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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:34 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Topic reminder.......

    We’ll see whether this thread disappears or not......


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:26 pm

    Evil is the cowards path.

    You had a life.

    And evil was the best you could do?

    OK

    It’s just too easy to give in to the darkness.

    What light one has is lost then and the flame is snuffed out.

    I guess if you are going to be evil.

    Be evil all the way.

    The rubber band snaps in both directions.

    But this is my slingshot baby.

    I’m goin all the way.

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    Post by dan Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:18 am

    Poor smelly,

    little chick 🐥 sees that foot has got our goat 🐐.......

    But, please, allow l/c 🐥  to translate the foot 🦶 prints.......

    We have to read between the lines, and that’s putting it....... politely..... we do know how polite our l/c 🐥 can be......!

    And, do keep in mind, that the working hypothesis in the BPW/OMF section is that foot 🦶 is a close advisor to donny, especially concerning portal related matters.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:42 am

    I’m just teasin.

    Foot is a prop as are you.

    Wooden faced stand inz.

    I pretend to know good and evil in our passion play.

    The time must come when the actor must face what they have lived.

    You think anyone gets any reaction really from me?

    Only grinz.

    You can try to wipe it off my face with your wise wooden handz.

    It is all very amusing.

    Life is absurd.

    Through that absurdity is a salvation in a way.

    Remember to wash your handz.

    And play with rubber bandz.

    The time comez to leave the stage.

    To face what we have lived and see it clearly.

    With a knowing grin.

    Then we can die.

    But not yet.

    I have to take my bowz.

    Deprived of eternity.

    We align ourselves with time.

    To just see this clearly is enough.

    There is but one victory and it is eternal.

    There is but one useful action.

    To remake Thyself.

    Flesh is our only certainty.

    Writing here is an absurd act.

    There is one victory and it is eternal.

    But I will never have it.

    So we revolt against the gods.

    Beginning with Prometheus.

    Our demands against fate.

    I can seize this spirit only through its historical footprint.

    That is where I make contact with it.

    I maintain my human absurdity.

    My passion comes together in lucidity.

    Man is his only end.

    To will to be something can only happen in this life.

    Every person has felt like a god in moments, in flashes.

    One can be sure of their strength and live more in those moments.

    All faiths lay claim to the eternal.

    I do not know the eternal.

    The conqueror always fades away.

    Death ends it all.

    It repels us.

    It too must be conquered.

    Some have denounced the illusion of this world.

    Our fate stands before us.

    The most daring among us are the onez who feel thiz.

    I do not judge really.

    I have no moral code to measure against.

    All screenz hide the absurd.

    The prince has no kingdom.

    There is no royalty.

    No princesses or princes.

    Having no hope is not despair.

    We cannot be better but we can be consistent.

    The creator is the most absurd character.

    Behold our absurd creation!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:08 am

    Back to the Disclosure channel...

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:10 am

    To all the muppetz...I see you.



    A SYMPHONY OF ABSURDITY
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:31 am

    Revolting against absurdity is absurd.

    Play any parts you like.

    Mime your reality.

    Creation is the great mime.

    The Big Love, Nature.

    The absurd is the mask over this.

    Even men with no faith have their Mt of Olives.

    We shouldn’t fall asleep.

    It is not a matter of explaining for the absurd man, but one of experiencing and describing.

    Read between dem lines.

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    Post by dan Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:22 am

    Yes,

    smelly got an Absurdometer for Christmas, and, now, the whole world is absurd.

    The little chick 🐥 got a Logometer for Christmas 🎄, and now the chick is able to see meaning everywhere.  

    Which would you rather be....... goat 🐐 or chick 🐥?  

    But let’s get back to foot 🦶........
    Numbers are looking good. The Chicken's natural virus is selectively attacking liberals. Early results indicate liberals are contracting Coronavirus 10 times as often as conservatives. Go Chicken!
    Whose tongue is in whose cheek, we might wonder?

    Understand that foot has been supporting donny since long before either one was gleam in their mother’s eye.  

    This makes donny my half brother....... small world......


    11:30........

    I’m just hoping that we won’t have to drop a leaner, meaner virus.  

    Where would be the joy in that?  So, come on, sports fans, let’s win this one for the chick 🐥.

    t-fish was wondering what should come next.  Do we really have to open a portal for the gray lady?  

