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Post by Cyrellys on Mon May 04, 2015 12:29 am

dan wrote:Cy,

I'm not in favor of guns, but I understand that some folks need that extra sense of security.  

Yesterday we were at the national Cathedral doing the flower market for Kashmir-Rose.  Today we are headed to a WCUAVC flight day at a school down here.  


Was looking at the connection between India and Greece back in the day.  In fact there was a Greco-Indian empire, created by Alexander the Great.  The mutual influence



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Well guns have their place, but that wasn't the point...the point was that Hillary equates gun possession with violent individuals or groups and I think I quite clearly illustrated the problem with that kind of thinking by saying I've never been responsible for hurting someone.

I'm not a violent person and my record attests to that. Hillary however is responsible for the deaths of two exemplary military members and one Ambassador, all by design. She also responsible for the arrests and loss of career of one General and one Admiral who attempted to send in a rescue party. They would have been successful in the rescue and then the creation of ISIS and the gun running that contributed to it would have been exposed. Nothing like wiping the proof of criminal wrong doing off the map to protect your own arse Hildebeast? Like any of us would forget and forgive her? Hillary apparently doesn't own guns and yet she's been responsible for the ending of at least three lives and two careers. She's five ahead of this gun owner. And that's just what we happen to know about. There's rumors her and her prior hubby were involved in the drug trade of Arkansas and S. America...then there's China and Walmart. I could go on but what's the point. Truth is too old fashioned and justice is also out-dated.

I'm a celt so truth and justice is not a cultural trait in the eyes of the modern umbrella society which refuses to acknowledge those traits as part of the nation's psyche, but rather as a personal neurosis that they'd probably insist a straightjacket and heavy medication be applied to if I were within reach in DC. Truth and justice equals neurosis? What kind of thinking is that?!! But that's the spew emerging from orgs like DHS since its inception. So when it comes to commentary, turn-about-is-fair-play. They and their flunkies make snide comments about us and we return the favor.

>>>on India and Greece...look at the Sanskrit language and old greek. Then compare it to Old Irish. Fascinating? Now look at some of the ideas each culture valued...same again. All three have same root system. Ah but why would anyone care about the legacy of the elder gods? 'er ET and the seeding of civilizations? Virmana are inconveniences...ah! and there once was one in the vicinity of Fermoy Eire of all places! That is if you can take the Christian overlay off the history.

>>> on the subject of the Glyphs:

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Post by dan on Mon May 04, 2015 8:55 am

Cy,

I understand that you like to point to potential problems, and this is what Ron does, also.  I point to the solution, which is the 'apocalyptic' MoAPS/BPWH/SWH/CTC/(4M/K/SoT/X2).  This eventuality could easily be arranged within the next 15 months, so as to prevent the 'cataclysm'.  Obviously, problem and solution are complementary items.  

Now, within a few days, I will be departing on a weeklong excursion with R/A/K.  This is a last minute commitment on my part, based largely on a conversation that transpired yesterday, on our return from the KWF/WCUAVC event at Foxcroft.  To wit.......

It started with my incredulity wrt who is in charge of the eschaton.... answ: no one.  Who is in charge of tracking it......?  answ: no one.  Who besides Ron is tracking it....... maybe one or two people..... very vague about this.

What is going on, here.......?  

The various segments of the national and global IC track various vectors related to various contingencies.  Each segment has its own concerns and interests.  There is no formal oversight, other than (logically?) the NSC/DNI.  Ron seemed almost to scoff at this suggestion.  I did not pursue it, but clearly will have to.  One might hope that he is merely providing a bit cover, thereto.  

Of those who might be concerned with the larger picture, there are two groups, those who don't care (denial?), and those who see no hope.  

What happened three months ago?  The vectors associated with the various databases and computer models, models related to specific contingencies, displayed an unusual alignment.  Allegedly this alignment has persisted, and is not expected to just go away.  

I asked if any of these vectors were associated with phenomenology.  No answer.  And what about MJ12?  Almost a scoff.  Their responsibilities have become narrowly defined.  In what manner?  NA.  


12:40---------

The Princess seems more open to a corresponding realignment of KWF, in the direction of the BPWH.  It could be crucial that she accompany me on some outings to various institutions and agencies to establish a preliminary contact, along with some references on the KWF site.  She might hire a staff person to facilitate this.  


So, yes, we will, as usual, be open to questions, comments and suggestions.  

Even if we had superpowers, how would we be handling this differently?  Teleology is our only needed superpower, and, given its existence, all we need to do is join in  the cosmic conspiracy.  Yes?  

Are we not already participating in the co-Creation?  Its just that we do not have a consensual picture, to this effect.  We have a few more months to get a foot in the door of that developing consensus.  


What we are missing here is any obvious path to Disclosure and/or a MoAPS trigger.  We used to speak of a no-comment being issued from the WHPB room.  Is that option still in play?  It would require a concerted effort, particularly from the UFO community.  But none such seems in the offing.  Again, it is a question of a predefined narrow focus.  


