Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

GSB/SSR wrote:Dan,

Re: Ron and CIA Publications Review Board protocols on publication by present and former CIA employees

The key protocol here is Reviews Are Not Optional

And so, in consideration of Ron Pandolfi's writing (e-mail) now published at this forum, consider the following:

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v41i3a01p.htm

The daily "take" logged in by the five-person PRB staff ranges from 1,000-page book manuscripts to one-page letters to the editor. There are speeches, journal articles, theses and op-eds, book reviews, and movie scripts. There are scholarly treatises, works of fiction, and, recently, a cookbook featuring a collection of recipes acquired and served by Agency officers and spouses around the world. Perhaps the most novel review (no pun intended) involved an interactive CD-ROM video spy game co-authored by former Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) William Colby and KGB Gen. Oleg Kalugin.

The reason all this writing is reviewed lies in the Agency's need--and its employees' contractual obligation--to protect sources and methods of collection and analysis.

The courts have ruled, in effect, that prepublication review is the only way to carry out the DCI's statutory mandate consistent with the First Amendment. In addition, prepublication review is essential if the Agency is to uphold the validity of the secrecy agreement CIA staff employees and contractors sign as a condition of employment.

Nor is it optional for the individuals who sign a secrecy agreement to seek the review. It is specifically required to protect the sources and methods of collection and analysis they will learn about and which, if revealed, could cost heavily in lives, resources, and continued access to critical national security information.

The review requirement is spelled out clearly in the secrecy agreement, in which the signer agrees to submit for review any material "I contemplate disclosing publicly or that I have actually prepared for public disclosure, either during my employment...or at any time thereafter, prior to discussing it or showing it to anyone who is not authorized to have access.... I further agree that I will not take any steps toward public disclosure until I have received written permission to do so from the Central Intelligence Agency."

The silence from the CIA PRB to my request (concerning Ron) for clarification roars in response.

FAS published a redacted version of the PRB handbook:

https://www.fas.org/irp/cia/prb-handbook.pdf

From: Ron
Date: December 10, 2013, 4:13:59 PM EST
To: Dan
Subject: Please post the following account by Princess Aliyah

At 2 pm on Wednesday November 20th I approached the crime scene. I had been holding a meeting of the Leadership Team at the security headquarters in Kruger when the call came in that a Rhino had been killed. Rangers, veterinarians and police were being called to the crime scene, and I was asked to go along. I was about to witness an Autopsy.

As our vehicle approached, I felt a sense of realism and rage. We were in Kruger National Park to learn how we could help stop poaching, but until now poaching has been something rather abstract. Now it was real. Rhino Kino lay dead in front of me. Yesterday he was one of the few remaining rhinos in Kruger, enjoying life with his family and friends. Last night he was shot by a poacher, a high caliper round shattering the bone in his leg. Kino fought the pain stumbling through the bush to evade the poachers. He was discovered in the morning by rangers who had responded to the gun shot. Veterinarians were called in, but the damage was too extreme. Kino had collapsed to the floor. Kino was in pain and waiting for death.

Veterinarians were gathered around Kino. There were excited because a fresh rhino carcass was very rare. The Head Vet explained that he had to put Kino down at 10 am. Now they needed to extract the bullet to send off to the crime lab. They also were going to use the opportunity to determine the health of Kino before his death, testing for various rhino diseases that might have entered Kruger.

I jumped out of the vehicle to the sight of a majestic creature sleeping forever. Earlier that morning I had heard about how difficult life was for people across the border in Mozambique. It was a story that was intended to evoke sympathy for poachers in search of a better life. Seeing Kino clarified the reality that poachers are members criminal networks, engaged in trafficking wildlife, humans, narcotics, weapons, and whatever else the network finds profitable. They are driving Mercedes while the millions of poor around them are starving. I felt shivers down my spine and realized how brutal these poachers are. I wanted to be in the field, tracking down the poachers who had shot Kino the night before intending to hack off his horn for profit.

A moment of silence for Kino made me realize the world is now working together on finding a solution through the Wildlife Conservation UAV Challenge. I am not alone in my love and passion for the freedom of wildlife. We have nearly 100 Teams in over 20 countries and 6 continents in less than 2 months committed to fighting for wildlife and justice. Together we can win this war!

