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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by hobbit Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:34 am

    Dan,

    Your detachment is what I have been trying to describe To You.
    But there is more than just the one You.

    The You operating Your vehicle is Your local field, it contains the information relative to You and all You have uploaded to it, and the 300 dictionaries You have uploaded are what the You driving the vehicle needs to dump, there is so much baggage demanding it is right.

    I am a simple uneducated little hobbit, with no belief dictionary or much at all, I actually have really felt for You ( 5D You) it must be like trying to climb a mountain with all those dictionaries on Your back.

    Consciousness is omni present in universe, but the barriers are of indoctrination to enslave us.

    I am most relaxed when fishing, as I am detatched from this crackpot slave prison.

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    Post by hobbit Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:42 am

    Your jesuit followers of Jesus have something correct, as they see god in all things.
    If they were true to their system they would have no baggage at all and so then could be detached from this system to be at one with consciousness.

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    Post by dan Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:13 pm

    2010z.......

    Thank you, hobbit, for your observations.  Yes, there is a fine line between the two extremes of reliance on vocabulary usage, and there are many important distinctions to be drawn.  

    Just because I’m not of the analytical persuasion doesn’t mean I can jettison all distinctions.


    2120.......

    hobbit, I’m not sure how to take the comparison to Mother Shipton.


    So, Truth sits astride a tripod....... logical, ecological and coherence, applying to the inanimate, animate and interpersonal realms, respectively.  

    But the three truths are not of equal weight, ontologically.  

    The interpersonal truth gives rise to the other two.  

    The interpersonal truth derives ultimately from the I Am/Logos Spermatikos/Source.    

    The I Am is the primordial observer.  

    Any observation, to be other than ephemeral, must be made in the context of the Source.  It must be able to cohere with every other observation.  

    The Metanarrative is the essential nexus of coherence.  

    I’m guessing it was the Nevada Kid who showed up early on Friday.  

    I wonder if that near miss will make the Metanarrative.  

    The I Am can exist only in the context of the Metanarrative.  

    I think the word we want is Pratītyasamutpāda/codependent arising.

    Is the I Am also a package 📦 deal?  

    Is there no ontological distinction between the I Am and the Discloser?  

    Well, we do say that Alpha = Omega.  

    The cosmic entanglement is not easy to disentangle...... it was never supposed to be.  


    0200.......

    Every observation must be microcosmic..... it must be a part of the whole.  

    Every observation must include agape, which is the essence of the Logos.  

    All meaning must include felt meaning.  

    This is what is essential in attachment/detachment.  

    You cannot know anything without this cosmic attachment.  

    Detachment is a relative term that includes the mindfulness that opens you to cosmic agape.

    We know nothing if we don't have mindfulness 🧘.

    In as much as we know anything, it is through mindfulness.  

    This is one way to define monism.  

    Is mindfulness only at the core of sapience?

    Is it also at the core of sentience?  I suspect that it is only the former.  

    Animals have access to the monad only through us...... implicitly.  

    You can get to Heaven only through the jguy.  That is how monism works.  This need not be explicit..... but it is always, at least, implicit within sapience...... suffer the children......

    In this context, I commend you to Ravi Zacharias.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:38 pm

    just watched a program of a blind man exploring nidderdale in Yorkshire.
    The river nidd is brownish from the peat it flows from, and has a special smell, it's where I first met a lady called mother Shipton.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mother+shipton%27s+cave+knaresborough&qpvt=mother+shipton%27s+cave+knaresborough&form=IGRE&first=1&scenario=ImageBasicHover


    I have fished the Nidd many times, and just love it.

    mother shipton is in many special locations, and I know You have met Her Dan, it means I can recognise You.

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    Post by dan Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:06 am

    1800z.......

    Responding to a text from Eric/Chivo concerning a koan of Dongshan.........
    You describe the unity of Being.

    This is what we all seek.

    Buddha described how to achieve that, personally.  

    The jguy showed how to achieve that, historically.  

    Well, not quite......

