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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:28 am

    “And the enchantment of Maya, in modern psychological terms, is exactly the image of the world that you have as a consequence of your fears and desires.  If you could break away from your ego limitations, you would behold the world of paradise right here and now.  There is a Buddhist saying: ‘This world, with all its ills, with all its horrors, with all its stupidities, with all its darkness, is the golden lotus world.’  THIS is the golden lotus world right now, as it is.  And if you cannot see it, such is not the world’s fault.  What must be corrected is not the world, but your own perspective.  And so we find in the Grail legend that everything needed is all there, only it is not being seen.  And what the hero is to do is to clarify the situation.”

    ~Joseph Campbell, Romance of the Grail: The Magic and Mystery of Arthurian Myth, p. 153-154

    BPW=Golden Lotus World
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    Post by GSB Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:32 pm

    I used to get mad at my school (no, I can't complain)
    The teachers who taught me weren't cool (no, I can't complain)
    You're holding me down (ah-ah)
    Turning me 'round (oh-oh)
    Filling me up with your rules (fool, you fool)
    I've got to admit it's getting better (better)
    A little better all the time (it can't get no worse)



    Avi Loeb: Virtual realities may solve Fermi's paradox about extraterrestrials

    https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/588445-virtual-realities-may-solve-fermis-paradox-about-extraterrestrials

    The development of the metaverse venture on 3D virtual worlds may solve Fermi’s paradox about extraterrestrials. The answer to Fermi’s 70-year-old question “where is everybody?” might be: They are hooked to virtual reality goggles and do not engage in the actual universe that the rest of us share.

    In his science-fiction book “Childhood's End”, Arthur C. Clark already forecasted virtual avatars as early as in 1953:

    “First sound, then color, then stereoscopy, then Cinerama, had made the old ‘moving pictures’ more and more like reality itself. Where was the end of the story? Surely, the final stage would be reached when the audience forgot it was an audience, and became part of the action. To achieve this would involve stimulation of all the senses, and perhaps hypnosis as well, but many believed it to be practical. When the goal was attained there would be an enormous enrichment of human experience. A man could become — for a while, at least — any other person, and could take part in any conceivable adventure, real or imaginary. He could even be a plant or an animal, if it proved possible to capture and record the sense impressions of other living creatures. And when the ‘program’ was over, he would have acquired a memory as vivid as any experience in his actual life — indeed, indistinguishable from reality itself.”


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    Post by GSB Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:35 pm

    Avi: During the Ignatius Forum that I attended at the Washington National Cathedral on Nov. 10, Jeff Bezos mentioned that his aspirations for space tourism were triggered by his fascination with “Star Trek” as a kid. Hearing this confession, I told Avril Haines sitting next to me that I was never impressed by “Star Trek” because its storyline violates the laws of physics. Haines joked, “We have to work on you, Avi.”


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    Post by dan Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:12 pm

    Chivo,

    Yes, all of us do have direct access to Eternity and to the One.  

    But we are presently immersed in the temporality of history.

    That temporality necessarily has an end.

    The Sun and Earth only exist within the context of human history.

    We have come from the Source, and we return to the Source.  

    We all become one with the One.
    ……….


    Gary,

    And what is the best possible virtual reality?  

    But I don’t see why it has to be virtual.

    Why do we have to introduce the cosmic Computer?  

    There is a sense in which we are all ‘transistors’ in the cosmic mind.  

    The world is a computer built out of persons.  

    But, at the same time, the computer itself turns out to be a person.

    It’s just persons all the way down.

    If we could, I think we’d rather forego the transistors, and just deal with people.  

    There is a strong sense in which we are ‘programming’ each other.  

    We are co-Creators……. we are co-‘programmers’.  

    It amounts to the same thing.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:21 pm

    Monists tend to think the world a dream.

    Then it wouldn’t matter what you do.

    Some treat life like it doesn’t matter.

    So then theirs will not.

    Life is pointless they proclaim.

    They despair.

    Waaaaaa

    Imagination is the essence of consciousness.