1:50--------

Back to philosophy........

I'm feeling comfortable with the crucial overlap btw eastern and western philosophy, particularly wrt idealism/immaterialism.  Panentheism comprises an excellent common ground.  

The tricky point is the small world hypothesis (SWH)......

The SWH comes mainly out of the prophetic tradition, although the CTC component of the SWH evinces much influence from the east.  

A very useful east-west link is to be found in the Islamic notion of occasionalism, which shows up particularly with western skeptics, such as Hume.

NB: it has been duly noted that occasionalism has much in common with the Copenhagen version of QM.  Keep this in mind while perusing the weak measurement hypothesis (WMH).  To the WMH, it is natural to append the BPW/cycles/(AZO/X/QRP), qv.  

IMHO, Liebniz' pre-established harmony (PEH) is the 'optimal' formulation of occasionalism. The PEH is the Logos and the Aether, etc. Everything else is a tale told by an idiot. GWL is a rationalist. Al-Ghazali is an irrationalist. I would join in the incoherence of his incoherence. His IotP marked the end of the Islamic rennaissance. Muhammed may then be seen as the epitome of divine incoherence, setting the stage for our spiritual armageddon...... drama Queen, bless her heart.




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Dan wrote:Cy,

I understand that you like to point to potential problems, and this is what Ron does, also. I point to the solution, which is the 'apocalyptic' MoAPS/BPWH/SWH/CTC/(4M/K/SoT/X2). This eventuality could easily be arranged within the next 15 months, so as to prevent the 'cataclysm'. Obviously, problem and solution are complementary items.

Now, within a few days, I will be departing on a weeklong excursion with R/A/K. This is a last minute commitment on my part, based largely on a conversation that transpired yesterday, on our return from the KWF/WCUAVC event at Foxcroft. To wit.......

It started with my incredulity wrt who is in charge of the eschaton.... answ: no one. Who is in charge of tracking it......? answ: no one. Who besides Ron is tracking it....... maybe one or two people..... very vague about this.

What is going on, here.......?

The various segments of the national and global IC track various vectors related to various contingencies. Each segment has its own concerns and interests. There is no formal oversight, other than (logically?) the NSC/DNI. Ron seemed almost to scoff at this suggestion. I did not pursue it, but clearly will have to. One might hope that he is merely providing a bit cover, thereto.

Of those who might be concerned with the larger picture, there are two groups, those who don't care (denial?), and those who see no hope.

What happened three months ago? The vectors associated with the various databases and computer models, models related to specific contingencies, displayed an unusual alignment. Allegedly this alignment has persisted, and is not expected to just go away.

I asked if any of these vectors were associated with phenomenology. No answer. And what about MJ12? Almost a scoff. Their responsibilities have become narrowly defined. In what manner? NA.




Hey Dan:

FAS wrote:* "The classified annex of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014 required the DNI create a governance and oversight model to provide the DNI and the Congress with the insight required to ensure IC ITE [the IC Information Technology Enterprise] meets milestones for performance, cost, and schedule. The classified annex of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2015 required the CIA, DIA, NRO, NGA, and NSA to provide specific plans for adoption of IC ITE-compliant capabilities."


DNI and CIA have been historic competitors since Zurich OSS station chief Allen Dulles negotiated bringing on Reinhard Gehlen, "lock, stock, and Nazi" under the 1947 Nat Sec Act, compromising the CIA "civilian character" Remember the practice of corporate liasons Skorzeny, Voss, Remer, Schacht, et al.

Extra but key reference: Martin A Lee, The Beast Reawakens. p. xxviii.

Post WWII it was a DNI WH that working against a part of the depopulation agenda advocacy embedded in the new environmental movement.

Does that mean DNI is still free of NWO conscription? Hard to say. It's been several career 'generations' and the core group of oath keepers who traced their roots back to the likes of Paul Jones and other naval admirals and privateer captains, may not have survived the relatively recent social engineering. In 1975 I can unequivocally say they were still extant. Beyond that? Well there was at least one protege in 1975, but none of us have seen them since to my knowledge unless the 2008 UN event had something to do with them.

The same can be said in modern times about any group...who remains conscripted? What has the change of time and the work of the alternative media wrought?

Texas Rangers weighed in a couple days ago...they claim to be bound by their oaths and the higher ground.

Some of the Spec Forces have weighed in...claiming the same. Many of the Sheriffs and other LEOs are alert to what's going on.

Elements of all the mil branches have been heard from EXCEPT Air Force. Did JCOS not clean the house well enough after Minot AFB Aug 2007 events?

We've even heard from a group of OTHERS claiming to be on standby for the event as a possible rescue first responder group available to those who can live side by side without being hostile primitives. They have more ships than in the time of Noah. And the offer was not to include the Elites or other dumb inhabitants...apparently the technology for building the dumbs was supposed to be for everyone? But just the elite buddies got the invite. Maybe you or Ron should corner the MJ12 on that little tidbit. Survivors 10,000 years past this half-crazed situation will still be likely to drop-kick the descendents of those hauling-turkey into the dumbs, over sheer principle. Not that dumbs are all that safe when a planet's crust goes bug-nuts spinning like a top, fracturing, and looking more like a jumble of peanut brittle before all is said and done.