    This was not to be an achievement...... it was simply the prophesied End.  

    That’s all.  


    1900........

    hobbit,

    Some of my best friends are witches.  

    Everyone on this forum has some proclivity in that direction, I dare say.



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    Post by hobbit Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:53 am

    Dan,

    I am not comparing You to a witch.



    mother Shipton is not a witch, it is the goddess of this planet

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    Post by GSB Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:16 am

    Dan, what is your take on foot's "Multiverse (Election Results) Location Uncertainty Problem" (MERLUP) ?


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    Post by dan Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:10 am

    Gary, 

    I’m not aware that foot has a position on the self-location problem (SLP).  

    IMHO, the SLP is a reductio-ad-absurdum for the Multiverse hypothesis.

    If anything, the SLP points to the ontological necessity of sapience when it comes to measurement. 



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    Post by Foot Mann Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:37 pm

    For those who understand the Chronicles, Foot provides a very clear and compelling view on the Multiverse Location Uncertainty Problem, not from the perspective of a problem, but rather from the perspective of the limited and highly vulnerable Small World.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:10 pm

    Enjoy the flight my bees
    We are leaning back into our ease
    Followin tha breeze
    We have cut Trump down at the knees
    His hell has gone cold, now he and his ilk can freeeeeeeeeeeeeze
    Please take the trash out and hand over the keys
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    Post by dan Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:29 am

    1430z.......

    Self location is a real problem, it’s just not a quantum problem.  

    It’s not just a problem with space...... it is particularly a problem with time.  

    The self location problem (SLP) has everything to do with consciousness, and nothing to do with the quantum.  

    The SLP has everything to do with memory, and not just any old memory.  

    It has to do with episodic memory....... eg. where were you when Kennedy was assassinated?

    It has to do with stories and history.  

    It has to do with geography.  

    Above all, it has to do with the Metanarrative.  

    If you are part of the Metanarrative, you have no problem.  

    If you are not part of the Metanarrative, you have a location problem.  

    For the location problem, it’s the difference between being a smart phone and having a smart phone 📱.  

    Do you have the phone, or does the phone have you?  

    The smart phone tells you when and where you are...... it just can’t tell itself...... sorry ☹.  

    Each instance of that knowing becomes part of your personal narrative.  

    And, interpersonally, your narrative becomes part of the Metanarrative.  

    That’s all........ Quantum shmauntum.......

    Will smart phones play a role in the Eschaton?

    You bet your sweet bippy they will!  


    1520.........

    The best possible Metanarrative is all about codependent arising...... pratītyasamutpāda.  

    Pratītyasamutpāda is the shadow of Monadnock....... of the Source/Telos....... the I Am.  

    Trust me when I tell you that the I Am does not have a location problem........ well, it did, once, and that’s why we’re here..... to help the Monad solve its location problem.  


    1620.........

    There is a caveat here....... we’re talking small world.......

    If we don’t have a small world, little chick 🐥 is just talking through his hat 🧢.  


    The biggest news about personalism is that we are all here, now.  

    We may be lost in space and time, but you’d never know that from looking around.  

    The gang is all here..... now!  

    What is the explanation for that?  

    There is no explanation..... except for the phenomenal unity of the global consciousness field.  

    Consciousness is, very decidedly, interpersonal.  

    This is the field of Presence...... the Shining Presence that we all share.  

    Explain that, Kimosabe.  


    2010.......

    Sorry, jofo, your reference to Rowan&Martin went right over my head.  


    Look, ma, we have no zombies 🧟........ everyone is living in the present moment.  

    ..... a seemingly simple fact, but just try to explain it.  

    When we meet someone in the middle of nowhere, it could just be like two ships passing in the the night...... but it never is.  

    Invariably, there is some sort of greeting....... as our two time bubbles merge into one.  

    Like so many miracles in life, we just take it for granted.  

    Our best and brightest physicists have no clue.

    We don’t even know why time appears to flow...... the mere fact that there is a present moment is passing strange.

