Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

dan wrote:Cyrellys,

The main difference between us is that you think that we are guinea pigs in a cosmic experiment..... playthings of the gods.  

Your words Dan not mine.  There is so much you get wrong that I often wonder about the rest.  I speak only where I know different.  You know that.  I still remember the man who sent Murnut to disrupt the UN Meeting Thread.  Did you forget?  What importance is choice of nature?  It colors everything.

I don’t know who your God is, but it is not the Mother of Jesus.  

I answer to Source and Source alone!  Not Jesu's mother.  I see you taking great liberties with Jesu's teachings and steerage...just as the Council on Foreign Relations takes great liberties with the Constitutional Republic, Source's CREATION for an alternative to ILLUMINATI.  Illuminati cannot share this world,
they seemingly must own and corrupt all to suit themselves...that is why we are now at global war.

If Jesus only got one thing right, he figured out that we were the apple of God’s eye.  If you can’t bring yourself to believe this, I feel very sorry for you, Cy.  

He didn't 'figure that out' Dan.  He was sent to inform us of that; enlighten humanity who was in despair under corruption and failing to fight against it.  He showed how to fight.
 How to apply self without bringing the whole world down around you.  Dan you cherry pick his teachings.  That is not my concern...Jesu can hold his own...his wisdom can stand without I or anyone else holding that wisdom up.  What I point out is where what I see rears up beyond those teachings into realms that I suspect might astonish even him, or perhaps not, perhaps he would shake his head and say "I thought we already went over this road"

Do you really believe, Cy, that you are a better parent than God?  I don’t where you got that idea, Cy, but it is a wrongheaded idea.

Again Dan, this is YOU SPEAKING not I.  You have a funny habit of putting words into the mouths of others.  It's a very bad habit.  Why do you do this?  Because it works to cover where you CHOOSE not to listen?  Is CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM so terrible you cannot respectfully address it or adjust your positions?

 This false notion of God may have come down to you through generations of your family.  Were all of them mistaken?  If you ever learn that the truth could be otherwise, will you ever be able to forgive them?  

Some things are too terrible to entirely forgive Dan.
 Have you no limits?  No boundaries?  It is not unreasonable to expect a certain measure of common values is our world...I don't see those values reflected in the Illumines or their Globalist proxies.
 Explain to me Dan how the things I listed as problematic as falling within our common values?

Much hangs in that balance, Cy.  Don’t think I don’t know.  

Good I'm glad you know.  I think what we have here is a difference of opinion about what Source is doing and what it is dissatisfied about.  You're huge on Jesu's Mother as YOUR 'god' but you totally disregard Source which is simply amazing to my perspective.  As a pelagian-type Celt knowing Source respects free will, you're free to do so...but I also understand the deep roots of the Female preference.  

Dan if you respect Jesu then you must remember him saying,
"For the Father is greater than I."  (John 14:28)  

Do you not know, Cy, that God has counted every hair on the head of every one of your children?  Can you not believe it?  Can you not believe that the Source is much closer to you than the nose on your face?  

Still not Listening Dan?  What is the Apprentice to Synchronicity?  What is Synchronicity but the hand of God/Source operating within our experiential landscape?

You call Jesu's Mother God then think to berate the Apprentice for not knowing Source?  When knowing Source directly is what the Apprentice is trained and directed to do?  Who has a dog in this particular hunt?  I'm not the one attempting to create the NWO RELIGION OF MAN AND MIND.  

I am only a humble witness instructed to speak truth to power where directed or intuitively inclined.

Your NWO RELIGION HOLDS NO REGARD FOR LIFE & LIBERTY...two of Source's most treasured human pathways.  Academia and Academic innovation is not a license to disregard either of those.

What of some of the ancient Christian Scholars like the Essenes?  The Essenes believed deeply in a Teacher of Righteousness...

Humans are judged by Source based on their demonstrated unconcern.  Jesu taught that by living example.

