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Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Cyrellys on Mon May 04, 2015 12:29 am

First topic message reminder :

dan wrote:Cy,

I'm not in favor of guns, but I understand that some folks need that extra sense of security.  

Yesterday we were at the national Cathedral doing the flower market for Kashmir-Rose.  Today we are headed to a WCUAVC flight day at a school down here.  


Was looking at the connection between India and Greece back in the day.  In fact there was a Greco-Indian empire, created by Alexander the Great.  The mutual influence



(cont.)



Well guns have their place, but that wasn't the point...the point was that Hillary equates gun possession with violent individuals or groups and I think I quite clearly illustrated the problem with that kind of thinking by saying I've never been responsible for hurting someone.

I'm not a violent person and my record attests to that. Hillary however is responsible for the deaths of two exemplary military members and one Ambassador, all by design. She also responsible for the arrests and loss of career of one General and one Admiral who attempted to send in a rescue party. They would have been successful in the rescue and then the creation of ISIS and the gun running that contributed to it would have been exposed. Nothing like wiping the proof of criminal wrong doing off the map to protect your own arse Hildebeast? Like any of us would forget and forgive her? Hillary apparently doesn't own guns and yet she's been responsible for the ending of at least three lives and two careers. She's five ahead of this gun owner. And that's just what we happen to know about. There's rumors her and her prior hubby were involved in the drug trade of Arkansas and S. America...then there's China and Walmart. I could go on but what's the point. Truth is too old fashioned and justice is also out-dated.

I'm a celt so truth and justice is not a cultural trait in the eyes of the modern umbrella society which refuses to acknowledge those traits as part of the nation's psyche, but rather as a personal neurosis that they'd probably insist a straightjacket and heavy medication be applied to if I were within reach in DC. Truth and justice equals neurosis? What kind of thinking is that?!! But that's the spew emerging from orgs like DHS since its inception. So when it comes to commentary, turn-about-is-fair-play. They and their flunkies make snide comments about us and we return the favor.

>>>on India and Greece...look at the Sanskrit language and old greek. Then compare it to Old Irish. Fascinating? Now look at some of the ideas each culture valued...same again. All three have same root system. Ah but why would anyone care about the legacy of the elder gods? 'er ET and the seeding of civilizations? Virmana are inconveniences...ah! and there once was one in the vicinity of Fermoy Eire of all places! That is if you can take the Christian overlay off the history.

>>> on the subject of the Glyphs:

432 Mystery

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Post by dan on Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:43 am

From: Dan
Date: June 5, 2015 at 11:39:27 AM EDT
To: C Langan
Cc: Paul, Deborah, Colton, Robert, Larry and Cy

Subject: Re: Trusting......?

(cont.......2)


Allow me to introduce Cy...... She is the owner of the Open Minds Forum to which I have been posting (daily) for the last several years.  She is also a sheep rancher in Montana, not so far from where my departed sister used to live on her half-section in the mountains.  She and Louise belong(ed) to the Patriot movement, and she is of an Irish/celtic lineage.  

Here is her post from yesterday........

>>Well Dan, you seem to be making some headway.  

I greatly appreciate what Paul Z & CL had to say on the subject of Alpha C. The people with the will to go and the kind of pioneering spirit needed to make such a venture successful have already pulled out of the System in disgust. They've thrown in their lot with the American Liberty Community because it's philosophy of seeking to achieve self-sustainability, honest economics, real education based on truths rather than ptb sustaining lies is more appealing.
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Next I quote her response to an earlier question of mine on the forum......

>>Dan I've answered this question the last several times you asked it, and now you're asking me again?  [yes, Cy is patient with me!]

The Source (aka Universal Source) is the consciousness responsible for the creation of the universe within which you exist.

What has it done for me?  What have I done for it? I am a part of it, I am a partner of it, and I am a product of it.

Synchronicity is the perceivable hand of the Source operation within the perception range of humanity affecting our environment and circumstances.

Where is the Source within our hour of need?  All around us.  Each person is a part of it, a partner of it (when aware), and a product of it.  You can't return to it, because you're already part of it and it a part of you.  Yet you have independence and individuality, and natural rights in relation to it, the universe, and all other Beings.  It does not interfere in Free Will.  

Humanity however has on the part of some individuals and groups created a conundrum.  This conundrum if it fully manifests will adversely affect the rest of the universe over the long term.  Part of this conundrum is the threat of the destruction the human race here on Earth by members of its own people under the rubric of depopulation and under circumstances that ostensibly make it easy for abject evil to hide it among natural cataclysm and a manufactured collapse of civilization, and amid an undisclosed extraterrestrial contact.  This is no fault of ET.  Natural events are being used to facilitate acts of abject evil and control.  Some of these events like Contact are appropriate for this time and circumstance; even necessary.  Other events are unavoidable.
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Like I say, Chris, you and I seem to be the only Xtians in these parts, so we'd better behave ourselves.......


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Post by skaizlimit on Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:07 pm

Dan, the illustrious ever inquiring one, suffered a stroke this past Saturday. He is recovering in hospital at this time, and expects to be back on line soon.
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skaizlimit wrote:Dan, the illustrious ever inquiring one, suffered a stroke this past Saturday.  He is recovering in hospital at this time, and expects to be back on line soon.


Thank you Skaiz. I hope he is feeling better soon.

Dan, take care and rest up. We're thinking well of you. Cy


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Post by dan on Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:40 am

I'm back, sort of.........
From: Dan
Date: June 10, 2015 at 3:05:29 AM EDT
To: Paul
Subject: Hollow Earth

Paul,

What I had not quite realized was that the hollow earth theory is the same as what Deborah was calling 'extreme idealism', today or rather yesterday

Dan


7:05am----------

Next thing you know, I'll be featuring the Hawking look, but please don't tell Steve I said that.


8:25----------

From: Dan
Date: June 10, 2015 at 7:40:17 AM EDT
To: Deborah Nash
Cc: Paul Z, Colton F
Subject: Re: Hollow Earth

[I mean] Who has not?


On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Dan > wrote:

Deborah,

Have you ever heard of this theory?



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Post by skaizlimit on Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:30 am

Whoa dude, Dan is back!!! Must be all those prayers. Can't keep a good man down.
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Post by Cyrellys on Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:36 pm

WB Dan!  Cy


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I'm currently reading "The Three Rights" by Edwin Vieira Jr.

"In Three Rights, Dr. Edwin Vieira Jr. elucidates the three indispensible rights of popular sovereignty, popular self-government, and popular resistance to usurpation and tyranny that lie at the heart of the Declaration of Independence, the original Constitution of the United States, and the Bill of Rights.  Three Rights proves that these documents are not somehow separate and independent, but instead are integral components of a single coherent plan of government the foundational precepts of which call upon WE THE PEOPLE to retain in their own hands, wield directly when circumstances demand it, the ultimate power of sovereignty in the defense of "a free State".

Elias sent me a copy of the book.  Below is the movie Midnight Ride based on Edwin's book BY TYRANNY OUT OF NECESSITY and an interview with Edwin.  





MIDNIGHT RIDE - trailer 3


Edit to add: oops scratch the full movie for the moment; sorry about that...youtube nixed the account for OriginalIntentDoc.  But it'll be back up online at some point.  Everybody flips these things across accounts because the censorship is like a rabid dog.


Thought you might like it as a nice alternative to your usual.

I'm up to my eyeballs in writing right now.  Helping out on a film script, and have a couple of books I'm chipping away at.  My overseas trip has been pushed out so I'll be here all summer.

Good job on your first post back Dan.

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From: Dan
Date: June 16, 2015 at 6:56:58 PM EDT
To: Paul Z and Deborah N
Subject: Time frame for small world

1.)  Hamlet's Mill - de Santillana and von Dechend

2.)  Prophetic tradition

3.)  CohTT - the big world of humanity lost in time and space is incoherent.

