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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by GSB Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:04 pm

    THREAT TO FLY PLANE INTO US CAPITOL BUILDING TODAY, and STAR GATE file



    (PRWEB) AUGUST 20, 2005

    911 hijacker Ziad Jarrah may have been identified in the 1980'S by military remote viewers.

    A CIA Star Gate document, based upon input from four military sources, reveals that a pilot with a name similar to "Jerry, Gerard, or Geraldo" will "...fly to Washington D.C. with the mission of crashing into the US Capitol Building."

    The date of the document appears to be prior to the 12th of December, 1983.

    There are two copies of the same document in the CIA Star Gate collection. The Star Gate collection covers more than twenty years of government sponsored research into anomalous mental phenomena (AMP) used by the military for intelligence collection. Remote viewing involves using human sources as psychic spies to acquire intelligence using their minds.

    The two documents of interest (they are nearly identical, except that one is marked "confidential") appear to be from December of 1983. Paul H. Smith's "Reading the Enemy's Mind" tells of special INSCOM remote viewing sessions, held during a RAPT training program at the Monroe Institute in early December, 1983. These sessions were future oriented and tasked the viewers to locate future terrorist attacks in the Washington, D.C. area. [1]    

    The CIA documents are of interest primarily for two reasons:

    There is the prediction of an event:

    An aircraft will "...fly to Washington, D.C. with the mission of crashing into the US Capitol building..."

    There is possible identification of the pilot:

    The pilot, "...not in the country as of 12 Dec 83, foreign, perhaps Iranian, speaks English and perhaps French... Name may be or sound like Jerry, Gerard, or Geraldo..."

    The remaining information, as presented in this document, appears at first glance to be seriously wrong. Starstream has discovered that removal of contextual overlay reveals interesting correlations to 911 events, including the identification of New York and New Jersey.

    The art of remote viewing is far from being an exact science. There is a signal to noise ratio involved, and errors are to be expected. There is the extraordinary distance in spacetime from 1983 to 2001. More importantly, the original data presented by the "four different sources" is not available. What is presented in the available document appears to be an analytical summary and interpretation of raw data provided by the viewers. The methodology used by the viewers is not known.

    Keywords and concepts from the original document can be mapped to the assumed target event of the failed attack against Washington on 9-11-2001. The terrorist pilot of United Flight 93 was Ziad Jarrah (also sometimes spelled Jarrahi), a name that might be considered to "...sound like Jerry Gerard, or Geraldo." Jarrah, a foreigner from Lebanon, was not Iranian, however at least one passenger identified the terrorists on Flight 93 as possibly Iranian. Jarrah was of Middle Eastern origin and spoke both English and French.

    It should be noted that according to the document "This information was produced unofficially and is unconfirmed." This suggests that Monroe Institute sessions may have been involved.

    [1] Paul H. Smith's "Reading the Enemy's Mind":

    Smith writes that he was among the second group of INSCOM people to get RAPT'ed sometime around Dec. 2, 1983. See page 143.

    Thursday Dec. 8th, 1983 Future 15

    Smith writes:

    "...we were to try to perceive events occurring over the next two years."

    INSCOM RAPT Gateway Experience Precognition Session, ~ Dec 9th, 1983

    Page 150-151 tells the story of a special future oriented remote viewing group session at the Monroe Institute.

    Smith mentions being tasked against a specific target:

    "Will there be a terrorist attack against government facilities in the Washington, D.C. area in next few months?"

    "Where will the next terrorist attack take place?"

    "When will the next attack take place?"

    Papers with the impressions were handed in, and according to Smith "...we never heard about it to my recollection."

    Source:

    Starstream Report

    Preliminary Results for CIA STAR GATE Documents:

    CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1900470003-9

    CIA-RDP96-00788ROO1200070002-1

    # # #

    https://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/08/prweb271942.htm


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jan 05, 2021 9:14 pm

    That’s pretty good thar hobbit.

    I feel ya, in a platonic way.

    Yes, Dan has me focused back on Barfield now.

    He cuts right through me.

    I’ve passed Barfield to several of my friends.

    He ripples.

    A wise muppet.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:43 am

    Smelly one,

    Think of shoals of fish, or flocks of birds, they all react in tandem.

