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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:09 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Don’t ask how I came across this, it was a coincidance.

    You think you seen UFOs?

    Ha.

    They showed up in the wrong century. An account from 1561, introduced to modernity by Carl Jung in his UFO book.

    "In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. Whatever such signs mean, God alone knows. Although we have seen, shortly one after another, many kinds of signs on the heaven, which are sent to us by the almighty God, to bring us to repentance, we still are, unfortunately, so ungrateful that we despise such high signs and miracles of God. Or we speak of them with ridicule and discard them to the wind, in order that God may send us a frightening punishment on account of our ungratefulness. After all, the God-fearing will by no means discard these signs, but will take it to heart as a warning of their merciful Father in heaven, will mend their lives and faithfully beg God, that He may avert His wrath, including the well-deserved punishment, on us, so that we may temporarily here and perpetually there, live as his children. For it, may God grant us his help, Amen. By Hanns Glaser, letter-painter of Nurnberg."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

    Interesting to read an account of a pre-technology person.

    I’m captivated by this.

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:29 pm

    I'm a little concerned about my friend smelly.

    Don't get too tangled up in the web of entanglements, ya hear me?

    Always keep your sword close at hand, please.

    And watch out for spiders and snakes!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:48 pm

    Child, go your own way, my way is not your way.

    Expand you conscious awareness.

    Good luck, you make ur own.

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:00 pm

    To thine own self be true.

    93

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:33 am

    After all this scratching, clawing and ripping of flesh to bone, still after all this, I’ve barely scratched it.

    I found a disturbing thing out, after reading about Ed Kemper.

    I think my mother was very similar to his.

    She sought to cut you deep to leave her alone and humiliate.

    I was a very very sensitive boy on many levels.

    It destroyed me how she would scream and cuss at me.

    She was so hurt in her life.

    Younger, before her and I went to war, I was terrified by nightmares.

    I would sleep with my little brother.

    When my eyes shut, the monsters came out.

    I don’t understand much of the strange things that occurred.

    Anyway, mothers and sons at war like that, doesn’t end well.

    It leaves marks.

    Deep cuts.

    This can drive a certain type of personality to sociopathy.

    Monsters are made.

    For me it led me to break up with every woman into my 40s.

    Classic case I guess, boy looks for girl not like mom, boy becomes mom and verbally destroys girls, boy runs away thinking no one can know him.

    What a dope Wink

    In my teens Jesus was truly my savior.

    I needed saving from hell, where I lived.

    I couldn’t turn to my little girl molesting father.

    It was quite a rock and a hard place.

    As I saw Jesus descend into me, I heard him.

    The most loving spirit.

    All my mother couldn’t give, he did.

    I clung to him.

    What could I find better?

    I looked around and was like, none of these people get the message.

    My mother seemed to be the farthest from Jesus, I could imagine.

    I hated her of course.

    A son shouldn’t hate their mother.

    A mother shouldn’t hate her children.

    So skip ahead a few decades and I did the last thing I could to end my torment.

    I killed her God dead.

    I splintered my idols into a billion pieces.

    I came to hate our Human conception of God as a total sham.

    I hated God.

    I was angry being lied to by idiots and falling for it.

    I was angry at my self.

    At my sensitive feelings.

    At my flight reflex.

    But you know, the J dude never left me.

    The child awaited me in the depths of the deep deep.

    He kind of sticks to you once you see him.

    I am no longer angry.

    We smoked a joint and had a beer.

    Somehow I know my little personal passion play is connected to the world and whatever here is.

    And I know I have to expose my self with all the cringy parts too.

    Sometime I write things and I’m like I can’t say that.

    But the fire rises and I have no choice really.

    So funny.

    I’m so lazy until I’m not.

    I get it now.

    I know to my Christian friends and family, I failed life.

    They don’t see shades of grey.

    I am an isolated contagion.

    Most Christians can’t live and let live in my experience.

    It’s their way of servitude to Yaweh, or you burn.

    Fuck that bullshitz and any spreading that shit.

    I’m ready for the flamez.

    But I’m sorry to rob death.

    I burned my self up.

    Spontaneous combustion.

    Primed with a lifetime of shit.

    It was quite a fire!

    I take it as work well done to have earned my condemnation and eat it.

    Anger may have seemed to take me into the deep, but really it was a deep deep sadnezz.

    Well, that’s the bitch of living and beauty of it.

    The child comes so many times to us.

    We can’t see it.

    Lao Tzu said what was behind everything was a force just beyond sight.

    He called it the Meaning.

    I like the romantic fantasy that we reflect what never changes in a world of change.

    That all objects have a whole version they imperfectly mirror.

    The stories we can tell ourselves.

    I tell ya.

    This is what it is to live between the flamez and the sky.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:47 pm

    Too many coincidancez to mention.

    The child awaiting the maiden in western culture is the coyote dancing with a star in Native American culture.

    I picked a card from my Native American tarot and it was the coyote as the fool dancing.

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    Post by hobbit Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:51 pm

    By coincidence I logged in as You were posting.

    And by coincidence I found another Dan talking My type of talk.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEBtBTUsQ3E

    especially from around 20 minutes, tree talk.