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Post by dan on Tue May 05, 2015 7:33 am

Cy,

I'm glad that you continue to keep tabs on things.......


I'm having a hard time believing that our ship is quite so rudderless, as Ron wishes to make out.  Finally, we have the NSC, DNI and MJ12, each, according to Ron, having abdicated, in its own way.  And/or he is providing cover for one or more of them.  We also may have the ONI as a quasi-independent actor.  That gives us four possible actors.  

He does point to the problem and necessity of compartmenting the information.  He suggests that it is mainly a spontaneous process, however.  

If anyone is left in charge, it would be a handful of independent actors like Ron, no one of whom may have sufficient information to precipitate a preemptive Disclosure.  How might they get it together, and under what auspices?  Will it be event driven, finally, or will someone rise to the leadership challenge?  


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I have only mentioned US agencies.  There are other actors, and I would mention Britain, Russia, China and the Vatican.  I don't suppose that any one of these is willing or able to act preemptively.  I've not heard it even suggested that any of these are impatient to challenge the historical lead of the US, in this regard.  

The 800# gorilla is, of course, cosmic intelligence/VALIS.  Presumably there is coordination.  The best (personal) evidence I have of that would be my 9/11 (pre-)involvement (r&d).  Besides that, there is the logic, particularly wrt the ETH v UTH issue.  Given the overwhelming paranormal aspects of the visitation phenomenon, some sort of VALIS must be involved, necessarily.  We may still be waiting upon some pre-defined cosmic signal.  

Should there be expectations wrt the excursion?  I do have some.  Where is the line to be drawn, and who draws it?  Has it already been delegated?  In the end, is it just mano-a-mano, w/ AP as the iterlocutor/amanuensis/sophia?


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The potus is not involved, not been consulted or briefed?  That is possible.  It is the long established protocol that potus's have better things to do.  This will not be a problem until the s hits the f.  By then, it wont make much difference anyway.  Will the pres have to call out the guard?  Possibly not.  

The Princess did say, as I recall, that she might have some idea of the vectors being referenced.  

I'll bet that ISIS and China are two big ones.  Something like the CAm drug gangs, referenced a couple of months ago.  Anyone for Haretz?  And don't neglect the data from the phenom/net.  NSA can provide much data from trolling the inet. There would be a whole bunch of economic and political data. But, despite all the available data, the time specificity is not computing, not in my book..... outside Source, it would have to be. Yes?





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Post by Cyrellys on Tue May 05, 2015 1:03 pm

The ship isn't entirely rudderless. And it makes a difference WHICH SHIP you're talking about. "NSC, DNI and MJ12" not to mention ONI all belong the System Ship. That's not the same as the ships of the general population.

The mosaic of leadership in the liberty movement has taken action in some respects thanks to the research community which has more in common with them than the System Ship. The System Ship is continually more and more isolated. I've routinely raised concerns about System Inhabitants being "left behind". Traditionally we don't leave good men behind but there is a high degree of dispute now as to the definition of a 'good man' from external examination of the System and its transgressions. And if the howler monkey's get their way anything that stinks of the system is designated for abandonment. Not a good deal for active duty personnel who've spent their time doing what they thought was right and really are not monsters...not all the system is so clean. I've advocated differentiation. We don't leave good men behind.

So will Ron if he's taking the leadership role in the System, will he also take on the responsibility of those system inhabiting 'good men'? Or will the liberty community continue to attempt triage and find places for them among our own, in whatever way we can achieve identifying them? What exactly is his definition of 'good'? Could it be suspect if he's a advocate of drone use on humans? (for example). Some would say these are legit questions.

And in what ways will the narratives of the various ships differ? What will the consequences of those differences be?

Dan wrote:There are other actors, and I would mention Britain, Russia, China and the Vatican.

Yes I would agree on that list. Russia has been leading, those who have eyes and ears to hear it in the right venues have noticed. The Vatican has been chiming in on some of it, but not the whole tale. China, I haven't noticed anything. Britain...is tighter than a gal with diarrhea on an airplane confined to her seat because its in the process of landing!

And you missed two...India & Brazil. India has been excellent in making their ancient manuscripts available for comparison. They don't seem to be terribly forthcoming overtly but they haven't blocked the ancient narrative on the matter. Brazil has been excellent on the matter of Contact. Their military has been reasonably forthcoming in a number of ways.

However none seem to have been as thorough as researchers in the US Alt Community. But the message is not a reoccurring theme in a coherent sense. Its more like a running dialog, fluid, continually evolving this way and that way. It's the craziest winding of a May pole I've ever seen but it's been more effective than anything the System inhabitants have done so far. IMO.