Thank you wcUAVc Leadership, Teams, Sponsors, Supporters, Volunteers and all those who wake up to make a positive difference each and everyday.

A special thanks for the wcUAVc Team that joined me on this journey - Scott LB Williams of Reserve Protection Agency, Casper van Zyl of Global Unmanned Systems, Larry Wirsing & John Glezellis of Aurora Flight Sciences, and Justin Leto of Nova Labs and my daughter Kashmir Rose the youngest counter poacher Safari Kid in the world of Kashmir Robotics!

dan wrote:Jake,

Ron used your sympatico address, and it was bounced back.  Is your zoho address your current one?  

Your basic misunderstanding here, Jake, is to confuse drone with predator.  The WCUAVC is specifically for surveilance.

However, as the Princess migrates her operation to other, more remote venues, it could conceivably become necessary to weaponize the drones.  But I doubt that this would be done on the sly, and clearly it would mandate a high level of authorization.  We'll just have to stay tuned.  

From: Dan Smith
Date: December 11, 2013, 10:38:22 AM EST
To: Princess Aliyah
Cc: Ron, Jack, Bill, Paul, David, Dick

Subject: Fwd: Leopards on the Prowl -- Dan Smith, Maniac or Mesiah

Princess,

When I spoke with you, a few minutes ago, I had forgotten about this exchange.  Yes, Jack's contribution could fit in with the MorM theme, Jack being the Maniac, of course.  Maybe we could give Jack a 2' slot, which he would try to stretch into 20'.  

I'm thinking that you and I could start in the present, and then proceed with flashbacks to our early years.  I particularly like your encounter with your 'fortune-telling grandfather' at age three.  Understanding that, for poor little me, most of my spiritual experience has turned out to be vicarious.  

But, no, I am warming a bit to Jack's participation.  He would be sure to enliven the show, and with you and me together at this end, we could maybe keep him on a shorter leash, this time around.  Isn't that right, Jack?  

In some ways, Jack's early years provide a complement to mine.  There was the passing of the (maniac?) baton, with my encounter with his 'comic-book', ST&B, in 1975.  


Dan


Begin forwarded message:

From: JACK SARFATTI
Date: December 10, 2013, 7:23:34 PM EST
To: Ronald
Cc: Dan, Bill
Subject: Re: Leopards on the Prowl -- Dan Smith, Maniac or Mesiah

Messiah two s’s.

Dan can be both simultaneously - like Schrodinger’s Cat - a giant Qubit.


On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:22 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

;-) depends when exactly
pretty busy writing Stargate book & it’s holiday season - Angela is big on British Xmas & I have a lot of things to do with her till Xmas Day.

On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Ronald wrote:

Hi Jack,

The next episode of Leopards on the Prowl will review Dan's life up until the time when he reads your book and terminates advanced study of Physics.  Would you like to be a guest on the show?

Ron

From: Dan Smith
Date: December 11, 2013, 1:13:35 PM EST
To: Dick
Cc: nine others.........
Subject: Re: Leopards on the Prowl -- Dan Smith, Maniac or Mesiah

Dick,

Oh, dear, did I put you on the cc? A Freudian slip..... Please accept my apologies.



On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Dick (CloudRider) wrote:

There's a relevant update for Jack at the end of this... "Eight ball in the corner pocket, Captain Jack."

You can do "wolf pack radio" all day long but if you get interviewed by Ralph Blumenthal, you're famouser.

Dan is a Golem? Jacob Sarfatti, Rabbi to the Cosmos, can explain all of this to all of us, I have no doubt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem

With all due respect, guys (and gal ;-)... and the point of including me in this Narcississtic fantasy is....?

As do so many others who've expressed similar sentiments... I find this sidebar, well, ....zzzzzzz. But...

Personally, if you're going to do a radio show about Dan and how his once-ordered "physicist-in-training" mind was disheveled upon reading Jack's book (actually, I also read that book... but not being a wannabe physicist scion of anal retentive Eisenhower economics officials, gray flannel plutocrat or "fortune teller," ... Hey, I'm just simple country reporter chasing down crime and slime stories about faux "ETs" ;-... I found Jack's book interesting and, upon running across him online in the mid1990s, certainly noteworthy). Alas.