    Imagination is the key to occult truth.

    Engage it and you will know more about life than the monist.

    It is where and how we individuate.

    Monists seek union with the one.

    They seek to dissolve into the Ein Sof.

    That’s counter-evolutionary.

    Lucifer says, no so fast 🐐

    Monists are dangerous.

    Existentialism as realism as opposed to idealism I say.

    Idealism wants to bring consciousness outside the world.

    Something about chick has always bugged me.

    This was the best way I could explain what bugs me.

    I’m not an idealist or monist.

    I don’t see myself dissolving into the source.

    Oh no.

    What is happening is much more than that I suspect.

    We are invited.

    There is a place for desire and passion.

    The ego is not some monster to slay.

    The monster sees us as the monster.  

    The ego can evolve, as the body does.

    I think Dan has it wrong.

    He can go dissolve into nothing.

    It hurts when you put your hand in the toaster.

    Take life as it comes and observe what happens.

    Ashes to ashes.

    Just my smelly opinion.
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    Post by GSB Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:06 am

    "Why do we have to introduce the cosmic Computer? There is a sense in which we are all ‘transistors’ in the cosmic mind. The world is a computer built out of persons. But, at the same time, the computer itself turns out to be a person."

    "I think Dan has it wrong. He can go dissolve into nothing."

    Dan's mind is like a black box with an input and an output. I have recently noticed a tendency towards "any input" yielding the same "BPW output."

    The sun is going out=Best Possible World ending

    The world and the future are like the black box.

    If we take "best" to mean "of the most excellent, effective, or desirable type" as input then "Houston, we have a problem."

    Perhaps the natural world was once the best possible for life (as opposed to current conditions on Mars or Venus, for example).

    Dan questions the input of technology, yet the output in the face of technological progress remains BPW.

    When different inputs continuously produce the same output, one might reasonably question whether or not the processor inside the box is broken! ;-)

    Wisdom dictates that personal discretion in the selection of input (from the knowledge base of good and evil) should have a determining influence on the output of the black box.









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    Post by dan Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:09 am

    Poor Gary……..

    He is so confused…….

    The best possible world never ends….. it is embedded in Eternity.  

    It is like a vinyl record…… floating in Eternity.  

    Think of it as Beethoven’s 5th…… known as the Symphony of Fate or the Victory symphony, appropriately enough.  

    It has four movements…….. including an overture and finale.  

    How can there be a Metanarrative without an overture and finale?

    The best possible Metanarrative has the best possible movements.

    And you ain’t seen nuthin’ until you’ve seen our finale.  

    The Grand Finale takes us back to being one with the One ☝.  

    It includes a recapitulation and explanation of everything that has come before……. this will be our extended Disclosure.

    What you see here is the barest of previews.  

    Time and history are relative illusions……. relative to being one with the One.  

    They are just a necessary prelude to our cosmic Agape.  

    The Sun will have to go out to allow the One to shine through.  

    Does this mean that the One is dimmer?  

    No, but……..

    It operates like an X-ray machine.  

    We will be able to see right through the Sun 🌞.  

    We will see the pratītyasamutpāda behind the Sun and sunflower 🌻.  

    This pratītyasamutpāda will not be some abstraction……. it will be felt….. experienced in living color.  

    Do you really want to miss out on the Grand Finale……. just because you have a couple of unpaid water bills sitting on your desk?  

    The whole point of the Grand Finale is to put everything in its proper perspective.  

    The extinguishing of the Sun is merely for dramatic effect.  

    The house lights are always extinguished before the raising of the curtain.  

    The real Show is about to begin.  

    And will we just be the passive bystanders?

    No. This will be our final participation…….. à là Owen Barfield.

    This finale will blend seamlessly into Eternity.

    Would you like to time travel back to the highlights?

    That is exactly how we are here, now.

    In the BPW, every enactment is a re-enactment.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:36 am

    You expose yourself with your expectation of an end Dan.

    Who said you get an ending, it’s logical?

