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smelly wrote:You are a funny little hobbit.

Only You and I know this, but nobody else is allowed to know, so it must be unknown that you know, only the cabel car company know what is so known but unknown, OK?


I did know how to insert this link to play here , but forgot how to, so it remains unknown to Me, but not to You.


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hobbit

hobbit wrote:

ParanoidFactoid wrote:Is this more, you'll never know how much I know about all those secret known unknowns only the cabal and I are permitted to not discuss?  

Something about this post made Me laugh????


Hobbit

I aim to please. lol

ParanoidFactoid wrote:

hobbit wrote:

ParanoidFactoid wrote:Is this more, you'll never know how much I know about all those secret known unknowns only the cabal and I are permitted to not discuss?  

Something about this post made Me laugh????


Hobbit

I aim to please. lol

You did with loud applause, thank You.




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hobbit

My cat knows everything about disclosure

dan wrote:
Of course, you may be right...... it’s still just business as usual.  But, we at OMF are responsible to keep the Gate open. You never know who might show up.  Yours is the cheap shot.  Illigitimi non carborundum.  Don’t sink to that level.  Keep your head up.  Bret is business as usual.  Don’t let him grind you down.  

One fine day, we wake up to unusual times..... to deep time.  

If that possibility is not always in the forefront of your mind, you are letting us all down, 99.  Keep your lamp burning, please.  You don’t have to remind us of the dark.  

I think it's fair to say that over half the women out there are victims of sexual misconduct. I can recall one incident back when I was 18 up in the Ogunquit for the summer when I met this guy at a party. Everybody was there and as I recall, it was the Christmas in July party. Well, this guy that I met there seemed nice, funny and personable. And later when the party was winding down, he offered to drive me home and I accepted.  But that's not what happened. Instead, he drove me to this huge mansion on the seaside that was set-back on an expansive front lawn with woods on one side of it.  He then forcefully dragged me out of his car and tried to rape me as I was kicking like crazy to push him off and screaming to the top of my lungs. And then two things happened simultaneously. Just in the nick of time, a helicopter appeared overhead out of nowhere and shined a bright search-light on us and then a friend who was at the party and was on his way home from it too heard my screams, saw us, and pulled up in his jeep and rescued me.  So even though this happened many, many years ago, it’s as if it happened only yesterday.  I remember all of it in crystal clear detail.

That was the first time in my life something like that had ever happened to me… after that one, there were other incidents too.  But the reason why I'm bringing this up is because most women out there have their own stories to tell and this is why we could relate to everything that Ford was saying at that hearing. When things like that happen, it's forever ingrained in your memory and it never leaves you. There was no question in my mind, that she was telling the truth.

GrandCru,

Interestingly enough, Cognitive Enhancement ala contact with the phenomenon is a central theme of Delonge's new fiction. I'm about 3/4 through that books, and only have a few more chapters left on Owen Barfield. It's an interesting combination to say the least...

Dan,

Speaking of Barfield. What do you think his ideas of participation have to do with the idea of sacraments. I'm thinking especially in light of the old Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, and early Calvinist views of what the sacraments are or do. It is very difficult for moderners and postmoderners to wrap their minds around the concept, and I'm wondering how much of this has to do with what Barfield calls the idolatry of appearances. Certain Catholic thinkers like De Lubac have said that all of creation is Sacramental, in a way. Thoughts?

You can use any thing to see into things if you look right, intention matters.

The Bible
Any book
A flower or tree
A heavenly body

I think that’s pretty awesome.

Smelly,

And what are we seeing into?

Mirror in the sky, what is love?

99 thank you for sharing what you have, I'm sure it was very difficult to share and I'm very sorry that that happened to you.

Everyone at OpenMindsForum could only dream of being as courageous as you.

Yes, it was difficult to talk about that. Thanks for your acknowledgement of that.  Really appreciate it.

Seeing into Love, I like that.

I was going to say we can see into a thing’s true nature, which are mirrors of our true nature.

Hence why we can use any ole thing or ourselves to see clearly.

You can look at any resolution, small or big and you find the back of your head.