After "Forrest Gumping" into the Human Potential Foundation's little foray into the Clinton White House, and running across Ron at the Psychocorrection symposium we did (when he tagged along with Kit or vice versa) and later on the other side of the "Rockefeller UFO Disclosure Initiative" when Ron got in over his head with Jack Gibbons' shop, such that Bootsie had to come out of retirement and help save Laurance from himself... and later on with the "Put a tiger in your poacher..." op in the Russian Far East, well... nothing surprises me.

And well, the "rest of the story" is boring, having lived it, and now we're looking at what comes next, now that John Podesta... he of "UFO/ET disclosure" initiative with the Sci-Fi Channel, Leslie Kean, et al.,... is moving back into the White House to help rescue B. Hussein Obama-bin-Lyin', as his critics call our President, get out of his political pickle barrel. You can bet that Steve Bassett and his backers are taking notice, so those folks who now "have the con" (pun and double entendre' intended ;-) of keeping UFOs secret and baffling are advised to go "wheels up" and get your saucers soaring again. Haven't had many "abductions" lately, either.

The up side of Dan's meandering "beyond the fringe" and back again, where he bumps into Ron's mirrors (as in "Wilderness of ______"), is that he's in his own way another "Forrest Gump" character, as indeed are all of us who wander in these provinces.

Remember, as Tolkien wrote: "Not all who wander are lost."

Indeed, square dancing with Kashmiri princesses, spooky scientists and clandestine nobodies who indeed are somebodies, makes for a classic Spider Robinson tale, or even one of the aforementioned Tolkien's. In the latter case, who is Dan... and indeed, who are we all? Is Dan a "Golem?" Are "The Grays" golems, too?

How do the djin of Islam compare to Greer's, Bassett's and Bruce Maccabee's "ETs?" Are these what the fundamentalist Christians believe are the "End Times" (again!) or but a "Collins Elite" political deception.

Speaking of snow leopards... of course you know it is the "National Predator" of Pakistan? Random tidbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_leopard

Into this miasma, Ron is launching "conservation drones" to patrol the Kashmiri skies, targeting evil doers who seek to poach snow leopards... which reminds me of a rather low caliber movie another wag mentioned.

Perhaps it's the inspiration for this gig?

It's rumored to be called "Search for the Snow Leopard," and it starred a brilliant woman and actress named Asia Carrera. I've not seen the film... not really my cup of tea... but perhaps Dan can hunt it down and give us all a review of whether there is any resemblance to the drama unfolding along the frontiers of Kashmir?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Carrera

Until then, Dan. No need to keep me so closely posted about your outpatient treatment and adventures.

;-)

DF

PS -- Princess Aliyah ought to invite journalist Joby Warrick to cover your Snow Leopard drone initiative.

No doubt Ron knows Joby, who is a "good guy." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joby_Warrick

Joby has some experience covering "clandestine" cover ops, especially those which go awry.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/16/entertainment/la-et-book-joby-warrick-20110716 (The Triple Agent)

Indeed, if something screws up with what y'all are up to, no doubt it'll be Joby who'll cover the story.

Might as well get him up to speed and in the loop (with apologies to Dan: No, Danny, I didn't mean you).

Of course, if you're REALLY serious (and this applies to Jack, as well), the may to bring into your gig is Ralph Blumenthal, of the New York Times. Ralph did the Vanity Fair piece about John Mack in May 2013.

http://johnemackinstitute.org/2013/05/vanity-fair-feature-article-about-harvards-dr-john-mack/

Note Leslie Kean's comment quoted at this (above) site. Leslie is John Podesta's former UFO/ET colleague.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/americans-alien-abduction-science

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skaizlimit wrote:Now back to the flack I got from Jake.  Jake, in that you hastily labeled me a KKK dude, let me assume that you've never actually met a real KKK member.

I've met one, knew him for twenty years.  His mother was a native american street walker.  He lived his high school years in the home of Tom and John Metzger.  He was a life long extreme alcoholic, who I watched down an entire fifth of vodka in a half hour.  He was a Jehovah Witness.  He was involved in the on air TV brawl on the Jeraldo show c. 1992 where Jeraldo suffered a broken nose from a chair tossed through the air.  This character died before age 40.  He also had attended a youth training camp for KKK and Aryan Brotherhood, and claims to have deflowered the daughter of a well known Klan leader.  He was a tenant which is how I knew him, and why I watched the Brian Lamb video series on the Tom and John Metzger trial in Oregon in which both were convicted of murder by pamphlet.  That trial video shows Tom Metzger as some sort of demoniac outta some kind of terror movie.  This is my knowledge of the KKK, in which I've never had any involvement.

