Is it accurate to say that you and Ron (and Princess) are central decision-makers when it comes to how disclosure will play out?

dan wrote: let’s play kick the can.

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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 8:26 am

Look, I’m no expert on Disclosure.  

Maybe a rattling cage is the kindest way to put your foot in the door.  Better that than a beast or a ghost.  But let’s talk this out like the rational civilized folks that we can be.


99,

Would I authorize Ron to take AP out behind the woodshed......?

That depends on whether or not AP does his homework. He’s done about an hour’s worth. I would give him a C- or a D+. That’s not good enough, not even for gummint work.


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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Z on Sat May 05, 2018 8:31 am

99
I love you so much ...you're so wise...
If you were doing what we are doing, would you have put safeguards in place before you even started?
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Plus ....
Sometimes you get a little help from DOING THE RIGHT THING..... and often times because of that ....you get a little help from "beyond"....

Plus,..if we all join together ....no one can stop us ....because it's ALL US!!

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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 8:41 am

It would only be fair for me to give Ron the right of first refusal.  No?  

As for the Buddies, the Steves and the Joes.........

It’s the blind leading the blind.  That’s what we’ve been trying to do, for the past 70 years, and where has it gotten us?  Right here.  

Buddy is just full of love, but he has no clue, except to love us all to death. He’s rather like smelly, in that regard...... totally unbalanced.

Most, however, are totally suspicious of the PtB/CIA....... as well they might be.




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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by 99 on Sat May 05, 2018 8:42 am

I probably will join up AP. I mean, why not? I think the more programs there are like yours out there, the better. And then someday, when things all come home to roost, all of these orgs, yours included, will then come together to put up a powerful united front for full Disclosure from all of the gov't's around the world including those corporate entities that are collaborating with them.

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sweet Release on Sat May 05, 2018 8:52 am

dan wrote:Maybe a rattling cage is the kindest way to put your foot in the door.  Better that than a beast or a ghost.  But let’s talk this out like the rational civilized folks that we can be.

I guess, right now, I'm unskillfully representing the millions or maybe billions of disenfranchised folks who would like to engage in a rational and civilized discussion on the best way to go about it, but who feel (overtly or intuitively) that the entire future direction of humanity rests in the hands of a select few individuals.
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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 8:57 am

99,

Yes, I would encourage you to join the merry gang.  You can do no harm.  

Just so long as you realize that it will do no good, either.


ME,

Disenfranchised.......?  

Well, yes, we’ve been alienated from the truth, alienated from ourselves, and alienated from our Source.  

But I’m under the distinct impression that this was part of the bargain, from the beginning.

We had the choice...... we could be angels or critters. We made the obvious choice...... the right choice.



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Post by Z on Sat May 05, 2018 9:02 am

99
BAM!


Dan....
I wouldn't be too sure about the "no good" part..... even if we do nothing else but spread more of the word of love...isnt that alone worthy!

" id rather be a fool for love...than wise for any other reason"

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by 99 on Sat May 05, 2018 9:05 am

[Just so long as you realize that it will do no good, either.] ~ Dan

Dan, you are wrong about that. You can't throw a dead cat without hitting a Tom Delonge interview and those on You Tube who are supportive of his mission. There's plenty of room for others out there to start their own similar organizations too. Delonge and others are making a real impact on the Disclosure front and unless you've been living under a rock since December, anyone with a brain can see that. Smile
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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 9:12 am

99,

I can swing a dead cat and hit a thousand times as many folk who would like to see the charade continue, forever and a day.  And this includes especially the folks who are yelling the loudest for ‘Disclosure’.

The truth is within, but we have become so alienated from ourselves that we cannot believe that we could harbor anything so precious.

We look for truth in all the wrong places.

By leading people away from the truth within, you are leading them in precisely the wrong direction. Shame on you.




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Post by 99 on Sat May 05, 2018 9:23 am

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I can swing a dead cat and hit a thousand times as many folk who would like to see the charade continue, forever and a day. And this includes especially the folks who are yelling the loudest for ‘Disclosure’.] ~ Dan


An appropriate response especially from you Dan and your CIA connection. But when things finally come home to roost where you change your mind about that, let's hope we won't end up seeing a photo of you on the back of milk cartons. Seriously.


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Post by Sweet Release on Sat May 05, 2018 9:26 am

dan wrote:ME,

Disenfranchised.......?  

Well, yes, we’ve been alienated from the truth, alienated from ourselves, and alienated from our Source.  

But I’m under the distinct impression that this was part of the bargain, from the beginning.  

We had the choice...... we could be angels or critters.  We made the obvious choice...... the right choice.  

I'm not sure there is any such 'bargain'.

Instead, only an accidental 'optical delusion' of consciousness that causes suffering.

Any number of contronyms could illustrate the point, but perhaps 'screen' is the most direct.

Meaning both 'to conceal' and 'to show'.

On both inner and outer levels, 'conceal' is the preferred meaning of choice.

Yet a subtle but profound shift of emphasis on both levels is all it will take to end suffering.