If you need a glimpse of your VALIS/cosmic intelligence...start a little closer to home...the ties of the collective consciousness of life forms of Earth (Tamia?) in the world's electromagnetic shield...that energy matrix. If you'd reviewed the links I gave for the GLYPHS you wouldn't need to ask that.

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Post by dan on Wed May 06, 2015 8:44 am

Cy,

It does appear that the vectors just keep on vectoring.......

Maybe I'll learn a few more vectors while I'm mostly out of the loop for the next week or so. The name of Charlie Hall, acquaintance of Sam's, came up in this regard. He is a computer modeller for sustainability, or non-sustainability, as the case may be. He was introduced to CK a couple of years ago. We heard nothing more until last weekend.

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dan wrote:Cy,

It does appear that the vectors just keep on vectoring.......

Maybe I'll learn a few more vectors while I'm mostly out of the loop for the next week or so.  The name of Charlie Hall, acquaintance of Sam's, came up in this regard.  He is a computer modeller for sustainability, or non-sustainability, as the case may be.  He was introduced to CK a couple of years ago.  We heard nothing more until last weekend.  

Catch you later........


In the face of the effects of the cyclic cataclysm and the possibility pole shift has already begun, with an unknown completion point, how does CH approach modeling on those subjects?  I don't see how it can be predicted what land will be intact and available in the aftermath, unless maybe he's working with non-terrestrial data? What data is he working with? What scope? What limitations?

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Cy,

I find it curious that you often emphasize the idea of eternal recurrence.  I'm not sure if this is deliberate or just reflexive, on your part.  

The BPWH is at pains to distinguish itself from both the eastern and western views on recurrence, somewhat in line with our adherence to panentheism, as a synthesis of east and west.  

Instead of the eternal return, we have the CTC/SWH, which emphasizes the notion of the singular BP Circuit, which is traversed billions of times by the one cosmic soul that is timeshared by each one of us.  We are like the individual pearls on Indra's necklace.  Each of us is, ultimately, the reincarnation of everyone else.  

What you see as Atlantis was not a cataclysm in our past, but rather the rapture in our future, some thousand years hence.  That is our Omega that transforms into our Alpha, Megalopolis >> Megalithic.  Our descendents become our ancestors, at that crucial juncture, at that 'spark-gap' in our Ouroboric CTC.  

This gap is also depicted as the eye in the pyramid of the great seal. the hovering eye represents both the mother ship(s) of our rapture and the Noah's ark(s) of our origin/return. There are ~12 each for each of the 12 centers on earth. 144 million exit, 144 thousand return. You do need to grasp this idea, if you wish to effectively critique the BPWH. No?



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My first attempt at this post got lost in the aether, so I'll have to be more succint, won't I.......?

But I've had several CLL's, in the meantime, so I have no clue.....

But, it's not good to leave me bored and neglected on an SBA, as some of us know.  

But, yes, once again we do confirm the SWH.  There are just five and a half of us who have a clue, and one of us is not four.  

Very stealthy.  But is it stealthy enough, now that 0.5 has a bamboo connection?  

I'm not totally...... no, yes, I'm not toally surprised at how SWH this operation is.  

I'm trying to remember what I was trying to say......


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As you see, I'm not following my usual endless page blog, because things get lost in the aether, when we are on an SBA.

I think Bill L has figured out who is who, but then he pretended to forget, just to force out more info, as is his wont.  We do need to check out his bamboo connex before we take this too much further.  

LLSS, as they say @ONI.......

Briefly I reestablished contact with the RF, but then ..... no, they just reappeared......



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One recent threat vector:

South Korea issues warning on North Korea ballistic missile capability ...

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Post by dan on Tue May 12, 2015 3:06 pm

Tues, May 12, '15 - 9:25am pdt

We're in Glacier Bay.  Temp in the fifties with high broken clouds.  Surrounded by snow covered mountains, down to about 1,000'.  

Precious little of substance to report, I regret to say.   Yes, hope does spring eternal, but so does practicality and human nature.  Come hell or high water, we maintain our protocols.  

What is Ron's agenda?  What is he involved in.....how many layers of the onion are there?  To what extent might he be independent, rogue or controlled, and wrt what or whom?  I'm no closer to knowing than I was 23 years ago.  We have to give him credit for opacity, if credit be due.  


10:30am ------

There had been intimations of substantive discussions in the context of the alleged  alignment of the crisis(?) vectors.  But, no, there has been none such.  

Instead there was a modest embellishment of the Gordon Novel story.  I called Bill to see if he could think of good reason why I shouldn't jump ship.  Granted, his name had come up, and I'd been asked to not talk to him, but based on subsequent interaction, I have to conclude that, most likely, there was a deliberate entrapment.  The entire SBA was an entrapment.  But right now I'm enjoying the marvelous view of the Johns Hopkins glacier.  There are compensations.  We're still talking, but no business.

So what was this about?  Got me.  

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May 12, 2015 - 11:30am

So what was this about.......?

The one time that Aliyah was not present, we ended up shouting, and this was before the phone call.  

