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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 2:06 pm

    Nothing needs saving.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 2:10 pm

    smelly,

    So who saved your sorry ass?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 2:27 pm

    That’s not provable.

    This is a Buddhist idea based on Buddha’s invented idea.

    We are not special.

    You can’t say if monkeys aren’t here, no here.

    If Awareness was not aware of here, no here, is how I might say it.

    We are entangled.

    But you can’t go any further than that.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 3:06 pm

    smelly,

    Ack is correct, it requires sapience to designate a ‘here’.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 4:27 pm

    There is no one here to catch up with.

    We both are alive.

    My practice involves letting go of preconceptions, religious abstractions and symbolic delusions, the use of symbols is dropped whenever possible.

    A flower may be said to represent all flowers, but its identity as a flower is not an abstraction.

    If we were to remove all the non-flower elements from the flower, there would be no flower left. A flower cannot be here alone. A flower can only inter-be with all of us, same for persons.

    If the world was filled only with flowers, I speculate the world would still be here.

    You don't know how flowers and Awareness are entangled here.

    You just see them appear.

    What appearance is greater than another?

    The meaning of living is very very simple.

    To live.

    If there is entanglement, I think there is cosmos.

    Persons are just one rung.

    When you attach your thinking to things, you are deluded.

    Ignoring what is real and attaching to what is unreal is the source of suffering.

    "Care not about what others think. Care not about your “position" in the game of life. There is nothing to be gained, nor is there anything to be lost."

    “How utterly dependent is the personality of man and how indifferent is its world.”

    —Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

    Whatever shows itself within this vast, open space of intimate knowingness that you are is just a visitor. So, welcome and accept each thing that appears within your presence—every thought, emotion, and physical sensation—knowing that all things are harmless. Just allow them each to flow through your silent and empty consciousness, without resistance.

    All things pass through awareness, but none can ever remain. This is self-evident. Despite all things that seem to come and go, nothing remains—nothing but you. Your presence allows everything to be perceived, without which, nothing could be known.

    Awareness can hold onto nothing, despite the mind's best attempts to keep something alive within its mental grasp. Any effort to sustain any experience, sensation, or thing will prove to be a detriment to one's mental well-being, because you cannot keep that which does not exist. To attempt to do so will only result in suffering.

    If you attempt to separate one mental impression from all the rest by isolating it and focussing the energy of your attention on it, you unknowingly identify yourself by your estimated relativity to it. If you trust the thoughts appear to you through this emotional attachment, then without further inquiry into the thought's true nature their concepts will seem real.

    Another word for this activity of the mind is ignorance.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 4:35 pm

    The only way to catch me is to see through your ignorance.

    Good luck.
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 5:30 pm

    Ack,

    I think smelly is losing his marbles.  I’m referring especially to his post #335, above.  

    The post is riddled with contradictions, and he has forgotten his Barfield.

    If smelly has a usefulness here, it is to provide cover for you and me.

    He is probably smoking.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 5:31 pm

    Ha, not even close pretender ack sack.

    No walking on water possible or needed.

    Try again.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 5:33 pm

    Relying on appearances is delusion.

    Muppet tell, all they do is talk about appearances
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    Post by dan Thu May 30, 2019 5:36 pm

    You are making no sense, smelly.  You’d better drop that joint.


    I was updated by my alternate source.  Things are moving faster.  My a/S says that the most likely path to Disclosure is to roll out a secret machine.  I’m sticking with portals.  The source has to play down the portal option.  That’s the main reason I had to be thrown under the bus.


    Now smelly is even turning against the small world hypothesis (SWH). Someone or something has gotten to him. He’s doing a big flip flop.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 5:41 pm

    Says the religious grand pa.

    I don’t need a joint to handle you old man.

    Persons and the SWH are nonsense.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 5:51 pm

    Your minds are full of nonsense words and concepts.

    You are being unreal.

    I don’t have any idea what you are saying.

    Now we are all confused.

    Perfect.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 6:00 pm

    You guys are muppet narcissists.

    With severe delusions of grandeur.

    But you know this.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 6:25 pm

    The body is not interested in what you think, neither am
    I really.

    You can brush aside truth, happiness, pleasure, goals, seeking.

    We are creations of culture mostly.

    Philosophy has nothing to offer us.

    Mental masturbation.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 30, 2019 6:38 pm

    Our reference points aren’t the same.

    I am not playing the knowledge game.

    I’m an illiterate really.

    We can’t understand each other in this mode.

    I went where I was pointed.

    I have nothing to say really.

    I don’t know a thing about life.

    We don’t even know if we are dead or alive.

    We know what we have been told.

    What is life?

    We put ourselves on the top.

    Just energy.

    I don’t know what a soul is.

    I don’t know what talking is.

    Sometimes you think you understand?

    Impossible.

    We don’t need to share these words any longer.

    Words and thoughts have nothing to do with being.

    We are selfish to our core.

    Thought is time.

    We can’t accept acausal existence.

    There is no way out of your minds.

    Going faster is not progress.

    Nice to meet you all...toodles.
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