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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

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    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Sounds fun.
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:07 pm

    See, Aaron....... I knew smelly would be a good sport about it........


    Our gifts to entice smelly are an art set for beginners, and Poetry for Dummies........ it will be hard to pass those up.



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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:15 pm

    Hey, Aaron, you’re not the only one who doesn’t know what’s going on...... we’re just going with the flow........  row, row our boats gently down the stream.......

    And, there’s no pressure, we just have Doug and the New York Times breathing down our necks.......


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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:23 pm

    See, and we didn’t need any gifts....... smelly/el Nino had already agreed to come along for the ride.

    I guess this can be like one of those movies with flash forwards and flash backs.  

    And we already know that it’s going to be the greatest story ever told...... no sweat..... it just writes itself.  

    We can even have smelly being dragged to Sunday School every week until he finally rebels, and starts turning over the tables of the money changers...... but maybe that comes later.  

    And we three kings turn out to be two kings and princess...... keeping things up to date.  Aaron can play the part of foot, if likes.  And one of the visitors turns out to be a scribe.  

    And the Princess is bringing a portal for smelly to play with, even though I warned her that she would just be bringing coals to Newcastle.  

    You see, sports fans, this is definitely a free form operation. This is in no way a linear narrative....... it’s a Metanarrative.

    Anyway, if you don’t mind, too much, I’d like to take a little creativity break, and see what suggestions any of you might have.

    You can dream up how the Princess met the king. I just heard that it was something about a cat getting stuck in tree....... this is another version, as told by their matchmaker in cheetah land.

    And so on.......



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:42 pm

    I’m here.

    I can speculate if Dan asks me too.

    But he gets there is nothing to do.

    So these are tales of nowhere about nothing lived by no one.

    We may not remember our faces before we were born, but we know here, we had a mother and father.

    I’ll say for my self I accept this.

    I was born.

    I have parents, virtual they may be.

    We can say this about any of us here.

    Where Dan and I get in trouble is where he starts up on the Princess and the Millenia.

    But it’s not my job to do anything about it as far as I know Wink

    I offered to leave several times if I’m not adding anything to his story, but Dan says he doesn’t want that.

    Ok, we are stuck with each other.

    I offered if the Princess has something to say, let her say it.

    Maybe he will get to that maybe not.

    I think we can agree this tic tac situation establishes a few things.

    We have a possible threat acting in provocative ways.

    The locals may become irritated by this.

    Incredibly this story was mostly ignored.

    Ok, so what would one do with the knowledge of an object appearing we can’t explain.

    How about if you saw it?

    My question to Dan about this was who is allowing these ex govt types to share unknown data with us.

    He says no one really.

    But how could that be?

    Govt dysfunction happens, but why would they have not been silenced if rogue?

    I still think that’s a curious thing.

    I don’t trust secrets.

    I don’t trust the tellers or keepers of them.

    Hell, I barely trust my self at this point.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:50 pm

    Dan wrote:coals to Newcastle

    Not many use this expression here in the US.

    As a matter of fact, Dan is the first American, if he is, I ever heard say this.

    Just noting.

    I knew what he meant, unnecessary, still, that’s a funny way to say it.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:51 pm

    Yes Ack, we are clowning.

    An ancient art.

    Clowning might have showed up even before Logos.

    But clowns have been with us since we began writing things down.

    I think the Shaman may have been the early source.

    Clowns can go and do what most others can’t and won’t.
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:59 pm

    Yes, smelly is jumping ahead a bit...... but that is perfectly alright.  

    I hope that we will have plenty of sidebars.  

    And folks always want to know who’s in charge.  Nobody, because this is the best possible story ever told, and if it is, it’s already been written in the stars.   We just helping connect a few dots..... listening to the harmony of the spheres.  


    smelly,

    Coals to Newcastle......... it’s not really about geography...... I’m just showing my age, again......

    And, yes, we might love the Princess to show up at OM, but I wouldn’t hold my breath....... remember, the whole point of this is that we’re _not_ waiting for Godot.


    I’m remembering....... the prince and princess didn’t actually meet on the Earth...... really they met in cheetah land....... where the princess and my goddaughter were actually sisters, so k was just arranging for a blind date...... so she might have counseled her sister to pretend to be stuck up in a tree....... and then there was a re-enactment down here..... you see how convoluted we can make this..... we just have to use our imaginations.  