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    Post by U Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:44 pm

    DANCE MUPPETS DANCE!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:17 am

    Something came from outside the nothing and penetrated into or through it producing the quantum fluctuation of 'Big Bang'.

    A monolithic nothing seems as unlikely as something external to everything effecting it. Obviously this is where the ¿ comes into it and though there are theoretical conclusions that can be reached I cant do the math ... 11 dimensions of quantum gravity eludes me along with the non-relativistic vectors of a binormal line that is at right angles to both the normal and the tangent of a point on a curve and, together with them, forms three cartesian axes ... eek!

    I toy with the old Victorian 19th Century idea of a motion or movement (wave form and/or particles) inherent to the originating nothing that produced everything by and through that movement, rather than the more obvious 'fertilization' of an egg, one element reacting to and with another even if only epicyclic, same for planets orbiting and galaxies expanding in an increasingly warmer universe.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 am

    I’m reading a book about psycadelics looking into how I used them.

    How to change your mind.

    It was a right of passage I chose.

    Maybe I didn’t have a choice really.

    But that state of mind opened my mind up.

    It’s a trip that hasn't ended.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:06 am

    The Abyss is the Alpha and the Omega.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:18 pm

    We live inside a rabbit hole.

    The Alpha gives us immunity from the Omega and the Omega gives us immunity from the Alpha. Together, they make the abyss a dance of life.

    Bless this immunity.


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    Post by dan Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:42 pm

    Interesting...... even I must admit.

    Maybe what we’re going to see is a real time convergence of the many oracles.  

    This might be an optimal form of Disclosure...... totally spontaneous.  

    This should keep smelly happy.

    This would be mega personal...... transpersonal....... interpersonal .....


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:03 pm

    I'm in a situation where I have been brought wide awake and now things just happen.

    Not a care in the world really, why?

    Why sweat anything?

    I'm not happy or sad about this, I am in wonder at its workings.

    I have nothing to prove or anyone I care to prove things to.

    I proved to my self this is reality, in its myriad forms.

    What I have been allowed to experience is enough for me forever Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:35 pm

    Our default mode of consciousness is not the final word, oh no.

    This is just one way to make a world.

    You can see as if you were just born.

    We have settled for such an odd mode of being born out of fear mostly.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:04 pm

    No faith is needed to realize one’s connection.

    Psychedelics sought me out.

    I could have stayed with the UDV.

    They liked my wife and I.

    I enjoyed the sessions up in the Marin highlands.

    I’ll never forget their kindnes.

    It was free.

    So many phds in the group.

    But a spiritist church wasn’t for me.

    It was like a mental snow globe.

    I found freedom from the powerful symbols of a different language of the soul.

    I could have started a group or church, but that’s not my thing.

    I just saw behind my ego.

    Such a tool you can’t imagine.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:13 pm

    Mysticism was the antidote to my childhood fundamentalism.

    I was always a hippie kind of Christian though.

    I met the daimons and was like cool.

    Their minds would shatter.

    But many people I know gave up faith when they experienced their reality
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:25 pm

    I can’t shake this noetic revelation.

    It left me with no doubts that all the strange stuff was meaningful.

    I’d be careful not to be literal.

    So what does all this point to?

    Not a plot, a continuum.

    One I had never been aware of in my default mode mind.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:31 pm

    I have no difficulties or problems to note Dan.

    True, I hold onto no notions.

    Don’t project.

    Listen.
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:39 pm

    I did delete a short post that might better have been on the other thread.......

    My point was that, yes, we do live in a multi dimensional reality, but I focus on this centerpiece that we call the Earth, with its human history.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:42 pm

    Jacked in baby!

    Traveling the Underworld like parmenides himself.

    And no one can stop me.

    I can go as deep as my ability will let me.

    And it turns out, that’s pretty deep.

    This is a freedom I wish I could explain and give away.

    But I’m firmly connected and woven into this time and space.

    Gratitude
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:50 pm

    I don’t doubt your abilities to be multi dimensional, but why not see if you can bring this extra latitude to bear on our consensual Metanarrative, where most of us reside?

    I’m doubting that you have any blogging opportunities in these other dimensions.

    Why not take advantage of this special opportunity?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:51 pm

    I bumped into the sacred.

    I dont need psychedelics.

    I only note their effectiveness.

    This is the world we have visited many times.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:53 pm

    dan wrote:I don’t doubt your abilities to be multi dimensional, but why not see if you can bring this extra latitude to bear on our consensual Metanarrative, where most of us reside.  

    I am, I’m here working it out with you Wink

    This is pure connection requiring no faith.

    I’m not exploring for me.

    I’m exploring humanity.

    That’s what it is to be this.

    To know this now.

    To taste reality and bring that into our connected world.

    Dont you know me by now just a little.

    Shrug.

    Seeing can be a curse.


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    Post by dan Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:57 pm

    Yes, you are......


    Ok, try not to be too impatient with us muppets.

    We have much baggage that you want us to throw down, all at once.

    That is one strategy, but there is also the strategy of maintaining some semblance of continuity as we traverse from the Omega, back to the Alpha.

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