    Well, logic don’t cover or explain this.

    Dan is a monist thorough and through, to the end.

    He would probably kill himself if he lost his footing at this point.

    He might crack up again, but maybe this time he should stay cracked.

    Don’t kill yourself dan if things are not as you think they are.

    Generally, I have to agree this is the best possible world Gary based on my own experience and study.

    I do not agree the sun going out is the best, but I have to takes things as they come, my prime directive.

    I don’t feel we go back to the one.

    We are already there Wink

    It’s already done.

    Use your imagination Dan, you can do better than that old line, be one with the one.

    How about be all/best you can be.

    This is the Will of god that drives each of us.

    We let the world’s red dust occlude our vision of the real.

    The world is like a dream, but not a dream.

    It is illusory, but not an illusion.

    One rational eye 👁 on the world, one 👁 on the mystery.

    Materialists can’t cross over to the mystery unless they split their minds open and think with their hearts.

    My comments are not helpful to the uninitiated, I know.

    I am filled with rationality and mystery.

    Who can speak for or explain the mystery?

    No one has or can.

    The ego is not the master.

    No doubts there.

    So how could it explain things?

    It can’t.

    Still I persist, as Dan does, as you do, trying to fit the world into his image of it.

    I would argue the real view is a composite one, no one can really see this.

    We are just all going to have to learn to get along and sing kumbaya.

    Hegel is helpful here I feel.

    Yes Dan, I see you have it all upside down and crosseyed.

    But I can’t explain.

    I have come to the conclusion anyone attempting to explain or predict anything is missing the essence of this.

    You just have to roll with the waves 🌊

    I do not have to name drop, this is before names.

    “That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.”
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    Post by dan Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:35 pm

    Yes, Chivo 🐐,

    I will readily admit that you could very well be closer to the One than is chick 🐣……. that is not a very high bar.

    I am only looking at the portal openings from the illusionary perspective of history.  

    Do you have to begrudge me that perspective?  

    There are many fellow travelers who labor under the perspective of history.  

    I am speaking mainly to them.  

    Yes, I would love to be able to wave a wand, and have my fellow travelers see things from the Chivo perspective.  

    OMF is the closest thing I have to such a magical wand.  
    …….


    A few days ago, I mentioned that ftgm had found amusement in the fact that I had predicted the end of the world on January second.  

    But that was not a completely accurate assessment of what I was saying and in what context.  

    A fair reading might have been that on Christmas week I was suggesting a favorable time for ending history could be on January second.  

    I gave some reasons for considering Jan 2 to
    a propitious date.

    Since I have been alerted to the possibility of the Sun going out within the next ten years, I have stated that this could happen on any day…… sooner rather than later.  

    That this generation may live to see such an eventuality, I am able to make this assertion with considerably more rationale than the jguy was able to, particularly in retrospect.  

    Folks of a scientific persuasion would have considerable difficulty supposing that the Sun could expire prior to its allotted time of 10^10 years.

    These same folks would be almost equally stunned by the opening of a single portal.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:25 pm

    No sir.

    I should respect my elders.
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:41 pm

    The appointed time for the portals to open, history to end, and for the Earth and Sun to depart from our consciousness, has already been written in the stars ✨ by us…….. sub specie aeternitatis.  

    It will only occur at the best possible time.  

    It is we who sustain the best possible Dream that we call the Natural world……. as well as history.  

    We sustain the astronomers who help to hold up the sky.  

    Where will the Sun and Earth go, when we go?  

    They will return to our collective imagination, from whence they sprang……. as we make our way back to Source.  

    We will experience the reverse of pratītyasamutpāda……. a co-dependent flow back to the Logos Spermatikos……… back to Eternity/agape.  

    You currently remember none of your participation in this cosmic choreography.  

    The instant the portals open, however, it will all come flooding back.  

    The mystics and Chivo experience and share their due portion.  

    These previews will be coming fast and furious…… in these latter days, and we do mean days.  