4.)  The big world in the Eastern tradition is inspired by politics and its negative view or its escapism.


Cy,

Keep up the good work!

Nobody's going to get away with anything on your watch.

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Oh, they're getting away with plenty. They've been at it with impunity for quite awhile now...but you know what they say...give the criminals enough rope to hang themselves with. The imbeciles in DC don't need any help with the hanging...they're doing a great job all on their own. Grin. I'm munching popcorn out here...with extra butter.

http://conservativetribune.com/17-videos-martial-law/

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/technocracy-rising-patrick-wood-on-caravan-to-midnight/

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections/

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections-part-two/

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/jade-helm-2015-questions-and-reflections-part-three-mindwar/

https://youtu.be/Kfpgl6NqF0I

Main Core http://www.scribd.com/doc/162321199/2161-docs#page=36

"...Main Core is a program that the NSA uses as a predecessor of PROMIS, ECHELON etc"


Vatican push for removal of 6 billion people under new 'Earth Constitution'
http://americac2c.com/forum/topics/vatican-push-for-removal-of-6-billion-people-under-new-earth-cons?xg_source=msg_mes_network

If you've watched and read the former materials above then you'll recognize the use of the term "transformation" which is a hallmark of the members of technocracy culture...


"The Guardian goes on to report:

The pope is "aiming at a change of heart. What will save us is not technology or science. What will save us is the ethical transformation of our society," said Carmelite Father Eduardo Agosta Scarel, a climate scientist who teaches at the Pontifical Catholic University of Argentina in Buenos Aires."

http://www.naturalnews.com/050075_Vatican_climate_science_world_dep...




Bilderberg Leader P. Thiel And The CIA Surround Veterans Using Jade Helm - see original for embedded videos, images, & links:

All News Pipeline wrote:

June 16, 2015

Bilderberg Leader P. Thiel And The CIA Surround Veterans Using Jade Helm

By Jerry W. Davis - Published by All News PipeLine with permission - Original Article at JerryWDavis.com

I listened to a very interesting radio show last night called The Pete Santilli Show. Mr. Santilli was discussing a Bilderberger named Pete Thiel and Mr. Thiels artifical intelligence software called "Palantir", which is software that uses natural search language to identify potential criminal activy. It does other things too, but our conversation is focused on the "predicting criminal activity" part, and the relationship Pete Thiel has with Washington, D.C., the Bilderbergers and Jade Helm.

To save some time, "JADE" is a software application the military is now using that allocates manpower and equipment on-the-fly based on prior experience and events. It is an artificial intelligence application that learns which tactics and personnel were most successful in different scenarios. That is the "JADE" part of Jade Helm. JADE is taking the helm (lead) in this exercise, and the plan is to encompass the most dense pockets of veterans. It is either a practice run at fighting a civil war against constitutionalists, or it is indeed a civil war. The target: Dense populations of veterans giving the most bang-for-the-buck to the globalists.

First, a short wiki link to Mr. Thiels wiki page: (the link to the entire page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel )

Bilderberg Group Thiel is listed as a member of the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Group, a private, annual gathering of intellectual figures, political leaders and business executives.[62] Support for political activism Thiel is a self-described conservative libertarian.[63] Thiel has supported gay-rights causes such as the American Foundation for Equal Rights and GOProud.[64] In 2010, Thiel held Homocon 2010 for GOProud, an LGBT conservative/libertarian organization, in his New York City apartment. Thiel himself is gay.[65][66][67]



The reason I note his homosexualism is because no follower of Jesus Christ can also be a homosexual and promote homosexualism. Its important because if one does not follow The Lord, one does in fact belong to Satan. When one belongs to Satan, bad outcomes are easy.

Bilderbergers Steering Committee


Let's note that Thiel is on the Steering Committee of the Bilderbergers, and that he is a homosexual. Assuming you already know that the Bilderbergers want to depopulate the earth, which includes your own death, do you think that the homosexual Thiel considers Gods command that we are our brothers keeper as important? To be homosexual is to establish enmity toward God. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah due to homosexual sin, and tells us that homosexualism is an abomination to Him. So no one who practices homosexualism is a child of the Most High. If one is not a child of The Lord, then one is by default the child of Satan. There is no "middle zone" for the undecided.

We have the child of Satan Peter Thiel steering the direction of the most powerful group of other children of Satan, the Bilderbergers. He leads them, guides the conversations and sets the agendas. Don't you think it is reasonable to believe the Bilderbergers are neck deep in Jade Helm?

The Bilderbergers are well known to many, and any Startpage.com search (a private, secure search engine that uses anonymous google search results for you) for them will get you a ton of great information. The short story is this: Bilderbergers want to decrease the human population of the earthy by several billion. Yeah, that's you and me and all our friends - dead.

Its all about world government, hidden behind the word "globalization". Whenever you hear that word, know this: It is about world government where one despotic devil rules over a handful of other despotic devils, who own and operate major corporations, sit on the boards of others, "govern" nations, and all steal from each other while you and I starve to death or are executed because we are Christians and refuse the Mark of the Beast. Government becomes a mere tool to use military force to enslave populations of entire nations.

Jade Helm 15


Billionaire Pete Thiel the homosexual Bilderberger Steering Committee member is using his frighteningly powerful Palantir software to identify the areas where the most US military veterans are concentrated. According to his own wiki, he does business with multiple Federal agencies, including the NSA and CIA.

The CIA Funded Palantir


From Thiel's own wiki page, an image I took as proof that at least today, the information was published. Click the image to get a bigger look at it. The sentence in the center is all you need to read.

Image.Pete.Thiel.CIA.Palantir.Funding

So, either the CIA asked Thiel to run Palantir, or Thiel asked the CIA to fund it. Either way, Palantir is a spy machine that is used to predict outcomes based on variable input.

Note that Palantir is used "to predict outcomes". It is named after the Palantir stones used by Mordor in the LOrd of the Rings to see into the secret places.


Important! The CIA obviously believes JADE HELM has the DESIRED OUTCOME based on estimations by their Palantir technology.


The CIA wants to know where the most resistance to a world government ruling over the United States will come from and the answer, per Janet Napolitano, former Directer of the DHS, is "war veterans".

Download the unclassified DHS report here.

Watch the news video below.

Department of Homeland Security: Veterans are Terrorists and Right Wing Extremists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAygnB-xQCY

Palantir Map Of The Terrorist Veterans


The CIA subsequently wanted a map of the places where the population density of US war veterans is highest, and went to Pete Thiel, the Bilderberger and Director of Palantir to get the information.

Mr. Thiel produced the following map for the CIA. This map indicates where the CIA will find the most concentrated areas of military veterans, or as the DHS classifies them: TERRORISTS.

Image.Veterans.Palantir.jpg


The map above is unremarkable in and of itself. Lots of good fighters come from the Southwestern part of the United States. There are a lot of retired officers concentrated in Arizona, Texas and California.

But the one striking facet of the CIA/Palatin "veteran density" map is that it looks EXACTLY LIKE the JADE Helm 15 Hostile Territory map.

Image.Jade.Helm15.Large

In Colorado, the military dropped Jade Helm and replaced it with the same thing under a different name, Raider Focus. The dark blue area in the Colorado map is the Colorado Springs area. It is loaded up with US military veterans and I have seen the recent images of truck loads of razor wire being taken to somewhere in that area for the Raider Focus military operation.

Knowing the following:

The CIA is the financial sponsor of the Palantir software
The man who runs that Palantir operation is a homosexual Bilderberger leader
The Jade Helm/Raider Focus maps of operations surround the most dense populations of US military veterans
The DHS (another customer of Palatir) considers veterans terrorists

What do YOU think the true purpose of Jade Helm/Raider Focus is?


