Family in a Fishbowl / Princess + 0 / reality show......

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Here goes Nothing........

The Princess is barely talking to me, and I seem to be holding her kid hostage.......

I guess they’d better send in the SWAT team.  

Just another typical day in the life of the family..... of any microcosmic family........
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Links to the BPWH Glossary's 

The first is to a partial glossary......... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

And at the top of the glossary is the link to one of the several original mnemonic pages, grouped around April of 2016........ https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 . 

Once one has awakened themselves, they enter into an amazing state of mind.

I guess it’s Paradise.

Oh the rivers of shit one swims through to get there, which is always here.

I offer my view as one of hope, not arrogance or self seeking attention, please understand.

I’m playing a game here.

One is baptized into Consciousness.

One who slumbers is and lives as a separate individual.

What you think is true for you.

It can end in psychosis and or megalomania or nihilism, which is total blindness, but once you have made it through the gauntlet, it’s not too bad.

It’s kinda fun to play with shapeshifting.

You don’t even mind living and dying.

Call it what you like, but’s it’s a real state of mind, I like saying it’s the Big Love.

You see clearly what life is and you make it meaningful.

But you also no longer can live for your self.

You see life isn’t politics or silly resource games or dreams of living forever, ha.

You can live with real wisdom and it does change the world living this way. It brings a sweet aroma, beautiful color and has a latent putrid side as well. You are now a flower responding to the sun and blossoming.

You see you are a functioning part of Being, aware to a limited extent and the cosmos, appears to meet your steps of will.

You grow silent.

You rely less and less on the opinions of others to define yourself.

You become a true integrated individual, a shining Star.

Then you teach yourself about values, meaning, focus on the training of the will, the lifting of the heart, and the illumination of the mind.

This is available to anyone.

All you have to do is nothing, just let go and remember.

I would never impinge on another’s suffering or individual being.

But I cannot lie, life has many states and we are invited into Big Love.

The true world appears out of nothing, like a mirage, in Paradise.

It makes our limited world seem like paper, but you find you have paints to paint on that paper and make it what you like.

That’s not so bad now is it?

The second awakening or true Apocalypse or Second Coming is a sacred time in life that our people will come to value and allow to happen naturally.

I make a space for others to realize this as I can.

You find them, 1 by 1.

It’s very simple to know what to do, show them yourself, totally expose yourself, which is who they are.

You both, when truly in the sacred space, will laugh like kids at the amazing connections you find to everything.

That moment with another is really something.

It’s the way the cosmos showed itself to you.

It’s gonna be ok.

Straight on.

Not too shabby there, AB.

Now, just multiply that by 10^10, and we’ll be in Fat City...... Big Love......

Kurds are gone, another yawn, like days of old in another Bonn. Now they reside under grace of Iran, an end like that of old Bataan. Our allies say, oh they must be gay, or do they just turn whichever way they might get pay. No room for Kurds on Disclosure Day, the Chicken must withdraw from evils way. Impeach the Chicken, he ran astry, for he may be needed on Judgment Day.

Impeach the chicken..........?

I guess that donny and the chicken have a shared fate.

Judgement day.........?

Or....... judge not.......

But, yes, some sort of day is drawing nigh.

The New Testament is misquoting Logos in most English translations.

Logos meant the self, not god.

Before Philosophy was born, inscribed on Apollo’s temple was, Know Thyself.

Disclosure is about one thing, Know Thyself, not aliens or gods.

Apollo is very clear on this.

To engage the cosmos, one must turn to themselves and be the best they can be.

It is interesting how ones who awaken just stop most distracting nonsense and know themselves.

The intellect is a game.

Native American cultures use mostly verbs dealing with necessary actions.

In western culture we have nouns because we are dualistic and use ‘The’ to translate verbs to nouns.

This is analogous to the mind observing itself.

Xenophanes said the hole/mind sees and hears and thinks.

Paul invented Christianity and it’s not based on the gospels really.

Paul cut out Greek thought.

I was never a Christian because it was claimed Jesus was resurrected.

It was one thing, love others as yourself, like the golden rule.

I tried it and it works.

That’s the good news I heard.

Greek thought said we are here to discover the self.

The Greek church did not include John’s Armageddon.

Eschatology is based on a misunderstanding of the logos.

End of history or rebirth of self?

This is the evolution of the self.

Each god represents a principle and can take on a form and is personified using metaphor.

The problem or opportunity or setup maybe as I see it is the misunderstanding in the abrahamic traditions.

Do philosophers pray?

Only the folk religions pray, right?

Plato did.

I pray Plato’s prayer, let me have self referential integrity and only have enough to live.

Techne was meant to free man from labor, per Prometheus, not enslave most and enrich a few.