    All of our lives will be flashing before all of our eyes…… as the cosmic Mind….. the I Am…… comprehends all.

    This is the coherence of Agape……. the Cosmic Ommm………..

    We have just been tuning up for the harmony/finalé.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:40 am

    Instead of mystic or enlightened, I’d say, individuated.

    Full individuation and enlightenment are basically the same thing.

    The herd instinctively hates the individuated.

    They seek to kill and expel the foreign invader.

    One must go through a time of great rejection and scapegoating before they can find Cold 🥶 Mountain 🏔 if they make it to full flowering.

    I realize this time in my life, professionally, personally is my full flowering.

    It’s nice to look back and appreciate the journey.

    I just turned 50, a cliche I guess, to the last.

    But I don’t know many find smelly 🐐 power.

    If I had not known the pain in life I could receive and give, I couldn’t appreciate this now and be settled about what may come.

    I only offer my personal view as a diary for the others.

    I do not seek any attention at all.

    I offer full engagement in an effort to find it.

    The individuated are those who have shucked off societies bonds.

    And in so doing, one can find a love for the herd and take on a protective role that must be lived outside of the herd.

    Or one can go crazy or become violent or insanely greedy and jealous or murderous.

    The free are free to murder.

    But the individuated may hear the terrible ideas in their heads and feel the heat and fire of emotion, but they have a gap that allows them to not do everything they think and feel.

    This is a big clue and valuable skill.

    Anyone can do it.

    And I would say, this is the best way to live for myself at this time in my life.

    I am passing this on to those I communicate with in every deed and word and action.

    Speaking and writing and moving are symbolic acts, it matters what we do.

    Life is sacred and so are all our moves and acts of expression.

    Ask Gurdjieff.

    I have no idea really who this awareness is best for and when.

    Am I fortunate?

    Some would say, cursed.

    Most would throw rocks and doubt.

    Doubt is good.

    Doubt is the last step before the flower opens.

    All the causes have to have gone right to allow the flower to blossom.

    But it will come to each in the best time.

    There is some choice involved.

    I suppose we remember at the best possible time.

    Open our hearts and eyes at the best possible time.

    But some die horribly and bitter.

    Most die terrified.

    So it does appear a person in our society rarely individuates.

    This is the Kali Yuga after all.

    Perhaps when are farthest away we can be, we snap back, or are flung off into chaos and oblivion.

    I feel to not give an account of one’s journey would be a crime against  self.

    Dan has done this.

    I have done this.

    We are not looking at the world and picking a tribe or condemning it.

    We are flowing with it and embodying this.

    Follow the example or not.

    In the BPW, you do what you are able to do.

    To not speak up for yourself, is to be silenced.

    In a society run by jailors, no one escapes time in prison.

    But I was released from prison.

    I let myself out.

    There are no locks in the this prison, but there are many obstacles to escape.

    One is disoriented after leaving prison.

    Our prison is surrounded by a great wilderness.

    It’s terrifying.

    If you are close to your Will, you will be more a force of nature, than a rational muppet.

    It will guide you through the wilderness.

    But you become almost an instinctive animal save your individuated self.

    Some don’t want to come out and play.

    That’s cool.

    All in good and bad time.

    We will dance.

    And I will slap you, before I embrace you.

    And that is my greatest act of love I could give anyone.

    So I don’t know about the sun going out, not my experience so far in life.

    I feel now, my light will not ever go out, but simply displace.

    I know myself as the sun in my little life.

    The light will move on when it is best to go.

    The kind of freedom that can give an individual is beyond words.

    And power.

    With great power, comes great responsibility.

    You just can smile like you mean it.

    There is madness in my method.

    Interwebs wrote:C. G. Jung defined individuation, the therapeutic goal of analytical psychology belonging to the second half of life, as the process by which a person becomes a psychological individual, a separate indivisible unity or whole, recognizing his innermost uniqueness, and he identified this process with becoming one’s own self or self-realization, which he distinguished from “ego-centeredness” and individualism. The self, the totality of personality and archetype of order, is superordinate to the ego, embracing consciousness and the unconscious; as the center and circumference of the whole psyche, the self is our life’s goal, the most complete expression of individuality. The aim of individuation, equated with the extension of consciousness and the development of personality, is to divest the self of its false wrappings of the persona, the mask the personality uses to confront the world, and the suggestive...