    That would be downright pedantic.  

    That may already have been done ✅, and we’re waiting for some other trigger....... some sort of syzygy.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:06 pm

    Strange reflections in the mirror today.

    The archetypes have been here before time.

    The Faultline is no longer buried and the earth shakes...



    Just like the sea I don’t know where to go...

    The witness

    The truth sayer

    The poet

    The medallion

    The poet can feel the scary emotions and not be afraid

    We look into the darkest corners

    We can all do this

    You see the big picture in the little ones

    When you are an animal you lose control hunting for love

    Feed me truth and prayers

    Your body is a garden

    Cared for or forgotten

    Do you really think this doesn’t matter

    It fuckin matters to me



    It’s time to go

    You are infected

    Come as you are

    I guess you are a different kind of human

    You are home

    Let us take you home



    Go go go now, before the door closes again.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:39 pm

    Don’t lose yourselves even though you are a thought in my mind.

    We are the victims of love.

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    Post by hobbit Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:09 pm

    Went out today to local supermarket, had to que in line outside right around car park, shelves half empty, no cash allowed.

    I stood there wondering in this fear filled time if 5g was been installed whilst nobody can see or care?

    If after some weeks they say they have defeated the virus, that several months later they declare a rebound, that vaccines must be taken, that 5 g radiation is ramped up, and mass extermination is undertaken.

    A world government is announced, and money is obsolete, where one must comply, have a chip installed , the internet is closed down.

    Is this the world We created?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:29 pm

    Fear is the portal

    Teacher, what is a human beyond the threshold of fear?

    Witnezzz

    Not victim

    Witnezz of fear

    Not fear

    More and more

    This world fadezzz

    I see beyond it

    Into it

    There iz a strange light

    A sweet dew

    My legz are under me

    They are strong and powerful

    Restlezz

    They want to run

    They want to run with the wolvez



    A human beyond fear...iz kind

    It just iz what it iz

    Thiz wind drivez uz further

    Into the madnezz of the world

    I can feel and hear their final breath

    Nothing can die while we are here

    Nothing can die while we are here

    Nothing can die while we are here

    Nothing can die while we are here

    It doesn’t matter where we come from

    We are home

    We are moonwalkerz

    Daydreamerz

    Dream talkerz

    With no fear

    Your vision is sharp and clear

    Fear is your stead

    With red flame eyez

    And fire hoovez

    It chased you through time

    But now you drive it forward

    Take the running leap

    Strange feelingz on the wind

    You feel that shit

    THIZ iz lit

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    Post by dan Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:13 am

    Per the BPW hypothesis........

    Everything in history and in the future is the best possible thing....... a fortiori.  

    For instance, if donny + corona 👑 virus 🦠 has been the best prescription leading up to Disclosure and the Eschaton, so far, does that mean they will provide the best path going forward?  

    This is the message that chick 🐥 gets from foot 🦶.  


    2:30/ft...........

    Maybe...... maybe not  

    Do we want donny to still be President, when the leaner and meaner virus 🦠 that foot 🦶 is promising comes down the pike?  


    smelly....... Everyone can live in harmony with Nature.......?

    smelly is suggesting that the pandemic 😷 is natural.  

    ‘Nature’ is a very ambiguous word philosophically and ontologically.  

    Either Nature is everything or it is nothing.  Nature has no meaning in the context of personalism....... it is simply the best possible stage for the unfolding of our personal history.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:05 am

    Everyone can live in harmony with nature.

    Even viruses.

    Foot nor his ilk could ever harm me, ever.

    I could care less who is our leader or about Trump.

    You are preaching fear or you are living here.

    Dan awaits other information he thinks he needs.

    I await nothing.

    This is...

    NOW

    NOW

    NOW

    I share the experience of the dance and how it feels.

    That’s all you can honestly do.

    The self centered don’t share anything.

    They consume.
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:04 pm

    smelly........ I could care less who is our leader or about Trump.

    Is smelly suggesting that we should stop having elections?  

    That might happen, as part of the cosmic orchestration, leading up to Disclosure, but I would never advocate it.

    smelly........ Foot nor his ilk could ever harm me, ever........?

    smelly seems to be denying that one person has ever harmed another person.  

    That is either a truism, or it is patently false.  The statement, by itself, contains no information.  

