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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed May 22, 2019 4:08 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, sports fans.........

    Before we ask ourselves any other questions........

    Here is the #1 priority question........

    Who the heck do we think we are?  

    I’m not aware that this question has ever been seriously asked before.  The only precedent of which I’m aware is when it was simply posed by Paul Gauguin.  

    I would not pose this question unless I thought I had the rudiments of an answer.  I’m seeking help from anyone who would be willing to participate in fleshing out the answer.  
    ..........

    (The continuation of this ‘topic post’ is the no. 3 post (on the first page https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t361-who-do-we-think-we-are ) of this topic.....)


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    Post by dan Tue May 28, 2019 2:08 pm

    smelly is simply a solipsist who is pretending to be our best friend.

    A solipsist is the very epitome of a Demiurge, which characterization he readily accepts.

    It has only taken me three years to figure this out. The Lord knew that this punishment would be just what the Doctor ordered.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue May 28, 2019 3:16 pm

    Bahahaha

    You can take all the ‘ists’ and ‘isms’ in the Oxford dictionary and roll them up and smoke em, sprinkle some Wikipedia kief on that doobie.

    **Puff Puff Pass**

    And some monkey wrote that Ack sack.

    You never were too bright.

    Don’t try now reading those big words.

    Enjoy your delusions.

    Hopefully they won’t disrupt your lives too much.

    But delusions are slippery things.

    Your thoughts betray you.

    I’m clouds.


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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue May 28, 2019 4:13 pm

    Ack,

    John 3:16 is actually the only bible verse I know by heart. Interesting though when I ponder the words now..

    It used to be written in large scale on the side of a farmers barn not far from Belfast.

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    Post by 99 Tue May 28, 2019 4:35 pm

    "Where does Ron sit on the Disclosure food chain?" ~ dan

    Over the years, many have wondered why our gov't would have people like RP analyzing online ufo forums. The consensus always seemed to be that they were doing that to study human behavior within the context of the general UFO story and those fabricated ones by either the gov't or crafty grifter deceptors who try to profit from their lies.
     
    But the head scratcher for me, as far a RP goes is that he's an engineer, not a psychologist. This said, it never made sense to me why an engineer/scientist would be assigned by the CIA or any other alphabet agency to specifically study human behavior and the spread of online memes and so on in any context because RP and those other "scientists" who are like him simply are not qualified to do so. Human behavior, group behavior and so on falls into the soft sciences like psychology, sociology, anthropology and so on... and various multi-disciplinary fields like neurology, for example... but not engineering. lol
     
    So whatever he's been doing, it's got to do with something having to do with technology. I'll leave it there for now because my current concern is that all of this noise about what's coming from the Pentagon and the Navy and their pilots encountering UFOs is a mass deception. It's not slow disclosure as many are saying and it is instead an effort to convince our enemies that the US possesses advanced technology that we will not hesitate to use to defeat them should want to go to war with us.
     
    What our gov't is doing now is amping up a psychological war against our enemies and these fake disclosure reports from the Pentagon and the Navy is all just part of that effort. Same with Trumps new Space Force.


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    Post by 99 Tue May 28, 2019 5:10 pm

    Right! Though things can get a little murky here, Dan and everyone else here at least has a clear-eyed view on the real story. Thanks Ack!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue May 28, 2019 5:34 pm

    I don’t go anywhere.

    I am here.

    I don’t care what the rest of the muppets do really.

    Their lives, their time.

    If society collapsed, sun still rises.

    I mean it would suck to lose our comforts.

    If you are going to live, I like doing so with the least effort.

    I don’t have to listen to anyone or teach anything or be anything or go anywhere other than being this here.

    Some of us know this to our marrow and we have found an ease to living.

    Others have to use their minds as crutches because they can’t live in their hearts.

    It hurts them too much, so they invent fantasy after fantasy.

    This is why we are so easy to manipulate, because we feel least at ease in this illusory world.

    If you say there is something to do, I will call you a fool.

    If you say that there is something others must do, I’ll call you a liar.

    If you think a book holds your present or future I will call you a Muppet.

    You lying foolish muppets Wink
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    Here I am stuck with a bunch of delusional foolish muppets on this ship of earth.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue May 28, 2019 11:03 pm

    Ack wrote:Fear not, we have delusional Muppets covered!

    That's what the truth is for.

    The truth will set us free!



    You have nothing covered.