    That is field to field ( 4D) communication, and that is what all this nonsense social distancing is all about, they ( the control freaks) do not want humans communicating in this manner, by distancing humans apart they break the flock communication channels, and information upon here is easily controlled ( fact checkers, or tossers)

    Churches were built to uprate that field to field overall field effect, they are located where Dans portals should be, I have been to hundreds checking this out, especially the French cathedrals with labyrinths in them.

    The veils between different memory fields is able to be breached if Your personal field diameter is large enough, most humans are limited and not able to produce such as DMT personally to expand their field diameter, it is akin to a lock and key, the fields geometries need to mesh.

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    Post by Foresaperire Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:03 pm

    hobbit wrote:
    Churches were built to uprate that field to field overall field effect, they are located where Dans portals should be, I have been to hundreds checking this out, especially the French cathedrals with labyrinths in them.  

    Great post Hobbit - in the old days they were typically connected to plasma tubes and require an aquifer below the structure with some type of lodestone below copper/gold plate on the main floor below the dome. Create harmonics and resonate frequencies in the structure and "presto-manifesto"...nowadays this is all done with microwaves and cathodes.

    More on plasma tubes here (the only video on youtube):
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:42 pm

    Has it begun?

    Yes, Princess 👸, it is the beginning of the End.  

    Are you having fun yet?

    Beginning to, Princess 👸!  

    Little chick 🐥’s hat 🧢 is off to foot 🦶 for helping to stage such entertainment.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:24 pm

    I’m having fun.

    This is awesome!

    It’s so smelly!

    I love it!

    Encore!

    Encore!

    I have never felt more peace or calm than this moment.

    Like, it’s like so ok.

    It’s so ok to let it go.

    I have tingles and the chills right now.

    Much love muppetz.
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    Post by Foresaperire Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:44 pm

    dan wrote:
    Has it begun?

    Yes, Princess 👸, it is the beginning of the End.  

    Are you having fun yet?

    Beginning to, Princess 👸!  

    There is no beginning and there is no end. There are only states of being and these exist outside of space and time. Aliyah knows this...
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:52 pm

    Fores,

    You are saying this to Mr Ouroboros.  

    Please, try to follow the bouncing ball.........

    Please, do just a little bit of homework 📚.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:55 pm

    Duh.
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    Post by Foresaperire Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:59 pm

    dan wrote:Fores,

    You are saying this to Mr Ouroboros.  

    Please, try to follow the bouncing ball.........

    Then don't post the obvious - drink your coffee and get off the eggnog old man. Please don't take your eye off the ball or it will hit you in the face.
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:13 pm

    Excuse me, Fores, I have been posting the obvious, BPWH, for the past several decades.

    Please, try to get a clue.
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    Post by Foresaperire Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:21 pm

    dan wrote:Excuse me, Fores, I have been posting the obvious, BPWH, for the past several decades.  

    Please, try to get a clue.  

    *Yawn

    You made the post with the message from Aliyah, not me.  

    I'm a fan of the BPWH - but not of your ego...it dilutes your message and weakens your voice.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:23 pm

    Bahahaha

    We are all just like Dan, even you for.

    We are human beings, imperfect egotistical muppets.

    Don’t pretend you are evolved.

    No one has a message.

    Ha!
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:54 pm

    Fores,

    Would you like to be the spirit of truth?

    Be my guest, but don’t expect little chick 🐥 to roll over and play dead.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:46 pm

    Don’t expect Chivo to ever roll over either.

    What a day!

    Better than the normal lies.

    I’m proud of GA.

    Some people are in big trouble.

    It was always going to end like this.

    No one controls the insane 🍊



    Let it be.

    The 🌎 is sick, but I believe there is always a way through disaster, at least until we burn 🔥 to a crisp in a few billion years. In a way we are being tested with 🔥 We can be stronger, but only together, or it can all fall apart.

    Cy, I feel and hear the sound of ice scraping badly against the hull. I don’t know if we are gonna make it through in one piece. We all come together or the abyss it is.

    Get out your sawzalls!