    On the other side, time can behave very differently, or so I’m told.



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    Post by jofo Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:40 pm

    did chick just reference Rowan & Martin?
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    Post by dan Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:34 am

    1430z.......

    For the best possible world, we have mind over matter.  

    That is just the opposite of what we have all come to believe.  

    But we have to go further........ sorry, there is no matter....... and thus do we avoid the pitfalls of dualism.  

    Only a few philosophers, East and West, have ever subscribed to immaterialism, and that was mostly before the 1800’s.  

    Not only is the world immaterial, it is also tiny...... geocentric in fact..... with a hollow Earth?  Well, not quite, it is a concave Earth.  

    If you’re gonna make a mistake, you might as well make a big one.  

    Instead of trying to explain how mind arose out of matter, we need to explain how matter emerged from mind.  

    It seems to many of us that computers demonstrate exactly how mind arises out of matter.  

    On the other hand, virtual reality could be seen as demonstrating the opposite.  

    To put this another way........ does the hardware create the software, or the software create the hardware?


    1520..........

    Well, let’s be a little cautious with the analogies.......

    From what I hear about the other side, perhaps that is where the software resides.

    It is only relative to the other side, that we might refer to this side as ‘hardware’.

    But, ultimately, everything is in the cosmic mind.

    What is the cosmic mind in?

    Well, all we know now is that there is something rather than nothing...... and somehow that something bootstraps itself into the best possible world....... hard, soft and everything in between.

    Eric points out that our situation is like the Escher print with two hands drawing each other.



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    Post by GSB Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:19 am

    The Mind, the Monad and Stochastic Resonance

    Your stochastic thoughts, Dan? ;-)

    Stochastic resonance (SR) is a phenomenon in which a signal that is normally too weak to be detected by a sensor, can be boosted by adding white noise to the signal, which contains a wide spectrum of frequencies. The frequencies in the white noise corresponding to the original signal's frequencies will resonate with each other, amplifying the original signal while not amplifying the rest of the white noise – thereby increasing the signal-to-noise ratio, which makes the original signal more prominent. Further, the added white noise can be enough to be detectable by the sensor, which can then filter it out to effectively detect the original, previously undetectable signal.

    This phenomenon of boosting undetectable signals by resonating with added white noise extends to many other systems – whether electromagnetic, physical or biological – and is an active area of research.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:38 am

    BAHAHAHAHA

    The King is dead!

    WE THE PEOPLE

    I feel the universe very personally today.

    We are the connections we have to other people.

    We are suchness and thusness.

    When I look at anyone now, I see true nature.

    When they tell me who they are and what they think and feel, I share in that awarensss.

    But I laugh and smile at their confusion.

    There is no problem here.

    There is no fear here.

    There is just THIS.

    Aaron and all, it has been my great pleasure to know and be friends with you.

    Truly, I am the winner.
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    Post by dan Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:43 am

    Ok, sports 🏀 fans 💗!! 

    Ding 🛎 dong ......!!!!!
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:50 am

    The 🐑 and 🐐s have been separated.

    Let us stand together now in our division.

    Forgive and be kind to each other.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:09 am

    I must confess...I do love the smell of napalm in the morning.

    Do you smell that?!

    It smells like...victory.

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    Post by 99 Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:22 am

    Hallelujah!
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    Post by hobbit Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:BAHAHAHAHA

    The King is dead!

    WE THE PEOPLE

    I feel the universe very personally today.

    We are the connections we have to other people.

    We are suchness and thusness.

    When I look at anyone now, I see true nature.

    When they tell me who they are and what they think and feel, I share in that awarensss.

    But I laugh and smile at their confusion.

    There is no problem here.

    There is no fear here.

    There is just THIS.

    Aaron and all, it has been my great pleasure to know and be friends with you.

    Truly, I am the winner.


    I wouldn't count Your chickens just yet.

    I smell a rat in the ballot boxes.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:38 pm

    This is America hobbit.

    It is an imperfect union.

    We don’t burn it down overnight.