Had I waited 23 years and gone 2300 miles to hear another Gordon story?  Professional provocation?  Sure, but to what end?  Personal payback.... for what?  For being preternaturally patient?!

First question......... What about the time deadline?  I was skeptical from the start.  What computer model can deal with human non-linearities?  Who is predicting the stockmarket, more than a few nano-seconds in advance?  

I tried to get him to admit that there would have to be unconventional sources to account for the alleged specificity of the time frame, but he claimed I was not up on the science.


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Post by dan on Thu May 14, 2015 10:33 am

Gary,

Thanks for these links, but, no, these are not a prime source for Ron's vectors.  They are mostly DIA operated, and are meant to analyze specific threats in specific regions.  Ron's alleged models are more broadly based, and include domestic data.  He is looking for a September surprise in '16, as the domestic politics becomes more polarized.  The domestic tension leads to a global power vacuum, and a further breakdown in the world order.  

Ron does not feel responsible to play Paul Revere or be the town crier.  He claims that folks will come to him as the situation deteriorates.  I questioned that considerable assumption..... everyone who might have a need to know, re 15 mo's, would already know about his informal network.  Would those same folks not know of the R&D show?  Now, Dan, don't get crazy.  

And what about Disclosure, in this time frame?  He is not discounting that.  He continues to ask about the SWH, like it was a novel idea.  

I question whether he has done due diligence wrt the now near future, and how I might verify the adequacy of his EWS.  He is not responsive.  

After the intial fiasco, back over the weekend, wrt Gordon and China, there has been a reluctance to discuss the alleged device or craft, and what role it might play in disclosure.  I remain openly skeptical, nonetheless.  



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cont.... from iPad - May 14......
1:22 pm

Could it be that we are also waiting for a positive sign wrt divine intervention?  

If and when the global situation deteriorates, what will we do then?  Who has a plan?  There is no plan?  Then what is point of the forecast model?

What about disclosure?  When will that kick in?   How many in the crisis network are briefed on Disclosure?  Anyone in the WH?

How does the Gordon Craft (GC) relate to disclosure?  

Yes, I'm skeptical of the GC.  It may be a cover, however, for a more metaphysical option.  

ETH v UTH

No plan to deal with financial panic?


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Post by dan on Fri May 15, 2015 10:17 am

Just when I thought that things couldn't get any worse, things went ahead and got worse, anyway.  Things do have a tendency to do that, even in the best possible world, in case you hadn't already noticed.  


We're coming into Victoria, on the way back to Seattle.  


So what's up with the royal family, we might wonder?  And do I have a need to know?!  I hope not, 'cause I don't.  

Fool me once, you're to blame, fool me twice, I'm to blame.  Fool me a million times and God's to blame, if there is a God.  

Both R&A are claiming almost total ignorance of the BPWH.  So they brought me 23 years and 2,300 miles to tell me this?  Hmmm......

What about those alleged vectors?  What credence are we to lend to them?  I'm not inclined to discount them entirely.  Even the best disinformation must contain a glimmer of truth.  And I do believe that God may be a drama queen.  

But how high does the blood in the streets have to rise before we can discount God and/or the BPWH? I do carry a yard stick with me, but more than that and I may give up trying to swim.

But where there's life there's hope........ maybe it was just a local nightmare.



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Post by Cyrellys on Fri May 15, 2015 11:16 am

My condolences to you Dan on the difficulty of your trip. At least the scenery was worth while? And they are your friends, that always counts for something.

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Hey Everyone,

I will be on Susan Lindauer's radio show the Covert Report this Saturday 11am to 1pm EASTERN-- that's 9am to 11am Mountain time. We will be discussing this material (below) as well as Yellowstone & the super volcanoes; and the Patriot Act renewal on May 31st, Jade Helm 15 & Operationalize CONUS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S... --- Susan's bio
https://extremeprejudiceusa.wo/.. --- her blog
http://truthfrequencyradio.com/.. --- her radio show

Susan contacted me about going on the show when I sent a copy of the scenario for review to the Manticore Group and interested observers on our BCC list.

This will place greater scrutiny upon anyone involved in doing something like this to Yellowstone and the New Madrid. It will also assist to raise awareness with the issue of our military practicing to wage war on the American People in Jade Helm 15. We will be focusing on the situational landscape.

From Email Excerpt @ Cyrellys wrt Whistleblower Scenario wrote:The following quote is the most recent product out of a 2 month long email dialog that was encouraged to go public. The liberty community generally has a situational landscape map of current and prior activities and documents, but what it does not have is what is enclosed in the quote below.

Scenario Needs to be Checked and Prevented if evidence found --

QUOTE:

(snip) should listen and read what I say to you right now. Get a map of where the Jade Helm exercise is, meaning where the troops are. Now, overlay another map of the USA on top of it. What do you see? I know my father and his friends told you the evil psycho PTB were buying Helium6 at 2 million liquid metric tons each purchase.

