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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by Cyrellys Sun Sep 25, 2022 8:51 pm

    Foot Mann wrote:On command of the Princess, the Chicken will soon be rendered to a safe location. Good luck to those who are unprotected.

    Good luck against what?  
    a. nuclear war
    b. sun going ape
    c. invasion from open portals
    e. blue avians sending in the nonhuman clowns
    f.  another asteroid that steers itself
    g. a sister solar system with a giant planet X and electrical exchange between it and us.
    h. ?

    I think I've lost track of all the different things that could eat me and I'm still unclear what IT is because there's more boogeymen than elements on the Periodic Chart.  Everyone too busy playing word games to speak plainly.  I'm an antique because if I were going to tell someone they were about to get squished like a bug, I'd at least tell them to watch out for that grey car about 15 foot to your right, its a doozy.


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    Post by U Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:50 pm

    Honestly Cy, I think homeboi was making a joke about the 24th.

    It certainly gave me a smile 😊

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    Post by dan Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:06 am

    We’re on day seven of our trip to Turkey 🇹🇷…… a relatively safe location.  

    Vacation plus? seems to be coming off with nary a glitch, thanks to our esteemed tour director.  

    I finally figured out how things work……..

    chick 🐣 talks to three….. three talks to 3.5…….. and 3.5 talks to the kitty 🐈⬛ warriors.  

    How better to arrange things?  

    I’m just along to observe the Princess setting up our Middle Eastern network.  

    Two………?  

    Two is the muscle………. and we mean that in a good 👍 way…….  

    Had I been told all this at the outset, it might have been a different story…….. you have to work your way into this.  

    God works in subtle ways.  

    We are still observing the ten year time frame.

    The felines were here before us. They were here for the creation of the Sun 🌞.

    They also know about it’s demise.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:32 am

    Let the good times roll.

    Another day in Paradise.

    The goats shall inherit the earth.

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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:18 pm

    U wrote:Honestly Cy, I think homeboi was making a joke about the 24th.

    It certainly gave me a smile 😊


    You mean like five guys in a foxhole just before the kinetic bbq joking with each other about who will look more like a oppossum on a spit, 5 seconds after death?

    Instead of using their collective brain power on working out an alternative.


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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:23 pm

    Did you all know that the mean temperature of the post asteroid swamp climate was about 3-4x hotter than today's average? That it gave rise to broadleaf trees and Titanboa making the reptile's prodigious size and crocodile eating assumed habit, possible? The experts state it's also proof the climate change/heating won't kill off swamps/jungles and animal life. But it will certainly increase the size of the predators. Is that how we are to explain the bloom in DC now?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:30 pm

    The rich and the clever have always thought they dominated the hard working muppet.

    But money is certainly no measure of true wealth, one who discovers this, transcends all ignorance and can not be dominated by any but themselves.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:37 pm

    Hey Primesuspect, no one can do anything for another really. Go sell your delusional silliness to the dumb trump muppets maybe on Truth social, not many of those here on OMF.

    Above is a response to some PM spam I got.

    As if anyone could help smelly 🐐 ha!
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    Post by U Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:54 pm

    Mama always said they built the Cape there for a reason

    It's an Astro-Secret, amongst the Sargasso Sea.

    Unlike DC, it's a swamp that won't be drained.

    Theirs had it coming...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:10 pm

    If you have not love for yourself and others, you have nothing at all.

    Any philosophy, political party, religion based on terror and not love to build your character on, is simply wrong and empty.

    To believe others are damned or should be is simply to damn thyself.

    To think you can or should escape, is to seal your doom.

    Embrace it all or none of it.

    This is a backward lost age of humanity teetering under hatred of the other.

    It should fall down and will continue to.

    It is not sustainable.

    Thankfully emotional movements ebb, because one can’t hate the other forever, can we survive these ebbs?

    Maybe, maybe not.

    To make war is to war with yourself.

    Do you love or hate?

    That’s the only question.

    I chose love and I’ve never looked back.

    That most of the world hasn’t made this choice is unfortunate.

    I am nothing special myself alone, all of this is though.

    A great deal of what happens today is spiritual and psychological abuse of children.

    The muppets are children.

    They are being led astray in massive numbers.

    They have not the Will nor the intelligence to resist the wolves.

    I’ll tell you, I don’t believe in any hell other than the one we are making now.

    The 🔥 will test all matter.

    We all ultimately become ashes and dust.

    I think love is prior to the body and preserves and maintains us.

    To cut yourself off from it is to truly suffer.

    I pray now.

    I pray for wisdom.

    I pray for strength of character.

    I pray for love to fill us all.

    To unify us.

    I do not fight for a creed or a race or a nation or a party.

    I fight against my own ignorance, not anything else.

    The spirit within me reaches for its source.

    Aches for it.

    The Bible is allegorical, not literal.

    Historia in Greek does not mean what it does in modernity.

    It means inquiry, the act of seeking knowledge, as well as the knowledge that results from inquiry.

    Where does that inquiry lead?

    To mystery and wonder, not hatred of the other.

    Americans have made Jesus into the saint of guns, state’s rights and Libertarianism.

    We can make a religion out of anything it seems.

    Be careful who you follow and what you make idols of.

