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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:10 pm

    INCANTATION

    In every story about sorcery, there is the magic spell uttered with secret words. The apprentice must learn them. The master must teach their superb use and also pass on the regret of excess. The words bend reality as we know it. In actuality, the sorcerer was only able to access a level of physics others could not. Aside from wands, orbs, doll, swords, cloaks, amulets, ropes and other everyday instruments, the power of the incantation came simply from knowledge—and breath.

    Everyday language is incantation we take for granted. The right words bring you a cup of coffee. They seduce someone to undress and make love to you. They can establish global businesses. They can still war to peace. They can give a child lifelong confidence and goals. They can provide meaning to the confused. Our breath makes magic happen many times each day.

    With such power, we should take some time to think about our abilities. There’s no question that we provide constantly for ourselves. Take some time to give your breath to others.

    Speak for the helpless. Speak the truth. At every opportunity, speak:

    “Love. Love. Love.”

    —Deng Ming Dao
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:20 am

    “I would neither make nor imply any statement about nature which would not be endorsed by the most materialistic man of science. On the surface this may sound difficult; but in practice I found it perfectly simple to combine the most rigidly rational conceptions of phenomena with the most exalted and enthusiastic celebration of their sublimity.”

    —AC - (Confessions)
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:29 pm



    I quote Voltaire in response to our corrupted judiciary.

    He helped give as division of church and state and freedom of speech.

    To see our backward slide now, is the storm before the calm one hopes, but I do not pretend we will do anything but slide further toward the Abyss in my lifetime.

    "It does not require great art, or magnificently trained eloquence, to prove that Christians should tolerate each other. I, however, am going further: I say that we should regard all men as our brothers. What? The Turk my brother? The Chinaman my brother? The Jew? The Siam? Yes, without doubt; are we not all children of the same father and creatures of the same God?"

    In one of his many denunciations of priests of every religious sect, Voltaire describes them as those who "rise from an incestuous bed, manufacture a hundred versions of God, then eat and drink God, then piss and shit God."

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".

    That includes you UFO nuts and dark knights.

    The purpose of intelligence we have is to observe and improve intelligence.

    You have to pass through the Voltaire gate or you haven’t even begun.

    He also said...

    "It is wrong to attribute to a whole nation the vices of some individuals.”

    As I see it, the lunatics are now in charge, god will not help us.

    We must, as always, help ourselves, for only we have the ability to do so.

    I only provide shade to those near me.

    I must confess I have some bite and fight in me to stare down ignorance.

    It is difficult to avoid the evangelical zeal of my youth at times.

    I find I arrived at many of Voltaire’s positions.

    And if part of me had its way, it would all burn and I would dance in the flames laughing hysterically like the floating fat man in Dune.

    One may use their reason to see clearly, the mystic dark mirror is an aid, but a trap as well, a gravity well of darkness. We must chose from clarity or ignorance in simple life.

    I feel clarity a more noble goal, to what end, I cannot say, but the future comes to us day by day thankfully.

    We have the chance to choose our best path.

    If all is preordained there would be no time, this is obvious.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:04 pm

    How many of you have totally deranged yourselves?

    Scrambled your marbles.

    Until you have, you are holding on, don’t fool yourself.

    The shamanic path is one few walk because it requires total confusion and being able to find your way back from insanity.

    When you emerge again after dunking yourself into a black hole, it is the finding of the way out that brings value to your experience.

    The way out is in.

    Anyone can crack up, but to do so intentially and then to find what is underneath, that is an experience.

    What else is one to do in a Magick game but to trip out on it?

    Derangement, want some, enjoy learning your depth Wink

    I guess we are just born cracked up for it or not.

    You come back with a new language.

    I have to say, based on my experience, I do not recommend intentional psychosis.

    But death is the only Way, I can not lie to you.

    Have a fun climb on Jacob’s Ladder.

    You will journey through Hell and Heaven, it’s one twisted ladder Wink

    What we can do once we emerge back into the light is plant seeds of love that will bring healing, to counter Choronzons seeds of entropy.

