UFOs, Extraterrestrial Contact, Conspiracy, Exopolitics, Geopolitics, Paranormal, Crypto-zoology, Ancient History, Cutting-Edge Science & Special Guests.

Latest topics

» Disclosure - For U by U
Today at 12:01 pm by The Keeper Of The Laws

» Immaterialism 2
Today at 12:00 pm by smelly

» Grant Cameron, Foot Mann and Dan Smith
Today at 8:37 am by GrandCru

» Montage grokking
Yesterday at 2:29 pm by mion

» Redfern's Roswell Fantasy
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:26 pm by dan

» The Loch Ness Monster
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:51 pm by Alchemical Coincidence

» Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:27 pm by cwallatruth

» Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:45 pm by spacemaverick

» Sunspot Observatory Shut Down Updates
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:40 pm by 99

Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:29 am by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





MMR Twitter News

October 2018

SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
 123456
78910111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
28293031   

Calendar Calendar


Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Share
avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:41 am

2:40pm EST

White Smoke 30 min ago.... Watching it live... awaiting the New Pope to walk out on the balcony. Vatican Guards and Italian Naval Soldiers marching on the steps of St.Peters Basilica, to the music of the Marching Band.




--------------------------

edit notice: This thread is the Part Two continuation from the original thread - last post here -

http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t6p990-hello-cy-hello-omf-ii#2215




Last edited by Jake Reason on Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:59 pm; edited 3 times in total
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 4067
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:21 pm

Yes....... We have a Pope.

God bless, God save the Pope.....!!!

avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:22 pm

Jesuit, Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina

is now...

Pope Francis

Awaiting him to come out on the balcony

Oh! He's there now.

avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:50 pm

I spent two days in Assisi. It was the most preserved medieval town I've had the pleasure of visiting.

Pope Francis... what a surprise!

A Jesuit Franciscan? A thousand words come to mind.

His closing comments;
"Tomorrow I will pray to Mary to watch over all of Rome."

Petrus Romanus? I don't know...it's not working for me.

I need a glass of wine.

Cheers!


avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 4067
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:53 pm

From: Dan Smith 
Date: March 13, 2013 2:50:39 PM CDT
To: Larry 
Cc: Ron 
Subject: Re: A brand new, beautiful day......

(cont........2).

So, yes, Larry, I am as open as I can humanly be to the very possible fact that I have met my intellectual and spiritual better.  

Last night I indicated that there might be a distinction between the message and the messenger.  I claimed to be more comforting than Chris.  That claim may be false.  

Larry...... I anxiously await further input as to what, if any, might be my role, going forward.  

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Dan Smith wrote:

(cont.....)

I desperately need cogent feedback wrt my treatment of others.  Please, help Ron and me to understand how I managed to mistreat Chris, and I'm not disputing that I may have done that.

I will totally acknowledge that there is a control issue.  I have been laboring under the impression that I should remain open to the possibility that I might be the Spirit of Truth.  

I did gather that Chris has been laboring under the assumption that this responsibility had already been granted to him, by God.  I certainly do not know otherwise.  Nonetheless, Larry, neither Ron nor God has instructed me to roll over and play dead.  

The two hours of video on which Chris and I collaborated, yesterday afternoon, was the most intense and satisfying two hours that I have spent, in my 69 years.  

That fact may very well indicate that Chris Langan is, indeed, the Holy Spirit.  If I am not fully prepared to accept that as being the judgment of God, then I am not being honest to God.


(cont.......2)


On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Dan Smith > wrote:

Larry,

1.)  How could it possibly occur to you that I might not need you?  You are still the very best thing that has ever happened to me, since I met Debbie, and that does include present Company.  That does mean you, Ron!  

2.)  Very likely you could be the most sane person I have ever met, and that definitely includes Ron, who keeps insisting that he is an alien and/or married to one!  