And only a handful of people control the concealment in the outer reality.
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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 9:30 am

ME,

Ok, who’s in control of Disclosure.....?  

For the sake of argument, let’s suppose that it is you and me.......

Before mandating Disclosure, would you wish to have just a general idea of what was to be disclosed, just a little bit of curiosity?  

The first thing we might wish to know.......

Is life an absurdity in a meaningless universe or not?  

Is there any more important question?  

Or how about this one........ why is there something rather than nothing?  

Who are you gonna ask?  Will the alien astronauts have a better access to that truth than you or me?  

Will the PtB or the CIA have better handle on those questions than you or me, ME?

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Post by Z on Sat May 05, 2018 9:41 am

Dan
On your BIGFOOT/MONSTER ... i stand corrected... I DO believe in that one ...... and I'm so thankful SHE believed in me....I am forever indebted for the grace of THAT bigfoot!!!
It made a big difference at a pivotal point in my life....

And yea... youre DAMN lucky to eat at a French restaurant or anywhere with bigfoot LOL

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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 9:50 am

AP,

Thank you for the correction.  

I’m jealous of my Princess.  I’m not sure that Foot and I are prepared to share her with the rest of the world.  Gotomeeting.......?  Maybe.


It was back in ‘59, Sputnik had just been launched.......

The handwriting was on the heavens. I guess I was going to be a physicist astronaut....... wasn’t that where to head to learn the truth of transcendental pantheism?



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Post by Sweet Release on Sat May 05, 2018 9:54 am

dan wrote:ME,

Ok, who’s in control of Disclosure.....?  

For the sake of argument, let’s suppose that it is you and me.......

Before mandating Disclosure, would you wish to have just a general idea of what was to be disclosed, just a little bit of curiosity?  

The first thing we might wish to know.......

Is life an absurdity in a meaningless universe or not?  

Is there any more important question?  

Geez Dan, you really like kick the can! Razz Wink

dan wrote:Or how about this one........ why is there something rather than nothing?  

So in love with you right now for posing this question to me! It's my favorite! Razz

There are no 'things'.

When you analyze any 'thing' it dissolves into a complex series of interrelations with all other 'things'. It's the 'coastline paradox'. Every 'thing' is indivisible from the unbroken, unified whole, 'the circle with no circumference whose center is everywhere' as you stated in one video.

'Things' are just mental designations. There aren't really separate, individual 'things'.

Therefore, is not the question: how does some 'thing' come from no 'thing' utterly nonsensical, when you really examine it?

There never were, nor can ever be, any 'things'.

dan wrote:Who are you gonna ask?  Will the alien astronauts have a better access to that truth than you or me?  

Will the PtB or the CIA have better handle on those questions than you or me, ME?  

(cont.......)

Well, I think you and me have just figured it out.
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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 10:03 am

Ok, ME, so there you have all the Disclosure we could possibly need.  

The rest of the story is like rolling off a log(os).

Yes, smelly has been trying to explain this to us for years, with pictures and poems.  

I’m just a little more or a wordsmith...... but smelly is a quick study.

We’ll never have the smoking gun...... that life is not an accident..... that the Force is with us........

In the best possible world...... in the best possible Disclosure..... there will always be room for the mustard seed of faith. Even on the other side of the Portal, even on the other side of the grave.


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Post by Sweet Release on Sat May 05, 2018 10:07 am

dan wrote:The rest of the story is like rolling off a log.

...or going on endless adventures shining a torch into the darkness.
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Post by Foot Mann on Sat May 05, 2018 10:15 am

What did she do on that day in the House that caused me to shrink down to a mouse? For 35 years I awaited my role that I knew in that moment there would be a toll. To share with the Discloser a bit of that pie, still brings a tear to my eye. As GoGo to the New he will carry through.
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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 10:17 am

Endless .......?

There is no time beyond time.  There is no end beyond the End.

It is a small world.  The only infinity is to be lost in love.  You’ll have to ask smelly.


Foot,

Either your account has been hacked by Cozy Bear, or you’ve hit the bottle.

Best to leave the bottle work to us, professionals.



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dan wrote:Endless .......?

There is no time beyond time.  There is no end beyond the End.

It is a small world.  The only infinity is to be lost in love.

I might need to better understand your BPW hypothesis to answer that interestingly.

P.S. Does Foot Mann ever take off his beret, step down from the podium and mingle with the audience?
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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 10:32 am

Don’t mind the Foot...... he lost his script there, for a moment.

Not to worry, Princess will get him back on track.

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Post by Sweet Release on Sat May 05, 2018 10:48 am

Dan and/or Foot,

What is the best way to get a handle on the story of Princess and the pod?

Dan, I've seen your 2017 interview with Grant Cameron in which you give some tentative details on it, but am wondering if there is a more definitive and detailed summary than that.

Hope y'all can appreciate how interested anyone who has seen that is for it to be elaborated on in much greater depth.
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Post by dan on Sat May 05, 2018 10:59 am

ME,

I hate to disappoint you, but obviously, we have no witnesses.  We take it all with a grain of salt and/or two grains of alcohol.  Which would you prefer?

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