    You come to stand in two worlds at the same time.

    Nuit and her mate, Time and Space is what gives us form.

    But you have to die to get the seeds and then prepare the soil well, to grow the tree that grants immortality in eternity for it becomes your bridge, you become one with this tree.

    Just like Gilgamesh learned, all that time ago, funny, I started with Gilgamesh many decades ago when I was a boy.

    He walked this path as well, whether he lived is not important, it’s a great story.

    Some crazy things on the wind I suppose only a cracked psychotic mind could receive, beware this path of initiation, it will be your demise and rebirth if you have the will.

    ...

    “All we know is effect or appearance, and we mistakenly judge this to be a cause. This whole idea of power then collapses in upon itself, revealing nothing. The solution is really quite simple. In the (Egyptian) Book of the Law, Liber AL, II: 3–4, Hadit (Will) declares his nature:

    In the sphere I am everywhere the centre, as she, the circumference, is nowhere found. Yet she shall be known and I never.

    To use a geometric analogy, the circle of all possibility (Nuit) is determined by the hypothetical point (Hadit). If we move the point, the curvature changes. Yet the point only exists by virtue of the circle. Neither comes first or second; every event is simultaneous and spontaneous. The ‘Will’ is esoteric. The ‘Effect’ is exoteric. Hadit will not be known because he is the Knower, consciousness itself, which causes things to appear.

    We can only approach the esoteric cause through the mode of analogous thought. Rational thought stops short, reaching its ring-pass-not, at causal determinism; thus far and no further. Let us return to the question of power. What then is true power? For example, do politicians really possess a thing called ‘power’? They may produce acts of governance, and those acts may be enforced by the power of the State via the police and military forces. But if politicians seemingly have the power to command forces, from whence does that power originate? In the case of the politician, it depends entirely on the bargains, the deals they have made with others behind closed doors. It depends on the confidence of their financial backers. Modern economic systems are moved by blind forces, which is called a ‘market economy’. That power owes much to the chance element of the roulette wheel. The gamblers feel powerful on winning, powerless when losing, especially if losing all, in which case they may be seen sky-diving from an apartment window twenty floors above the ground. What then is the real meaning of such power?

    There is only one true power in the universe. That power is the power of attention, observance.”
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    Post by U Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:36 am

    Gather round busy bees, The Keeper has a story for you.

    A few weeks ago I played a tabletop RPG called Traveler for the first time. Traveler is this wild, extensive Sci-Fi game made by some retired NASA guys that uses real physics and tries to ground itself in real science using the rules of FTL travel to journey through the cosmos. Our game took place in an area called the Sword Worlds where a neo-viking culture dominated that section of space. We learned from our GM (Game Master) that part of the fun of the game is the random events that occur during character creation during what are called terms. I created a human and naturally I chose the Intelligence Agent profession of course. On my first term I was passed up for promotion but found out I was called "The Child of the Aesir" which is basically the living child of a god on the material plane. I was regarded as a messiah (the perfect cover) by some but my character who I named Rorik was cynical about it, he enjoyed the accolades but he mostly just had a job to do. Things got more interesting on the second term! On the second term I rolled really well and the GM paused for a bit, looked over his notes and his computer a few times then back at me with a perplexed look on his face, shrugs and just asks "drones"? I immediately say "yes that's perfect" and tried not to leap out of my chair! It felt as if being struck by lightning and it was everything I could do to contain my laughter. Finally we reached the last term that night and my character sustained a blow to the head. One of his drones backfired and cracked right into his noggin! Now, Rorik sees visions and truly believes he is the messiah! I might start calling him "The Drone Priest".

    Hahahaha, isn't that kind of fucking weird bruh?

    How's that for some "spooky action at a distance"?

    You can't make this shit up man!
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:08 pm

    Laughing

    Sounds like a fun game Keeper.

    I love a good game.

    May the Drone Priest abide.
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    Post by U Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:33 am

    It sure was, Sloth.
    We'll see where it goes!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:33 pm

    To find The Way...