3.)  It is not at all implausible that my continued existence on the Earth is due largely to the continued vigilance of Ron.  Should we suppose that Ron would encourage me to fraternize with a security risk?   He might well do that, but that would be between him and God.  If God allows Ron to steer me into my perdition, then praise the Lord.  His wish is my command!  


(And, for the record, I am now on my second Bud-light.  Of course, all of my communications are  available to be shared, at your discretion, Larry.)   


(cont.....)


On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Dan Smith  wrote:

Jack,

I am still checked in, on the original flight to SF, thanks to Larry.  Unfortunately, it appears that Larry has headed back to Philadelphia.  

Clearly, there are some serious communications issues, which I will now be trying to straighten out.........

Dan


avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:06 pm

Thanks Dan,

It looks like I hit the nail-on-the-head;
http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t6p990-hello-cy-hello-omf-ii#2215

So you are throwing out the whole kahunas on first sitting? Sigh (shaking head)...My goodness, Dan.

Why are so hell bent on failing?


avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 4067
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:14 pm

Jake,

Time is wasting........ Hurry, Lord........


www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FsVeMz1F5c


Mur
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 43
Join date : 2012-06-22

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Mur on Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:08 pm

Jake Reason wrote:Petrus Romanus? I don't know...it's not working for me.


Cheers!




of Italian descent I'm being told
avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:40 pm

Mur wrote:
of Italian descent I'm being told
Yes Mur, I learned that from the Wiki article. Mother and Father - purebred Italian. But born in Argentina.

1st Jesuit Pope, is a significant item of importance. The so-called "Black Popes" are often the head of the Jesuit Order. = Vatican Intel.

Also significant - the symbolism of his closing public address, saying he will pray to Mother Mary to watch over all of Rome.

Surely all Protestants noticed that! There is no Mary worship in the Bible. Hmmm, quite sure Pope Francis knows this. Which gives cause for concern.

But is he Petrus Romanus? I'm not seeing that yet. Could be an "in-between". An AC facilitator perhaps? Well it is strange that the so-called 'Holy-Father' would choose not to pray to the 'Heavenly Father'.

Also consider, Benedict is still a Pope! Emeritus, yes. Yet remains a Living Pope, with Papal abode and Papal servants. There is quite a lot of chatter over this most unusual situation.

We shall see what we shall see



Last edited by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:56 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 586
Join date : 2012-03-15
Location : West Rising

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Admin on Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:04 pm

Argentina is where the Nazis went after WWII...hmmmm what is the relationship between the Nazi International and the Jesuits?

And they the first to chase Sirius and electromagnetic propulsion in our modern age...

Anyone read Tom Horn's comment to Steve Quayle?

TOM HORNS RESPONSE TO THE NEW POPE--HE FULFILLS THE PROPHECY
Steve

I'll be back on Monday then gone all week after that. But check this out:

He absolutely NAILED the prophecy! Jorge Mario Bergoglio is Italian (Roman) and a Jesuit. This is a VERY important aspect of our prediction in our book because we said the name "Petrus Romanus" from the prophecy "implies this pope will reaffirm the authority of the Roman Pontiff over the Church and will emphasize the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Faith and the Roman Catholic Church above all other religions and denominations, and its authority over all Christians and all peoples of the world" (Petrus Romanus pgs 437-438)
Concerning the Jesuits, their order was organized "to stop Protestantism from spreading and to preserve communion with Rome and the successor of Peter..." (wikipedia)

Also note this from Wikipedia:

The 35th General Congregation of the Society of Jesus convened on 5 January 2008 and elected Fr. Adolfo Nicolás as the new Superior General on 19 January 2008. A month after, the Pope (Benedict) received members of the General Congregation and urged them to "to continue on the path of this mission in full fidelity to your original charism" and asked them to reflect so as "to rediscover the fullest meaning of your characteristic 'fourth vow' of obedience to the Successor of Peter." For this, he told them to "adhere totally to the Word of God and to the Magisterium's task of preserving the integral truth and unity of Catholic doctrine." This clear identity, according to the Pope, is important so that "many others may share in your ideals and join you effectively and enthusiastically." The Congregation responded with a formal declaration titled "With New Fervor and Dynamism, the Society of Jesus Responds to the Call of Benedict XVI", whereby they confirmed the Society's fidelity to the Pope.

