Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

First topic message reminder :

nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution

Yes, I imagined you might disagree.

After all, what I said, this requires direct experience.

Ackbar,

Smelly and I agree here.  Our families will not be able to shield us from the Void.  

Now, I claim that my Monad is a bit warmer and fuzzier than Eric’s void, but that is a very relative statement.  From where you sit now, you would hardly recognize the difference.

And where you sit is where virtually everyone else is sitting, in the here and now.

Yes, smelly whistles past this mother of all graveyards. And so does everyone else, each of us in our own way.

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You sound more sober now Dan, good.

And we can disagree without tormenting or jabbing each other, but we agree here.

But we do so like to jab each other, don't we

I'm impatient at times, shrug.

I was waiting for something to happen here, and it happened in me.

Isn't that the point of OMF?

Good job Cy.

Look, I'm on board with all this, immaterialist, small world, dream, solipsism, I am god complex stuff.

I spend at least an hour a day in no thought and practice conscious sleeping regularly. I've taken the hero's journey, following the omens and found my hidden treasure. I have woken up. I know who I am just like many of you know who you are. I don't just know it, I have experienced it. It changed my life.

At the same time however, the only thing I truly know is that I don't know anything. So, take what might be useful and toss what is not.

That said,

One thing I have come to experience is that despite all of this self proclaimed "enlightenment" I have experienced, it would all be quite meaningless without others to relate and reflect with.

Relationships are central to this dream of mine, otherwise there probably wouldn't be billions of you here with me. I think we all are experiencing ourselves through each other because we choose that path. It was the best possible path, but a path that relies on relationships. If not, we would be alone man in our garden of eden.

We chose to exist in a world of relationships, best possible relationships, did we not? Or is this is a nightmare we have to wake up from, wake up to a paradise where where we live alone?

So even though I agree with the law of Thelema, do what thou wilt, I think it can easily be misused to ones own peril.

The secret is not in doing whatever we want, but in understanding what it is that we truly want.

Are you knowing what you are wanting, what you are truly wanting?

If what you are wanting is out of balance with a life of meaningful relationships, and all relationships start with family relationships, I think it will be hard to reach the highest potential of deep lasting joy and happiness.

One might think there is no meaning to anything, but the fact that one exists and experiences joy and sorrow attests to their very right and freedom to express such thought.

If there were no meaning to material experience, there would be no material experience.

Why do we exist in a world with other people to begin with? Why is our very existence here dependent on relationships to begin with?

No child would survive long without their mother or someone to care for them. The cycle of dependency on others continues even into our elder years.

Therefore, I think we should do our best to live in a way that best nourishes and supports the family unit and relationships, which necessary means to live a life of self sacrifice and love. Giving to others without even expecting a thank you in return.

We must find harmony and balance with all of nature, including with other people.

You see, the most selfish are also the most selfless.

dan wrote:Ackbar,
Smelly and I agree here.  Our families will not be able to shield us from the Void.  

I don't think they will shield us from the Void either, but I am not in any Void right now and I don't believe that there will ever be only Void.

It's nice really, in my current existence I can choose to go in and out of the void simply by letting go of all thought.

I go to the void and fill up my cup, then come and share it with other reflections.

I can't imagine a time when there would ever be a void without a non-void. They coexist eternally. One cannot exist without the other.

The cycle can't be broken, but maybe it can be transcended by embracing it in perfect balance and harmony.

The Princess once told me, "Kashmir and I don't need to be saved. Kashmir and I needed Ron, and we have him for eternity"

Entangled particles don't need shelter from any Void, but they are entangled for eternity, in and out of void an infinite number of times in a finite moment.

I have to agree with her.

I have my family for eternity and nothing else matters.

It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it just is.

There will always be families just as there will always be entangled particles. Just as there will always be void and non-void.

Breaking the cycle is not about trying to isolate oneself from collision with their entangled pairs, collision will always happen. Breaking the cycle is about coming into perfect harmony with our pairs so that the division can be averted in the first place.

Maybe...I don't know much though.

