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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, 99,

    I think we can safely say that, in this past month, we have come close enough to Disclosure, for all practical purposes.  

    You’re being the mathematician about Disclosure, and I’m being the physicist, and I’ve told this story a few times, already, but it won’t hurt to tell it again.......

    A mathematician and a physicist walk into a bar, and sit on both sides of a very attractive woman.  The mathematician can only ever get halfway closer to the woman, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

    Think of the physicist as Donald Trump, and think of the Boys on the Bus.  

    Donald Trump will be known as the Disclosure President, for having helped to orchestrate what has transpired in the past month, not the least of which was chicken little realizing that, very likely, he was Visitor #1.  

    Will any self respecting ufologist feel satisfied with this, Sonfish, version of Disclosure?  I would seriously doubt it.  However, will any competent historian ever come up with a better peg for Revelation?  I would seriously doubt it.  

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    Post by dan Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:18 pm

    Gary,

    Yes, Tom may not be as dumb as he looks.  Likely he has seen through the veil of the sekret machines.  

    How far away from the core story can anyone be who has hung out in these precincts?
    ........

    Well, Gary,

    The Core secrets concern only digital information.  Very little of the core story is ever digitized except here, in plain text.  

    But, yes, the navy is in deep with elements of the core story.......think of Davy Jone’s locker.  Your darkest secrets have to be hidden in plain sight.   It’s the only place that prying eyes cannot penetrate.


    99,

    What is the rush?

    As long as we can use the core story to stay a step ahead of the next global financial meltdown, we’re doing ok.  

    Such meltdown would be the key Vector to keep track of, going forward.  

    This is where we would have to be concerned about losing donny’s financial charm.  He’s liable to get another four years, on that score.  

    But word may have come down...... that party time is over.  

    There may be no rush, but what are we waiting for?  


    5:15.......

    smelly is quite obsessive about being lied to.  

    The biggest lie is scientific materialism, but it turns out to comprise the crucial chapter of the Metanarrative.  

    Everything besides the Monad is an illusion, and even the Monad itself may be suspect.  

    But we do have something, rather than nothing...... illusory though it may be....... and it is the best possible illusion.  

    smelly keeps pointing out that the our egos are an illusion. I agree, but.......

    If personhood is the engine of Creation, the ego is the caboose, and where would a train be without its caboose...... without its parlor car?

    If you listen to smelly, you would suppose that Creation was a big mistake, and that our smelly goat was the only good/true thing to come out of it.



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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:27 pm

    Unfortunately, whenever Delonge says "soon", what it really means is when "hell freezes over".
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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:35 pm

    From LMH

    https://www.earthfiles.com/2019/06/18/part-1-leaked-15-page-ewd-notes-about-ufos-e-t-s-and-back-engineering-ufo-tech/

    TO: Linda Moulton Howe and Eric Davis
    Re: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 from Linda, Earthfiles

    Hi Linda,

    With regard to the circulating ‘EWD Notes’, all we wish to say is that we have no comment on its authenticity. As we still retain USG security clearances and remain bound by the secrecy oaths we have taken, we believe it is in the best interest of the USG and ourselves not to comment on any documents that purport to describe classified USG programs or information.

    With the best of regards for your sleuthing effort,
    Hal

    Hi, Linda!

    Ditto what Hal wrote in response to your request. Also, I haven’t checked my office phone for voice messages in a long time. So I didn’t hear your voice message.

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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:39 pm

    P.S. Edgar Mitchell did confirm to me the Wilson inquiry.

    Mitchell would later comment:

    Gary, regarding your questions. 1)I know nothing about activities of Thomas
    Drake. 2) Very suspicious of Ingo's claims about black ops and aliens on
    the moon. It is certainly possible and even likely that ETs have had
    operations on and around the moon, but nothing that we (NASA astronauts)
    have seen and reported. 3)I know of quite a few credible stories of ET
    communication with earthlings. 4) I suspect they are walking among us
    (highbreds possibly) and certainly panspermia is plausible hypothesis. 5) I
    question "government secrecy", but believe Eisenhower's warning about the
    "military industrial complex" is more to the point. There seemingly is a
    global cabal trying to keep the wraps on the ET presence for their own
    reasons (profit?), but it is starting to unravel and will likely come apart
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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:53 pm

    Subject: Admiral: Never looked for UFO data



    An article in Jane's Defence Weekly entitled "Pentagon's Hidden Budget"
    by
    defense analyst Bill Sweetman discusses Special Access Programs in great
    detail. http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jidr/jidr000105_01_n.shtml
    Following is a quote from that article.