    Best not to follow anything and to smash all your idols.

    Humans trying to become Prometheans leads to destruction.

    When will we learn to follow the deepest longings of our heart?

    It seeks Thee.

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    Post by 99 Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:21 am

    Gosh, hope the just-under-Cat 5 Ian doesn't sink Sanibel Island. Their J.N. "Ding" Darling National Wildlife Refuge is awesome.
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    Post by 99 Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:11 am

    Cy, looks like Germany is out of a deal with Russia due to Nord Stream 1 and 2's blow-ups. The CIA warned Berlin over the summer to watch those pipelines closely but I guess they didn't watch them close enough. Can't imagine GE going without heat this coming winter but it sounds like that's exactly what's going to happen.
    Your PDF paper you posted in that other thread was very illuminating but never imagined this would happen.
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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:36 am

    99 wrote:Cy, looks like Germany is out of a deal with Russia due to Nord Stream 1 and 2's blow-ups. The CIA warned Berlin over the summer to watch those pipelines closely but I guess they didn't watch them close enough. Can't imagine GE going without heat this coming winter but it sounds like that's exactly what's going to happen.
    Your PDF paper you posted in that other thread was very illuminating but never imagined this would happen.

    Yes.  If you notice every piece of critical infrastructure that can contribute to saving the current edition of civilization is being systematically damaged or destroyed.

    The disappearing food is most likely being taken to redoubts.  Would explain the suits who show up as escorts for the "disposal".  

    The bulk food suppliers were onto their purchases and attempts to bump their regular customers, so it makes logical sense a change of tactics that eliminates that leak of their activities.  It was expected, just not known what they'd choose to do.

    So question is, was Foot being facetious about his comment or have the Sith Lords finished their lead up to take down?  They've certainly managed to put Russia on the fish hook.  Russia could throw their entire dismantling of Humanity's existence for a loop if they chose to not play ball on it.  It would then force the Sith to pull a Jericho scenario literally.  It would sacrifice most likely some of our cities but as a whole humanity if they didn't retaliate would be able to salvage civilization and survival.  

    The biggest thing stopping us from saving this edition of human civilization is the inability to wrap our collective mind around a movement at the top of the elite totem pole capable of pulling something like this off.  Without that you cannot make analysis and choices that are meaningful and effective because the first step is always accurately identifying who or what is trying to kill you.  Why is incidental to the first step.


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    Post by 99 Fri Sep 30, 2022 4:54 am

    Cy, in a way I want to mollify you on your view you expressed in your most recent post in this thread but due to lack of clarity I'm not sure what to make of it so I can't do that. You are kind of going all over the place in that post. Sorry.

    Nevertheless, back to what I was talking about, it's easy to think that Putin weaponized those pipelines by using them as a propaganda tool to basically cause more confusion and chaos.

    They perhaps want everyone to think that the US is the culprit but, quite frankly, that motive is too convoluted for even Russia to try.

    But having said this, the fact that Russian ships were seen in that area on the Baltic sea during the time when those pipes exploded does indeed raise some red flags.
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    Post by 99 Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:08 am

    One thing is certain though.... Putin's going nuclear. Of course, I fervently hope I'm wrong about this but  I don't think so.

    Dan and co. need to come home now.
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    Post by U Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:50 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:
    Yes Chivo,

    Why indeed?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:02 pm

    Religious scientific stupidity.

    Multiverse is absurd and unprovable.

    It’s a fine tuned universe.

    Enjoy.


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    Post by U Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:03 pm

    99 wrote:One thing is certain though.... Putin's going nuclear. Of course, I fervently hope I'm wrong about this but  I don't think so.

    Dan and co. need to come home now.

    99, my friend, if Vladdie intended on going for broke and nuking this world back to the stone age, do you think Dan and Co could prevent that with their Portal Majik?

    Hey, maybe they could but if I've ever taken any lesson from the BPW blog it's that the worse it gets the better.

    That seems to be how Dan's cosmology shakes out.

    Why Immanentize the Eschaton when you can Initiate it instead?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:04 pm

    They don’t got no portal magick, but I do.

    They don’t know themselves at all.

    Vladdie is canceled!

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    Post by U Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:26 pm

    Big Talk frumma Goat!
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    Post by dan Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:07 am

    Here we are, on day 10 of our excursion…….

    We’ve had our obligatory dawn balloon 🎈 ride.  

    The ride was beautiful and uneventful, thanks to our very professional pilot.  

    I’ve never experienced such a gentle landing……. right on top of the flatbed trailer.  

    We were alleged to have had a close encounter with an historical portal, which encounter was independently confirmed by an associate of an associate…… allegedly.

    There are said to have been two meetings, to which I was either not invited and/or fell asleep 😴 prior to the event.  

    Turkey is generally a gem of a country, with the people being uniformly friendly.  

    The confirmation was alleged to have been antipodal.

    I don’t know if there was any particular significance to this fact.  

    The Princess has not yet made a personal visit to said antipode, but I understand that said visit will be in the offing.  

    As to how much geographical visitation is then left to be accomplished, I don’t know 🤷‍�.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:38 am

    The muppet travels here and there

    They seek the truth everywhere

    But goats sleep fat and happy

    Never needing to travel the mappy

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