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dan wrote:I apologize, Cy, for having said anything offensive to you.  That was not my intention.  My intention always, however, is to be provocative with what I deem to be the truth.  

That is fair enough to say.  But please before assuming what I think or believe -- ASK.  Do not assume.  I am at liberty to answer direct questions, not to go off and write a philosophical book.  As I have informed Ackbar who DID ask, my presence at OMF did not/does not involve direct tasking here with you.  This is your sandbox...within reason.

The problem I’m having is that I don’t know what your truth is.  I understand that you oppose torture, especially of children.  So do I.  But I’m not quite sure what you are proposing to do about it.  

That much is obvious.  I've always been very specific in order to illustrate this, but I think that my posts were frequently read with hurried irritation rather than actually read carefully with an eye to see the meanings and imports.  What is banais righi; Sovereignty?(<---link)

I can understand the armed insurrection of slaves in a slave camp.  I don’t know that we are at that point, yet.  We may be, but that fact is still open to discussion, in my opinion.  

Ah but it is to no slave you speak with Dan!  What pray tell has been awakened in this land the Illumined THOUGHT they knew?  Here your assumptions color ground around your feet in application of deliberate manipulation or creationary intent?  This land is not a collection of slaves for Illumined harvesting, and it comes with more ancient elements as Guardians.

He said "how do you know these things?  You know you're not supposed to."  I chuckled and reminded him gently, "...there are somethings in this world far older than even the Illumined."  The young one, startled, bowed and stepped back.  

My words strike deep chords to which you react as if I scream but all I've done so far is whisper into the wind.  You nor anyone else has yet entertained a taste of true roar.  This is why someone such as myself rarely walks among man, and when we do we strive to step softly for our Voice is our weapon.

As for those who could be counted as unwitting slaves, yes the world is indeed at that point.  Brought on by the disturbance over-laid upon a construct that did not belong to those who built atop the surface deconstructing what was built without invitation.  The disturbance and havoc; this mess that has been created is both affront and threat to the original intent...IT is an interruption in the fabric and brings the attention of the many colored ones like myself.  

I wouldn't take the time to speak with you Dan if I did not care for all who live within its folds.  I could just as easily take the course of ancient Morrigu and simply step out into the landscape to erase what has been done...but like making a bed in your home, those who fomented chaos must be among those to repair it or nothing is learned.  Does this help you better assess where I stand and why I speak?  If I see you in some way (minor or major) involved in the fomentation of this chaos of the Illumined to some degree then I hold you responsible for being a part of the repair at the very least in word if not entirely in deed.

I would very much like for you and me to have a thoughtful discussion of these points.  

That is what we have been doing from time to time here Dan.  You have never suffered real harm at my hand even when I have stepped into the fray for a stated point or purpose.

Your frame of references and mine differ.  Mine encompass every little bit of conscious awareness to be heard in the landscape including fore and aft.  This includes every point of light which is every individual and ever burst of energy which is events. You choose to be more focused for your own purposes.

Often, though, it feels as if you are throwing screaming headlines at me.  

This is reaction to the lightest touch of Roar; the flat of the sword Dan.  If you had been listening in proper context the previous instances I spoke with you, you'd have noticed it was to the interconnected details I spoke.  

Dan, if you choose to conduct your business in the middle of an interstate freeway where the traffic travels by logical universal rules at 80mph are you responsible in part for any accident your activities may precipitate?  Would not your activities attract the guardians of those thoroughfares for the potential havoc your business in such a position would cause?  (another metaphor -->) It is reasonable to assume then, that if your business is promoting satanism (regardless of if literal or figurative) in the middle of heaven even if for a purpose having little to nothing to do with it, that you would be in some part responsible for the introduction of darkness and despair into that place?  

