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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by dan Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:02 am

    Thank you, everyone, for your forbearance.  

    I’m not wild about the poster idea, but it might be necessary.  The second one is less bad than the first, which might have been a toothpaste add.  My only other trademark would be my photo with Kashmir, which at least has a story behind it.

    smelly is right.  This would have to be a zen campaign, which is no campaign at all.  

    It would have to be socially mediated.  The closest one I have to being St Paul is AP, with his Big Love.  

    The closest we have to a slogan is that the Truth is not out there..... it is in here.  This is about the news from nowhere.  

    Yes, this is about managing magic.  It might take off on the coattails of a botched US election cycle, but it would mainly be global.  

    The Rama group, introduced to me by Buddy is the closest thing we might have, presently, to a grass roots organization.  And, of course, they’ve never heard of chicken little.  

    Gary Bekkum might remember the idea of the Eschatological bus tour..... another campaign gimmick.  

    If, for instance, we could persuade David Wilcock and Steve Bassett to get on board, we might have something.   Even that is a high bar.  

    And then there are the 10,000 that have been briefed, half of them being billionaires.  That ought to be good for something.  But this is definitely not a problem to throw money at.  

    The quintessential ufo incident is the Betty Adreasson affair, where the visitors troop into Betty’s kitchen asking for burnt meat.  It turns out that they are looking for a Truth that has been tested by fire.  

    Everyone of us has that Truth inside of us, simply because we know that we are not here by accident.  We can only be uniquely individual chips off of the cosmic Source.  We are God playing hide and seek.

    And let’s win this one for the Gipper, please......


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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:39 am

    Hi all.  I've discovered this site through following Grant Cameron.  Can't recall if he divulged his username on here, but it would be nice to know who everyone is on here that is also out in the public: Dan = Dan Smith, AP = Alien Protocols, who is everyone else?.... assuming that information is able to be shared.  Understood if not.  Thank you all for what you are contributing, unless of course it's all disinformation, then thank you for entertaining us. Smile

    I'm going back to all of the previous posts that Dan has suggested, trying to not only get caught up, but also decipher this parable ridden world of OMF.  It's not an easy undertaking.  I'm captivated by the zen like vibe and when I hear Dan say "We are God playing hide and seek", it reminds me of Alan Watts, who's truth I completely resonate with.

    I have so many questions, which I suspect no one will be able, or willing, to answer.  So I'll simply ask... what can the layperson do?  What is everyone's goal here and what can an "awake" person like myself do to help?  Constantly seek more awakeness?  I like to think I'm doing that.  What specific to ET contact, or disclosure, or "grass roots" efforts is everyone hoping and wishing for from the general public, if anything?
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    Post by hobbit Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:13 am

    cwallatruth wrote:Hi all.  I've discovered this site through following Grant Cameron.  Can't recall if he divulged his username on here, but it would be nice to know who everyone is on here that is also out in the public: Dan = Dan Smith, AP = Alien Protocols, who is everyone else?.... assuming that information is able to be shared.  Understood if not.  Thank you all for what you are contributing, unless of course it's all disinformation, then thank you for entertaining us. Smile

    I'm going back to all of the previous posts that Dan has suggested, trying to not only get caught up, but also decipher this parable ridden world of OMF.  It's not an easy undertaking.  I'm captivated by the zen like vibe and when I hear Dan say "We are God playing hide and seek", it reminds me of Alan Watts, who's truth I completely resonate with.

    I have so many questions, which I suspect no one will be able, or willing, to answer.  So I'll simply ask... what can the layperson do?  What is everyone's goal here and what can an "awake" person like myself do to help?  Constantly seek more awakeness?  I like to think I'm doing that.  What specific to ET contact, or disclosure, or "grass roots" efforts is everyone hoping and wishing for from the general public, if anything?

    Howdo, and welcome.

    I use the name hobbit due to myself been mainly involved in non visible field detection via dowsing.
    I also live in the shires of England.


    This field detection reveals multiple dimensions where consciousness flows between and enables this crackpot 3d physical world to exist and maintain.
    It reveals multiple other dimensions of non physical relative to 3d, and that's where our eternal selves are.


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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:05 am

    Hobbit, are you able to elaborate on "non visible field detection via dowsing"? What methods do you employ and what benefit / objective are you seeking?
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    Post by Sign Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:11 am

    I'm sure Grant is getting commission from C.y or Dan for everyone he sends.. Very Happy

    cwallatruth Take no notice of anything said here its all BULL SHIT or Goats Shite as smelly would have put it

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    Post by hobbit Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:19 am

    cwallatruth wrote:Hobbit, are you able to elaborate on "non visible field detection via dowsing"?  What methods do you employ and what benefit / objective are you seeking?

    It's akin to hearing, or seeing, or smelling.

    Except You utilise dormant senses via Your own field.
    Our fields enter and exit via the palms of our hands and soles of our feet.

    By utilising implements to enable this to be seen by our eyes it is then possible to measure and follow consciousness.
    A better connection begins to occur with other fields, and an ability to attune to whatever field one desires to is achievable( akin to a radio)

    A KNOWING develops where information transfers field to field.

    So called healing develops where in reality it is HEAL THYSELF where consciousness is transferable one field to another.

    I can detect the matrix of multi dimensions, it is measurable, it is geometric, it varies in locations where consciousness flows inwards/outwards of this planets field.

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    Post by hobbit Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:30 am

    cwallatruth wrote:Hobbit, are you able to elaborate on "non visible field detection via dowsing"?  What methods do you employ and what benefit / objective are you seeking?