    You are the delusion.

    Keep it up monkey boy.
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    Ack wrote:Black hole BOMBSHELL: NASA astronomer hints universe could be a HOLOGRAM

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1133128/Black-hole-NASA-black-holes-universe-hologram-Michelle-Thaller/amp

    We are beyond the point of no return.

    You better believe it smelly, the world will not escape the gravity of a black hole.

    All the Muppets will be made whole and perfect in the twinkling of an eye.

    Thank God for the J-guy!

    Every article on that site is a lie.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue May 28, 2019 11:45 pm

    This monkey has gone full delusional monkey.

    You don’t ever go 100% full delusional monkey.

    But this fool has done it.

    Oh brother.

    I dont have to make sure of anything.

    No one can make sure of anything.

    Keep bouncing pinball.

    I like the cold personally.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed May 29, 2019 2:52 am

    You have nothing to share and that you think so proves it.

    Liars and frauds abound.

    Oh my.

    Watch all the muppet turds float by.

    I thought I was smelly.
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    Post by dan Wed May 29, 2019 6:13 am

    Aaron,

    I used to suggest that smelly might have been saved, but I think I might have to take that back, now that I understand that he is a solipsist.  

    If it doesn’t embarrass you too much, I might have to say that you are the first and only person to ever have been saved....... assuming that you’ve actually done your homework.  

    A lot of folks suppose that Jesus saves.  Could they all be wrong?  It might be so.  

    The salvific work of Jesus has always been couched in terms of the general resurrection, which has not yet occurred.  The only two who might have been saved were the two who were crucified with him, to whom he made specific and immediate promises.  

    To be saved, we have to understand who we are.  smelly surely does not.  He only has a half brained understanding.  

    So that would make you the first.  No one else has ever understood the whole story...... not while still mortal.  I can’t really save myself.  That’s no good.  

    Anyone who wants to accept the Truth and Love, just come on down!

    Do you have to know me, personally, the way most Christians know Jesus?  Christians love Jesus.  Do they now have to love the chicken?  

    It’s different....... They have to love the Truth.  In some sense, I do incarnate the Truth, historically.  But.......

    Maybe you can think of me as the left brain of Jesus.  I’m just a hitch hiker.  I could be the doppelgänger....... the Antichrist, in some sense.  

    How can we think we’ve been saved, if we didn’t even know who we are?  

    Surely, no one can be saved who does not understand that we are all brothers and sisters in the Lord.  

    I mean, who would want to be saved under false pretenses?  I would not.  

    Who would want to be saved without understanding our full human potential?  That would be impossible.  No?  

    So, there we are, sports fans.  How do we like them apples?  Are they not the best possible apples?  


    10:15ft..........

    Are we now going to need a new tradition?  

    A new organization....... a new pope, etc.......?

    How about the separation clause?  

    Well, will there be anything to separate?  

    Everything is One with the Lord.  

    This is personal pantheism...... panentheism, if you will...... this includes the Hive and the Queen, of course.  

    And we might want somewhere to be during those gap years.  

    And what about Heaven?  What’s the rush?  Why don’t we check out the Kingdom Come, first?  

    Whatever is going to be, will be the best possible.  No?  

    Are the old traditions to be abolished?  Heck, no.  They will be integrated under their own volition.  

    More portals will be opening...... and there is no rush.  We have all the time in the world.  


    11.........  

    I will have to concede this much to the smelly One.........

    There is a strong sense in which a true Monist is also a solipsist.  I just think smelly jumped the gun by little bit.  He is confused about time.  

    Did smelly save himself?  Are we back to that?  Can anyone save themselves.  Did I save myself?  Hmmm........

    Will smelly concede infinite potential to his brothers and sisters?  

    Will he understand that we are all in the same boat?  That might be asking too much of the smelly One.  

    Did God save herself?

    No, she did not, that’s why she had to create us.

    Did smelly create himself?  He thinks he did, that’s why he is the Demiurge.  Poor guy.  smelly will live.  smelly will learn.

    And imagine a goat being saved by a chicken!  

    What would he tell the other goats?  It would be very embarrassing.  


    11:40.........

    I wonder what Mueller is going to say.  I doubt that it will be good news for Donald.  

    But, now, I forgot what I was going to say.......


    12:15.........

    Nope........ apparently, not. Mueller said as little as possible.



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    Aaron,

    And what is the Truth?
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