This original article located at http://www.jerrywdavis.com/bilderberg-leader-p-thiel-and-the-cia-surround-veterans-using-jade-helm/





Texas Fires Warning Shot! They Are Taking Their Gold Back - Retired US Navy SEAL Sends Dire Warning To Military And Govt Employees: They Will Kill You
http://allnewspipeline.com/Texas_Taking_Gold_Back_From_FED.php


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A rather fascinating picture: http://www.pakalertpress.com/heinous-image-of-fema-hanging-training-emerges-from-texas-humanity-on-the-brink-something-very-evil-is-coming/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakalert+%28Pak+Alert+Press%29


Yeah the ptb are hard at it, hanging themselves for all the world to see. I have some overseas friends who think they're all certifiable...insane that is. They wonder why we haven't done anything about it yet. Well, says I, if someone is bound and determined to commit suicide, they'll find a way to do it eventually...I guess we could call 'globalist watching' a form of morbid fascination.

It really does have more twists and turns than many a good book or movie.

Cy


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Post by Cyrellys on Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:24 pm

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#JadeHelm15 exposed: biometric & geospatial tracking of Americans: inputs for eugenics-based policy decisions. http://j.mp/1Gs63Cl


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FEMA Orders 200,000 Death Certificates–What For?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfrNGx_nEwA&feature=player_embedded


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Post by skaizlimit on Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:58 am

The Jade Helm tracking of citizens sounds like fun. Already there are considerable numbers of citizens hacking the tracking, and feeding in imaginary data.
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Post by dan on Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:44 am

From: Dan Smith
Date: June 18, 2015 at 12:38:39 PM EDT
To: Deborah Nash
Cc: Paul Zielinski
Subject: Fwd: Time frame for small world

Deborah,

[I'm referring to an intoductory section for Aliyah's KWF that will point to Colton's philosophy pages]

This ok, but I'm not thrilled.  It is little bit too pedantic, and I want to be on the wild side, to be provocative.  

But this is probably more like what Aliyah is looking for.  I will forward it to her in the meantime.  She only wants to post one edited section at time.  That is too slow for me.  We can run our independent site, if necessary, but right now we want focus on emails.

I would next like to recap where we are.  I see that Paul is challenging Jack on the qualia, which is where Jack is very weak.

We should be ready to engage with Chris.  I have a more tolerant view of what he is trying to do with his CTMU.  He is not trying to do standard logic, even though he may claim that.  

I like the fact that conventionalism may be a species of coherentism.  I will try to summarize the recent books that have been suggested.  Or I will guess at what they contain.

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Cy,

You know I am pushing for a one world gov't.  It is called God's (millennial) kingdom.  It will work only if we perceive that these are the end times.  I know you don't.  You subscribe to the scientific cosmology.  Very pragmatic of you, but maybe not acurate.

I think Ron has proof of the UTH, over the ETH, and he will be forced to release the proof in the next few months.  He also talks about having a craft that either I or the Princess will fly in the next few weeks.  He is coy about whether the 'craft' is primarily physical or metaphysical.

I'm not legal to drive a car again, yet. I can barely walk.



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dan wrote:
From: Dan Smith
Date: June 18, 2015 at 12:38:39 PM EDT
To: Deborah Nash
Cc: Paul Zielinski
Subject: Fwd: Time frame for small world

Deborah,

[I'm referring to an intoductory section for Aliyah's KWF that will point to Colton's philosophy pages]

This ok, but I'm not thrilled.  It is little bit too pedantic, and I want to be on the wild side, to be provocative.  

But this is probably more like what Aliyah is looking for.  I will forward it to her in the meantime.  She only wants to post one edited section at time.  That is too slow for me.  We can run our independent site, if necessary, but right now we want focus on emails.

I would next like to recap where we are.  I see that Paul is challenging Jack on the qualia, which is where Jack is very weak.

We should be ready to engage with Chris.  I have a more tolerant view of what he is trying to do with his CTMU.  He is not trying to do standard logic, even though he may claim that.  

I like the fact that conventionalism may be a species of coherentism.  I will try to summarize the recent books that have been suggested.  Or I will guess at what they contain.

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Cy,

You know I am pushing for a one world gov't.  It is called God's (millennial) kingdom.  It will work only if we perceive that these are the end times.  I know you don't.  You subscribe to the scientific cosmology.  Very pragmatic of you, but maybe not acurate.


Dan, back in 2008 on the UN Meeting thread (OMFv.1) I said I am not opposed to a one world government BUT we are not ready for it.  The corruption issue with the NWO/Illuminist crowd and several other competing parties 3/4 of whom are self destructive or destruction oriented prevent creating one as was outlined at the creation of the US Constitutional Republic which was designed to be a template for testing a governance system that could be duplicated later in global form.  This is part of the Source's Third Option where the facet of governance is concerned.

I correct you once more:  I DO NOT EXCLUSIVELY SUBSCRIBE TO SCIENTIFIC COSMOLOGY.  Science has only explored PART of one facet of reality at this point with a few exceptions, as I've read the Russians spent some time exploring the realm of consciousness.  

The universe and reality it inhabits is highly complex and humanity has barely scratched the surface of it.

Apparently you still are trapped in your own self-limitations wrt perception on my stance.  I'm not angry about your misunderstandings, just mildly annoyed but that's nothing new...I'm constantly replying to adjust your assumptions.


I think Ron has proof of the UTH, over the ETH, and he will be forced to release the proof in the next few months.  He also talks about having a craft that either I or the Princess will fly in the next few weeks.  He is coy about whether the 'craft' is primarily physical or metaphysical.

In a universe of psychophysiologic hologramic software operating matter (macro-quantum objects) and perception (upward chain of causality from here to Source/T-Boundary, through various biominds, accessed through a minds eye, including encoded reality matrices that consists of BOTH the UTH and the ETH, it is easy to find proof for either.  Does blindness to one exclude the existence of the other?  If I am blind does the tree I walked into not exist for me?  Amused remark.

We humans divy reality up into categories like UTH or ETH, when in truth it's all one reality with characteristics that both categories draw upon...separation into categories handicaps the perceiver and withholds the inter-connectivity information, imo.


I'm not legal to drive a car again, yet.  I can barely walk.

Give yourself some time to heal Dan.  Walking, driving, all that is not out of the question...just a temporary reset that opens other doors while you are physically required to be patient, grin.

Make the most of the opportunity, explore those other doors.




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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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Before you consider a "one world government" you should be aware of the developing "one world youth culture" -- often referred to by Michio Kaku as "rock 'n' roll and blue jeans" -- that appears to be sweeping across the planet.

Yes, some of this is engineered and propagates over the Internet (South Korea's Ministry of Future Creation and Science comes to mind) ...

“The People's Voice is the Voice of Heaven.”

On May 2013, a mission was created within the ministry, stating their purpose as "Becoming lead Gospel on ministry, and change country for god". According to their business plan, they planned to evangelize one person every month, identifying Islam as a cult organization. People worry about the religious neutrality of public servants.[12][13] A person in charge said "the business plan is just a document made by a member of the mission, and is not an official policy".[14]
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Science,_ICT_and_Future_Planning


(Note: The logo above was used by a K-Pop group called Girl's Day exclusively during promotion of a track called "Female President" -- "We have a female president. Why so serious? What’s the problem?" -- which was released shortly after N Korea slandered President Park. Released on the anniversary of the N Korean invasion of the South, it was later performed at the DMZ.)

2013 DMZ World Peace Concert https://youtu.be/6Rz_fnhu3vU?t=3093

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Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Cyrellys on Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:18 am

GSB/SSR wrote:

Before you consider a "one world government" you should be aware of the developing "one world youth culture" -- often referred to by Michio Kaku as "rock 'n' roll and blue jeans" -- that appears to be sweeping across the planet.

Yes, some of this is engineered and propagates over the Internet (South Korea's Ministry of Future Creation and Science comes to mind) ...

“The People's Voice is the Voice of Heaven.”