For instance, right now I’m looking deeply into my frozen margarita, it is all clear here

Though I must say Dan is right, don't delete your posts here 99, they are part of your courage! I know I won't delete mine and I'm far less courageous than you!

Agreed Smelly, I'll keep seeing into the love, when I feel it...

99, I’m glad you were able to get away. Crazy that a helicopter showed up just in the nick of time AND a friend too.

If we wish to increase our capacity for understanding and thereby draw closer to the Tao, we are advised to change our way of thinking because ‘the more knowledge you seek, the less you will understand ‘.

We are encouraged to follow the example of the Master who ‘learns by unlearning, thus she is able to understand all things’.

The Sage or Master is one who, having become ‘unlearnd’ By emptying him- or herself of all concepts and opinions, is ‘filled with the Tao and is like a newborn child’. Having ‘attained unity with the Tao’, the Master no longer has a ‘self’.

Speaking of ‘seeing’,

“And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?

Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.” John 9:39-41

In hebrew sin could mean ‘miss the mark’ or ‘miss the way’.

99,

It is a privilege to be taken into your trust, as you have.  

Do you suppose the perpetrator ever experienced remorse?  Was he a sociopath?  Irredeemable?  

Why are such people created, or are they mistakes of nature?  All of us have ingrained inhibitions, until we don’t.


hobbit,

The hollow Earth theory was cycled through a very dark place in our history.  Even sociopaths can be brilliant...... fortunately or unfortunately.  The rain falls, and the light shines on the just and the unjust.  If your heart is in the right place, you need not fear contamination.  Fear not.


GC et al.,

The sacred and the profane.......

If we are to be monists, and some of us so struggle, we may not draw that distinction, in the End.  To prepare for the End, we do so struggle.  

All of us are exiles from Eden.  The gate was slammed in our faces, unceremoniously.  We look back, through a glass, darkly.  We can only reminisce about that sacred space..... in our mother’s arms.  

Deep inside, we search for a remnant of that warmth and light.  

The priest consecrates the church and the sacraments.  

Plato could scry heaven, in his Archetypes.  

Then there was the Mundane, the precinct of corruption and decay.  

Newton and Leibniz, contemporaries, each had a profound insight into the Mundane....... their parallel insights shake the world, today.  

Who are we, to attempt to stand on their shoulders......?  

We are at our wits ends..... that’s who we are.  

Newton and Leibniz thought inside the box.  

We.....?  We have no choice but to dive further in, or fly further out.  

Ufologists dare us to fly to Heaven.   smelly dares us to dive further in.  

And where is the Garden..... is it out there or in here?  

Newton brought the apple down to Earth.  Leibniz......?  

Leibniz..... took Newton’s apple, and made us an apple pie.  

I apologize, but there is an apple seed of truth.  

Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to bake that pie, so that we may all digest it.  

Are too many cooks going to spoil that pie.....?  

No.  As I once said to Ron...... the more the merrier.  

The cosmic recipe is written in our hearts.  It is written with every atom and every star.  Nothing is for naught.  

You of feint heart, 99...... you will believe.  Believe, Hon, as we are wont to say in Flagtown.  


12:30.........

Kevin.....?  Does Kevin not believe?  

Maybe not.  

Kevin is supposed to relay to me event #259.  

Last night...... he was enjoying his Thai food...... lest anyone of us should get our priorities confused.  Seriously, gogo, the World is not going to end...... says Kashmir.... with her all her wits about her.  

smelly, must be right.......

Irony of ironies...... I’m the only one in the world who truly lacks faith..... in the process..... in the system.  

Perhaps I might be excused...... sometimes I miss the forest.... for all the trees.  Darn.  


So here we are...... back to the system......

Do you see how the system works?  Good for you, because I sure don’t.  

Did Leibniz see how the system works......?  

Well, he had the formula.  He worked it out with a pencil.  Doesn’t that count.  Did he cheat?  

Does Brett Kavanaugh have the formula? He did..... until he didn’t. He might have cheated, too..... in a state of near stupor.



