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https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t328p150-disclosure-for-u-by-u#19266

This was supposed to be posted here, sorry.

That post from Dan on the other page sounded like a post from Smelly. They truly are combining as one. Dan has been compromised by Smelly, and Smelly by Dan.

Dan,
Are you on twitter? Cy has been posting some videos to twitter.

cw,

I try to stick to one platform.

Cy is more than welcome to come back here.  She owns the place, but  I think she got scared away by Foot.  A lot of folks do.  I’m here to protect you from evil foot.


noon.......

So, the more things change, the more they stay the same.  

I never really understood that, but it applies especially to the portal phenomenon, doesn’t it, smelly?  

That’s how we’re going to save the world..... one portal at a time.

And, when we get there, we’ll know ourselves for the first time.

When you can figure out what we did to Kashoggi, you’ll see how it works. Kinda like LV, only different.


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Dan, muppets don’t understand the Noble Lie.

How many have kept it I wonder?

Yes, let’s play along.

Imagine to be aware like Plato and decide as he did to fool them all for their benefit ultimately.

Maybe that’s wishful thinking and the Devil would think nothing of Humanity falling into nihilism.

This is interesting to me.

It doesn’t strike mortal fear into me.

I am kinda in awe.

This state of awe is important.

What we think is our reality.

Belief is an important ingredient in making a Human Being.

There are wheels within wheels turning here.

I believe Humanity is loved.

smelly,

NFK............

Tell us something we don’t know.


TS,

Not too shabby.......



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Ha

There are two basic types of relationships, with things and people.

We came to see the cosmos as machinery.

This led to Deism.

People aren’t helicopters.

We project our mechanistic view on everything.

We have objectified nature.

The implication of making tools is more fundamental than theory.

We have come to objectify people, so Heideigger says.

We are a corporate body.

The Man is in all of us. The collective.

To live authentically is to heed the call of the inner man.

The Outsider continues work begun in Being and Time.

We are thrown back into consciousness and if we can avoid dogma we will face Death head on.

We have a social and personal history, our actions are mostly predefined by these.

We have an angst about our finiteness.

We have to find our way in history and current experience.

To be a Taoist would be inauthentic for me, I was born into Christianity.

I’m the Dude.

We form ourselves from chosen histories.

We should be coherent.

I can study anything, but I must be authentic and coherent.

This is possible in this time for the first time.

We now live in a global context.

So how do we authentically consider history?

The conservative view is antiquarian.

Every ideal is a response to pressure. We must deconstruct history critically.

This was how Marxism formed.

Then there is a monumental history.

Any growth must be deeply rooted.

The great ideas of the past become inspiration.

This is authentic.

So facing an existential threat ground yourself.

Then branch.

We counter balance with history and then swing out to jump to the next rock.

We are Western Man and must embrace history critically and monumentally.

Get it pinballs?

That’s the game.

Do the work of digging into history and remaking yourself or
you are just a superficial muppet.

Dan helped me here a lot.

Well, I helped myself.

So reign it in sloth and tighten that belt up, there is work to do and we can’t just go flitting around.

Know and ground theyself in both Worlds.

smelly wrote:
I am kinda in awe.

This state of awe is important.

Like I said.... maybe something to include in the overall effort?

cwallatruth wrote:
Smelly,
Perhaps something to add to your upcoming research... the awe scale:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/can-you-quantify-awe/

This "awe" concept has hit synchronicity level in past couple of days so I felt the need to share.

If you are in awe, you are being meta programmed.

Enjoy.

smelly,

I apologize, I didn’t read your earlier post with sufficient care.......

What strikes me now is the concept of the noble lie......

I now realize that ‘Felix culpa’ bears a strong resemblance to noble lie.  

Felix culpa is one of God’s versions of the noble lie......

For instance........ the grand deception leads to the great apostasy.  

Scientific materialism leads to the great apostasy, which is the best possible setup for chicken little.  

Yes.  Tell me I’m wrong.......

IOW, the apparent invincibility of scientific materialism was God’s little noble lie to us, sapients.  That provides my entree.  

IOW, sports fans, astronomy is fake news, just like Khashoggi.  

