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First topic message reminder :

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This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 5 thread.......

The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here......

Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.  

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Post by 99 Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:23 am

By the way, 99, are you a jesus freak or not? If so, you’re sure hiding your lamp under a bushel. Be careful with that. Your house might catch on fire when you try to hide the flame. - dan


Oh, you mean about my continuing lottery wins? 

Like I said, I donate my wins to worthy causes so those ongoing wins have given me a noble purpose in life. I am very fortunate in that regard. Smile

Do what you want with that Dan but the fact that you're always looking at the negative side of things is very unfortunate indeed.
 

I am most definitely a Jesus freak! And proud of it too!

I do everything, in the name of Jesus Christ! Amen!

Also, from a Christian POV.... a Kundalini Awakening is just another term for  being filled with the Holy Spirit! And after the first initial awakening.... that awakening process continues .... forever.


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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:26 am

Dan wrote:donny is just the snooze button

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Post by dan Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:35 am

99,

That really takes the cake........

The negative side of the best possible world.......!!  

Here’s news from nowhere, 99, the best possible world has no negative side.  

Just ask smelly.


....... the process continues.......

Ok, 99, be prepared to get woke real good.


(cont......)


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Post by 99 Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:39 am

We have a remarkable group of people here Dan.... and don't you forget it!
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Post by dan Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:44 am

And your probably wondering who sent out the invitations.......
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Post by 99 Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:50 am

I'm not ruling that out... I would not be here if I didn't "see" beyond the surface and its occasional absurdities, that we are part of your M.O. too.

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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:35 am

Dan wrote:Ok, 99, be prepared to get woke real good.

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Post by 99 Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:54 am

Good Morning Smelly! 


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Post by hobbit Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:39 am

99 wrote:By the way, 99, are you a jesus freak or not? If so, you’re sure hiding your lamp under a bushel. Be careful with that. Your house might catch on fire when you try to hide the flame. - dan


Oh, you mean about my continuing lottery wins? 

Like I said, I donate my wins to worthy causes so those ongoing wins have given me a noble purpose in life. I am very fortunate in that regard. Smile

Do what you want with that Dan but the fact that you're always looking at the negative side of things is very unfortunate indeed.
 

I am most definitely a Jesus freak! And proud of it too!

I do everything, in the name of Jesus Christ! Amen!

Also, from a Christian POV.... a Kundalini Awakening is just another term for  being filled with the Holy Spirit! And after the first initial awakening.... that awakening process continues .... forever.



Impressed that You put "from a Christian point of view".


SSsso! Whats this holy spirit??????????


"From source"


Where's that???


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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:25 pm

I’m not arguing with Dan about his faith.

Perhaps he clarified it grappling with us fools.

He can be God, the SoT, Jesus, whatever works for him.

Really, one could let anyone from the past possess them.

The Earth is filled with Ghosts.

The more the merrier I say.
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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:27 pm

Wow, this is very interesting watching the Catholics happy the idols and relics are safe.


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Post by dan Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:58 pm

Ok, 99, as fellow Jesus freak, I’m gonna need to know what probability you assign to the possibility that I’m the second coming?
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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:17 pm

Oh my, smelly goat wants to jump on that one Dan, but we are blind and dumb.

A Zen Jesus sounds cool to me.

The Zen masters dig Jesus.

When you dig into the tradition of Zen you find the same bullshitz and infighting as in any man maintained tradition.

Plenty of leacherous Zen masters.

I never understood gropers, who just grab people during meditation.

Monkeys.

I think we need a Muslim, Atheist, Christian, Zoroastrian, Sufi, Buddhist/Zen, Humanist, Agnostic meetup.

That would be fun.
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Post by 99 Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:02 pm

Dan, the question you should be asking is if I would die for you and my answer to that question is NO.
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Post by 99 Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:08 pm

This said, I do think that your (dan) higher self in the astral realm is exceptional. Exactly what that means has yet to be revealed to me.
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Post by Cyrellys Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:33 pm

Cyrellys wrote:For Dan, my cailleoir friend,

BINGO.

Dan wrote:By cutting themselves off from the Source, they have cut themselves off from the vital force.  

(snip)

The last I checked, the only beings were persons. 


The World was created by the Word....

Nature or the universe is controlled by logos, the "Word", or "reason", which was "Truth" and synonymous with "godhead".

In the beginning was the "Word" [Logos], and the "Word" [Logos] was with God, and the "Word" [Logos] was God.

