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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by dan Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:11 pm

    Chivo,

    Ok, let’s try this out……..

    I’m sitting in the small common area of what is euphemistically called an integrative care unit…… unit #nm……. of the major local general hospital in the suburban town where I live.  

    I’m reading opinion pieces in the “‘Grey’ Lady” about how rapidly ‘donny’ is hitting the skids, politically speaking.



    (cont……..)

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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:35 pm

    Holy Smokes!

    It's Dan and he's talking in big words even!

    He's ok!

    In fact he's FINE!

    It's time to celebrate!



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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:44 pm

    I don't know what to say but this is indeed a momentous event!

    I'm completely staggered.

    Dan, thank you very much for stopping by here and posting a message to let us know about your current health status.

    I'm am so happy that you got through all of that.... and that everything is intact... my goodness!
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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:51 pm

    I'm going to finally get some sleep tonight.

    Goodnight Dan and God Bless!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:59 am

    Well, let’s not assume everything is in tact just yet Wink

    Yes, Trump has always been and always will be fake news.

    That his stupid thoughts can so mesmerize the simple minded says a lot about the current state of humanity.

    We have some very very stupid muppets walking around.

    You can have compassion for trump and his followers.

    They are in great great pain.

    They feel abandoned by god and this world.

    So they have banded together.

    The abandoned.

    I don’t know that Dan was fully in tact before his event.

    Maybe we all feel abandoned in a way, shipwrecked.

    English is my only language.

    I was pondering this yesterday.

    We are trapped by our language.

    But often there are internal representations that I experience without verbal or mental equivalents.

    Ancient Greek is so much more interesting in some places.

    There are many words for the same thing.

    So context is key.

    The Greek language is Europe’s most ancient. It has existed for at least 4,000 years as an oral tradition and 3,500 years in writing. With the exception of two Chinese dialects, it is the only ancient language with an uninterrupted existence – in other words, it hasn’t  died. Other even more ancient languages existed prior to Greek, such as Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian, but they all died. Ours is the only one that remains alive, in another form, of course.

    Languages are living organisms and they die. They expect Quechua, a language spoken on the Falkland Islands by five individuals aged between 87 and 93 to have vanished in the next few years. Strange synchronicity, Dan mentioned the Falkland Islands to me several times recently.

    The magic of language is seen when one group mixes with another, they begin to share and swap language.

    There is another language that is embedded within us.

    It seems non-local.

    Skips across time.

    As one learns to speak and understand it, it changes you in weird ways.

    The past, present and future become one connected fabric.

    It is maybe the original tongue.

    It isn’t even a verbal language, it can be verbalized, it is more like singing than speaking.

    Many generations have experienced it internally through symbols.

    It partially is communicated in how we move.

    Some have described it as the language of the birds, the green language, the original divine language.

    In Kabbalah, Renaissance magic, and alchemy, the language of the birds was considered a secret and perfect language and the key to perfect knowledge, sometimes also called the langue verte, or green language.

    It is the language of the spirit. The Spirit, which “bloweth where it listeth” and when it listeth, can always come and revivify symbols and rites, and restore to them, along with their lost meaning, the plenitude of their original virtue.

    Trump speaks in a very low vulgar way.

    His speech is driven by contempt for those he is speaking to.

    Why have I spoken about this?

    That’s my riddle for you.

    http://www.worldwisdom.com/public/viewpdf/default.aspx?article-title=The_Language_of_the_Birds_by_Rene_Guenon.pdf

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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:17 am

    I've got a busy day ahead of me and will only be checking in every now and then for updates. But will post this evening some time and will read your link before that. thanks
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Nov 17, 2022 3:45 pm

    Trump fooled the masses

    Said he was going to Washington to drain the swamp, but what does he do as soon as he is elected?

    Appoints a bunch neocons to his cabinet.

    Haha!

    Whoop!

    He won’t be president again

    People aren’t really that dumb are they?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 4:58 pm

    His minority support is dumb enough, yes.

    But he can’t win women or the middle.

    He’s done.

    He only did this to avoid prosecution.

    The midterms showed he’s done.

    People don’t want election deniers.

    It’s a stupid strategy.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:45 pm

    Descartes got it totally backwards.

    I AM, therefore I think.

    Everyone and thing is god.

    Everything you hate is god too.

    You can’t just take the good.

    Trump is god.

    And so am I.

    This awareness opens it all up.

    Most can’t get past their shadow.

    It doesn’t matter who doesn’t really.

    But to embrace love of all is ridiculous freedom.

    Find your gift and give it away.

    Passionate creation is your purpose.

    This is my whole project on OMF


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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:50 pm

    Yes, from what I've been reading, he's running so early like this to avoid prosecution.

    But the Biden administration actually wants him to run because Biden will win again with Trump as his Republican opponent.

    But I doubt Trump will even get that far. Someone else will probably win the Republican nomination.
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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:00 pm

    Got a new air fryer and just made some fried dill pickles... really good!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:19 pm

    [quote="Smelly El Chivo"]Descartes got it totally backwards.

    I AM, therefore I think.

    Everyone and thing is god.

    Everything you hate is god too.

    You can’t just take the good.

    Trump is god.

    And so am I.

    This awareness opens it all up.

    Most can’t get past their shadow.

    It doesn’t matter who doesn’t really.

    But to embrace love of all is ridiculous freedom.


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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:21 pm

    Read that pdf file, The Language of the Birds".

    René Guénon, whom I've heard of before, is worth looking into.

    When I have the time I'll read some more of his writings.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:23 pm

    Find your gift and give it away.

    Passionate creation is your purpose.

    This is my whole project on OMF.
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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:45 pm

    “God is love” ( 1 John 4:8, 16 )

    God does not hate.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:54 pm

    All of it occurs in the infinite.

    The hate belongs to this as well.

    It is humans and their thinking that divides.

    There is no division here.

    The path to awareness has you accept it all.

    When one does this, there is no room for hatred or fear or boredom, creativity bubbles up and the love pushes all that away.

    Hatred lives in the shadows.

    Here, in myself, as an example, the sun is too bright for it.
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:30 pm

    Declaring a potential Emergency…… code named Apple Drop.  

    This means that the person assigned to the Apple Station duty is being forcibly removed from that station.  

    Right now, the situation appears calmer.  

    When I began this post, my assigned nurse, within Unit 47, had asked me firmly to vacate the common area, and return to my private room, #4703.

    When I refused, she promptly left the Unit.

    We do not yet have in place a backup plan.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:57 pm

    I know what Apple 🍎 drop means.

    Hang in there Dan.
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:22 pm

    Had there been no further response, any attending interested parties would have assembled a proportionate response………


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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:31 pm

    You should probably do what they say Dan. I think that would be the best way to go for the time being.
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:51 pm

    99,

    Thanks for giving me a break!



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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:56 pm

    You're welcome Dan.

    I hope you're feeling a little better today.

    Keep stopping by here... we love hearing from you!
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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:03 pm

    You deserve it dan!

    If there's anyone out there who deserves a break, it's you.

    You've been through so much lately, giving you a break is the least I can do.

    Lol...
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    Post by 99 Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:07 pm

    But once you recover from everything and you're back home and back on this board everyday like you were before.. no more breaks! lol
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:08 pm

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