Astronomy went over the top with Cosmic Chirps. Khashoggi went over the top with the stereo screams.



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That is why we have them up against the wall, isn’t it.

Felix culpa, yes.

They are only half seeing and that was apparently on purpose.

Maybe you aren’t read in to the level you think you are old man, haha.

Pay attention and you might learn a thing or two from the smelly goat.

I guess the question is does the music ever stop?

When will we be ready to start writing and playing it.

That will probably be under cover of the noble lie of idealism and happen under our noses.

Romanticism is a clue to the bigger game.

Imagination won’t be defined or denied.

We must live with and become comfortable with more uncertainty.

When does the music stop.......?

In 1000 years.

That was too easy.  Ask me something I don’t know.......

God’s goat has been sticking its tongue ???? out at me for too long.  

Now, the Catfish has got your tongue.......?

It will take a thousand years to unravel the cosmic knot we call the Earth.  And you can just call me ‘Alex’,  for short.  

I was going to suggest that you send me one of these for Xmas, but the Princess already beat you to it....... https://www.amazon.com/ALEX-Toys-DIY-Knot-A-Mermaid-Novelty/dp/B000F1OPGY

See, smelly, we’re not as stupid as we look.  


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What a scrawny chicken.

Knot you say...

“The knot of the Universe is a fool’s knot; for all it seems Gordian, pull but firmly, and it ravels out. It is this seeming that is all the mischief; gloomy is the gulf, and the clouds gather angrily in monstrous shapes; the false moon flickers behind them; abyss upon abyss opens on every hand. Darkness and menace; the fierce sound of hostile things!

One glimmer of starlight, and behold the golden bridge! Narrow and straight, keen as the razor’s edge and glittering as the sword’s blade, a proper bridge if thou leanest not to right or left. Cross it — good! but all this is in the dream. Wake! Thou shalt know that all together, gulf, moon, bridge, dragon and the rest, were but the phantasms of sleep howbeit, remember this, that to cross the bridge in sleep is the only way to waking.”

A hint at the bigger lie I think, sleep.

smelly wrote:I guess the question is does the music ever stop?

When will we be ready to start writing and playing it.

When did the music ever begin?

When will we not be ready to start writing and playing it?

The music does not stop in 1000 years, it began in 1000 years.

TS,

Wrongo..........

It began this morning.......

I’m half deaf, and I’m hearing it distinctly.

Well, if you're half deaf, maybe only half of it started this morning.

dan wrote:TS,

Wrongo..........

It began this morning.......

I’m half deaf, and I’m hearing it distinctly.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_ear_syndrome

Musical ear syndrome (MES) describes a condition seen in people who have hearing loss and subsequently develop auditory hallucinations. "MES" has also been associated with musical hallucinations, which is a complex form of auditory hallucinations where an individual may experience music or sounds that are heard without an external source.[1] It is comparable to Charles Bonnet syndrome (visual hallucinations in visually impaired people)[2] and some have suggested this phenomenon could be included under this diagnosis.

Thank you PF, this is sure evidence of Dan's hallucinations.



Mistah Kurtz—he dead.

A penny for the Old Guy

I
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us—if at all—not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II
Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer—

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III
This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V
Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

-TS ..... Eliot

TheSloth wrote:Thank you PF, this is sure evidence of Dan's hallucinations.

Just to be clear, I'm not a doctor and quoting a wikipedia page isn't a diagnosis.

And chicken little is the master of whimpers..........

How do we spell..... WoM/MoAPS.......?

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Smelly is a master of bangs, this is why you two are perfect for each other.

TS, slow and calm down, really man.

We don’t need a pile on, we need focus and discipline.

Stream of consciousness in another thread dude.

Funny me saying that, but I showed up and did my work.

You have to find a deep sense of this on your own.

You can’t work from a cheat sheet.

You have to ingest and sit with it.

Alright Smells, focus and discipline.

Is there anything that is not a stream of consciousness?

I'm showing up.

I'm doing the work.

I have a deep sense of this on my own.

Everything is a cheat sheet.

You just have to go with the flow Dude.

Relax.