"Word", Reason, Truth, God...it's ALL Conscious...Pure Awen...pure inspiration.

The Vedas say, "by means of Truth, the Earth endures".

For both Druids and Brahmins, the life-giving principle and sustaining power was the Word or Truth, the ultimate cause for All-Being.

Salute!

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Speaking of the demise of Notre Dame - the Lady

Remember who built her - Masons 1.0 Templars NOT Masons 2.0 Illuminati/Alumbrados [Europe].  It was prior to the control of France by the Illumined.

Wikipedia: Notre-Dame de Paris wrote:The cathedral was begun in 1160 under Bishop Maurice de Sully and was largely complete by 1260

Wikipedia - Templars wrote:At dawn on Friday, October 13, 1307, scores of French Templars were simultaneously arrested by agents of King Philip, later to be tortured in locations such as the tower at Chinon, into admitting heresy and other sacrilegious offenses in the Order. Then they were put to death.

Remember the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution was who was where.  Nature's Crowd Alliance w/original Templars/Masons in America vs the Illuminati controlled Masons of France/Europe

Look Carefully - Widipedia Notre-Dame de Paris wrote:In 1793, during the French Revolution, the cathedral was rededicated to the Cult of Reason, and then to the Cult of the Supreme Being. During this time, many of the treasures of the cathedral were either destroyed or plundered. The twenty-eight statues of biblical kings located at the west façade, mistaken for statues of French kings, were beheaded.

Remember the Templars never got around to raising their new "nation" in the new world (Oak Island in the North to New Hampshire [strawberry banks] in the South) per the land grant from the Sachem BECAUSE they attempted to help their Scottish Benefactors with the liberation of Scotland from the English.  Eventually they abandoned this for the English Colonies in North America.  The vacuum they left behind, was taken by the Illumined by the late 1600s early 1700s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being

Where do you think the triadic philosophical approach originates?  Egypt?  Jerusalem?  Lol.

Mogh Ruith of Valencia Island (early Christian 2nd Century Enclave, Ireland) was Ollamh Mor (Great Scholar/Druid) and a respected early Bishop of Christianity on the Isle of the Setting Sun.  He set the stage for the Cormac mac Airt to become the first Christian King of Tara, who in turn requested a Christian burial upon his death instead of entombment with the ancient Kings of Eireann.

The stars speak through the stones.  Light shines in the densest matter.  Earth and heaven are ONE.  Our physical beings and our heavenly souls are united in the Mystery of Being. -- Philip Carr-Gomm, The Druid Tradition.


I am the author
written into the
greenbook of the grass,
the primal scripture. 
-- Bill Lewis, "The Skyclad Christ"


To be an "author" is to be at one with Awen -- Spiritual Inspiration aka Authentic.  Truth is a virtue.  Word, Logos, Divinity - path to God/unity-harmony with All Being.

The Book of Job compares all life to grass, and speaks of the way in which the upspringing green shoot that withers away is cast into the fire to be burned (revolution of lifetimes).  Yet this green shoot feeds the human and animal worlds  The green grain ripens into the golden harvest that makes our very bread -- to hear the primal scripture that has its own spiritual language and understand the knowledge that transcends all religious boundaries.  This is a transmission between yourself and God on a whole other level of understanding, beyond oral or written traditions.  Inspired Authenticity and Synergy via the Soul Channel of Awen: between self and God.  We call this the shining.  The golden light of the sun is the harmony to our melody.


To dare the incarnation; to take the road in silence.
To know the ascension; to will the resurrection.
The song shimmers in the golden people.
-- Aidan Andrew Dun, Vale Royal

Everything that lives is holy -- William Blake, "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"

Life is a sacred gift that all beings receive.  It is the MANNER of our living that makes all the difference.  The way in which we relate to other living beings encourages them to change the world for good or violate the world for ill; the way in which we spend our lives illuminates or darkens those around us.  But if we are not aware of the sacred potential in each living being, if we do not acknowledge it and respect it, we may become active agents of the soul's darkening.  Everything that lives is holy because it is an abiding place of Spirit; every body is a home where the sacred gifts of Spirit may be born anew.

Who is it who declaims the sun's arising?
Who is it who tells where the sun sets?
-- Amergin, Lebor Gabala Erenn

The world has tilted far
from the sun, from colour and juice...
I am waiting for a birth that will change everything.
-- Hilary Llewellyn-Williams, The Tree Calendar

Of Truth and Generosity? - yet another key

As long as sun and moon shall last
The generous one shall never be empty.
-- Scots Gaelic saying.