On May 2013, a mission was created within the ministry, stating their purpose as "Becoming lead Gospel on ministry, and change country for god". According to their business plan, they planned to evangelize one person every month, identifying Islam as a cult organization. People worry about the religious neutrality of public servants.[12][13] A person in charge said "the business plan is just a document made by a member of the mission, and is not an official policy".[14]
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Science,_ICT_and_Future_Planning


(Note: The logo above was used by a K-Pop group called Girl's Day exclusively during promotion of a track called "Female President" -- "We have a female president. Why so serious? What’s the problem?" -- which was released shortly after N Korea slandered President Park. Released on the anniversary of the N Korean invasion of the South, it was later performed at the DMZ.)

2013 DMZ World Peace Concert https://youtu.be/6Rz_fnhu3vU?t=3093

Is this the subliminal visual politics of the "voice of heaven"  





Case in POINT below:

Phoenix Rising and Rock Music
N---------

7/25/14

to me, Henderson, libertytree
Dear Dean

A little background on me and on what I stand for.

I am a former academic, however, prior to that I was a soldier and served almost 20 years as a criminal investigator, and criminal intelligence agent. Additionally, I knew some of the big band names from the 1970s, who expressed deep concern over what was happening to the kids, the bands and the music scene in California. Moreover, as a cop, my colleagues and friends inside military intelligence tried to warn people about what was coming and tried our very best to stop it. We were eventually overwhelmed.

You might want to think about what happened in the US and in Vietnam, pretty much during the same time frame with the Military Assistance Command Vietnam/Studies and Observation Group (MACV/SOG) and the MSUG (Michigan State University Group). There are deep ties between Michigan State University and policy planning for the war in Vietnam. SOG was a military intelligence/CIA consortium devoted to counterinsurgency operations...a deep black "Gladio" construct.

May I suggest that you look precisely to what was occurring at the University of Michigan (Weathermen) and Michigan State University (deep state program planning), and the scene at Greenwich Village, and Laurel Canyon (western and eastern counterculture) from 1960 to the dissolution of the Yippee movement in the 1980s. You may find links of interest between the California scene and Michigan, specifically between the Ford Foundation, The Weather Underground, The SLA, The George Jackson Brigade, the Black Panthers, the FBI, and events that transpired later in California and elsewhere. Abbie Hoffman, who died conveniently of suicide did graduate work in California. Jerry Rubin died conveniently in LA weeks after a car accident in California. Of course, Rubin and Hoffman had deep ties to the more radical elements of the counterculture movement, and both had ties to U of C, Berkeley and to the Ford Foundation. Bill Ayers and the Weathermen were involved in direct actions and terrorism in the USA. Ayers is suspected of being one of Obama's mentors.

There are several of us, who are looking at events inside the US with the advent of the hippie scene at Haight Ashbury, the following scene at Laurel Canyon, and the creation of the counterculture and its CIA run gurus (Laurel Canyon, the Haight and The Village are all linked together) in a much broader context. Specifically, in following links between domestic political chaos, the violence erupting in the US associated with the Vietnam War and the peace and civil rights movements, the counterculture, disappearances, murders and assassinations to what was happening in Vietnam (re: disappearances--see the Gestapo's Nacht und Nebel program [NIght and Fog]).

In other words, if there was a Phoenix Program operational in Vietnam designed to eliminate enemy political opposition and opposition infrastructure, was there a similar deep black program in existence inside of the United States? We think there were several, including the more familiar Operation Chaos from the FBI's Division 5 as part of Hoover's COINTELPRO schema. We also believe US Army Intelligence was involved as were elements of the Mafia.

Take a look at BLOWBACK, by Chirstopher Simpson and look at the Reichsicherheitshauptamt (RSHA's) organization chart and note the similar structure to the extant Homeland Security apparatus, and especially look at the RSHA's AMT VII...Ideological Enemies under the command of SS Brigadefuehrer, Dr. Franz Six. Look at the links between AMT VII and the SS's notorious Einsatzgruppen (Special Forces) and then see if you can find a copy of the Nazi SS's counterinsurgency manual.

The similarity of Phoenix, MACV/SOG and Operation Chaos and to some degree what was happening in the Counterculture Movement of the 1960s-1970s becomes eerily clear.

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?960-Operation-Phoenix

Blowback: The First Full Account of America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Disastrous Effect on The cold war, Our Domestic and Foreign Policy.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/ManBox1142_B_CS.html

http://sttpml.org/links-between-nazi-secret-occupation-plan-for-uk-and-todays-u-s-special-operations-and-social-systems-engineering-campaigns/

Note: While conducting academic research on the Nazi police, deep Nazi state geopolitics, and the Nazi intelligence service I had access to a copy of Walter Schllenberg's "Black Book," the Nazi intelligence handbook for the invasion of England and the detention and liquidation of English person's of interest. John Loftus former DOJ OSI investigator and others suspected this handbook and the Nazi counterinsurgeny manual developed by SS Nazi Police Divisions, in conjunction with Dr. Franz Six, commander of the RSHA's AMT VII, Ideological Combat Section, the creation of US Special Forces with embedded Nazi personnel was the precursor to the notorious MAV/SOG's Operation Phoenix that liquidated hundreds of thousands of people in Vietnam.

Finally, take a look at the hippie movement and the counterculture. We posit that the Vietnam War, the widescale drug addiction following the start of the war, the appearance of hippies, rock music, rock stars, hippie celebrities and gurus, and the counterculture movement are all liked together. Essentially, the NWO crowd used the war in Vietnam to addict and dissipate our youth, and to kill our youth, and used them as the spear points to establish the foundations of the New World Order in America, and consequently wiped out an entire generation of American and Vietnamese kids.

Nobody has been held accountable for this and we want to see justice done. We know who did it and why. That is what and I others stand for...justice for murdered American and Vietnamese kids who had no idea they were pawns in a murderous game to usher in the New World Order.

http://www.amazon.com/Invasion-1940-Nazi-Plan-Britain/dp/095361512X





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Deep peace of the flowing air to you,
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you,
Deep peace of the shining stars to you,
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Thanks for writing Cyrellys! Have to pass on the Manticore thing as I am just...
7/27/14
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7/27/14

to Bob, me, Henderson
I am not sure if this extremely interesting article by McGowan went through on my note to you in regards to Phoenix Rising. However, McGowan is on to something here. I am not sure if he sees the broader context and the links to the Vietnam War and to the social engineering nexus behind the war, the drugs and the counterculture movement.

There are some also puzzling links between rocker Jim Morrison, the actors Jeri Ryan, the Borg female "Seven of Nine," actor J.T. Walsh, her husband, Senator Ryan, and Obama.

Jim Morrison, the son of Admiral Morrison of Vietnam War association reputedly died under very mysterious circumstances. Actor Jeri Ryan and her husband, Senator Jack Ryan were involved in a rather ugly divorce. The divorce proceedings suddenly were made available to the public despite a court ordering them sealed. Senator Ryan suddenly was disgraced for allegedly attempting to pimp out his wife. Obama, a virtual nobody won his seat in the Senate, and the rest is history.

J.T. Walsh a fine actor and nobody's fool dropped dead. The rather good TV series "Dark Skies" exploring the connections between ET's, malevolent government officials, and the Vietnam War suddenly folded. One of the series' planned seasons included the emergence of the New World Order and its domination of global politics linked to an alien agenda.

There was something definitely "strange" happening here.

[2008] Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation by Dave McGowan


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There are some things about this that I am not at liberty to discuss as some of the actors of the counterculture movement and rock music are still living. However, keep in mind that as a cop, my colleagues and I noticed that every time a rock icon got offed or died, kids went out an died in despair. The last wave of copycats deaths that I am familiar with was related to the supposed suicide of Kurt Cobain.

