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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Yes, 99, we have Disclosure......

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    Post by dan Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am

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    Ok, 99,

    I think we can safely say that, in this past month, we have come close enough to Disclosure, for all practical purposes.  

    You’re being the mathematician about Disclosure, and I’m being the physicist, and I’ve told this story a few times, already, but it won’t hurt to tell it again.......

    A mathematician and a physicist walk into a bar, and sit on both sides of a very attractive woman.  The mathematician can only ever get halfway closer to the woman, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

    Think of the physicist as Donald Trump, and think of the Boys on the Bus.  

    Donald Trump will be known as the Disclosure President, for having helped to orchestrate what has transpired in the past month, not the least of which was chicken little realizing that, very likely, he was Visitor #1.  

    Will any self respecting ufologist feel satisfied with this, Sonfish, version of Disclosure?  I would seriously doubt it.  However, will any competent historian ever come up with a better peg for Revelation?  I would seriously doubt it.  

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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:23 am

    Alien Rubble,

    Howdo?


    Thank goodness there's another sane one here.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:36 am

    Very good.

    I did guess he was a Brit.

    Tally-ho pip pip

    I guess he is Boris Johnson.

    Love the hair.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:46 am

    smelly wrote:Very good.

    I did guess he was a Brit.

    Tally-ho pip pip

    I guess he is Boris Johnson.

    Love the hair.

    I don't care if Alien is from Mars...????

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    I like Mars.

    Very red.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:51 am

    smelly wrote:I like Mars.

    Very red.
    https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2BBZqJKcf&id=E9DF2EDD39A77D089C096B3BDA4ABE411EB1F7C0&thid=OIP.-BZqJKcfEKcBALvSw0jsBgHaFj&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2F--KIZmeLbatg%2FTXxpLft9t-I%2FAAAAAAAAENY%2FJE6zQwtoDM8%2Fs1600%2FThe-Flintstones.jpg&exph=377&expw=502&q=alien+rubble&simid=608016266822222710&selectedindex=29&ajaxhist=0&vt=0
    He's green.




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    Post by hobbit Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

    he can perform miracles just like????
    What they call Him????











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    funny hobbitz
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:22 pm

    With Alien Rubble......... the God team will win some and lose some. 

    It would be good to learn from the failures, but usually the failures have no interest in providing feedback.


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    Post by hobbit Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:54 am

    dan wrote:With Alien Rubble......... the God team will win some and lose some. 

    It would be good to learn from the failures, but usually the failures have no interest in providing feedback.


    Any that determine to empower a separate creator are the failures.

    Consciousness is the enabler of all, it is within you and outside you, it is You.

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    Post by Alien Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:52 am

    dan wrote:With Alien Rubble......... the God team will win some and lose some. 

    It would be good to learn from the failures, but usually the failures have no interest in providing feedback.

    Who is a failure? Just because I do not buy into this religious hypocritical rhetoric I am a failure! No, the failures will be the ones standing there when the shit hits the fan praying to a god to save them and they still end up DEAD! WTH!

    You can push this god stuff down some one else's throat that's more gullible than I am. If some of you would stop talking in circles and come down off the Crack you may more sense...
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    Post by Alien Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:55 am

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    dan wrote:With Alien Rubble......... the God team will win some and lose some. 

    It would be good to learn from the failures, but usually the failures have no interest in providing feedback.


    Any that determine to empower a separate creator are the failures.

    Consciousness is the enabler of all, it is within you and outside you, it is You.

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    Post by dan Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:35 am

    Thank you, hobbit.  

    Maybe you could help explain a few things to AR.  

    All we’re trying to do is figure out what sort of world this is, if it’s not just an accident.  

    Science tells us that the world is an accidental object, and that consciousness is just an illusion.  

    Most of us suppose that consciousness comprises an essential aspect of reality.  

    And, furthermore, that sapience comprises an essential aspect of consciousness.  

    It was back in 1975, reading Jack’s little ‘comic’ book, Space, Time and Beyond that I was woken from my slumber of materialism.  

    It was Jack’s book that introduced me to the so-called Anthropic Principle, despite the fact that two of its originators, John Wheeler and Robert Dicke, had been my professors, ten years earlier.  

    The physicists found the AP, with its cosmic coincidences, to be merely an embarrassment.  I found it to be the only thing that had ever made any sense.  

    Wheeler spoke of the Quantum Observer as being a necessary aspect of what he called the Participatory Universe....... no phenomenon is a real phenomenon unless it is observed...... presumably by a (sapient?) observer.  

    This idea of a Participatory Universe raises the fundamental possibility that we and the Universe might have a common Source.  

    The rest of the best possible world hypothesis (BPWH) is history...... 



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    Man! I am out of this fruit cake factory......
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    Post by dan Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:15 am

    AP sounds like a One Note Johnny.  

    However, if he managed to find his way here, he probably has some sort of smarts.  

    He is being very defensive about being associated with anything outside the norm, whatever that might be.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:03 am

    Alien Rubble wrote:Man! I am out of this fruit cake factory......

    Good!

    I like fruit cake with cold milk my self.

    More for me.

    I love cold milk with anything.

    You know who you sound like AR, just like Alice in Wonderland.

    Maybe you found Wonderland.
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    Post by hobbit Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:46 am

    Alien Rubble wrote:Man! I am out of this fruit cake factory......


    Oh...come on Barny Rubble, don't run away so easily.

    It takes a variety of ingredients to bake a good fruitcake.






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