Now, there are waterways which go from Monterrey Bay all the way under the United States on the West Coast and they can come out on the Mississippi River and the Missouri River and continue on to Canada or go to the East Coast. This in itself should not be a surprise. (See John Leer's video on this). What is important is we have been giving not so subtle hints your PTB are pumping this helium deep underground under the Yellowstone Caldera and this is why you are now seeing Helium seeping up through the ground. Coincidence-I think no.

They have also been purchasing methane in the same fashion and holding it stable deep under Yellowstone, along with the New Madrid Fault line by mixing it with a blend of COREXIT and this is why you are seeing the many sink holes in Bayou Parrish and others in Louisiana. So, now you know what really did happen in the BP oil spill and why all the fish die everywhere. It was an explosion by BP because of a mistake with the pumping of methane in to the underground all the way up almost to the Great Lakes . They are using horizontal drilling which they can drill sideways as far as they want from there and then drill in the middle of the USA and then turn North and continue.

The problem is this. 1. They wanted to avoid detonating Yellowstone and the New Madrid Fault line because it would cause many deaths and yes, this is why we said 40 million (snip) would die if you do not stop them. They tried to start WW III in Syria first, but Mr. Putin did come to us for help and protection against these crazy (snip) Nazi's who are simply holdover Nazi's (snip) from WW II and their descendants. (snip) Mr. Putin and Russia if he did use his (snip) power and the power of Russia to stop WW III which he did. Now, The (snip) have decided to go back to causing a volcano at Yellowstone and a massive 9.0+ earthquake at the New Madrid Fault which will cause a new 200 mile wide water way from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico.

There are no asteroids at all. This is simply a (snip) trick on your minds so they can blame this on a naturally occurring event. You must remember, the technology they have is fifty years ahead of what you see on the retail market. Also on their table is the third possibility to eradicate the USA as it is the USA People who will stop the wrong New World Order Leaders from coming in. You do need a New World Order. It is who runs it (snip). The people and animals you share the planet with must come first, not profit and control. The other plan they have is if they do detonate Yellowstone in September through the end of 2015 or in 2016 as timetables move, all people will try to leave via the EAST Coast and they will block you by blowing the Mid Atlantic Ridge Fault Line causing a massive tsunami to make all people on the east coast drown.

Now, do you understand why we do get so frustrated with you people? At the beginning of this I asked you to get two maps. The first would show the Military exercises and the second would show Yellowstone. Actually it is better to use the map of Yellowstone and the New Madrid Fault on the bottom, now overlay where all the troops are gathering. What do you see? Correct! The troops are out of the way of down range from the very toxic volcanic ash to humans which does become liquid cement in your lungs.

Now you know why you have the Fema coffins placed where they are. If they are not stopped then the "Future Navy Map" of the USA will become real and not just a working hypothesis of (snip) lunatic behavior. Sorry for my very fast typing. I do not have the time to be writing now but you claim to be part of some group which will stop the evil PTB so we wanted to let you know their plans for you.

(snip)

You now have the knowledge of what you are up against. This is why no troops are to the East of Yellowstone. This is also why those planes were collecting wind data. They really wanted to know where the ash would go in finite detail.

END QUOTE from Dialog 05-13-2015

It's self-explanatory that this scenario needs to be checked out.



It should interest you to note Dan, that the above communicator gave the same time frame as our Footman through you did.

The same communicator is also hitting a great many other 'vector' details that are not all common knowledge.

The communicator is a group not an individual. The dialog differs from member to member of its group.

The above quote is a 'digestible' excerpt of the original. Because the content is more of concern than the identities of the speakers. Posted here for you and your friends review.

My two cents: If such a scenario comes to pass, there won't be a DUMB deep enough on this planet in the next 12,000 years to protect their mangy posteriors from the wrath of the survivors descendants.

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Cyrellys Geibhendach, this morning on The Covert Report with Susan Lindauer host discussing Yellowstone helium 6 scenario, Jade Helm 15, and Operationalize CONUS. http://truthfrequencyradio.com/the-covert-report-w-susan-lindauer-51960/




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Post by dan on Sun May 17, 2015 7:12 am

Cy,

I thank you for keeping the homefires burning, while some of us were frolicking in Seward's Folly.  And, yes, Ron continues to be a big fan of yours, which does raise certain suspicions in my little mind.  

Yes, my patience has been sorely tested, these last several days.  Is there a way forward?  That has never been more murky, which may be saying something.  

What does keep me going is the understanding that, in the end, truth is personal, or it is nothing.  This is something that far too many, in the age of science, have lost sight of.  Truth itself can be maligned, but blaspheming the spirit of truth will, in the End, not stand.  

Things started out with a bang, with my being labled a Chicom fellow traveller, all because, when confronted with Gordon Novel's RAM redivivus, I resorted to making a phone call to Bill LaParl on the advisability of jumping ship.  

Yes, BL is in the pay of a notorious Chinese finacier who has designs on the Mainland....... more power to him or her.  What do I tell Bill that I don't already blog?  Well, you provide Bill with personal insights that might not come across on the blog.  Hmmm........ So some Chicoms will pay big bucks for personal annecdotes relative to the R&D show!  Wow.  Maybe they're not as stupid as they look.  