QD

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Deep peace of the flowing air to you,
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you,
Deep peace of the shining stars to you,
Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you, for ever


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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Phoenix Rising and Rock Music

Sounds right, very interesting...
Cyrellys

7/27/14

to Naconah, Henderson, Bob
And here's the WEIRD end of all this: wrt a NWO government,

you said: "One of the series' planned seasons included the emergence of the New World Order and its domination of global politics linked to an alien agenda."

Earlier this year beginning tail end of Dec and early January there was a whole series of back channel dialogs on the subject of US foreign and domestic policy being "influenced by an alien agenda".

I wrote a number of posts at my personal blog at Open Minds Forum on these dialogs that even the exopolitics community was slow to catch on to. Dr. Michael Salla of the Exopolitics Instituted finally did a piece on his Examiner.com site wrt it after Steven Bassett went a little bugnuts on Sorcha Faal (whose bouncing ball was subsequently knocked out of the ball park by FARS News Agency (IRAN) and a whole string of others including FORBES! - See the tail end of this email for why FORBES is REALLY interesting...) being used as the central mouth piece just like what happened in August of 2007 when Cheney's globals tried kyping a set of glassmakers out of Minot AFB and a group led by a naval officer out of the JCS had to step in and intercept the plane in transit and the clean up in the aftermath upwards of 6 mos. later. The dialogs ran all the way down through April and May.

It was started by the Canadian PM in the wake of Medeved's (Russia) comments about extraterrestrials and indicating the Russians were "off the plantation" and was in full swing by the main event that sent the roof to the moon on January 14, 2014. We now know today just how far off the plantation Putin is thanks to events in the Ukraine.

What is equally interesting is that on January 16, 2014 in close proximity to all this, Michael Snyder posted a comprehensive article about the purges by the Administration of top military brass.

While following all that was going on, my forum moderator who was also monitoring the 'non-registered' readership via the forum's stats noticed the massive increase in "freaking ninjas" (and you should know that same "undead primate" has recently checked-in-to-the-house, probably in reaction to the recent emails and the new manticore site since we're not exactly shunning the ET aspect of the deep state equation like good little sheeple.

Bard asked Jake Reason, back in January, he's our other Admin, "Why is this the new Area 51? Care to elaborate?"

and this flurry too:

Oh, FYI Your thought experiment? How accurate was it the other morning? 50% 70%
Just curious.

Trust me, its worse on this end.

As a disclaimer I should point out that I have not had any alcohol in my system since roughly 2008.
Well, unless two beers count during a short dinner. Nor do any drugs flow in my system. I wanted a clear head in trying to understand this all.

Do you think it helped?

Jury is still out, but you are right about what you posted on the Bible thread in regards to thought insemination.100% accurate. Mind you, I am just going off the assumption of the Hundreds of billions on R&D were quite a success.

Freaking White Ninjas are everywhere. I likened it to Alice stumbling all over the place...

Anyhoo - God Bless America! Here is to apple pie, beer, babes in bikinis, Football, and barbecues! Salute, to all the Vets and the armed forces. Raising my flag in honor. Did I forget anything? Oh yes, peace and love to all God's creatures. Let's all hug.

Back to OM-51

I had a thought experiment also. Answering odd emails from UK. Pretty stupid I know, but sometimes I like to chase all potential breadcrumbs. So if I end up dead or implicated in some rouge plot... Just call it b.s.

Conspiracy? Yes.
Hurt? Never.

SCREENSHOTS!


END QUOTE.

You should for context wrt "2008" which is the "2017 Unambiguous Event" disclosure story, check out Jakes response where he makes it quite clear what all this is about.

Here is where the deep state first attempted to take Putin to task for being off the plantation. See the "barenakedislam" material.

Here is my infamous Toastmaster's Speech of which a short version was given with successful reception on 01-28-2014; also note that it was during this time the "suicides" of economists and bankers (SEE my FORBES comment above) came to light as the DS attempted to 'clean up loose strings'.

Transcript of the TM speech:

01/28/2014 Speech #3

Table of Contents
Title: Why Does Extraterrestrial Contact Matter?
Purpose: To Inform
Introduction
Body
Conclusion
Bibliography (End Notes)

Re-Arrangement for time constraints: Written form – none. No time constraint.

Good morning Mr Toastmaster and fellow Toastmasters,

I'm here today to speak with you about why Extraterrestrial Contact matters. As an exopolitician, this question is the most common question I encounter from laymen in the field. Extraterrestrial Contact matters because of all the issues, which drive the questions, events and evolution of our world today, this is the most influential. It is important to every person within this nation because our ability to self-govern as a Republic is hand-tied if we are uninformed about the existence of this profound influence. This in turn has a profound effect on our definition of who we are as a people, both individually and collectively.

Consider: You are now a character in the last book you read. Who are you?

Since the public, which must give consent to govern, will be unable to recognize and responsibly respond to dialog and events related to the contact paradigm, it misses out on the importance of pieces of information which are a result of the actions and reactions of those who are informed.

For example, most people have no idea that on January 14, 2014 history was made. What the public missed, on the 14th, was a public confirmation ofdeclaration that U.S. Domestic and International Policy is driven by 'an alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda'.i It would have been more fully noticed and understood if the public at large had been present to know ET had passed a message to the Powers That Be (PTB) in 2008 through an inter-service group communicating the following message, “You are not allowed to reduce the population using weapons of mass destruction.”ii

We are a Republic! It is the consent of the governed provided to elected officials which is to conduct the business of this nation, yet the pink elephant beneath grandma's skirt, has spawned a 2nd form of government, known in exopolitics asShadow Government, consisting in-part of inter-relational influence by 50 of the globe's most financially endowed corporations. The public facing the greatest rise in questions over individual and governmental conduct since 1775, understands that there are many problems conventionally, but since they are uninformed, they have no means to evaluate if they are equipped to address questions pertaining to individual and government conduct related in any fashion to extraterrestrial contact regardless of if the conduct in question is originating from the common system or the shadow system.

For instance, someone who is uninformed would not understand the implications of the following quote, “Armageddon draws nigh. It is presaged by the cauldron of post modernism. There are two possibilities, 1. Physical Armageddon or 2. Metaphysical Armageddon” Dan Smith, physicist; Virginia January 28, 2014; Open Minds Forum; remarks on a pending paradigm event believing it will take some catastrophic form due to the current intellectual and spiritual condition of the people of this planet.

Headlines are passed over because the public is unable to recognize the relation to be seen, as with the following: “Watch Obama's Mentor Confronted on his 'Re-Education Camps'.” Bill Ayers, Weather Underground, or the equally enigmatic headline, FEMA soliciting companies for “Motor coach evacuation of general population.”iii

This unnatural truth embargo operating in our midst strips from America her ability to evaluate policy, ethics, and moral presentation in all acts and dialog. It stripped from America her ability to recognize the historic series of events which occurred this month.

Had that embargo not been in place, the population which still believes it is self-governing would have seen the following pattern:

2008 UN Meeting Event communicated to a limited working group of interested individuals, in real time. Content of message/event involves: ET sends a message to planetary PTB about not being allowed to depopulate the planet using weapons of mass destruction, including an order to disclose the existence of ET or ET will disclose for them.iv A deadline is given with the outcome of message.

December 10, 2013 John Podesta returns to the White House – he's a staunch supporter of Disclosure. “The truth is out there Dave.”v

Early January 2014 RT (Russia Today) interviews Paul Hellyer, Ret. of Canada – Raw Storyvi , RT videovii or hereviii Openly speaks about extraterrestrial contact and Charles Hall's experiences.