I think the true gospel is the Greek philosophy of the Self.

Through our awareness I feel, we are indeed connected to an intelligible experientially knowable source.

To experiment is to torture nature to reveal her secrets.

Paul claims himself connected to god, but he never quotes the gospel.

Paul never quotes from the Q documents.

You can’t make a religion out of the gospels.

The Greeks were awesome with memory.

The original principles it seems are usurping our misunderstanding religions.

So here is an alternative pagan view of the end.

Hermès was sent by Zeus to determine if mankind should be persisted.

So our minds were clouded to bring out the best from our sifting.

To see what we are made of.

In a world with a Trump, you have a smelly.

Is that enough to justify our existence or doom us?

Perhaps the greys are working for Hermès and Zeus on a grand project?!

No less believable than the Abrahamic misunderstandings.

Jesus said you shall do greater than I.

It is not about Plato and Paul, it’s Socrates and Jesus.

Both maybe misunderstood by their greatest disciples.

I’m with the pagans.

Too many lies introduced into the religious dead texts.

Weeeeeee are the living word.

I’ll trust my gut here.

Thank you, AB,

You have hit on all the major themes of the BPWH.  

Where do we disagree.......?  

No Resurrection? No Omega?

Resurrection and Omega are essentially to the BPWH, IMHO.  

Since these points are essential, allow me to take them to the new thread........ Notes......

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Please share your ‘notes’.

A last entry...

I’m living for no resurrection personally.

I have no end or beginning.

History may suggest such.

Knowing is resurrection.

For I am alive now, reborn in Apollo’s bosom

Instead of saying ‘the’, I say my or our now.

Existentialism is a powerful tool in our post-modern age.

I feel it our best way to approach phenomena, our apparent life.

Obvious, right?

Like duh, we fucked it all up.

We are on trial with no hands on wheel.

We didn’t blow ourselves up yet.

In such a life, to live under threat of destruction is utter lunacy.

But any crazier than appearing here?

Death’s off switch?

WTF are we doing?!

Most of us really have no idea how our world ‘really’ works mostly still.

But we have flashes of genius that keep our show going.

Sigh, to abide it all is too much.

Just keep your nose clean and be ready seems like good advice.

Don’t sweat it.

But why can’t they all see it and lay their money and religious books, including science, and weapons down?!

Why isn’t everyone eating their own tails?

Remove these suits of delusion we wear and come out into Dawn.

I do love that philosophy exists in our chaos.

I am zeroed in on the earliest history I can suss out.

There is a deep pattern I perceive unfolding, self creation.

That’s feeling and being Big Love.

I for one am fortunate to be here and I know it!

I feel to show Apollo I hear him.

I feel him.

I love our gods, the Daimon looms large in my psyche.

I know I must rise to meet it on my mountain.

Emotions are just our outer barrier.

The gods are foundational principles within us.

They allow me to walk amongst our mighty trees of earth.

I clear my mind of delusions everyday.

It felt like I could never empty all water out of our boat.

I was sinking fast.

At a certain point, things just cleared up.

Logos/Consciousness calmed the storm.

We are self-referential and self-organizing and self-replicating.

This is our Ouroboros.

A great model for knowing thyself.

“Helen of Troy laments: "for generations still unborn/we will live in song" (appearing in the song itself).

Self-reference in art is closely related to the concepts of breaking the fourth wall and meta-reference, which often involve self-reference. The short stories of Jorge Luis Borges play with self-reference and related paradoxes in many ways.

Various creation myths invoke self-reference to solve the problem of what created the creator. For example, the Egyptian creation myth has a god swallowing his own semen to create himself. The Ouroboros is a mythical dragon which eats itself.“

Oh our Treachery of Images!

We destroy and create thy self over and over.

Certainly mysterious.

But mystics are mostly liars and self deluded egomaniacs in my experience

Language is hard to use well.

I can’t say I’ve mastered it.

Nor ever will.

But I can take apart most silly arguments against know thyself.

This is true wisdom.

That my ancients felt such a way gives me hope and in a way makes me proud of what humanity is capable of.

I say we are worth life and being.

We must carve ourselves out of a block of stone.

Why does this burn so strongly within me?!

I cannot say.

I am silent.

Shhhhhhhh

AB,

Ok, but what is the self if it is not situated?  

To exist means literally to stand out from something.  It is a foreground that necessitates a background.  

The self alone does not, cannot exist.  

A Creator is nothing without a Creation.

Ultimately, navel gazing is an exercise in bad faith. Selves are necessarily social.

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AtomicBrando wrote:

We must carve ourselves out of a block of stone.

Shhhhhhhh

AB,

Perhaps you too should create your Orphan stone..