Back to RAM, replicated alien mechanism.  After decades of declaring Gordon's insanity, I am told that he was sitting on a goldmine, all along.  Don't we know it.  And, Ron, our national hero, is, with the help of a New Mexican and a Frenchman, one named Toby, within three weeks of going operational with the real RAM.  And, somehow, this may mitigate the worst of the calamity that is still scheduled for September, 2016.

Co-conspirators are Buzzy and Cookie, the Krongard, Blackwater/CIA, brothers, local Gilman boys, and James Woolsey.  In this RAM intrigue, the brothers wear the black hat, and Jim wears the white hat.  

Also close to the RAM truth are the Pauls, Price and Murad.  The former has written three books on RAM, and his SCAIF 2012 talk was introduced by Murad.  

How am I to contend with this Heavy Metal??  Do I have to throw myself in front of the Alien Machine?  


Here's where we come back to the CyRon connection.......

There may be a smidgen of truth in all this madness........

Yes, most folks believe that people don't count.  We are the pawns of forces far beyond our ken.  In fact 99.9% believe this, the rest of us are gnostics, of one sort or another.  Gnostics believe in a personal connection with the truth, although that truth is otherwise, unreachable.  It is blocked by the Katechon/Demiurge, so we are left, physically, to rot on our prison planet.  

There is some truth.  

What of RAM and Yellowstone?  Where's the truth?  

The truth is on the back of the dollar bill, the obverse of the Great Seal.  There you see the RAM and the Pyramid.  But I say, you need a critter to fly the Craft.  Ron thinks he can do it with (strong) AI.  Good luck, my son.  

Yes, Cy, we all know that Old Faithful is a hoax.  I have visited the underground steam generator, a clanky old machine.  I already know that.  Tell me something I don't know.  

Yes, the Mothership and the great Reset will hit us at the Omega, <~1,000 years.  And, yes, it is all part of the cosmic VALIS conspiracy.  You and Ron got it right, it's just the timing that is a bit off.  The timing must take human history into account.  It must give credence to the 'natural-circuit' of caterpilar, chrysalis and butterfly.  That's all.  Very close to the Truth, and the spirit thereof.  


3:10--------

You are suggesting that natural seeming catastrophes can and have been engineered.  Ron is suggesting that paranormal phenomena can and have been engineered.  I suggest that reality can be and has been engineered.  

It then depends on what we mean by 'engineered'.  You and Ron speak of engineering in the conventional sense, such as the engineering of a dam or a rocketship.  When I speak of engineering, I'm thinking more of 'imagineering', yes, a horrible, disneyfied neologism, but I can't think of a better word, besides simply a 'mental construct'.  

It can be argued, and I do, that this is the best possible unenlightened world.  With Disclosure, we begin the process of enlightenment, which is the spiritual apocalypse or revelation, which is described in the Book of Revelation in the metaphorical terms of a physical Armageddon, wherein the blood in the streets flows as high as a horse's bridle.  

With Disclosure, we will learn about the process of imagineering the world, and this will include the Reset Flood of Noah fame, whose Ark is depicted on the Great Seal.  


5:15--------

It is both the Alpha and the Omega that are being depicted on the obverse of the Great Seal, depending on whether the Ark/Eye is seen as leaving or returning.  

The Eye also represents the cosmic mind, which is our Source and to which we return, or, more accurately, become one with.  

The cosmic mind exists beyond space and time, which are its projection.  The general theory of relativity (GTR) provides a model for a universe that is finite, and in which time and space may be self-contained.  GTR also provides a model for a closed-timelike-curve (CTC), which is what we are.  There is also a projective geometric model that may be dubbed the hollow-earth model.  With the CTC model in mind, we are the toroidal version of the hollow-earth.  Got that?  

The great Cataclysm, existing in both our past and future, is the spark-gap in our CTC.  It is an essential component of our Creation.  

It is our cosmic reset-button.  But, more accurately, our cosmic consciousness/coordinate patch.  It's like a cosmic blind-spot, that is semi-automatically filled in, with, maybe, a jurrasic park or two..... whatever meets your fancy.  All of nature is such, but, in the reset-gap, nature is temporarily unbounded by human consciousness.... nature goes wild.... while we, all 144 million/thousand of us, commune with God.  We being, also, God's own braincells.  

The Gap is where the great cataclysms may also be located.  They leave less of a trace, a geologic trace, outside of history, like the dinosaurs.  It's all about nature's Patch.  Our background get's filled in, in a semi-minimalist fashion.  

There is a place for almost every facet of our imaginations, but wherein evil is never unbounded.  God can easily see to that, while also respecting our ego-bound unenlightened state.  When we've had our fill of ego binding, we will move from the cocoon to the butterfly stage, and not a day sooner.  