Speaking of her Grace, I do miss her wisdom and insight.

I wonder what she would have to say about all this?

It doesn't matter.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's coming 'round to put it back the way it ought to be.

We all better learn to swim real soon.

Actually, Maynard was wrong I think, drowning is better.

The only way to float with no effort is to drown first.

We all float down hear. - some happy scary clown movie

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For someone who said "no more words" earlier today I sure had a lot more words. lol

shrug.

I'm feeling the tip of some smelly goat horns growing beneath my skull.

Ack I can see you really going through something right now.

If you ever want to chat, you can call me.

Now keep quiet

I have spoken some of families today, but may I remind you, when they asked Jesus who his family was he said,

“Who are my mother and my brothers?” “Here are my mother and my brothers! Whoever does the will of God is my brother and sister and mother”

You all are my mother and my brothers if you choose to surrender to the will of God.

Surrender or be imprisoned.

Whilst Ackbar goes to the head of the class with flying colors....

Cy tosses a shining lead brick into the middle of the room; a lesson in interconnectivity:

https://steemit.com/trending/@poppashaun/if-you-don-t-know-q-you-aint-got-a-clue-the-trump-and-qanon-connection-is-very-real-deep-state-beeing-rounded-up

Hello Apophis.

Sigh...

Ackbar was right about Parson, Smelly

He knew but he didn't understand.


Concerning three things that hide: an open bag hides nothing, an open door hides little, an open person hides something.

Ackbar/Earthling

You need to let go of these delusions and restore the relationship with your wife and daughter.I know that you’ve been struggling for a long time partly as a result of the things posted by Dan and much of the internet in general. Another part of it is that you’re prone to this sort of thinking. It’s imperative that you understand this keep it in mind as you go through your life.

Haha.

We can disagree Cy.

I trust direct experience.

Not laughing at the last post, that was kind of personal.

Shrug.

You guys read conspiracy stuff all day long.

You didn’t dig into his soul.

You judged him, lots of bitching and judging around here.

I know why, so, you will get there.

You like to hear what your itching ears want to hear.

Not the Truth.

That’s fine, ignorance everywhere and everyone is entitled to their monstrous beliefs and religions.

“Our Self, the light of pure Knowing, never finds, knows or comes in contact with anything other than itself. That is the experience of love and beauty.

Everything belongs to everything; everyone belongs to everyone.“

— Rupert Spira

Love Jack as yourselves.

See everyone has something for you.

Even us on the Left Hand path.

You just can’t see what they did, it’s fine.

I can.

Thanks Jack, much love.

WakingUpToReality wrote:Ackbar/Earthling

You need to let go of these delusions and restore the relationship with your wife and daughter.I know that you’ve been struggling for a long time partly as a result of the things posted by Dan and much of the internet in general. Another part of it is that you’re prone to this sort of thinking. It’s imperative that you understand this keep it in mind as you go through your life.

My relationship with my wife and daughters is whole and beautiful. Have you missed everything I have said today? Nothing is more important than my family.

Look everyone here, this is hard stuff, no doubt.

I have compassion, but enjoyment seeing others stripped bare like I was.

But there is nothing else to do, than find your center.

We are all being challenged.

That’s good.

No one should hold too tightly to anything is what I’ve been saying.

Our culture is ours. It’s kind of irrelevant to Nature.

Change or perish is how the flow works.

It’s hard for people settled in culture to extract themselves, I’m still working a 9-5.

But I’m focused on the moment completely.

I have planted so many consciousness bombs everywhere I write.

They are going off now.

I know this is hard.

It takes people years of focus to find Awareness.

Be patient here, as I will try to be.

We can help each other.

We have to help each other.

And that’s how it’s done

One by one.

And all are equal in this.

I have also learned that living life is why we have it.

Missions destroy families.

Missions destroy people.

The ones you are connected to are the ones who need you, not the world.

I’m connected here to everyone now and our lives are synchronizing.

I know who I am even if no one else does.

Each can find that bedrock.

So don’t trust Dan, Ron, Cy, the Princes, haha, or myself.