    Thing is, it’s our choice. There is no prophecy I see. That is a path to nihilism. Let’s try to understand each other. Let’s be honest, after so many lies. The problem is only in our thinking. Let’s not defend a person, an ideology or a faith or none. Let’s put ourselves in each other’s shoes 👞 for awhile. I’m just a dreamer I guess. I dare to imagine things can always improve, but it is always gonna be ups and downs, gutters and strikes.

    Let’s be I love you

    If not now, when? If not us, who? Get up. Find it.

    My ♥ was heavy, but I let it be and now I 🪰 free. Corny, I know. Take er easy dudez.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 am

    When the cats away, those mice 🐁 will play. 

    Mother Mary Came To Me
    On A Dark Cold Night
    During Our Insurrection
    She Came To Me And Whispered
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    Post by 99 Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:51 am

    Just when I think that I've seen it all in terms of the Trump presidency, what happened yesterday really takes the cake. Trump really out did himself on this one and he needs to be promptly arrested, charged and convicted of treason immediately if not sooner.

    Enough is enough!

    GOD SAVE AMERICA!
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    Post by GSB Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:50 am

    Curiously, this from the C/RVing inbox in December:

    Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 6:02 AM

    Donald Trump
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    Post by GSB Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:53 am

    C in C/RV refers to an associative word method of obtaining information on near-future probable events.

    This method resulted in identifying "Wilson" as threat to Obama the day prior to Wilson shouting "you lie!" at Obama  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wilson_(American_politician)


    Generally, repeated word associations in a stream are considered spikes rising from background noise analogous to an emergent conceptual form of stochastic resonance.

    Another analog is the idea of rapid tuning between talk radio stations: if only one or two words come thru per station then much of the stream is random; if there is a major event and all stations are discussing the same topic then word patterns begin to appear in the stream.


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    Post by GSB Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:03 am

    And by the way Mr Ouroboros, what happens when you stop biting your own tale? ;-) I think Don Juan called that "stopping the world" ...

    Stopping the world was don Juan's term for stopping our unconscious participation in this collectively programmed description of reality. Seeing, for don Juan, was not the same as mere looking. It meant perceiving beyond the surface, knowing things at a deeper level.


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    Post by dan Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:09 am

    1310z..........

    It should be quite clear that President Donald Trump is not the cause of our problems, but merely a symptom.  

    The cause of our problem is fake news.  

    The fake news is scientific materialism, and God is its ultimate author.  

    This is because of the logical necessity........ the God of Revelation is necessarily also the God of Concealment.  

    God hides behind the veil of Nature........ where better to hide?  


    1315..........

    Gary,

    Rest assured that the Ouroboros does not have free will...... any more than do you or I.  



    It is the liberals/academics who are the primary purveyors of the cosmic fake news of scientific materialism........ under the guise of secular humanism.  

    A fair number of the intelligentsia are sufficiently intelligent to strongly suspect that they are going to end up on the wrong 😑 side of history........ but what are they going to do about it?  

    Are they going to declare that the little chick 🐥 is Jesus?  

    I’m not holding my breath.  

    Little chick 🐥 is the bringer of the light, and, at the same time, the biggest barrier to that cosmic Truth....... it’s a package 📦 deal, sports 🏀 lovers 💗.

    The intelligentsia will just have to bite their tongues 😛,  and take the quantum leap into the Abyss of the Monad.  

    It won’t be easy........ the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.  


    1650.........

    We, moderns, have lost our grip on any sense of the Truth.

    Truth has been fragmented beyond all recognition.  

    Most squarely, the blame may be placed on scientific materialism.  

    Yes, before science, there was an internecine sectarianism.  

    The notion of historical/material progress gave us a shared vision of prosperity that provided us with a semblance of social order.  

    However, as the possible limits of a purely material progress become more apparent, we become more aware of the fragility of our pragmatically based social cohesion.  

    Our modern common vision of a bountiful future is wearing threadbare, as society becomes more fragmented.  

    Any common sense of who we are and where we’re going has diminished.

    The benefits of society become a zero sum game.  

    Identity politics provide a vestige of a former communal cohesion.  


    1950...........

    What science has striven for is a objective truth that we would all have to agree upon.

    But science ultimately only has access to experimental facts.  

    How about the theory of evolution?  Could evolution not be the Truth?  

    Biological evolution is one of the best supported theories in science.

    The theory marshals together an enormous collection of facts.  