.........let me make it clear that I respect individuals according to their character, not according to their ideologies.  What I see is a mix of Mandela and the Marxist ideology that is being pumped up at present, and thus I choose to have no part in it because of the ideology and not because of the man.

My ancestors broke away from a tyrannical govt system also, although it was not a racial issue.  Man everywhere is called to rise from slavery.  Mandela deployed the only means available, which sadly was a Marxist ideology.

Leaders of other beliefs that I see as better for mankind have been failing in big ways leaving us all often leaving us to choose the lesser evils to survive.

skaizlimit wrote:Yes, question:  Metaphysics seems to deal little or not at all with the senses of touch and smell.  How would infinite touch or infinite smell be discussed?

GSB/SSR wrote:Ron Pandolfi is being disingenuous regarding Dan's oft-repeated claim of a connection between their friendship and Ron's day job (presumably somewhere in the world of U.S. intelligence).

As evidence, consider Dan provided (at his original blog) information about government interest in the high-frequency gravity wave project between American researchers and their associates in China. One might argue this was "open" as the original report (published one year after Dan revealed the spy games being played around the persons of interest involved) was For Official Use Only. However, the same report also notes a "classified portion" of Pandolfi's government report (identified with MITRE and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence).

https://www.fas.org/irp/agency/dod/jason/gravwaves.pdf

All the above is so far from known published government protocols as to be laughable, if not for Ron's identification with the ODNI. One might then ask what protocol allows this unique form of "leaking" information using Dan as "useful" publisher.

GSB/SSR wrote:Dan,

Re: Ron and CIA Publications Review Board protocols on publication by present and former CIA employees

The key protocol here is Reviews Are Not Optional

And so, in consideration of Ron Pandolfi's writing (e-mail) now published at this forum, consider the following:

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v41i3a01p.htm

dan wrote:Skai,  

Are you asking if heaven has been weaponized......?  

Typically, angels and demons eschew firepower.  However, there are rumors of a fatal altercation at the Skinwalker ranch.  

Some of my fellow evangelicals are anticipating an Armageddon, wherein God is expected to contribute to the general mayhem.  Looking at Creation, it does appear to be red in tooth and claw, without any great distress being registered from on high.  

From: Ron
Date: December 10, 2013, 4:13:59 PM EST
To: Dan
Subject: Please post the following account by Princess Aliyah

From: Dan Smith
Date: December 12, 2013, 9:58:44 AM EST
To: Princess Aliyah
Cc: Ronald and Bill L.  
Subject: Re: Maniac and/or Messiah

Princess,

Ultimately it is up to you, but I am inclined to forge ahead, with or without Jack.  At this point, you and I owe nothing to Jack.  

Yours and my timelines first need to be motivated, which is what we would do first, if you are willing to go ahead with the show on Tuesday.  After that introduction, which could take most of the show, we could do flashbacks to our hearts' content.  

The situation is that no one can help us or hold our hands, other than God/Sophia, herself.  Them that knows can't talk, and them that can talk don't know.  

Call me at your convenience.  We do need to have our ground-rules and other parameters, in place.  

Dan


On Dec 11, 2013, at 9:46 PM, JACK SARFATTI wrote:

right - but remember I'm too busy until Jan 5 or so.

On Dec 11, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Ronald Pandolfi wrote:

Dan,

In preparation for the show, please only cc those who are directly involved.  Leave off the list the usual loons, crooks, and worse.

Jack is essential to the show.  He delivers the key element that corresponds with your transition from physics to metaphysics, and he does it while moving himself closer to real physics and real answers to outstanding problems.

How Jack's book effects different people in different ways is a key element of understanding the Maniac and/or Messiah debate.  It focuses on the process by which bright people separate their thinking from mainstream, and then forge in new directions.  It gets a bit closer than we have yet in explaining we tolerate your insanity.  Your separation from mainstream is what makes your views interesting, and it is what defines you as insane.

V/r,

Ron