I spent last night trying to figure out what you were saying, UT.....
I'm trying to translate what you're saying into what I'm saying.
Is my way of speaking superior to yours? It might be, for going forward. I'm trying to be more technical...... more philosophical. The MoAPS will entail a new way of communicating new concepts. We need to be clear about which are the old concepts, and which are the new. When trying to make a point, I'll often revert to the old, materialistic, dualistic ways of speaking, but I do so mostly with deliberation. We can communicate more loosely, once we agree upon the basics.......
1.) Persons = Sapients
2.) #1 is all there is.
Yes, this is the foundation of the BPWH. Technically, this is called Personalism.
In the 'real' world, what folks also call the 'physical' world, besides persons, there exist cats. Kashmir is a cheetah on the other side. But on the other side, she is a sapient cheetah.
What about the cheetahs on this side.....? Well, they don't talk. However, my niece will swear to you that her cat is telepathic. There are people who communicate with plants. Well, I'd humbly suggest that, although cats have personalities, they are not sapients. They are not persons, in any technical sense.
So, which came 'first', sentience or sapience......?
(Notice the 'scare' quotes that I use on 'first'. In this instance, the quotes indicate that I'm speaking ontologically, rather than temporally or historically.)
Ontologically, neither one. This is one of the many instances of co-dependent origination, CDO, a crucial part of the mnemonic, that is often referred to, qv.
Sentience....... you see one color, you've seen them all. Are there not fifty shades of gray? Such distinctions apply mainly to sapience. But, if you're Ronald Reagan, and, if you've seen one tree, you've seen them all. True, and to that extent, I'm doubtful of his sapience.
Also, in the mnemonic, I speak of symmetry breaking, SB. SB is mainly cognized by sapience. In fact, there is a corollary.......
1b.) Sapience = Cognizance
Honey bees perceive color, but I'll wager that they have no such concept.
But, wait, now I'm getting too technical......
What I'm driving at is that, among sentients, there is no objectification or individuation, not even of themselves..... especially not of themselves. There is no self-awareness.
Now, I'm sure that my niece would take great umbrage, bless her heart. My goddaughter would take great umbrage.
Amongst sentients, there is no deliberation. The is only totemic instinct, applied situationally. There might be the conception of a flock, as there is of a tribe, say. There is no speciation.
Did not species arise through natural symmetry breaking.....? No, I'm not a Darwinist. I'm also not a Creationist. I'm a CDOist. Isn't that being impersonal?
There is a cosmic potency, potentiality. This is where the vital force originates. This potency is the origin of deep or logical 'time'. In physics, virtual or potential photons are the source of the E&M forces.
This cosmic potency is potentially omniscient. The pleroma of this omniscience is just its omnisentience. The species, in order to break the potentiality barrier, must be objectified and individuated.
Did God have to personally individuate all 350,000 species of beetles....? Booorrring........
No, we, creatures, did most of that heavy lifting, back in the dreamtime. DNA and atoms were created teleologically, in the bargain, by our scientists of the future.
Therefore, science exists in both the historical and logical/teleological dimensions of time. This bi-dimensionality is especially obvious with regard to mathematics. Much of science, I am told, is done by remote viewing the future. It's sort of a push-pull operation...... ouroboric, a lot like our historical world, which is on the order of 24kyr in diameter.
Deep space and deep time.......? They are the product of teleological time..... of cosmic intelligence, just like DNA.
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So, UT, how far could the world around us have gotten without us....?
What I'm suggesting is that it could never have gotten off the ground.
It could never have pulled itself out of the primal pleroma..... the originating 'quantum' phantasmagoria, with sapience. Keep in mind that the sapience of personhood is holistic. It has no overlap with Artificial Intelligence, despite the hoopla.
Why, then, has the cosmic intelligence, CI, gone to such lengths to deceive itself/ourselves about the nature of reality? The veil of Nature is simply the Katechon. It's what keeps the lid on the pressure cooker we call Creation. With the help of our Visitor, we are about to relieve that pressure slowly..... no fireworks, please.
The safety valve is about to kick in. And trust me, it'll be very safe. The are many layers of security in place..... many filters and buffers. How do I know? I know, because this is the best possible disclosure, in the best possible world, UT. UT just can't believe that the sky will fall. Believe, hon.
It's just like that Flammarion engraving, where the traveler pokes his head through the sky........
One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you, don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing rabbits, and you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah-smoking caterpillar has given you the call
And call Alice, when she was just small
When the men on the chessboard get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom, and your mind is moving low
Go ask Alice, I think she'll know
When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the red queen's off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your head, feed your head
Each interpersonal portal, as I'm told, is individuated...... into its own world, but all the worlds are connected. You need an internal GPS.
Each portal may have its own 'key/actuator'. Many keys have been misplaced. The keys need personal actuation. There is an inside door that must be activated from the other side...... many layers.
I suspect, UT, that the Elysian Fields you remotely viewed were some overview of these worlds on the other side.
However, if you keep following the white rabbit, you end up back at the Source/Telos/Monad. The Source is well beyond the cosmic event horizon. You don't come back to tell the tale..... cosmic censorship.
That sounds impersonal...... Well, the Olympiad may reside in this restaurant at the end of the universe. You can check, but you can't check out @hotel CA.
The Source is a hive. There is a queen bee. She checks out, as a neonate, as the Visitor.
Me? I'm just a portal virgin. Maybe I'd better check it out.
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