    This marshaling of facts is tantamount to coherence. Yes?

    Well, I’m not disputing the facts of the theory.

    I’m disputing, firstly, the corollary that mutations are random.

    Yes, this comports with standard teleological view....... widely, vehemently condemned by biologists.

    The vehemence correlates with the simple fact of its not being falsifiable.

    Is evolution bottom-up or top-down?

    On the standard, big world cosmology........



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:20 pm

    GSB wrote:And by the way Mr Ouroboros, what happens when you stop biting your own tale? ;-) I think Don Juan called that "stopping the world" ...

    Stopping the world was don Juan's term for stopping our unconscious participation in this collectively programmed description of reality. Seeing, for don Juan, was not the same as mere looking. It meant perceiving beyond the surface, knowing things at a deeper level.

    I covered it quite well, it’s called Final Participation.

    Too bad Dan never figured out, he is free, once he lets the gate down and becomes as a child with his eyes open.

    But he just sticks to the same ole story.

    Sorry, everything changes, get over it, get used to it.

    Your personality keeps your mind in this body.

    Just a bridge.

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    Post by GSB Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:45 pm

    Dan: "Gary, Rest assured that the Ouroboros does not have free will...... any more than do you or I."

    Many worlds flips free will into an address problem: which world is this one that I am experiencing? What happens if I let go of the tale?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:15 pm

    Insurrections happen.

    Some people are guilty of sedition.

    He will try to pardon now.

    Good for the story.

    That more weren’t killed may be good evidence this was more symbolic than anything. Can you imagine if they had been armed?

    This was planned and coordinated with collusion with some of the house and federal turn coats.

    The capital police stood down.

    Why didn’t the aides check on preparations?

    Pelosi told them be ready in force and prepare for the worst.

    Capital police took selfies with them.

    Trump may have assured them it would be peaceful while telling the protesters to combat them.

    The way trump praised the capital police was weird to me.

    They opened doors in videos for them and cleared barriers.

    Giuliani called for combat.

    Trump marched them to the steps.

    They arrested Trump I bet.

    Let me go look up my previous omf prediction.

    I saw this.

    I must know the future, ba!

    So I think it’s a coordinated coup between the groups maybe using Signal app.

    I bet ya I beat left foot’s prediction Wink

    I’ve been seeing how they are now saying it was Antifa because most Trump supporters are shocked and lost and can’t accept the racists among them.

    The wolves slowly mixed in with the herd.

    So they have quietly and I’m sure clumsily replaced many folks to get to this position.

    The Nazis came prepared.

    They coordinated online for months.

    The same Charlottesville crew prob.

    So the confederates have raised an army.

    They have compromised the military and police I bet.

    Many will have to be found and arrested for sedition.

    Why wasn’t the FBI watching and heading off these groups?

    They can’t catch dumb white guys with pipe bombs and guns?

    The spies knew of course.

    NATO is now calling out this vast plot.

    This ain’t over.

    The great reset is under way.

    One may wonder why all so angry?

    Relax.

    Their cause is evil though, why it won’t go anywhere.

    Ok, cool.

    The last gasp of the Bullies.

    Well, I learned how to take care of my share of bullies.

    You stare those assholes down.

    You face them eye to eye.

    You don’t run or turn your back.

    Most of the time they implode.

    Now and then they do the stupid thing and fight.

    They are fairly easy to beat if you can miss the first few punches.

    I did learn a handshake was better than a fight.

    And while all that happens, I’m just in my little goat shack.

    The left should get a little more paranoid with their own conspiracies.

    Then hell, we can have a real civil war.
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    Post by 99 Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:25 am

    One wonders what Biden and his administration will be up against after this recent attack on the Capitol. Will it get to the point where military intervention will be needed to repress all pro-trump mass riots that are interspersed with hard-core paramilitary/hate groups/private militia groups? And what will happen when the military is continuously outnumbered in such confrontations? Will this cause the military to eventually become extinct because those gangs will have replaced it …and the entire government for that matter.

    Of course, contingent with this will be a brain drain (no immigrants allowed in and the ones who are already here will move on to greener pastures) that will render us into a country that’s unable to compete with the rest of the world on just about every level.

    All we will have left is cattle, corn, soybeans… and arrogance.

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