    Take a left at Zorba the Greek

    And a right at Buddha

    There is this narrow space here.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:32 pm

    Someone asked me who I was today...

    Upon reflection I have to say I am an unanswered question here now happening.

    One hand clapping.

    That’s all of it now isn’t it?!
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    Post by U Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:01 pm

    https://youtu.be/z5lnjhYXGEo

    This could be us but Foot's playin!

    Lol
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:13 pm

    Keeper,

    What is this clip?
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    Post by U Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:44 pm

    Ah damn
    SPOILER ALERT
    Ending to Black Panther
    I saw it recently
    Good story
    I'm just having a little fun
    I think it belongs here
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    Post by U Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:45 pm

    The very end is mainly the point/joke I'm making
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:38 pm

    I get it Wink

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    Post by SurfBum Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:10 pm

    Been watching Westworld on HBO.

    Interesting show to say the least.

    They just quoted one of my favorite Blake Quotes.

    “To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour. A Robin Redbreast in a Cage Puts all Heaven in a Rage. A dove house fill'd with doves and pigeons Shudders Hell thro' all its regions.“
    -William Blake

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:30 am

    The idea of god with a penis has always been hilarious to me. If there is an IT and it’s sexual, what must sex be like for IT?

    —Robert Anton Wilson

    I believe we all know the answer, or most of us not living in our parent’s basement.

    It is the unconnected who channel chaos into Eden.

    The true conspiracy is the stupidity of Humanity.

    To be existential is to recognize your own uncertainty and to ask a question with no answer.

    To be existential is like entering your password into the God computer console, but the password is Pi, 3.14...

    The good and bad aliens are the angels and Daimons of old.

    It is a new religion.

    AP seems to be one of its prophets.

    Colin Wilson says our meta programmer is our transcendental ego.

    Going existential gives you access to your meta programming and you can then reinprint yourself using contact with the 7th circuit.

    Evangelicals and bliss bunnies are ecstatics.

    How about the non-local quantum circuit?

    Everything in the universe is in harmony with everything else or we wouldn’t be here.

    The software is always everywhere, our machinery is local here now, not there and then.

    Samadhi is related to synchronicity.

    Union brings more awareness of them.

    Big Mind non-local software is doing this.

    The Sufis warned you would become an ecstatic if you don’t prepare yourself for reunion.

    Disclosure is reunion.

    Apocalypse is reunion.

    The Sufis talk about the ‘Next Step’.

    A continuation of reunion is a definition for evolution.

    I teach how to become your own programmer.

    Can’t help helping people free themselves.

    Are you God Buddha?
    No.
    Then what are you?
    I am awake.
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    By Leonard Cohen

    Cohen was a zen existentialist, the best kind of muppet Wink

    Trump and Kanye are bogus bullshitz.

    They don’t know what or who they are.

    Jim Carrey knows who he is.

    They don’t know who they are more than any on Earth.

    Because they top our bullshit culture that celebrates the individual right to be, as long as you are the right kind of individual.

    The right kind is one who keeps it all going.

    There it is, to keep it all going is evil.

    But it’s the best kind of bullshit and evil for us, right?

    Watch evil closely and clean the red dust off you.

    Straight on...or all stop?!

    Time to disembark?

    I think our stop is coming up.

    There I go prophesying again.

    I’m gettin good at this.
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    Post by U Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:02 am

    https://youtu.be/rH1XTOBF0YQ
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:07 am

    KOL, very good and exactly spot on.

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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:56 pm

    This one's for you Smelly,

    Wink

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    Post by SurfBum Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:59 pm

    This looks like a fun one.

    In theaters near you very soon.

    Wink



    Gotta love them redheads!

    Fire and water are fun to play with.
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    Post by U Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:21 pm

    Sloth, there were once giant sloths that roamed the Earth thousands of years ago. I got to see a skeleton of one in a museum once, have you ever seen one? They are pretty cool!

    http://mentalfloss.com/article/77099/10-big-facts-about-giant-ground-sloths
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:00 pm

    KOL,

    I did not know that. That's awesome! Thanks for sharing.

    Very Happy
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    Absolutely.

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