    But whatever chaos or order you find, just appearances.

    What really do they mean?

    You don’t know.

    I don’t either.

    I act.

    I speak on a wave.

    I don’t know what will or is happening.

    This happens.

    This is what it appears to be at the end of the day.

    There is no me here.

    We make incremental improvement from where we are.

    We opt to let ideas, not guns speak for us.

    We are imperfect, but we seek to perfect our union.

    The problem isn’t the ballot boxes 🗳

    Can’t you see that?

    I guess not.

    I don’t have to count anything.

    It’s all swirling around this.

    Zero my hero.

    How many stubby hobbit fingers does it take to count to zero?



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    Post by hobbit Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:48 am

    To catch a rat You have to let the rat enter the trap.
    The rat has entered the trap and now scoffs what it thinks is victory.
    The rat will be amazed when it is revealed to all as a thief.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:56 am

    We learn to hold just enough and not grasp.

    You can carry a lot more longer holding what yuh need to than grasping it.

    So whatever you think you understand, yuh don’t.

    If yuh went to name other’s bad deeds, look at your own first.

    This is why I don’t give people who think they know shit anymore.

    This all arises from nothing.

    Now isn’t that something?

    This is...what it is.

    Apes talk
    Apes speak
    Apes see what they want
    Apes are deceived and deceive

    That’s all that is happening.

    You speak about god, you are grasping.

    If yuh have suspicions, grasping.

    So if yuh carry just what yuh need, what are you left holding?

    What do you need?

    What does nothing need?

    Just one way to live at ease with all all this.

    Even trump.

    Even meanies.

    Even goats.

    Even sheep.

    Even wolves.

    Even spooks.

    Even hobbits.

    Be at ease friend.

    Day by day over here.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:45 am

    Is my daimon/will real, it is what is real in me.

    My daimon/will showed me, have no fear.

    There is fear in the world, an illusion, but it isn’t here.

    The louder someone is about externals, the messier their own inner house is.

    I’ve been reaching out to the other.

    That’s why I am public on the interwebs.

    Counter programming.

    I have no proof of Disclosure but myself.

    I have a clear light here.

    And it never will leave me, never has, never will.

    But I love my snakes too.

    “The chief task in life is simply this: to identify and separate matters so that I can say clearly to myself which are externals not under my control, and which have to do with the choices I actually control. Where then do I look for good and evil? Not to uncontrollable externals, but within myself to the choices that are my own…” – Epictetus

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    Post by dan Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:58 am

    1500z........

    foot does not expect donny to go quietly.  donny is going to cut off all funding for the transition team.  He does not expect Joe to ever be certified.  

    The claim is that donny was certified to be the Disclosure President.  joe would not be so certified.

    According to the trumpies, the only election that was not fraudulent, was his election in 2016.  

    All I know is that everything that is happening is part of the best possible Disclosure.  

    As we come into the Endtimes, democracy cannot function without continuing Disclosure.  

    foot claims that donny has been pressing forward with Disclosure all along, it’s just not visible.  I don’t buy this.  

    There are many people who don’t think that the politics can be resolved without a civil war.

    Are some states going to secede from the Union?  Or will armed gangs take over the streets?  

    Will the Republicans be able to successfully contest any transfer of power?


    1700........

    If there is going to be pushback from the loosing party, I believe that it would have to come in the certification process at the State level.  

    But, no, the pushback would more likely come with the SCOTUS.  

    What I mean to say is that the SCOTUS could intervene by the safe harbor date if any State is deemed to be not abiding the given rules and procedures in certifying its electors.  

    The SCOTUS would by the primary resolving agency, not the Congress, in the case of certification.  

    A State Supreme Court might also become involved, but would likely defer to the SCOTUS.  

    At any point in this process, armed gangs/militias could become involved.  

    donny could then declare martial law.  

    It is not clear if the military would would act against the SCOTUS.  

    The POTUS cannot issue direct orders to the military.  Any orders must be relayed down the chain of command.  



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