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Too many cooks aren't going to spoil the pie...we were meant to make whatever it is we make.

And that is the end. It is an impossibility for humanity to retain the identity it has with the level of cognitive enhancement the phenomena will bring. Whatever this is, it's contagious in some aspect.

Like times before, we will "destroy" ourselves with this ability to manifest. I'm sure somehow, that's god's will.

Dan may actually be saying, to what is all this...don’t know.

To which I might reply, excellent, straight on til morning my man.

We will die like Newton and the others, but we hold our light here now, together.

We all warm ourselves by the same fire.

How far it seems we have come from those cold caves.

Why any of this?

Perhaps to learn to be kind to ourselves and each other.

Every time we act with compassion and loving kindness, our true nature, things improve.

When we act with harshness or by running away, we make things worse.

This is the basic compass the darkness has gifted us with.

So hold fast your course...

I Ching 40

The motion of the ball is a cycle.
The use of the ball is to knock the pins down,
After which, they pop up again.
Bowling is made of motion,
And motion is made of nothing.
It’s all just a game, man.
Well, that’s your perception.

Tao travels everywhere,
But always returns to its origin,
Though it gives rise to the world,
It does so with an enormous gentleness and humility.
This is because it starts from nothing.

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Are we then any different than the Tao?

Call this what you like, describe the scenery as you like.

But nothing to nothing is the whole journey.

What do you see, what have you learned, why does it matter?

Don’t know...straight on.

Is the Tao also the System.....?  

We can see the Tao everywhere, if we care to look.  

We can see the Tao in ourselves, if we care enough to look.  If we have that courage.  

What were donny’s and brett’s problem.....?

The Tao is within.  The Kingdom is within...... but so is everything else.  

Power is within.  Sociopaths learn how to beat the system.  It’s not that hard, if you’re willing to push certain buttons and take certain risks.  It can be hard to tell who is cheating, or how they are cheating.  

Portals and altered states may be involved in the cheating.

Charisma is certainly involved.  

Jesus and Buddha had much charism.  Did they not cheat?  Did they not beat the System?  

As a baseball coach once advised me...... if you are going to make a mistake, make it big.  

The BPWH is my big mistake.  Are you hesitant about sharing this burden?  

Are you hesitant about sharing the Chicken Little moniker?  

Kevin sure is.  

What happens when the sky doesn’t fall..... when prophecy fails?  

Tomorrow, an honest to goodness ET could land on the White House lawn..... and the BPWH would be shot to bits.  

Nothing ventured, nothing lost.  But life is a venture.  Is there any greater venture than the truth?  Is there any less?

smelly has the Truth.  He has the Tao.  

smelly has the raw truth..... naked truth...... for sure he is closer to it than me, kevin, ron or aliyah..... maybe just not kashmir.  


4:10........

Me.....?  I’m just the decorator of the truth..... the story teller of the truth.  Is it her story or history.  I think the latter.  

There is much circumstantial evidence that the scientific story is radically incomplete.  But, more than that, the entire scientific story may have been misconceived.  

Science promised itself, from the outset, to deal with just the facts.  It has stuck to its word.  

Its facts are not in question.  

The question is...... what are those facts about.....?

Are they objective facts about an objective world?  Or do they, rather, document a partial history of our struggle to come to grips with the world?  

Again, I suggest the latter.  

Has that struggle failed?  Far from it.  It exceeded our wildest expectations..... over and over again.  

The final irony of science is that its extreme success casts doubt upon its very first premise....... the objectivity of the world.  

It is as if the world had been expecting our arrival..... our wish was its command, even, or especially, when being extravagant in our wishes.  

Is there now an embarrassment of riches.....?

Certainly for some..... and perhaps for too many.  

Too many.......?  

Perhaps, I say.......

Wouldn’t we all wish to be embarrassed by our riches..... down to every last person on the planet?

The world was meant to be our perpetual cornucopia..... our Utopia.  

I’m not going to even attempt to disprove that possibility..... that very prevalent expectation.  

This is where I should be tempted to admonish us...... let us not store up our riches on Earth.....