    An individual is naked in the world.

    Mostly maskless.

    One has to keep up appearances less and less.

    This increases your mass and gravity.

    Until you become a white hole, not a black hole!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole

    A separate unity.

    A control node in Indra’s web.

    No one will know this but the white holes.

    This is why we don’t remember.

    We take and absorb in time.

    Time eats memory.

    Scrumptious.

    We don’t naturally give our limitless energy away.

    It takes an implosion to become a white hole.

    That takes gravity.

    Groove is in the heart after all.

    It takes an impossible amount of love focused into a single point.

    This is why I know one does not dissolve back into nothing.

    All this work to create a star 🌟 had a point, you!

    And when you feel it, you know it.

    Not psychosis, fullness.

    Abiding in your unique expression and fullness, is the joy of God.

    That is why you need no muppet to see you.

    God shares your space and state of mind.

    Your joy is infectious.

    I spread this disease now as well.

    It’s more contagious than any virus.

    A man in full is joyful.

    My testimony makes me a witness of God.

    Not a God I could ever have felt and known before, as I feel I do now.

    I am only a witness of love and I have been slain.

    Straight on.

    As I was finishing this post, this came on.

    Go with the flow and just dance.



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    Post by dan Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:57 am

    Can we psychoanalyze fire?  

    Fire is not natural.  

    It has tried to set itself against Nature.  

    Nature has tried to embrace it.  

    Nature uses us to embrace fire 🔥.  

    Nature was unable.  

    To understand fire, we have to understand alchemy.  

    We have to understand the elementals.  

    In embracing fire, we also embrace the Sun 🌞.  

    We invented the Sun to help us create Nature.  

    How did the I Am figure this out?  

    It had something to do with Prometheus.  

    It was the reverse of Prometheus……. we put the fire in the sky 🌌.  

    Who invented the Anthropic Principle?  

    Did the I Am have to invent the Anthropic Principle all by his little lonesome?  

    When did the cosmic schizophrenia decide it needed a Sun 🌞?  

    It decided it needed an external/interpersonal organizing principle.  

    Where did it get all that energy?  

    By pratītyasamutpāda, photosynthesis also works in reverse.  

    The Sun 🌞 and Sunflower 🌻 are pratītyasamutpāda…….. well, it does take three to tango.  

    Yes, the Sun 🌞 and flower 🌺 are in mutual embrace, but they did need a matchmaker.  

    Could the I Am have imagined that?

    She might have needed a little help from her friends.



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    Are you afraid of death?

    Are you afraid of your time running out?

    If so, you can’t shine.

    One must conquer death and the darkness.

    That will always mean you have to face fear.

    We each could be units of mind looking for a solution to fear.

    This is our task.

    Our purpose.

    To shine in the darkness.

    Damn poetic.

    When I contemplate this I am filled with an overwhelming love.

    I could not live in the dull pain of unconsciousness anymore.

    When I see trump and the divisions in the world, it pains me deeply.

    This world hurts.

    Rejection by others hurts.

    When I see Russia and China and the US heading to Armageddon, it hurts.

    You shouldn’t hide or keep your head down.

    Playing small does not suit us.

    I feel nature pushing us to shine.
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:41 am

    Ok,

    We put the Sun in the sky to provoke us to out shine it.

    With nuclear energy, we almost succeeded.  

    But, no, that was too easy.  

    The Cosmos had more in mind.  

    We had bigger fish 🐟 to fry 🍳.  

    All that someone has to do is remove the lid from the simmering pot.  

    Then we’ll get down to our real business.  

    No sort of Disclosure can possibly prepare us for that.  

    Yes, all we have to do is let our little lights shine ✨.  