January 11, 2014 Instigator, whatdoesitmean.com, a notorious intelligence community back-channel communications tool, publishes a compilation of information including notations about documents which provide a declaration that extraterrestrial contact influences US domestic and foreign policyix

January 12, 2014 Iran sponsored FARS news agency publishes commentary on the whatdoesitmean.com piecex Quote: “In Snowden’s own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there “were actually two governments in the US: the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark.” xi

January 12, 2014 Political Strategist notes Orly Tate & Co. is closing in on Obama: "Things are so not clear for me .... but I seem to have come to be OK with it . Its amazing . I spent 2 days with some very patriotic men . Remember Michael Peroutka ? And Sheriff Richard Mack ? Was at a banquet with those guys . Both are right in the middle of this spiritual battle. Orly filed her brief in time here in the state of Md. and Mack is gathering his posse . They are all meeting in LV . Sheriff Joe is gathering them all together in Phoenix in Feb . Its getting close to Game Time . Zullo said he was going to shock the world March I am trying to go so I'll know in Feb.
Always in Liberty, xxxxxxxxxxx" xii

January 14, 2014 Washington Post publishes article: “Iranian News Agency says US is Secretly Run by Nazi Space Aliens. Really.” As a regularly used news site by the US State Department to make under-the-table comments on reactive governmental policies and events, Washington Posts commentary on the FARSnewsagency piece constituted confirmation via back-channel with the usual plausible deniability built-in.xiii

January 14, 2014 Secretary of State John Kerry, the top authority on US policy, meets with the Secretary of State for the Vaticanxiv The Vatican having made their stance on extraterrestrial contact clear in proximity to the 2008 UN event, and in several subsequent statements in the years since, is pro-Disclosure.

January 14, 2014 Dr Michael Salla of the Exopolitics Institute weighs in on the Washington Post articlexv “The U.S. and other world media dutifully followed the Post’s lead and began running their own stories. Forbes, Jerusalem Post,UPI, Huffington Post, The Blaze and other news sources were now covering the Iranians’ stunning claim.” (active links in quote see source)

January 14, 2014 Israeli news publishes an official statement concerning the confusing behavior of US policy: "Israel's Defence Minister has accused the Secretary of State John Kerry - of operating from an incomprehensible obsession and a sense of Messianism."xvi

January 16th 2014 Steven Bassett, Paradigm Research, publishes a hostile hit piece titled “Let the Disinformation Begin” on the whatdoesitmean.com piece and calls for whatdoesitmean.com aka Sorcha Faal to be shut down.xvii

2 patriot sites publish articles; one (January 18, 2014) on US disarming of the general populationxviii and the one (January 10, 2014) is an arm twisting piecexixpossibly designed to goad Russia to attack Syria over the recent terrorist bombings, something Obama was unable to complete with the removal of 1, possibly 3 nukes from Dyess AFB TX in Septemberxx, where the black ops elements attempted to complete the mission to destroy Charleston Harborxxi, in an effort to blame Syria and effect a new conflict resulting in a fresh wave of oath-keeping military service people removed from America to be engulfed overseas in that conflict, beyond the reach of a pre-designed martial law situation here in the US making it possible to fully disarm the general population using foreign troops already stationed in-country. Two Generals, and One Admiral who intercepted those glass-makers and detonated one safely 560 miles off-shore in deep ocean – which seismically was registered by the Russians prompting a statement by Putin on the matter, were then relieved of duty and purged from their careers as so many others have been.xxii

January 19, 2014 Canadian business owner and Co-Admin of Open Minds Forum sums up concisely a portion of what is now happening: On 1/14/14 the globally colluding News Corporations published an announcement of these two Foreign Policies to within earshot of approx 1/5th of the world's population. xxiii

January 20th (approx) UFODigest.com, who published the original 2008 inter-service group event description, publishes a discerning piece on Charles Hall's Tall Whites which was part of the material contained in the January 11 piece bywhatdoesitmean.com on US policy in the Snowden documents.xxiv

Saturday January 25th, 2014 on the heels of all the purgingxxv and aftermath of the September 2013 Dyess incident Senator Tester “Backs nuclear forces review”, Great Falls Tribune Newspaper – Great Falls Montana. But he is 'confident' it won't impact the future of Malmstrom. Seriously.

All in one month.

For further information listen to this audio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VJi_6K9THt8 250,000 Chinese troops, land compensation, and nukes update – interview with Garrow

So. Why does extraterrestrial contact matter? What is that character in that proverbial book? Who are we? These questions, and so many others about our current human condition, plague us and it is of utmost import because the question of who we are as a people is tied up within it. We define ourselves as self-governing, yet everything about extraterrestrial contact as a covert influencestrips from us our ability to give or withhold consent to govern. It strips from us our ability to recognize events, influences, and patterns of conduct. It strips from us control over policy and laws. In this state of ambiguity it allows corruption to run rampant, and hands off control of our nation to people we barely understand and events we hear nothing about or do not recognize as significant.

In attending to the subject of extraterrestrial contact, we return to ourselves a small measure of meaningful comprehension with which to work toward governing ourselves once more. This is why it matters. In recognizing it matters we once again have the ability to define who we are as a people and re-take from the corrupt brokers of power the ability to wholly write our own story - for us, by us.

I have come to suspect, this restoration of power or empowerment was a part of the reason ET said, “Disclose to your people, or we will.” In a time when we stand upon the brink of completing the construction of a global governance, not of the people nor for the people, I can only imagine what consternation our inherent corruption, deceit within governance, and self-illusions creates in the Greater Community. The questions of our time and the evolution of our self-understanding matters; is meaningful because they are steps toward a more mature presentation of our selves as a people coming forward into a universe – as a world making a debut.

Finis. FiOs.

Bibliography (End Notes)
ihttp://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1730.htm
iiUN Meeting, Open Minds Forum v.1 2008, Inter-service Group communication of real-time event.
iiihttp://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t42p915-the-bible-ufos-et-and-the-ancients-part-3#4960
ivUN Meeting, Open Minds Forum v.1 2008, Inter-service Group communication of real-time event.
vhttp://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/12/10/john_podesta_returns_to_the_white_house_will_discover_truth_about_aliens.html
vihttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/06/canadas-former-defense-chief-says-space-aliens-live-among-us-but-hate-our-nukes/
viihttp://rt.com/shows/sophieco/%D1%81anada-minister-defense-ufo-959/
viiihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pg6VTzacb9I
ixhttp://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1730.htm
xhttp://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921021000393
xihttp://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/snowden-and-greenwald-the-men-who-leaked-the-secrets-20131204
xiihttp://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t158p255-uncommon-thoughts-on-common-things-cyrellys#4696
xiiihttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/01/13/iranian-news-agency-says-the-u-s-is-secretly-run-by-nazi-space-aliens-really/
xivhttp://m.state.gov/mc60944.htm
xvhttp://www.examiner.com/article/washington-post-examines-iran-news-claim-that-nazi-space-aliens-run-usa Fisher’s conclusion is that claims of Nazi space aliens running the US is propaganda by Iran’s hardline factions to rule out cooperation with the U.S. in current nuclear negotiations. On the other hand, by giving the claims of the Fars News Agency serious coverage, the Washington Post was doing more than simply reveal the intransigence of Iran’s hardline factions. It was giving serious news coverage to claims that have been on fringe conspiracy websites for years. The US national security apparatus has been allegedly negotiating and colluding with space aliens for years according to multiple sources cited in Exposing US Government Policies on Extraterrestrial Life. If some of these sources are accurate, it is feasible that U.S. sovereignty has been seriously compromised. Now the Washington Post has made such controversial claims legitimate material for the Fourth Estate to examine in light of current nuclear negotiations between Iran and the world community. Whether propaganda, truth, or a mixture of both, the Washington Post’s examination of Fars News Agency claims of the U.S. being run by Nazi space aliens has sparked an international debate.

xvihttp://www.defensenews.com/article/20140114/DEFREG04/301140043/Israel-Defense-Minister-Blasts-Kerry-Security-Plan
xviihttp://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t158p315-uncommon-thoughts-on-common-things-cyrellys#4891
xviiihttp://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/obama-kerry-united-nations-treaty-requires-us-to-hand-over-american-gun-registrations/
xixhttp://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/10/putin-vows-to-nuke-mecca/
xx http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VJi_6K9THt8
xxihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p3hW5FB1DKY
xxiihttp://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/why-are-dozens-of-high-ranking-officers-being-purged-from-the-u-s-military
xxiiihttp://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t42p885-the-bible-ufos-et-and-the-ancients-part-3#4851
xxivhttp://ufodigest.com:8080/article/out-world-grey-disaster-roswell-july-2nd-1947
xxvhttp://www.infowars.com/nuke-commander-purge-another-34-missile-launch-officers-terminated-by-air-force/






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this part strictly confidential. The doc might still be out floating around (not sure) but the rest has been wiped even out of google. Fail safe (partial). Confidential because further FS can result in funerals. But if there is anything to the 2017 deal then the liberty leaders have a need to know.