    An unacknowledged SAP - a black program - is a program which is
    considered
    so sensitive that the fact of its existence is a 'core secret', defined
    in
    USAF regulations as "any item, progress, strategy or element of
    information,
    the compromise of which would result in unrecoverable failure". In other
    words, revealing the existence of a black program would undermine its
    military value.

    The UFO program that the admiral sought would be in this category. Thus
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    law he would be required to deny the existence of such a program. For a
    core
    secret SAP, even a "no comment" would be a breach of security. See also
    http://www.ufoskeptic.org, and in particular the page "On Black Special
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    “Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.”

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    Post by dan Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:11 pm

    Gary,

    Thanks for these addenda items.  

    What strikes me as rather serious is the Congressional follow through.  I’d like to know if there is any partisan aspect to this follow on.

    If, indeed, the Princess is a key player, however, this will present a major conceptual hurdle for any conventional inquiry, going forward.  

    It could well constitute a built in hold for Disclosure.  


    smelly,

    It is the unity of both the individual and collective consciousness that I find to be the most compelling aspect of the putative monism.  This unity takes the whole metaphysical/ontological issue well beyond any question of factuality.  Certainty applies only to externalities, not to the realm of felt meaning.  It’s very hard to doubt our feelings.  

    With the Princess, folks will know that we truly have entered bunny land...... hippity hop, down the bunny lane.

    What an insult to the entire military industrial complex...... to the last two thousand years of the patriarchy...... it was all just boys playing with toys.

    Us, boys, will just have to be brave about it.  I think we’ll survive.  

    And smelly just keeps going on about mistakes....... are there any mistakes in the game of Lila? smelly is the last of the Puritans.

    In octopus land, the females are a hundred times bigger than the males. That fact should tell us something.

    When was the last Puritan scalped by the last Mohican. It might have been my great great grandma.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:19 pm

    GSB/SSR wrote:Dan: "The message is simple........ disturbing."

    Tom DeLonge: "Everyone will know the reality soon, and unfortunately it’s just not something to laugh at. It’s pretty unnerving, with some bad news, some good news, and with that in mind -- all we can do is deal with it honestly and openly."






    The biggest lie is YOU!

    I do what I do 99, I certainly don’t understand being here.

    Let the show continue...

    Anyone who thinks they understand the show I laugh at.

    They simply don’t know the disturbing and wonderful truth!

    Tom doesn’t know anything really.

    Deer in the headlights.

    Driven by a force he can’t possibly understand.

    Laughing fools only allowed here Wink

    What a bunch of dopes wasting their time out there in core story pentagon land.

    I hope they at least took up some new focusing hobby like gardening or photography or painting like Doug.

    Slack on I say.

    You can starve or fast the intellect, disconnecting it from its memory, is this pure intelligence?

    Reason and religion are comforting to the uncomfortable mind.

    Once you have touched this unrestricted intelligence, POW!

    What the hell was that?!

    Again...tongue on wire, POW!

    Stop trying at your life, POW!

    Move away from the shore into the deep water, POW!

    I don’t understand POW, but POW!

    Look into the light, POW!

    Hide in the shadows, chaos pulls you into eddies of mind.

    Stay close to POW!

    Sitting, POW!

    Eating, POW!

    Loving, POW!

    I don’t listen to whisperin voices, I move, POW!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:25 pm

    dan wrote:Gary,

    Yes, Tom may not be as dumb as he looks.  Likely he has seen through the veil of the sekret machines.  

    How far away from the core story can anyone be who has hung out in these precincts?
    ........

    Well, Gary,

    The Core secrets concern only digital information.  Very little of the core story is ever digitized except here, in plain text.  

    But, yes, the navy is in deep with elements of the core story.......think of Davy Jone’s locker.  Your darkest secrets have to be hidden in plain sight.   It’s the only place that prying eyes cannot penetrate.


    99,

    What is the rush?

    As long as we can use the core story to stay a step ahead of the next global financial meltdown, we’re doing ok.  

    Such meltdown would be the key Vector to keep track of, going forward.  

    This is where we would have to be concerned about losing donny’s financial charm.  He’s liable to get another four years, on that score.  

    But word may have come down...... that party time is over.  

    There may be no rush, but what are we waiting for?  


    5:15.......

    smelly is quite obsessive about being lied to.  

    The biggest lie is scientific materialism, but it turns out to comprise the crucial chapter of the Metanarrative.  

    Everything besides the Monad is an illusion, and even the Monad itself may be suspect.  

    But we do have something, rather than nothing...... illusory though it may be....... and it is the best possible illusion.  

    smelly keeps pointing out that the our egos are an illusion.  I agree, but.......

    If personhood is the engine of Creation, the ego is the caboose, and where would a train be without its caboose...... without its parlor car?  