    Presidential ratings rise in a crisis.  donny proves no exception.  

    You cannot bring a lawsuit against a sitting President, but that does not mean that folks will not be suing Fox News for negligent disregard of the public safety.  

    But, golly, foot 🦶 has hitched his apple cart to this President.

    If donny were to go down in flames 🔥, what would happen to the R,A&D show?  


    3:30.............

    smelly suggests philosopher kings.  

    Per my dad........ would it be better to have the Harvard board of Overseers running the world....... or just pick the first twelve names out of the Cambridge telephone directory?  I shouldn’t have to tell you the answer.  

    Chick 🐥 seriously suggests elections by lottery....... it would save us a whole lot of trouble.  One could append a bit of parliamentary deliberation to the lottery.  

    This is pretty much how the jury system works...... to which we entrust our lives.  

    Yes, and would not the jury system be the best way to do Disclosure?  

    Pick twelve folks at random and provide them with whatever may be behind the Coverup.  They could be chosen in a UN sort of context.  

    But this might explain part of what’s happening at OM.  


    4:20..........

    Well, thanks for all the fish 🐟, smelly........

    Chick 🐥 tries not to cry over spilt milk 🥛.  


    Meanwhile, back at the ranch......... would donny not try to take foot 🦶 down with him, when he goes?  

    What would chick 🐥 do without foot 🦶 and Princess 👸?  

    No one would call me on the phone.  How sad Crying or Very sad.  

    I’d have no one’s garden to tend to.  

    Would chick 🐥 be able to throw foot 🦶 under the bus 🚌?  

    Don’t be silly 😝.  

    What about the three visitors and the core story?  

    Can we rewrite history?  

    foot 🦶 and the Princess 👸 can threaten to go back to ShangriLa, and throw away the keys 🔑 to the portal....... thanks for all the fish 🐟.  

    That might be the least likely outcome.  

    foot 🦶 could be hauled up before a Congressional committee...... the trickster clown and the politicians...... wouldn’t that be entertaining?  

    Does donny just have to say........ love I love you my foot 🦶, love me.  It is even conceivable that donny is holding the Princess 👸 a political hostage.  It would explain some of the craziness.  

    Things may only be getting crazier.

    And what about just getting back to business as usual?

    For a global economy that is running on fumes and stretched thinner than a balloon 🎈, that may be a bit of a....... stretch!



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:20 pm

    No more elections.

    10-12 elders can oversee policy.

    It is wise to let the wisest serve the herd.

    The wise will do what needs to be done, and will not seek power.

    They will hold and be a witness of power.

    Local elders would fill in the gaps.

    One may harm my body, but he could never touch me.

    Dan isn’t too good reading between the linez.

    Foot nor his ilk could ever influence the harmony.

    You are with it baby or you’re not.

    He seeks information.

    I have infinite information.

    What he needs is wisdom.

    To feel and know what to do.

    Blind listening to the blind.

    He still doesn’t understand how the harmony flowz.

    He doesn’t practice what he preachez.

    I do.

    He ain’t humble enough to receive anything not from snake lips.

    I have all I need here.

    Dan doesn’t know what he needs.

    So he waits.

    No waiting here Wink

    It is what it is.

    And he listens to morons like Foot and his ilk.

    Not too sharp.

    Some are here and most of us aren’t Wink

    We don’t have to wait, it’s happening.

    It is effortless to dance around Dan.

    Wheeeeee


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:31 pm

    God would know better, so let’s call bullshit on that delusion of the chicken too.

    Nature is perfect as far as we are concerned.

    He and his friends have been exposed and shamed by a smelly goat.

    That’s the harmony.

    Just go with it BITCHES!

    Dan thinks he needs more information.

    Bahahahahahahaha

    Thanks for the pandemic comedy.

    You guys are a riot!

    Those that spy and hide are evil wimps.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:38 pm

    The wise are not at Harvard!

    If so, they are kept in the basement.

    They only pull them out when the evil monkeys fuck everything up.

    Bahahahahahaha

    Your father forged our chains of slavery Dan.

    He did not free men.

    He enslaved them.

    What are you doing?

    You have a great debt to pay due to the great evil your family has inflicted on Earth.

    No one is just a bean counter.

    You are implicated and accused.

    You are with the harmony or you are disharmony.

