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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:54 am

    See, ack,

    I told you, as you begin to bring smelly around, everything else will come along, in its own sweet time.

    It was almost too late for me to bring the b guy onboard...... just in the nick of time, hopefully.

    Ok, if smelly wants to be really stubborn, we can say that we are moving the Monadnock to smelly....... it might even be true, for all I know.

    The b guy can be the old man in the mountain. How’s that, sports fans?



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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:58 am

    Well blow me down, somehow I had a hunch there'd be a new guy coming on board soon if not sooner! How exciting!
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:02 am

    If the b guy makes you happy, 99, then we’re as good as gold.
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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:07 am

    Oh boy! Can't wait Dan! Smile
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:18 am

    I’m a little bit cautious about going the route of Hinduism....... things got a little top heavy.  

    How many is a crowd?  But is this some kind of exclusivism?  

    A tribunal, maybe....... a mount Olympus...... a committee...... I don’t think so.

    Too many cooks spoil the broth.  

    Too many chiefs, not enough indians.  

    Monadnock is not mount Olympus, is it.

    The b guy can be at the summit in splendid isolation.......

    The rest of us are slaving over a hot stove in the galley.

    smelly can join the empty heads at the summit, only if he insists.

    There is always more room with Max Headroom..... lebens raum.



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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:00 am

    I hasten to point out that the video of Grant’s that 99 just posted in another section, is one that dates back to 12/17.  But nothing much happened publicly until the second shoe dropped last month, 5/19.  

    It too early to see if progress has been made.  It all depends on how we interpret the Disavowal.


    Ack,

    Mt Monadnock was the mountain I could see from my back porch.  The Monad is in everything.  It is everything....... visible and invisible.

    Pantheism can be interpreted as one form of Monism...... the most dilute form.  

    And, yes, we can all be floating in smelly’s cloud.  

    And smelly says....... hey, you, get off of my cloud.  


    11:20........

    It is only the t guy who can bring the j&b guys together, I hasten to point out.  

    It is ironic that it is the anti person/history, b guy, gets to personify the abyss in history.  

    We should dedicate this to smelly.........

    Don’t know much about history........
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    Oh, dear does wk think that chicken little is a bully.....?  

    I guess I’d better clean up my act.  

    My role model is Al Haig...... I’m just a take charge kinda guy.

    Before Ron Disavowed me, I was in charge. Maybe Kevin is in charge. Kevin likes to keep his cards close to his vest. Me.......? If in doubt, put it out.



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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:07 am

    Monadnock?

    More like...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monadnock_Lifetime_Products

    Nothing like a new belief system that wants to abuse people into line.

    That's the thing about Love being the logos, it's not a bully.

    Check on what the French priest did to the people of Oceania. Really anywhere any of them have gone they were bully's and murders... You may think you are not like them but you really need to take another hard long look.

    You seem to be the antitheses of Logos to me.

    I along with others do not have a fixed belief system so it seems pretty clear to me, being on the outside looking in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_In#/media/File:Looking_In_-_Savoy_Brown.jpg
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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:40 am

    Ack wrote:Still, even then, not so much a bully as is taking charge when necessary...

    That's what all tyrants say.

    Look up the history of Tahiti, Look at what the religionist did and the consequence of there actions. You can see it all across the world and really doesn't matter which belief system you look at, they cause more havoc in the end than not.
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:44 am

    Well, wk,

    Where do you fit on the spectrum of belief?

    Or would you like to join smelly on top of Monadnock?
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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:50 am

    Dan, my foundation has and always will be Love.

    It is all inclusive and unconditional. All information that comes my way goes through that filter.

    And another thing... Time to go back to basics I think. These to me are just words of wisdom and have been repeated throughout many cultures for a very long time.

    "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."

    Religion is not evil it's own right all great thoughts can be twisted till they are unrecognizable and evil though.


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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:03 am

    Ack wrote:What is love?

    Is this a test and who is it for Ack? You need to find these answers on your own.
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:04 am

    I often say that love is the ultimate truth.

    But........ does love direct traffic?

    Who’s gonna be the traffic cop?
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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:09 am

    Dan wrote:But........ does love direct traffic?

    Who’s gonna be the traffic cop?

    Yes it does, and it needs no cop to enforce it if it real... And that is for the holder to decide.

    It is an evolutionary/learning process. The hardest part is to learn to Love ones self.
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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:16 am

    Ack wrote:No test wk. What are we doing here on this forum if not to have a discussion on such topics?

    Hmmm LOL

    We do have a hard time seeing our real selves at times do we not Ack?

    Be true to your self most of all Ack.
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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:20 am

    Ack wrote:And with that I guess I can run away with the Princess to ShangriLa....

    Don't be in to much a hurry.

    I don't think we are that far away from the MoAPS!
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:37 am

    wk,

    And which MoAPS are you waiting for?

    I thought there was only one.

    Me....? I’m waiting for goddot......
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    Post by whoknows Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:52 am

    I probably shouldn't have used that acronym, but then it's may just be as good as any other. Though it does seem to be collecting a lot of baggage.

    I try to resist labeling and putting everything in nice neat little boxes.

    I am definitely not omniscient, but, I do try and keep and open mind.

    As long as it's based on love. Wink

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