Like Carl's at Bolligen..

“I am an orphan, alone: nevertheless I am found everywhere. I am one, but opposed to myself. I am youth and old man at one and the same time. I have known neither father nor mother, because I have had to be fetched out of the deep like a fish, or fell like a white stone from heaven. In woods and mountains I roam, but I am hidden in the innermost soul of man. I am mortal for everyone, yet I am not touched by the cycle of aeons.”

I believe from the emptiness and silence something valuable may come through yours and our hands to share ..


I know virtually nothing of Jung's work, maybe I will read a little bit if I am drawn to, though, I gather he said something akin to not having needed to write the books after he carved the stone..

"It's all there.."


Dan,

I think John Masefield would have been a cheerleader for your BPWH..

Maybe he even may have been a personalist..

Dunno .. shrug...

Like Carl, I sadly know too little of his work, but if it only I had managed to see with the childlike wonder his Box of Delights before now..

Maybe I'm just a bit simplistic and I don't claim to 'know' anything

Just what I sense from being 'here', from life..

But one thing for me is certain, if our mother gives us the winds to sail us all home safely, maybe we can just all play on the same team afterward? Would be nice to do it beforehand.

I would like to play with everyone on the same team.

Much cheaper on the kit makers .. only one required, 'Team Humanity'

no sponsorships or endorsements required..

We have collectively such incredible potential, creativity and beauty to share..

Perhaps someone can answer me who came up with the bright idea of the 'Human race'?

Bet a 5 year old would have been able to correct them and say it's the 'human family'

From The Chronicles: The Princess often needs time to think and relax from her busy schedule. Her staff ensure that she has art supplies from which to create and express her feelings and ideas. Inspired by how atoms of different sizes and electronic configuration are arranged in metamaterials, the Princess began crocheting a warm blanket for Fall. Soon it was complete, and for those who understand the physics, a template of structures from another world.

That Foot Mann guy is a baaaaad dude

Y'all shouldn't listen to him

Oh, you should listen to the idealistic fools.

The old art is mostly forgotten, but not totally.

One will find it if they can see.

If one is caught by a polarity, then that’s what they are.

Idealism and feelings tend to fascism.

That’s what you should be on guard against.

Watch out for the ideologue or becoming one.

Scientism and reductionism is attacking the old art of Philosophy, which is not what we teach today.

One must discover Philosophy and not in a book.

Then you can easily deal with the foots and other ilk lurking on the interwebs.

Then you can fight the best fight you can.

One where you can make the best arguments.

AB,

I would just like to know if you have any clue about the small world, Alpha and Omega and the Metanarrative.  

You might start with the concept of a closed timelike curve (CTC).  

Yes, the world is a social construct....... a construct of all persons..... past, present and future.  

It is called teleology.  The Telos and the Omega are synonymous.

Does this make even the slightest bit of sense to you?  

And, by the way, AB, foot is not the lurker here. Us, muppets, we’re the lurkers.

Can you wrap your head around that?

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Yah, I know all that stuff.

I just don’t have to talk about it.

What I share is straight from nowhere.

They can find it if they find a teacher.

Good luck.

Not many know thyself.

Even ones here on OMF with an inkling, lack the courage to truly engage at the level of reality.

They are scared.

Most are, some of us aren’t.

All you talk about Dan is simply the journey of self mastery.

I can see into those concepts.

I went all the way.

That’s why I can argue about it, but I have no arguments.

I just can think clearly.

Nothing is settled.

If Foot wasn’t a lurker, he’d be here.

But he’s not, cause he missed the beat.

He thinks he or ones like him think they are the center.

Bahahaha

Arrogant fools, idolators, liars, thieves...fun

If I bump into them in the Underworld, I’ll say hello and bow.

Otherwise they are just part of my small world.

I am above or below nothing.

I am center.

If Foot is in contact with the Trump then you are guilty by association Dan.

But keep your enemies closest fits well here.

The end never justifies the means.

That’s the lesson.

Post-truth is pre-fascism!

Our reason is being usurped and I understand better now what I have gotten involved in.

Why I met Plato, The Smelly One.

Why I am now his squire across time.

A standard will be raised up against the deluge.

Trump is just another tin pot dictator of no value or quality, using anti-rationalism and anti-intellectualism under the guise of populism. Don ‘t think Warren can beat that, he’s a natural at it, she’s pretending.

And Fox and Tulsi work for the Russians.

Keep your eye on the ball now, its going to disappear when it merges.

Trump is nothing but a fart, we can easily blow away.

God the stench of that one

Don’t be a matrix Sophist Dan.

I hope you aren’t but who cares if you are, I have you beat ten ways to Sunday anyway

This is easy.

Happy loafin.