    If you listen to smelly, you would suppose that Creation was a big mistake, and that our smelly goat was the only good/true thing to come out of it.  



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    I’m glad you realize this here Dan, it will save us a lot of arguing Wink

    Only mistake is in your thinking.

    And it’s really only a stop on the Way.

    There are no mistakes.

    There is just what is happening.

    POW!
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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:57 pm

    lol..... Smile
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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:11 pm

    Yes, I sent it back into that vast primordial ocean from whence it came... and belongs.

    Forever. [sniff]
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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:43 pm

    Let me chew on that for awhile Ack. lol
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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:07 pm

    Davis just confirmed to me his and Hal's response to LMH

    Gary:

    I will only confirm the authenticity of Hal's email response to Linda Howe on June 18, 2019 and my response to Hal's response to Linda also on June 18, 2019.

    Regards,

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    We ain’t gettin any younger.

    Who cares who resonates or doesn’t?

    I don’t Wink

    Let it fly 99, POW!

    I can’t stop putting my tongue on the wire, POW!

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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:32 pm

    Feedback on my poem post is appreciated. Ha! Didn't think anyone would even read it. 
    I meant it to be funny, btw but at least you were entertained. 

    It was off-topic so it didn't belong here but I'm sticking to short cute limericks from here on. Smile
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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:51 pm

    GSB/SSR wrote:Davis just confirmed to me his and Hal's response to LMH

    Gary:

    I will only confirm the authenticity of Hal's email response to Linda Howe on June 18, 2019 and my response to Hal's response to Linda also on June 18, 2019.

    Regards,

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    Puthoff's "no comment" speaks for itself. If those doc's were fake, he could have just as well said that but he didn't  

    Great confirmation Gary! It's an important one.


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    Post by 99 Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:42 pm

    GSB/SSR wrote:Davis just confirmed to me his and Hal's response to LMH

    Gary:

    I will only confirm the authenticity of Hal's email response to Linda Howe on June 18, 2019 and my response to Hal's response to Linda also on June 18, 2019.

    Regards,

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    Gary, 
    I'm sure you already know this but Eric Davis actually made a public statement to confirm what Elizondo said on the Tucker Carlson Show about the government's possession of a UFO. 

    Here's what Davis said (in screenshot below from a Post Disclosure World vid) and below that is the video of Elizondo on that show answering Carlson's question about that.
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    Tucker is a real creep.

    I’d like to drop him into an arena of immigrants.

    The modern voice of hatred in America.

    He really likes this UFO story.

    He hates it all.

    Odd bedfellows.

    Guess he figures it’s a way to break the country up.

    Maximize the chaos.

    He’s a much better anarchist than I am.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:37 am

    The core story is that the three visitors are a cosmic sleeper cell.  Who then is Prince Charming?

    There are beings.  What then is the ground of being?  That’s easy.  It’s smelly.  Maybe Aaron will have to be Prince Charming.  As long as it’s not smelly.

    smelly is good at doing Ommmmmm........

    Can you do Ommmmm....... for us, smelly..... please?  

    Ommmmm..... is also the three degree cosmic microwave background.... discovered at Princeton, of course.  

    The Metanarrative is beginning to take shape...... form from no form...... Ommmmm........ all it needed was the core and the kiss/KISS.  

    Isn’t that right, 99?

    Prince Charming must also be the Cosmic Anthropic Observer (CAO)..... the primordial Participator...... Barfield’s Alpha Consciousness.  

    Now, finally, what are we going to do with #unwantedivanka?

    Maybe she should talk to Melania.  

    Obviously, what we have here is a little re-enactment of Creation....... small world....... where the Cosmic Serpent bites its tail...... where the rubber meets the road..... and none too soon......

    What happens when we drop a seed crystal into a supersaturated solution?  Let’s find out, sports fans........

    Anyone for a chrysalis........?  


    9.........

    Tonto, we have three bogeys....... there is a bogey at twelve o’clock..... there is a bogey at four o’clock........ there is a bogey at eight o’clock!  What are we going to do, Tonto?  

    What do you mean...... we...... Kimosabe?  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/06/congress-is-taking-the-ufo-threat-seriously

    Form without form........ https://what-buddha-said.net/library/pdfs/wheeler_law_without_law.pdf



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    Wow, is this weird. She looks like she's "acting" like she's conversing with those in the group and is participating in the conversation... going so far as mimicking the French President's gesticulations...just for the camera. The others are not even acknowledging that she's there but it's clear that they know what she's doing. Rightly so, they are snubbing her BIG TIME.

    This is soooooo strange and very, very surreal.

    She's so delusional with no self-awareness, it just takes my breath away. 

    So these are the people who are running our country now? Lord help us.

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