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Of course, no problem with that. I can read between the lines but help me out with the undead primate, the narco cop ... a little konfuuusing. There was a former narco cop prominent in the anti movement, who killed himself or was killed, cannot remember his name.

These assholes think they are above it all. What makes them think they don't have shadows on their asses just waiting to blow them away? Again, Hitler and his gang never saw Stauffenberg coming.

I take it Dark Victory resonated with you...

Jeri Ryan could say a lot, but she is keeping her head down.

Deep peace of the running wave to you,
Deep peace of the flowing air to you,
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you,
Deep peace of the shining stars to you,
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Freaking ninjas are all sorts of deep state associated names, everything from places you can find three letter acronym offices in near proximity, to corporations with deep state affiliations, RAND, etc.

Now the generally speaking the undead primate is Norfolk Virginia. Even though the 2008 event was not a navy initiative, they had an interest and stake in the dialogs ever since because: a. the communicator wore their uniform and was sanctioned, and under his oath to do what was done. b. because as the Red Bear meeting in 2009 with an active duty man's red square relatives indicated "the russians found it mighty interesting that when the NWO moved tools, equipment, positions, and did practices, well, the naval facet never seemed to be involved." Also that the naval facet has been the traditional hold out against the NWO and has the most record their belt moving to intercept, intervene and clean up the worst acts of the NWO bunch.

They also suffered a good deal under the purges. As undead (intel) primate (a human construct) we see them as regular visitors...In the height of dialog activities we also see individuals experiencing discrete copies being made of their entire hard drives. This you see via external modem and massive data outbound from your machine which does no damage and does not interfere with your operations other than a slight slow down in processing speed.

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In a nutshell within the nuthouse, while the outreach project is 'officially' 'shutdown', and they are no longer allowed to speak or interact with us, someone is continuing to monitor and the back channel website dialogs are continuing despite the 'policy' against it. In other words "middle management" is still operational even if their hands are tied. Someone still opposes "the Man".

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Norfolk is USN central. Back in the 1990s we became aware that the US intel community appeared to be split into three factions, all seemingly at odds with each other. Not sure if this was a result of penetrations by hostile agencies, or just boys swinging dicks.

1. Faction 1. The Nazi international penetration and takeover of US intel-the foundation of the parallel state. They had links with DINA, MI5 and 6, BND
2. Faction 2. The anti-NWO faction, chiefly by the ONI element
3. Faction 3. Non-committals or opportunists playing both sides

Possibly we have faction 4. Obummer's left leaning fuckwads.

See: Gunter Russbacher (deceased) and the October Surprise and see Rodney Stich

We call ninjas...shooters don't matter who they work for.

We call the undead primates, zombs


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Deep peace of the flowing air to you,
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you,
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LMFAO...they always will. Somebody is always moaning and bitching and starting shit against the man...the man has a poor conception on just how deeply he is hated by his own. Tough shit.

When the X Files started I was alerted that there was something going on...for one thing it was TOO EFFING FAR OUT!!! Somebody was sending a message or gauging public reaction to an upcoming disclosure. And then we had Dark Skies...which was just as good and then? POOF! The X Files and Dark Skies were really more in tune with the paradigm as they pointed fingers at events on record or hinted at events and people associated with those events. We should get the series and watch it again, this time with more of a focused lens for hidden messages. That was the man or his go fers talking to us and some of those dudes were slipping messages into the programming. I am certain of it. One of the X-Files episodes or movies depicted a huge saucer crashed at one of the poles...heard rumors about that for several years before it was shown. The Files hinted at mind control, DNA mutations/splice jobs, assassinations, ET infiltration, MJ12, and human body parts mining and the freaky black eye dudes.

You can find Dark Skies the complete series on Ebay for 20.00 shipped--gonna buy it.
The X-Files complete series runs about 50.00.

QD

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Deep peace of the flowing air to you,
Deep peace of the quiet earth to you,
Deep peace of the shining stars to you,
Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you, for ever


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Precisely! and I give a nod on the three factions list. Its accurate, except you can throw the directors behind O's left lean'rs in with group 1. But I can understand how sometimes they seem like something extra at times too. Maybe that's because each is sub-grouped too.

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I remember watching X-Files as a kid, but I never seen any of the Dark Skies. Hearing you describe it sounds like a grand tour of the exopolitical landscape. Its all there. The only part mia is the guy saying "who's gonna believe any of this?" Meaning it doesn't matter if someone talks, only if someone has enough of the details and or proximity to "prove" it!

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Exactly, going to buy both series and sit back and this time watch with a critical eye. And have fun doing it. Dark Skies was much darker in theme and tone than X. They said it was canceled because of poor ratings. I suggest it was getting way close to the truth and the man balked!

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Deep peace of the quiet earth to you,
Deep peace of the shining stars to you,
Deep peace of the Son of Peace to you, for ever


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xxiiihttp://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t42p885-the-bible-ufos-et-and-the-ancients-part-3#4851
xxivhttp://ufodigest.com:8080/article/out-world-grey-disaster-roswell-july-2nd-1947

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Post by Cyrellys on Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:54 am

There's more.
There's always more.

And in a haunting tone I remark, my voice is my violence.

From the mists of the mountains a deafening call
Bellows down over the plains
On a host of battle-worn ears it does fall
Pushing out through the thunder and rain
These men of the north they have suffered too long
The anger it swells in their veins
Of the spirited roars of lost warriors' songs
Distant echoes are all that remain

And my voice is my violence
Clear the sky's frozen tears
And no more we'll be silent
With this Sovngarde song in our ears

And we stand tall
Sons of the snow
We will not fall
Under these blows
For our hearts they are hardy
Our spirits are strong
And our voices are lifted into
This Sovngarde song

Conquer the anger and ravenous rage!
Make it a part of your power
Pummeling down let your bloodlust engage!
Under your force they will cower

Feeling the fury so pure and so bright
Breaking the bonds of surrender
Under the moon for our home we will fight
And we will die to defend her

And my voice is my violence
Clear the sky's frozen tears
And no more we'll be silent
With this Sovngarde song in our ears

And we stand tall
Sons of the snow
We will not fall
Under these blows
For our hearts they are hardy
Our spirits are strong
And our voices are lifted into
This Sovngarde song
Sovngarde song
Sovngarde song

These perilous peaks
On the rim of the sky
I move in the midst
Of the clouds drifting by
At the top of the world
On a white, doomful day
Men of wisdom will show me the way

And we stand tall
Sons of the snow
We will not fall
Under these blows
For our hearts they are hardy
Our spirits are strong
And our voices are lifted into
This Sovngarde song




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Date: June 20, 2015 at 10:23:27 AM EDT
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Paul and Deborah,

First of all, atman = brahman.  There is only one soul that recirculates ~10^10 times that we share, all of us being soul mates and the reincarnations of each other.  Our eidetic memories, though, may be personal, and maybe cannot be accessed by other people and 'God'= brahman.  This is also universal man.    

Brahman is the cosmic Cs.  It has access to everything.  But it operates with a basically human soul.