Generosity, Truth....Hospitality is an expression of Soul Truth.  The truly generous one gives without stint (respects free will), like Fionn mac Cumhail, of whom it was said:  If only the brown leaf were gold the tree sheds where the year is old!  Silver [Silver on the Tree], the foam upon the bay, Fionn would give it all away.

We of the Fianna never told a lie.  Falsehood was never attributed to them.  But by truth and the strength in our hands, we came safe out of every combat. -- Ladoidh Chunaic an Air

The Fianna was the prestigious war band of the hero Fionn mac Cumhail, whose honor was bound up in their maintenance of truth, as their motto says:  "Truth in our hearts, strength in our hands, consistency upon our tongues."

If I break faith, may the skies fall upon me, may the seas drown
me, may the earth rise up and swallow me.  
-- Ancient Gaulish oath of the elements to God.

The Lady's demise was not natural.  She who was built to give unconditionally a seat for the faith in the souls of man.

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For a dispensation of Justice and Truth, on her behalf a recitation of the Old Irish Sun Prayer in full:

The eye of the great GOD,
The eye of the GOD of glory,
The eye of the KING of hosts,
The eye of the KING of the Living,
Pouring upon us
At each time and season,
Pouring upon us
Gently and generously.
Glory to thee,
Thou glorious sun (GOD's Awen to the Living),
Glory to thee, thou grian,
Face of the GOD of all Life.


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Tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
Ascendit ad caelos;
Sedit ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
Inde venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos.


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Post by Cyrellys Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:30 pm

smelly wrote:Wow, this is very interesting watching the Catholics happy the idols and relics are safe.

Do you possess any photos of family or places you wish to remember with fondness?  If yes, then you know why they are happy.

Humans cling to memories of what they believe in or hold in high value...stuff helps them remember.

Give their happiness and relief, the peace won fairly in the cataclysm of sorrow.


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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:51 pm

You don’t say Wink

I wonder how long it takes Cy to write these posts?

Impressive.
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Post by FatThorDude Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:55 pm

Dan and Aaron are scared of the princess maybe.

I wonder what that’s all about?

Makes me think of that song...



I used to be scared of my mother.

I fought her every step to make me.

Now she and I are dead to each other.

Anywhere I go though, I meet her.

Mothers have such a hold on their sons until they don’t.
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Post by U Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:09 pm

Dan mentioned the Princess might be a decoy. For a Hive Queen maybe? I think I've met her, she didn't look like Aliyah Pandolfi...

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles26.htm


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Post by Cyrellys Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:15 pm

smelly wrote:You don’t say Wink

I wonder how long it takes Cy to write these posts?

Impressive.

Lol Smelly Goat.  I spent my childhood hours AFTER public school, in traditional Aes Dana scholarship - standing in the kitchen painfully shifting from one worn out foot to the other required to stand in place until I had accurately finished reciting my traditional lessons and answered the comprehension questions that went with them correctly.  Traditional study doesn't grade on a curve or give out bathroom passes.  You want out, you get it done efficiently and correctly.  You are trained and required to remember everything you see and hear, the first time.  No peeking back in the book or saying it to yourself seven times like in public school.  And then there is multi-tasking....never doing just one task at a time.

Grin.  You should try it sometime.  Brain calisthenics.

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Dan wished to know more of my cosmology.  

I've been teaching it in context with the current conversation.

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Smile like you mean it Wink
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Post by 99 Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:38 am

Cyrellys wrote:
smelly wrote:Wow, this is very interesting watching the Catholics happy the idols and relics are safe.

Do you possess any photos of family or places you wish to remember with fondness?  If yes, then you know why they are happy.

Humans cling to memories of what they believe in or hold in high value...stuff helps them remember.

Give their happiness and relief, the peace won fairly in the cataclysm of sorrow.

Fascinating write-up in your last couple of posts. You absolutely amaze me Cy and how you can write out essays like that at the drop of a hat. BRILLIANT is the only word I can come up for that....

As for your response to smelly's comment that I have in quotes here.... as a Catholic, I want to thank you for that. When I first viewed the first video of Notre Dame on fire like that.... it felt like a sword was piercing my heart... 

I also felt a lot of anger too because there have recently been some Catholic Church arson incidents in Paris including millions of dollars worth of damage to "the famed St. Sulpice Church" yet some of those there are saying that the Notre Dame fire might have been accidently set which makes me wonder if those officials who are saying that are hiding something.

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