Trust yourself.

Work your shit out.

Make the hard choices and move on if needed or go all in.

I’m a risk taker, I’m all in bitches, I DARE.

To the Monad/Void or bust.

We just have each other.

And if people want hard Disclosure here on OMF, it’s messy and personal, suck it up buttercup.

All my love always.

smelly,

Not everyone benefits from understanding reality. If the ultimate goal for all of us is comfort, then it’s important that we respect ignorance where it matters, and practice patience.

Study the brick (map) gentlemen.  It's all there.  Course correction.  Carefully consider bottom right and bottom left.  https://steemit.com/trending/@poppashaun/if-you-don-t-know-q-you-aint-got-a-clue-the-trump-and-qanon-connection-is-very-real-deep-state-beeing-rounded-up

Dan's two choices are depicted bottom left.  

Ackbar bottom right in the oval...then affirmation just to the right of that.

Smelly by your failure in the skill of listening you have become the epitome of Parson.  In the amount of time given you did not take the time necessary to study the 'brick' (map) at link what it would take even to minimally understand the implications of what you are staring at...i.e. failure in skill of listening.

Concerning three things that hide: an open bag hides nothing, an open door hides little, an open person hides something

I agree Walking.

The goal is not comfort, the reality is change.

No goals.

But you know what, that is their problem completely.

They can only help themselves.

Many will crack.

We will have to help pick up the pieces, but I’m for the dreamers.

I’m here for those with the courage to stand in themselves.

I won’t every back down when I feel the impulse.

We can’t mediate this based on our understanding.

We will all need to trust ourselves.

It seems obvious to me, self evident how fooled we are, but I know losing a religion is traumatic.

I know the pain of doubt.

But you must stay focused and constant.

Only those who want to know will know.

Many won’t and don’t, so what?

Again, I have compassion, but’s that’s their problem to clear up.

Cy, you only judge yourself.

I have failed at nothing.

Cy, you and I are not on the same page.

We have nothing to discuss.

And I always listen.

That link of yours is lunacy.

Shrug.

smelly wrote:I agree Walking.

The goal is not comfort, the reality is change.

No goals

Changing Dan has been one of your goals, but you’re not able to properly justify it.

No one can change anyone but themselves Walking.

And no one knows anyone’s goals.

If you don’t see what’s happening here now, shrug.

I do.

It ain’t the stuff Cy is talking about or Dan mostly.

It’s about the personal interactions here I see popping.

That’s meaningful.

It has nothing to do with Disclosure.

It’s personal.

Disclosure is just the cover to expose our hearts.

I don’t need to justify anything.

Do you have a mission Walking?

We say things that intentionally lead to changes in others. I’m basically saying that it’s not right to do this in certain instances.

smelly wrote:Cy, you only judge yourself.

I have failed at nothing.

Cy, you and I are not on the same page.

We have nothing to discuss.

And I always listen.

That link of yours is lunacy.

Shrug.

That link of mine is lunacy?  Says the man who doesn't know the first thing about any bread crumb listed on it with the interconnection?  Doesn't know the history or the implications.  Much is said in that image.

A man dismisses military intelligence a product with the wave of a hand.  Lol

As you wish.  

Eric you crave attention...yet you dismiss meaning...you reel off words without connecting them to the world around you in any other way than superficially.  Why would Dan gravitate to that?  He has greater potential...he yearns for meaning and works hard to earn it despite proximity of that which could corrupt that potential...doesn't guarantee success only a nod of recognition!  

Did you notice the position of Thelema?  Perhaps you never noticed its presence?  What frames it Eric?  What relates to it?

Why would this be important?  You see Synchronicity but you are not yet understanding it.

Eric you claim to base your ideas and reactions in existence upon experience.  Yet I'm not seeing experience from you.  I'm seeing wild abandon based on the high produced by the swirl of energies around you...this is not wisdom.  This is addiction and drug abuse.

I present you with experience and you reject it without thoughtful consideration which is the FIRST hallmark of the Shaman.