    The Sun and the Earth are the lid.

    Our souls are simmering inside…… basting in our own juices.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:00 pm

    Doesn’t it seem there is a concerted effort by muppets to keep everyone bottled up and in pain, denying what they feel so deep inside?

    There should be no poverty or hunger.

    We should limit our impact on nature best we can.

    Until the Industrial Age, life was brutal.

    Shorter.

    Europe and China could have a population collapse.

    Men are becoming less fertile.

    People are being born dumber, so some statistics say.

    Uh oh, I might be getting conspiratorial.

    But isn’t all that resistance, not really an invitation?

    To rise to meet this.

    The intelligent seem to swing back and forth between idealism and materialism.

    Who can be the tie breaker?

    They say consciousness is just in the head and an illusion?

    Really?

    It’s our only proof of existence, next to our bodies and nature.

    Is not our entire body involved in consciousness?

    Our skin, blood, nerves, stomach, organs, heart?

    Consciousness is the one fact we have.

    They can’t find a spot in the mind or body that contains consciousness.

    It arises from all the parts working together.

    I think it is a great oversimplification to say consciousness is an illusion.

    It’s like telling physicists to shut up and calculate, ignore the squishy stuff.

    How could we ever unravel and explain our minds?

    So just say it’s an illusion?

    I don’t buy it.

    It is damn mysterious.

    Individuating gives you another perspective.

    Should not all the world be geared to help us all individuate?

    This seems a much better way to spend our effort than Disclosure.

    Disclosure seems somehow to be involved with keeping us all in line and bottled up.

    Perhaps it could help to relieve the inner pressure.

    Follow the money.

    Who loses power if we all wake up?

    Does it have to be a prison and pressure cooker on Earth?

    We couldn’t handle Eden, or did the serpents know we had to wrestle with this?

    I don’t think this is a simulation and meaningless.

    I think this is really happening.

    Does eternity cancel out all meaning?

    With our ability to turn the earth to slag, makes it seem like we are living on borrowed time.

    It seems like a pressing thing to solve.

    Part of me feels it is inevitable we will push that button.

    Some insane muppets will think they can survive it.

    How can we ever stop this train?

    It seems impossible to overcome.

    We shine on given the encroaching darkness.

    We beat it back!

    We know the darkness and light inside ourselves.

    This gives us a unique position in events.

    My Will says go go go.

    This is nature herself living in us.

    Tickling our imagination.

    Pushing, prodding, evolving.
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:17 pm

    Chivo,

    You appear as equal measures of despair and hope.

    You suggest the visitors should take it upon themselves to neutralize our nuclear arms.  

    I suggest that they took care of that long ago.  

    That doesn’t mean that they haven’t allowed the occasional display.  

    I don’t believe that nuclear devices should be any more or less difficult to explain than a bonfire 🔥.  

    Friction can create a fire.  

    What if it couldn’t?  

    Now that would be a problem.  

    Now to explain lightning ⚡?  

    Who ordered that?  

    Well, speaking of psychoanalysis, it did put the fear of God into us.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:25 pm

    I'm a little bit country and a little bit rock and roll.

    We stand in the darkness and the light, right?

    We are all walking impossible contradictions, no?

    I don't have any assurance nukes have been neutralized, but it would be damn nice if that info were true.

    But then the game is up if we knew the stage was set for us.

    We might become eschatologists, egad!

    But I rallied in my post, we push on anyway, despite the apparent darkness.

    I don't know a human being who is 100% sure of anything accept they are conscious.

    Not even Jesus was sure of everything.

    Lightening, how about tornadoes?!

    Nature is an awesome force.

    To live under that threat must be pretty hard for those midwestern folks.

    It takes a lot of pressure to make a diamond, to ignite a sun.

    I don't despair really about anything.

    I do have hope, I don't know why I feel it so strongly, it is natural, like a bubbling spring and evidence of my work.

    Do you hear me making appeals to God?

    Nope, I accept this.