I am going to say, though...... there may be more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy.  

And event #259 may point us in that direction...... or it may not.  It may not even exist.  

Now we know how many angels may dance on the head of pin..... 259.  

And who needs angels when our cellphones are ever so much more reliable than those pesky critters?  

Certainly more reliable than Kevin, bless his heart.  


5:50........

Getting information out of Kevin is like pulling teeth.  

Anomalous phenomena are a dime a dozen.  How does #259 auger anything more?  

Only because I suspect that it may be a setup.  It may be part of a system.  But, if system there be, by default, every event is part of it.  Your drinking a cup of coffee certainly does not differ in kind.  

I’m just saying that #259 augers to come with some possibly interesting strings attached..... a bit like Christine Blasey.  In fact, there might even be a potential correlation.  

Yes, every particle in the world is correlated with every other one...... but you know what I mean.  Specifically, I would not be at all surprised if there were a political correlation...... given the additional possibility that some politicians have been briefed about event #259 and Christine, in more or less the same breath.  That’s a stretch, for sure, but do keep in mind what Hamlet said to Horatio.  

If, as someone else said, reality is the sum of all conspiracies ever imagined.... allow an old fart to imagine this one.  It would prove that the angels have a sense of humor.  



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Thanks all for your comments about that experience I had. You've all been very kind and I really appreciate that. 
As for Dan's question.... I think everyone is redeemable in this area but there are exceptions to that.* I think when someone aspires to be a Supreme Court judge, they should be beyond reproach. We don't need sexual predators on the bench. Anyway, good that Kellyanne, who's boss is the biggest misogynist and pussygrabber out there, publicly stated that she too is a victim of sexual abuse. Good for her! Now we know why Trump hasn't fired her yet. (only speculating)

* actually, there are quite a few exceptions to that. Too many to mention here.

99,

Just saying......  you know how at retirements, loyal employees used to be presented with gold watches.  I was just thinking that donny might be presented with his very own golden albatross, presented by someone with strings reaching to the bottom of the rabbit hole.  

Some suppose it’s just another Washington sinkhole.  But, you know what they say, if you dig far enough you just might come out on the other side of....... of the Monad??

The side of extreme unforgiving self- righteousness where the Machiavellian mentality of the self-entitled elite reigns in the top tier and the hive mind prevails below it? That certainly DOES seem to be the direction we're going in... this on a global level.

Well, 99, it’s only fair that you should play the Cassandra, next to my Pollyanna, with smelly comfortably ensconced in the middle.

It’s the funniest thing, if you desire to improve yourself, it costs you all your expectations about what others’ and your own life should be.

It leads you to Awareness, which is Consciousness, which is what we are living in.

It does not just live in us.

If we are only focused on everyone else and how they should be, do we not totally expose our own weakness and lose sight of of ourselves?

Get yourself right first and the rest seems to work out.

That’s why missions are so obviously about an individual avoiding themselves.

Well, you can’t avoid your self, haha, sorry.

It’s a enough to want to improve your lot and allow others to do the same. That is all that is required to step on the path.

America was born from these aspirations.

Some will always take advantage if they can, but most saw the opportunity to improve their lives.

It is not the founders fault that allowed Trump, it is ours for not being vigilant and raising ourselves higher into the sky with the opportunity granted by our rich circumstances.

If I find fault in any, the fault is in me, always in me only.

We let foxes in the hen house and they will kill!

That’s their nature.

Might as well give it all I say.

And lose all care about anyone else’s lot, while allowing all to improve their lot.

It is those who take that away from their fellow Humans we must guard against.

Ourselves first, we learn to watch our step.

We sabotage our own lives secretly until we hear the clarion call.

It’s a tricky line to walk I find, acceptance really is a powerful force, doing not doing is how it’s done.

I do it poorly, but I desire to improve as much as I can with no reward but the improvement.

I encourage all I meet to improve themselves and in so doing the world, use your time wisely.

Got let the muppets be muppets and be ok with it.

I hear you Smelly.

Loud and clear.

How's my driving so far?