Of course the 'fourth vow' is a blood oath according to some ex-catholics (http://www.redicecreations. com/specialreports/2006/04apr/ jesuitbloodoath.html)

As a Jesuit, Bergoglio makes the perfect Pope to fulfill our second book's Chardinian Jesuit predictions who argue in favor of a coming an alien savior.

Also note this Pope was elected on 3-13-13 at 8:13 (phenomenally occult numerology) Vatican time while the Pan-SARRS

Mar 13, 2013




_________________
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:09 pm

Thanks Cy,

I think Tom Horn is jumping-the-gun....premature.
Overly enthusiastic Book promotion, perhaps?

However 3-13-13-8:13 is interesting. It would take sophisticated orchestration to coordinate that.

There was a famous Latin America Jesuit Priest who blew his mighty horn a generation ago. Most will have forgotten him. I suspect his extensive testimony will arise again.

Is Francis the last Pope? Well I know Dan wishes so.

I don't know.

-----------------

It's after midnight here now, and the sun is soon to rise over Italy. So the new Pope will don his Royal Robes and adornments, and solemnly pray to Mary as he said he would.

Then it will up to the Heavenly Father to decide what to do about that.



avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 4067
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:27 am

Made it to SF on Larry's ticket. He, chris and I are still communicating, sort of.

I'm still hell-bent on a road trip, with a plane. That way no one gets thrown under the bus. We just supply free parachutes.

Jack, Kim and I are supposed to spend the day editing the six hours of tape, from last October. Then we can start new recordings.


(cont.)

avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:44 am

Jack and Chris, would provide a more productive discussion.

While CL visits a comfortable lounge, blocks away.

avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 4067
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:04 am

Jake,

I tried to get Chris out here, but he won't budge, and, when he budges, he won't talk.

We recorded 2+ hours on tuesday, as I already said in the email.

Jack is up now. Kim now wants to spend two days editing, while I'm pushing to move the conversation forward.

While Larry was recording in KC, Gina was taking pictures of the whiteboard to send to Ron, per his request.

Pope Francis is probably the best we could have hoped for.

I should mention that, when Ron woke me up at 8am on Tues, he asked if I'd seen any cows yet. I said no. When we got to the office for recording, we were greeted by a life-size Nascow...... hard to miss.

Jack is here now........



(cont.)

avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:53 am

Yes, yes, but you didn't suggest you remove yourself from the conversation, did you?

PR is not one of your best talents.

It seems more apparent that it is you who does not understand the stakes. Your ego is preventing progress, Dan.

It is CTMU that needs the opportunity of review. Not you.

I posted you a link to Chris Langan's site a few years ago. You didn't think it important then. Now you do... good. So what is more important now? You being chief orchestrator? or Jack and Chris having a discussion?

Jack is probably the most uniquely suited theoretical physicist in the world for Chris to talk with. There would be a mutual respect that Chris would find hard to find.

Does Chris know this, Dan? Does he know who Jack is?, His work? I would think that if he did, he would jump at the opportunity to enjoy a discussion with Jack?

But the Cow?.... seems to me that R@D spooked him. And I can't blame him.

Planning a road-trip before you get to the first howdy-do?

If you think you might have met your Waterloo. Then you have an obligation....



avatar
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 586
Join date : 2012-03-15
Location : West Rising

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Admin on Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:07 am

Jake Reason wrote:Thanks Cy,

I think Tom Horn is jumping-the-gun....premature.
Overly enthusiastic Book promotion, perhaps?

However 3-13-13-8:13 is interesting. It would take sophisticated orchestration to coordinate that.