    I don't have hope in fairytales.

    I'm a realist.

    There is example after example of those who faced impossible circumstances, but kept their head anyway and found courage.

    That gives me hope.

    We shine on despite the darkness and threats looming over us.

    What is the alternative, to hide trembling in caves?

    I respect the darkness, I know it in me.

    I am the monster here.

    If we had total assurance, there would be no need for the charade or illusion of choice, right?

    Are you claiming you know for sure what may come?

    I wouldn't believe you if you said yes or anyone if anyone else did.

    I know this, most people are lost in our age.

    Totally, utterly, lost.

    Tossed around like rag dolls.

    One can know themselves, that's all we have.

    We become our own hope.

    I do my small part best I can.

    I'll play my part.

    No complaints here God.

    When the world seems unreal to us, we reach for symbols, but there is no hope that way either.

    "Even a happy life cannot be without a measure of darkness, and the word happy would lose its meaning if it were not balanced by sadness. It is far better take things as they come along with patience and equanimity."

    --Carl Jung

    My hope is balanced by my inner madness and occasional despair.

    "The pessimist complains about the wind;
    the optimist expects it to change;
    the realist adjusts the sails."

    – WILLIAM ARTHUR WARD
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    Post by dan Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:58 pm

    I said the world could end on January second.  

    I’m glad I was wrong.  

    I just don’t think we’re here by accident.

    I’m pretty darn sure about that.  

    Everything else I simply extrapolate from that fact.  

    I don’t know how Darwin could have been so oblivious to the ramifications of his own existence.

    On this score he was totally clueless.  

    Soon we’ll be looking back…….. amazed by his……. by our myopia.  

    That was back in the day of Malthus.  

    So many of us have become amateur Malthusians.  

    I used to be one myself.  

    Heck, my dad was an economist……. talk about dismal sciences💰!

    But then I stopped to wonder about what was really going on.  

    It made no sense.

    It must be a charade of some rather strange sort.  

    There was a choreography.  

    There was a story behind history.  

    We were 10^10 characters in search of an author ✍.

    We didn’t have far to look 👀, did we?  
    ………


    Another thing that’s amazing………

    A lot of countries/people think we can revert to being tribes.

    Heck, original participation was just tribal participation.  

    But, if Chivo’s got one thing right, it’s that our final participation is going to be very different.  

    Ok, there will be tribes on the other side.  

    It is called limbo land.  

    Those will be our staging areas for the assault on the cold 🥶 mountain 🏔……. mount Monadnock.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:17 am

    “Always in motion is the future.” – Yoda

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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:50 pm

    The edits to my typing are from the infected regions of Legions.


    Two posts removed in two weeks. X2

    Xan rhe admin just delete my account from this Covid thought forum? Then change rhe name to edited and ‘’delta post forum?


    Went to mu local library two days ago, all the ufo books were missing from the shelf that normally held many throughout the year

    Either they were  tossed in the trash,(my suggestion) or the awakening grows into more misery once the ai alerts the authorities of who is reading what. Pay attention, to the bar codes! 

    A smart library researcher would just take the book home without checking it out! SILENT HONOR SYSTEM!

    Thank god Lester helped Webb get off, the plane at the French space port. 

    Why would China delete my posts, from an American forum? This makes no sense to edit what I type.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:35 pm

    LV, try to keep up sparky.
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    Post by dan Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:19 pm

    LJ,

    Your posts have never made any sense to me.

    Sorry, I will have to continue to delete them.

    Please start your own thread.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:43 pm

    It sounds like LV is a faulty AI bot.

    Maybe a Chinese bot Wink
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    Post by LIBERTJAVA Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:50 pm

    My posts are edited, by an idiot harassment ai. 

    Blame them. 

    Afterlife research is the new Ufology, with Bob Bigelow? 
    Dan, you only have 5 posters, clinging to The once prestigious Aquarium coattails.   Make room for Liberty.

    Why don’t you offer to drive to my house and gust make a peace offering to the a.i. dragon scammers?


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