Why would a banais righi apprenticed to Synchronicity, then react to some of your business in the middle of the Deep Water Ship as your business currently stands including the promotion of aspects of the darkness currently rejected by the very People identified as the new Guardians/Champions?  Have I not attempted to teach or inform you of the necessary history not found in your current history books to understand what has been disturbed and where the boundaries of expected limitations lie?  What are the dangers involved when illicit concepts awaken or attract the attention of the elementals within the land?  You do remember how to recognize an Elemental when you face one, I assume?

Yes, there is much to scream about, in the world, and, in your eyes, my association with an employee of the CIA could easily be construed as guilt by association.  I have never denied that circumstance.  

It is not your association or his being an employee of the CIA per se, Dan, although that does raise an eyebrow considering the history & undeclared purposes of that organization.
It is purely the topical issues involved and the blatant demonstrated of unconcern & disregard that comes with the inclusion or acceptance of the unacceptable which attracts my attention.  Source knowing me very well knows it does not need to say a word to me in direction about these things, as it knows equally well by nature I am brought in with open sword at its utterance...even cloaked in metaphor, code, allegory.  The NSA is not the only entity that's been "hearing all, and seeing all".

Did I not say several times, that if you wish to work the field of All Being, you do not require any of the darkness that comes with those associations? You already possess what is necessary. That was a suggestion, not an order.  A suggestion made in kindness.  I clarified that suggestion by pointing an the two choices on the Paradigm Map that lay before you.  I reiterate, bottom left of the map.

It may well be, Cy, that I am consorting with a paid assassin.  My consort certainly does not subscribe to Christian morality in his work environment.  I do not preach morality to him.  He does his job, I do mine.  There may be a minimal overlap of agendas.  That possibility is my working hypothesis.  I’m always open to any discussion of these points.  

Then I assume you can equally understand that my responsibilities on the broader scope involves concern over the welfare of the People both here and abroad where choices made here exports chaos abroad?  And further develops it within?

When you drive a car, you drive within the lines.  A modicum of restraint and respect of the world and others on the same or neighboring roads goes a very long way to arriving safely at a desired destination for EVERYONE involved.

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In the meantime, I continue to have difficulty with Eric Garza, aka. sham and smelly.  I am sorely tempted to pull the plug on Eric, but that move would likely be counter productive.  

As an interim measure I would have to ask Ackbar to cease responding to Eric on this thread.  If you feel the need to high-five Eric, please take it to another thread.  Allow me, please, to work one on one with him on this thread.  

My case against Eric is that he is practicing insolence with respect to me and my message, and doing so in a very verbose and disruptive manner, in a space that is dedicated to a discussion of the BPWH.  

At what point do insolence and disruption shade into outright blasphemy?  I claim to be the Spirit of Truth.  If you wish to blaspheme the SoT.......... you might wish to know what you are getting yourself into.  

Eric blasphemes the entire prophetic tradition.  As a child, he was abused by his evangelical family.  He is getting his revenge on the tradition and on me.  I understand, but the world is not going to stop just for Eric to get his revenge.  

I labor under the impression that the prophetic tradition has a mission that has yet to be accomplished.  I believe that I may know how to accomplish that mission.  I’m asking you, Eric, to cease the disruption.  You are welcome to discuss specific points with me.  You are not welcome to stamp your feet when I decline your invitation to imbibe of your specific potion.  

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dan wrote:
At what point do insolence and disruption shade into outright blasphemy?  I claim to be the Spirit of Truth.  If you wish to blaspheme the SoT.......... you might wish to know what you are getting yourself into.
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smelly wrote:Delete yourself you tin pot dictator and wring that chicken’s neck while you’re at it.

**Muah**

Jofo wrote:we are all divinely inspired, and all of our perspectives are as well

smelly wrote:

I don’t really like you Dan, so I must be having you on.

99 wrote:You're what we call, a 2-faced b*itch and I'm pretty sure I don't like you. You'll turn on Dan again at the drop of a hat because your alliances are obviously with Eric. Dan would be a fool to allow you to continue to post in this thread.