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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Course Catalog Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:54 pm

    Dan, Did you meet with Harry Reid or Bob Bigelow on this excursion?

    Seems like Mormons and Scientologists have taken over the UFO field in some kind of coup.
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    Post by dan Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:11 pm

    Aaron,

    God is the only one who could rightfully claim solipsism.


    CC,

    I met with no one other than Joe and Kevin.

    Taking over ufology would be like trying to herd cats.

    OM is bad enough, and it’s a very small slice of ufology.


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    Post by GrandCru Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:34 pm

    Yeah CC, didn't you know YOU'RE the reason why ufology can't have nice things? Rolling Eyes

    It's obvious to me that ufology is stuck in the big brother bully loop of "why don't you stop hitting yourself?"

    Somebody is manipulating the community to look foolish, or at least far more foolish than it would look on its own.


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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:50 pm

    As with all phenomena, people will have various interpretations of it. There are no uninterpreted facts.


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    Post by SurfBum Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:24 pm

    dan wrote:Aaron,

    God is the only one who could rightfully claim solipsism.  


    God is an idiot.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:04 pm

    Aaron wrote:
    dan wrote:Aaron,

    God is the only one who could rightfully claim solipsism.  


    God is an idiot.

    Don’t call yourself names.

    I’ll call you names.

    Send me a list and I’ll email you daily insults if you like Wink

    It would be my pleasure.

    Same offer goes for anyone.
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:46 pm

    Lol

    Razz
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:04 am

    “Within 10 days you will seem a God to those to whom you are now a beast and an ape, if you will return to your principles and the worship of reason.”

    —Marcus Aurelius - Meditations
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:09 am

    I’m not quite finished with the rad/ebe hypothesis...... not just yet.  I can see that it would be useful, but not actually essential...... not yet.

    Presumably, there exist visitors.  There would have to.  Why?  Hmmm........ that’s a good question.  

    The visitors...... if they didn’t already exist, we’d have to invent them, and maybe we are.

    Are we making this up as we go along?  

    Are we faking it until we make it?  Perhaps.  It sure feels like that, frequently.  

    But, some of this stuff, I don’t think anyone could make up.  All the king’s horses and all the king’s men........

    For instance, I’m supposed to talk to Frank, today.  He’s a nuts and bolts sort of guy.  He’s been behind Joe, since Joe was 17.  

    He was concerned that I was coming to the lake to steal Joe’s machine.  Frank was trying to protect his investment from me.

    Maybe this is why we have visitors.  Why....... to protect investments?  That would be one way to look at it.  

    But that would be a bit too easy of an explanation.  

    All of us are visitors, of one sort or another.  We’re just trying to sort things out.  Joe is the pivot...... a pivot for doing that.  Joe may be the last pivot before Disclosure.  

    So, who’s investment are we trying to protect.  Well, that depends.... on how you look at it......

    It could be God’s investment, or it could be ours.  And, if you’d been following along, you’d know there isn’t a whole lot of difference.  

    And does God need our protection?  Do we need God’s?  Well, we’ll either hang together or hang separately..... as if that were possible.  

    How do we sort out the visitors, then......?

    Maybe we use magic markers, like dna.  All that ‘junk’ dna..... go figure.  Understand that dna doesn’t actually exist, not the way you read about it in textbooks...... nor do telephones.  Telephony is just a covering/actuator for global telepathy...... didn’t we know?

    Some visitors are also ebes..... magic markers....... it’s harder to counterfeit...... that’s all.

    Rad would have been too easy to counterfeit...... especially d, because..... well, because the chicken guy was just a one trick pony.  There are lots of ponies with just one trick..... go figure.  

    No, hold on........ all visitors are ebes.  Every last one of us muppets is an ebe....... and we’ve already been barcoded...... what do you think all that ‘junk’ is for....... go figure.  

    It’s just to idiot-proof the system.  Or, should we say, to muppet-proof it?  

    That about covers the rad/ebe hypothesis.  

    All that bar coding will facilitate the reconstruction of the monad, don’t you think?  It’s just like connecting the dots.  But it won’t be too easy.  There will be sufficient challenges, unto the day.  

    So, now you know how the chrysalitic metamorphosis will work..... kiss.....

    Yes, sports fans, the main task of the Antichrist was going to be to barcode us...... been there, done that, and I have the KWF t-shirt, just to prove it.  I don’t need no stinkin’ dna.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:08 am

    Fake it til you make it.

    Fuck ya.

    I’m in Shanghai livin tha life.

    Who tha fuk carez about alienz?!

    Not I.

    Cheerz!


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:12 am

    smelly wrote:“Within 10 days you will seem a God to those to whom you are now a beast and an ape, if you will return to your principles and the worship of reason.”

    —Marcus Aurelius - Meditations

    Why would anyone want to be a God when they could be a beast? I would even take an ape over a God.


    Also, how long will you be traveling abroad?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:26 am

    Oh, I’m a beast alright, I don’t go in for all of Marcus’ control all the time Wink

    Quote had God in it and sounded profound, so... Wink

    You know, be profound if you can be.

    But it’s all bullshitz.

    Bahahaha


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:27 am

    Done in Shanghai.

    3 days in Singapore next.

    Then home if I survive Singapore.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 am

    Yes I think Dionysus would not go for Markus’ control all the time.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:29 am

    Tonight Dionysus livez!!!

    Trippin the fuckin light fantastic.

    If Jesus was here, I’d get him fuckin wasted.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:46 am

    If you get Jesus wasted then they will have to take away his Mormon temple recommend and he will be homeless.

    Crying or Very sad
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:49 am

    I’d get him high too.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:53 am

    Sorry, but the uptight mupppets can eat our shorts.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:51 am

    The visitors can also eat our shorts... except the Princess, I like her.
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:08 am

    Yes, smelly, it looks like you’ll have to eat your own shorts.


    We are almost on page 40 of Immaterialism 3. That means I need to start Immaterialism 4, before OMF tries to do it automatically........
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    Post by RunningBull Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:26 am

    smelly wrote:Tonight Dionysus livez!!!

    Trippin the fuckin light fantastic.

    If Jesus was here, I’d get him fuckin wasted.

    Share the wealth brotha!

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