    Evil and light stick with families.

    You could say it’s partly genetic and epigenetic.

    One generation passes on evil and light to their children.

    If one generation opens the portal the next one can open it further or close it up.

    You can find gold, but you have to DIG.

    You don’t know anything about the real world.

    And you stand right in the middle of it and stomp and shout at the sky.

    The sky heard you and sent you a smelly goat.

    Oh the harmony is beautiful here isn’t it Wink

    Perfect!

    I have to do some work now.

    I was made to do it.

    I do it gladly.

    I am thankful to have work to do.

    Today I will face dumb apes who know no better.

    I abide them with grinnnnnnzzzzzz.

    Toodlez
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:08 pm

    I felt a little more.

    I just heard my tears.

    They say don’t forget us.

    This is what to do now.

    Have a good cry.

    After you let go of fear, you need to let your tears go into the river which flows into the sea.

    Letting the fears and tears go opens the portal wider.

    This is a time of tears.

    In the middle of the flood when your sight is fuzzy, you and the ancestors can see and hear each other.

    The emotions regulate the portal and information flow.

    These are the old wayz reborn here again, growing like mushrooms and flowers in your garden.

    No garden, no portal.

    If you don’t have a garden, you have access to very little info.  

    If you are on a emotional starvation diet, the virus will ravage you.

    If you don’t cultivate the life, you are just waiting for death.

    Each type of mushroom and flower brings more information as you consume them, they consume you.

    Tears bring the emotions to the surface.

    Let them rise up and flood over you.

    Just go in the backyard and let the feelings erupt.

    Watch what comes up.

    Don’t hold yourself back.

    You will know just what to do and all the information will flow out of you.

    Or you can stay bottled up and wait.

    Then later, you will just explode or implode or both.

    Now is the time of tears on earth.

    All we have been feeling and repressing will come up now.

    Fire and earth counter water, but we need this season to let the blood and water flow to bring up what’s needed, what’s been repressed.

    Dan is looking for info from feet.

    Smelly goat is telling you to have a good cry.

    Do as you like.
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    Post by hobbit Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:17 pm

    Dan,

    "Leaner and meaner virus"

    Foot must be a hoot at parties?

    It's hand and glove with 5G, they will be installing a huge amount of 5G transmitters under the cover of this lockdown, with more in the skies also.

    If He knows the future, which he must to be able to declare such , I for one don't believe it's set in stone as such.

    I spent years learning every droplet I could collect about TT Brown ( who had a cat called hobbit) and it became apparent that the craft were time machines, and they operated in time.
    The principle of past time was clear, it was set like concrete, but You can go back and stir the mix as such to make the outcomes as they are, but forward was far more malleable.

    My strange senses tell Me that I have encountered foot before, in another vehicle, and has been many other vehicles in time.

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    Post by dan Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:26 pm

    I have two words for you, hobbit........ utsuro bune........ it’s Japanese.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:41 pm

    Good that some of you already have seen the light of suspending elections. The Chicken had noted years back that this would be needed. Now we have the power to suspend not only elections but Congress as well. Many will object, but they will not last long. Just a Step in Time.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:29 pm

    After you have a good cry...

    Shut it all down.

    All of it.

    No more govt.

    Let’s go back to feudal city states ruled by tyrants.

    Then you can kill all of us with impunity.

    Cancel debt while you are at it.

    And taxes.

    Take all corporation profits to reboot.

    Setup distribution centers for resources.

    Heil Trump.

    Our idiot leader we deserve.

    Run by idiot CIA we also deserve and other letters we can’t care about.

    I bet when foot watches Charlie chaplain’s plea against fascism it makes him puke.

    With no physical life worth living anymore, people will turn to their inner portals in droves.

    But they can’t open them without letting go fear and buried emotions.

    If one doesn’t know this, they have no idea how portals work.

    Sartre though we need one govt.

    He was an idiot with a golden spoon up his ass.

    We have lost our way.

    Honestly, I really don’t care what they do.



    I’ll die fighting.

    I choose the Heroic path.

    Fuck control and authority.

    Truly, this is hell.
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    Post by whoknows Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:51 pm

    I’ve always liked that speech, but I wish he had ended it with “In the name of humanity” rather than democracy.
    Time to think beyond the old ways. That’s the portal.

    may be a difficult birth.

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