    And we already know the ending....... everyone lives happily ever after, unless you think that’s too boring.  

    And what does this have to do with the tic tacs.......?

    It’s something about not being able to fly the craft without the critter...... and guess who the critter is, and who brought which gifts to the White House?  Did someone bring a wishing well to the White House?  

    And how does any of this tie in with Bethlehem or Medina or Lumbini......?  


    6:30.........

    We know about the Princess coming down, with her pod rolling off a mountain into lac Ledoc, and being taken to the Palace, or something like that, and then a feud breaking out between the royal families.  

    About the Utsuro Bune incident.........

    We can delve into mythology for all kinds of side stories.  

    We also have the three books...... red, blue and yellow.  

    We can wonder what sort of a role mj12 played in all this, and what were the historical, scriptural antecedents.  

    We’re never going to find a hard and fast line between fact and fiction.  



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    Post by 99 Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:20 pm

    What I think is amazing Dan is that both you and Ron knew the Wilson story and its veracity yet all along kept quiet about it. You certainly made quite a team... I must say.


    Tell me dan, why didn't you want the American people and the world to know the truth? Why did you collaborate for over 30 years with the gov't in the suppression of UFO information and the veracity of the fact that the US was back engineering a UFO?

    At any rate, there's never been any question about what side you were on in this issue.... your position as Ron's PR guy speaks for itself.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:42 pm

    Yes, was the delay to see if we could make use of tech that feel into our hands?

    I'll play along.

    If something fell into our hands, it wanted to.

    If the Princess was the critter, wouldn't she be surrounded by a division of the army at all times?

    Do you guys remember the movie Arrival recently?

    Plenty have claimed aliens live and breed among us, something I never could begin to approach my self.

    Perhaps we are of the critter.

    Arrival movie scenario is what might happen if they or we just showed up.


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    Post by 99 Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:43 pm

    Your claim to fame is your association with Ron and the gov't Dan. I guess you figured that UFO Disclosure was never going to happen in your lifetime but, as we can see, that turned out not to be the case at all.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:52 pm

    Perhaps the known Princesas is just a cover.

    Of course she is a cover for another, the One.

    As are we all.
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:52 pm

    99 and smelly,

    God is in charge of every last detail, and I am, for the sake of argument, pretending to be God, so, ok, I’ll make something up........ anybody could play this game, and eventually everyone will......... May the best story win......

    an army protecting the Princess .......?

    Well, let me tell you, she has a lot better protection than God/dan does.  You had all four of us flying in a rickety little plane over glaciers in Alaska.  Ron was having a conniption, and we were having a ball, with Princess flying shotgun next to the pilot.  

    At one point the Princess was doing billion dollar real estate deals in Dubai and barely missed a hotel bombing.  

    As smelly would admonish, we can’t think about this like muppets..... que sera, sera...... it’s either written in the stars, or it’s all a joke.  Was it smelly who asked this......?  of all people...... shame on you, smelly......



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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:11 pm

    Ack,

    Don’t you know that we’re always reinventing ourselves....... our lives.

    Why should that change......? It won’t.
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    Post by 99 Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:13 pm

    We know what you're doing Dan now on this forum with this "game" that you just set up.... very clever... but silly. But I would strongly suggest that you promptly retire from any public venue for your own safety and well being... If you don''t do this for yourself, then do it for your family.

    You're playing with fire and you know it.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:17 pm

    Life is new every moment.

    Why would you be concerned for a clown Ack?

    That's wasted worry.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:18 pm

    99 has taken on an ominous tone.

    I had suggested Dan retire several times.

    But he will have none of it.

    This dude Dan doesn't stop.

    He has one setting.

    Straight on.

    Who am I to tell anyone to sit down and shut up?!


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    Post by 99 Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:19 pm

    There are a lot of very unstable people in the UFO community Dan. You need to keep a low profile now instead of doing anything to attract attention. Retiring from this forum would be a step in the right direction.
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    Post by dan Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:20 pm

    99,

    I’m an old man, with two serious strokes, and I’m having the time of my life.

    Our best cover is going to be to open the spigots.  

    In the larger scheme, I’ll be just a guy hanging out with a smelly goat.  smelly is everyone’s best cover. With smelly, who needs an army...... all the would be assassins die laughing.

    But back to your timing question, 99..........

    Yes, timing is absolutely critical........

    We just get to the point where half the folks think we’re too late, and the other half thinks we’re too early.  It’s that simple.



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