There was a famous Latin America Jesuit Priest who blew his mighty horn a generation ago. Most will have forgotten him. I suspect his extensive testimony will arise again.

Is Francis the last Pope? Well I know Dan wishes so.

I don't know.

-----------------

It's after midnight here now, and the sun is soon to rise over Italy. So the new Pope will don his Royal Robes and adornments, and solemnly pray to Mary as he said he would.

Then it will up to the Heavenly Father to decide what to do about that.






Actually I think you may have missed the most interesting part of his comment...the part about "alien savior".

Cy


_________________
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:42 pm

Admin wrote:
Actually I think you may have missed the most interesting part of his comment...the part about "alien savior".

Cy
Yes, I noticed that.
After years of researching and discussions concerning the prospect of an Alien or Hybrid masquerading as a Saviour on Earth, I have discarded it. It does not fit Biblical prophecy either. I understand all the theological positions of the 'Tom Horn's' of Christianity. They have their purpose. They try to do a good work. But they are mistaken, about a great many things. When I can get around to it, I will write a book to address this Alien AC concept, and many other mistaken Christian theories concerning Contact. And I will collaborate with the world's best before publishing. If Contact happens before I have the time to produce and publish, then I will go straight to Public Speaking.


avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:59 pm

Dan,

I feel that I should perhaps apologize for my lecture to you on the forum. I did think of calling you instead, but also felt it should be said aloud for all concerned to read.

An extraordinary opportunity has arisen. And your coordinative zeal is worthy. However you are erring through your haste. Slow down. Intelligent men of experience employ prudence. Wisdom compels them. Diplomacy is in order.


On the road..cell# in your PM box


Last edited by Jake Reason on Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
Admin
Admin
Admin

Posts : 586
Join date : 2012-03-15
Location : West Rising

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Admin on Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:22 pm

@ Jake, I suppose it raises an eyebrow with me to hear someone make "alien savior" comments. I don't think ETs/UTs would play games like that, although I could be wrong. My biggest concern is that people would look at them in those terms rather than standing on their own feet.


_________________
"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
avatar
Jake Reason
Admin
Admin

Posts : 1008
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Canada

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Jake Reason on Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:31 pm

Admin wrote:My biggest concern is that people would look at them in those terms rather than standing on their own feet.
We are on the same page. wink
avatar
Bard
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 588
Join date : 2012-04-29

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Bard on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:11 am

Admin wrote: @ Jake, I suppose it raises an eyebrow with me to hear someone make "alien savior" comments I don't think ETs/UTs would play games like that, although I could be wrong. My biggest concern is that people would look at them in those terms rather than standing on their own feet.

I agree.........

I would only add that there is a potential emmensity of self motivation for mankind to gaze inward so deep - it may change how we see out into the world around us.

Knowledge via awakenings is profound - whereas knowledge behind blind retards any specific growth we may have acheived.


_________________
"It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves."
William Shakespeare
avatar
Nib
Full Member
Full Member

Posts : 65
Join date : 2012-10-24

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Nib on Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:54 pm

MD02 wrote:
I would only add that there is a potential immensity of self motivation for mankind to gaze inward so deep - it may change how we see out into the world around us.

Knowledge via awakenings is profound - whereas knowledge behind blind retards any specific growth we may have acheived.

It's all about time MeeaNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN..





lol







avatar
Bard
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 588
Join date : 2012-04-29

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Bard on Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:46 am

Lost me......nib...
Mean???


_________________
"It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves."
William Shakespeare
avatar
dan
Special Guest
Special Guest

Posts : 4067
Join date : 2012-04-25
Location : Baltimore

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by dan on Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:27 am

I'm still here, in SF.

I will have more to say, later........

avatar
Bard
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 588
Join date : 2012-04-29

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Bard on Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:17 am

Someone has been busy, it seems.

Hopefully, productive.

Safe travels.....


_________________
"It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves."
William Shakespeare

Sponsored content

Re: Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

Post by Sponsored content


    Current date/time is Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:08 pm