6:15---------

Let's suppose we've been granted our wish of meeting with whomever, be it pope, president or woolsey.  Ron is working on that.   I have the outline of Paul Price's RAM/ARV craft.  As Ron points out, it is neither physical nor metaphysical.  What about his version of the RAM?  It will be both, but it's not yet working.  

Who has access to the Vault?  Has it already been recycled/shredded?  Who can remember the pertinent names, dates and places?  Which Cat has their tongue?  

So who should the Princess and I meet with?  I had suggested the director of the philosophy of science section at the NSF, but Ron pooh-poohed it.  NAS, NRC, OSTP, Jasons......?  I can see why no real bureaucrat is going to volunteer to set her own pants on fire. That's why we're stuck with Ron, the un-bureaucrat..... the blood up to the bridles bureaucrat.

Does anyone, besides possibly Ron, have access to both the Vault and the Vectors?  Ron, of course, denies nothing wrt to his powers of access.  



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Post by Cyrellys on Sun May 17, 2015 6:39 pm

Yes paranormal, natural, and even to an extent our reality can be engineered in my opinion. But for the majority of humanity that is a skill at this time, which can barely be scratched. Those who can, are carrying a great responsibility. When I hear of something like the scenario involving Yellowstone I am hearing of an abject abuse of that responsibility. Engineering of the universe or aspects of it can take many forms.

Dan I know where you're going with this, but if you have this much difficulty articulating it, how do expect any attempted disclosure is going to express this to the people in terms they can grasp and utilize?

I am curious about Gordon's contraption...what exactly does it do? And how does that relate to Yellowstone?

Yes "the cosmic mind exists beyond space and time"...I've said often enough that mind is not limited by time, space, and place. But the models are wrong. The limitations are wrong. And the way you are dealing with the cyclic cataclysm is incorrect. But those are your prerogatives to consider and theorize. And I'm not saying this for any other purpose than constructive criticism. Coming to terms with a notion that maybe incorrect is still VERY useful and necessary knowledge.

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Cy,

Yes, it was 23 years and 2300 miles to be told that both R&A find the BPWH implausible.  I believe that the princess is sincere in her expression of that incredulity, I'm rather less sure wrt the footmann's alleged incredulity.  

Sincere or not, the incredulity puts constraints on our next move, toward a meeting.  The meeting must focus of the possibility of disclosure, and the orchestration of such, in the light of the 9/16 deadline.  

Re: disclosure....... Ron does admit that the ETH is implausible, lending credence to the notion that the alleged RAM/ARV craft is a metaphysical construct, if it is 'constructible' at all.  

Given Visitation, we then have the UTH.  It has long been my contention that the UTH lends much credence to the BPWH/SWH.  I doubt that R and/or A have even considered this logical connection.  I did not broach it, on the SBA.  


11am---------

If there is to be forward motion, in light of the 9/16 vectoring......

Let us now refer to refer to this as the vector/disclosure complex (VDC).  

1.)  Ron will have to specify more about the VDC parameters, of which he has direct knowledge.  This would be necessary just to have an actionable agenda wrt to any meeting.  The purpose of the meeting would be to present and/or negotiate a VDC strategy.  

2.)  Confirm the presumption that there has been an anticipated VDC linkage, all along.  

3.)  The meeting will have to include one individual who has been delegated to oversee Disclosure.  I will be negotiating with that individual to be the primary conduit for communicating the framework of Disclosure and selecting its initial content.  


It may well be that Ron is the designated driver for disclosure, and he may wish to not have that divulged.  In which case he may simply authorize someone at the meeting to negotiate in his stead.  


What would be the immediate follow-up action.....?

The designated negotiator would have to be accessible to the public.  It could be a retired government official, such as Woolsey.  He could simply state that, for the record, he has no further comment, beyond acknowledging that such a meeting did transpire, and at which he was present.  


From that point on, yours truly, aka. chicken-little, woud be the designated driver, ufn. The USG would maintain a no-comment stance, ufn. Presumably, other meetings/negotiations would ensue.





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Ah but would your narrative be willing to work equitably with other narratives? There are other disclosure processes already in play. You and Ron would be late comers.

And what if I told you Dan that both ETH & UTH had elements of truth? And that you cannot allow one without the other?

It is like the shortness and finality element of your timeline. You are defining the distance between two tide pools on the edge of a vast ocean you have not even a 1000 lifetimes worth of time to accomplish a single traversal...meaning that it would take far far more lifetimes just to fly-by the locations of a single lineal trajectory into its length! Not saying that there are only a 1000 lifetimes left in any human reality! It is this assumption that is foremost destroying your perception of the universe and of the Source.

What if I suggested the explorers of the 1500s & 1600s were psychologically better positioned to begin a perusal of the universe than our vehement assumption indoctrinated society today? Disclosure would be better applied in advocating a release of all the ingrained narratives to which we cling in the face of the unknown and a freewheeling open exploration and interaction employed where the narratives are not wielded like defensive weapons and barriers to the fantastic.

There are none who have not made the mistakes of narrative attribution.

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