There is no such thing as emptiness, except possibly as a psychological state.  Even the physicists know that there is no void.  It is just an abstraction.  Ask Paul this.  Ultimately there is agape or universal love.  This is the Parmenidean One that is that is held together by the cosmic Self.  

BTW, I heard from Ron this morn.  He was at a base, about to get on a helicopter to another base.  Maybe he preparing the craft for Aliyah and me to fly.

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Cy,

There evidently was a lot going on, back in 2014, but I don't see any overal pattern to it, besides a conspiracy involving a second coming, which is long overdue.



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Dan: There is only one soul that recirculates ~10^10 times that we share, all of us being soul mates and the reincarnations of each other.

I think I just understood Dan's CTCotS idea for the first time! (Closed Timelike Curve of the Soul)

This is, of course, naturally related to the idea of a multiverse -- since other times (experiences) are special cases of parallel universes ;-) But then Dan's reasoning strikes me as rather circular!


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Post by dan on Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:47 pm

Gary,

Better late than never!  

But I don't see why we need your infinite multiverse. We are the children of God, not the spawn of God.  Each human is a universe in itself.  Each of us has an inifinite imagination.  We need to see ourselves as one family in God if we are to survive the Apocalypse that you and Cy are predicting and preparing for.

You are infatuated with quantity.  We don't need infinite anything, except love..... it's the one thing we have too little of.   You want your God impersonal, I don't know why.  

What you and Cy see are unwitting preparations for our transition from chrysalis to butterfly. There will be much confusion and fear. All you see is chaos. The hidden hand of God you see as a dark conspiracy. This is not a conspiracy on some god-forsaken planet.

What do you think that God's kingdom will look like? There will be no need for police. Of couse, there are deluded souls in positions of power. Cy's network is keeping track of them. Good work!

The paradigm shift to the small world will be stunning one. All the rest of this will seem like a bad dream.



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Post by Cyrellys on Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:03 pm

Quote: "A large burst of naturally occurring methane has occurred in Lambton Shores, Ontario Canada, located about 80 miles Northeast of Detroit along the shores of Lake Michigan. Appearing more like a violent geyser eruption at Yellowstone super-volcano, this large emission of methane caught locals off guard — as this is not ‘normal’ by any means. Officials are saying this is a ‘natural’ burst of gas from the ground, and have issued a local state of emergency – warning people to keep away from the area. Methane bursts are a worst case scenario according to professionals like the Arctic Methane Emergency Group (AMEG).

Scientists have warned we would start seeing these types of methane emissions in sub-tundra areas now that the Post Glacial Rebound Effect is taking hold in earnest.

See more on AMEG here:

http://ameg.me/

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Snip from same page but alternate article on same event: Gas has continued to leak into the air since Wednesday morning, and with no indication of when it might stop.

Source - http://dutchsinse.com/



The reason I mention this is because it's related to this: http://dutchsinse.com/6182015-watch-out-central-craton-being-displaced-showing-earthquakes-southwest-us-movement-coming-soon/

Over the past 24 hours, a noteworthy series of earthquakes has progressed along the CENTER of the North American craton from the Midwest to the Northwest United States.

Multiple M3.0 – M4.0+ earthquakes occurred almost equidistantly spaced across an area of almost 1,500 miles in less than one days time.

24 hours of earthquakes june 18 2015



The significant things which stand out about this outbreak of earthquake activity are the fact that these events are occurring across the actual “stable” portion of the craton, not along the “edge” as we might normally see, and the “direction” of displacement from East to West.

The other important factor for these earthquakes is the area displaced, the entire Central to Northwest portion of the plate showing movement.

Make note of the diagram below, and look at the “deformed craton” in comparison to where the earthquakes are occurring.

I would venture an “educated guess” that since we’re seeing rare earthquake activity across the center of the plate, this should now put pressure on the SOUTHWEST United States, and cause displacement upon the “deformed craton” edge.

Make note of the area where the green meets the purple.. watch for larger activity in those locations. Also, in the above diagram make note of the other states which reside in the brown/orange area.

New Madrid and East coast United States CENTRAL CRATON (not the edge like we normally see) might need to watch out for a bit of larger movement over the next week.

Unfortunately, this includes me here in Saint Louis Missouri.

I’ll heed my own advice, and follow the motto … “don’t be scared, be prepared“.

Magnitude 4.2 in Central Northern Oklahoma at a fracking operation:

http://dutchsinse.com/6172015-large-fracking-earthquake-strikes-midwest-m4-2-at-oklahoma-pumping-operation/

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Magnitude 3.4 in Central Northern Nebraska:

http://dutchsinse.com/6182015-very-rare-nebraska-earthquake-m3-4-hits-at-the-south-dakota-border-man-made/

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Magnitude 3.0 in West Central Montana:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/mb15196752#general_summary

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Magnitude 3.1 in Southwest Washington State near Mount Adams Volcano:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/uw61029517#general_summary


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6/20/2015 — California’s Pisgah Volcano (East of Los Angeles) hit by rare earthquake
http://dutchsinse.com/6202015-californias-pisgah-volcano-east-of-los-angeles-hit-by-rare-earthquake/


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Post by dan on Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:33 pm

Cy,

If this activity is anomalous, it shows that supernatural forces are involved, which should be a good thing.  It is not just a conspiracy by some misguided humans.  It is a sign of the Endtimes, leading up to the Second Coming.

If Ron get's his craft flying in the next few weeks, it sounds as I will get to fly it before the Princess, and I'll try to land it on the White House lawn, of course. Then we'll see what happens!




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Dan, the multiverse is infinite and simple, but universes, worlds and humans are complex and finite.


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Post by dan on Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:30 pm

Gary,

I don't see anything simple about a multiverse.  Nor do I see anything simple about infinity.

Humans are more than complex.  We know how to be coherent when we want to be.

What is simple is love or agape.
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Dan: It's simply "simpler" ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Multiverse

Proponents and critics disagree about how to apply Occam's razor. Critics argue that to postulate a practically infinite number of unobservable universes just to explain our own seems contrary to Occam's razor. In contrast, proponents argue that, in terms of Kolmogorov complexity, the proposed multiverse is simpler than a single idiosyncratic universe.

For example, multiverse proponent Max Tegmark argues:

An entire ensemble is often much simpler than one of its members. This principle can be stated more formally using the notion of algorithmic information content. The algorithmic information content in a number is, roughly speaking, the length of the shortest computer program that will produce that number as output. For example, consider the set of all integers. Which is simpler, the whole set or just one number? Naively, you might think that a single number is simpler, but the entire set can be generated by quite a trivial computer program, whereas a single number can be hugely long. Therefore, the whole set is actually simpler ... (Similarly), the higher-level multiverses are simpler. Going from our universe to the Level I multiverse eliminates the need to specify initial conditions, upgrading to Level II eliminates the need to specify physical constants, and the Level IV multiverse eliminates the need to specify anything at all ... A common feature of all four multiverse levels is that the simplest and arguably most elegant theory involves parallel universes by default. To deny the existence of those universes, one needs to complicate the theory by adding experimentally unsupported processes and ad hoc postulates: finite space, wave function collapse and ontological asymmetry. Our judgment therefore comes down to which we find more wasteful and inelegant: many worlds or many words. Perhaps we will gradually get used to the weird ways of our cosmos and find its strangeness to be part of its charm.

— Max Tegmark, "Parallel universes. Not just a staple of science fiction, other universes are a direct implication of cosmological observations." Scientific American 2003 May


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Post by GSB/SSR on Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:40 am

I should add that even in Jack's post-quantum Bohmian theory there are an infinite number of universes at Level I and II. Jack argues against Level III (quantum parallel universes) and is agnostic on Level IV.

However, as Tegmark has argued, eliminating Level III changes nothing: There are still an infinite number of parallel worlds "out there" among the bubble universes that are popping up.

Seems your CTCotS will have a lot more threading to do. But wait! You have an infinite amount of time for the CTCotS to go 'round!


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