    My prime driver is to best comprehend the system of creation.
    Due to our almost total belief in 3D science and non existent gods We have totally lost touch of reality.


    I used to work as a service engineer, and unless You know how something works , you cannot repair it.

    It is abundantly clear that the system We exist in is in absolute ignorance to humans presently.


    Next time I enter a vehicle upon this planet I hope to have raised the knowledge of how universe operates above the ignorance presently.


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    Post by whoknows Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:13 am

    smelly wrote:Kill them first, anyone over 1 million in net worth, off with their herds.

    Don't worry about the people with money that is only an illusion. On the other hand the few people who control the majority of Earths resources are another matter. If you can find out who they are you may actually find the answer. But, alas I fear the tableau appears to show a deeper human flaw. This procrustean prejudice Is I think the flaw we should seek to expel.

    Maybe the universal minds need to hit the reset button. Unfortunately for Ron, I think he would be one of the first to go.

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    Post by cwallatruth Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:35 am

    hobbit wrote:

    By utilising implements to enable this to be seen by our eyes it is then possible to measure and follow consciousness.
    A better connection begins to occur with other fields, and an ability to attune to whatever field one desires to is achievable( akin to a radio)

    A KNOWING develops where information transfers field to field.

    So called healing develops where in reality it is  HEAL THYSELF where consciousness is transferable one field to another.

    I can detect the matrix of multi dimensions, it is measurable, it is geometric, it varies in locations where consciousness flows inwards/outwards of this planets field.

    hobbit


    Hobbit, can you expound on "By utilising implements to enable this to be seen by our eyes"? What exactly do you use and/or do to enable this to be seen by your eyes?
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    Post by 99 Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:06 am

    "The Truth is not out there..... it is in here"

    Great Slogan! I love it!

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    Good to see you here cwallatruth! Smile
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    Post by hobbit Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:11 am

    cwallatruth wrote:
    hobbit wrote:

    By utilising implements to enable this to be seen by our eyes it is then possible to measure and follow consciousness.
    A better connection begins to occur with other fields, and an ability to attune to whatever field one desires to is achievable( akin to a radio)

    A KNOWING develops where information transfers field to field.

    So called healing develops where in reality it is  HEAL THYSELF where consciousness is transferable one field to another.

    I can detect the matrix of multi dimensions, it is measurable, it is geometric, it varies in locations where consciousness flows inwards/outwards of this planets field.

    hobbit


    Hobbit, can you expound on "By utilising implements to enable this to be seen by our eyes"?  What exactly do you use and/or do to enable this to be seen by your eyes?

    Dowsing rods.

    Then they show what Your field is attuning to.

    If You were to place 50 solid walls several feet apart I can mark a point that would be laser straight through them all simply by focussing upon that line over anything else.

    That's how the pyramids were layed out to fit the matrix locally.

    It is about focus, we can look into the matrix anywhere, if we focus, anywhere, anytime....forward is difficult.

    I have trained myself to be able to switch focus instantly, thus all the different parts of a jig saw beyond description are easily accessed.

    It is all about field....fields within fields within fields.

    Universe is fabulous beyond words, 3D been but a compression of consciousness locally.

    No-thing actually exists, except as an at rest memory within it's own unique field of consciousness.
    I have concentrated upon the measure and geometry of the matrix, and how a duality of spin flows upon it, thus I am at one with it and the serpent like flows that travel along it.

    I was able to due to having an empty field content, with little indoctrination filling it, You need to recognise universe to interact with it.

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    Post by Sign Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:44 am

    99 wrote:"The Truth is not out there..... 

    it is in here" Mad Great Slogan! I love it!

    Problem is 99 its not true..
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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:25 pm

    99 wrote:"The Truth is not out there..... it is in here"

    Great Slogan! I love it!

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    Good to see you here cwallatruth! Smile

    I agree 99 its a great and 'truthful' pitch!

    Yes welcome aboard cwallatruth Smile

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    Post by Guest Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:39 pm

    cwallatruth,

    Everything you need to know about this group can be found in the middle of Dan’s most recent post. You will find info in the midst of Dan’s rantings about being the Messiah or the next president, that will raise your eyebrows. It’s the whole information encased in the plausible deniability stuff that Grant talks about. Here’s an idea of what I’m talking about.

    “And then there are the 10,000 that have been briefed, half of them being billionaires. That ought to be good for something. But this is definitely not a problem to throw money at.”
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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:54 pm

    I am starting to feel like he is going to win!
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    Post by hobbit Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:56 am

    Foot Mann wrote:I am starting to feel like he is going to win!

    https://thelethaltext.me/2018/04/24/rife/

    IF? he does will He right some wrongs by past Americans?, as above?

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    Post by Foot Mann Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:54 am

    Indeed he will!
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    Now if we could only figure out how to move 200 million muppets within.

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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:41 am

    We recruited about 100,000 human participants to play an online video game that incentivizes fast, sustained input of unpredictable selections and illustrates Bell-test methodology9. The participants generated 97,347,490 binary choices, which were directed via a scalable web platform to 12 laboratories on five continents, where 13 experiments tested local realism using photons5,6, single atoms7, atomic ensembles10 and superconducting devices11. Over a 12-hour period on 30 November 2016, participants worldwide provided a sustained data flow of over 1,000 bits per second to the experiments, which used different human-generated data to choose each measurement setting. The observed correlations strongly contradict local realism and other realistic positions in bipartite and tripartite 12 scenarios. Project outcomes include closing the ‘freedom-of-choice loophole’ (the possibility that the setting choices are influenced by ‘hidden variables’ to correlate with the particle properties 13), the utilization of video-game methods14 for rapid collection of human-generated randomness, and the use of networking techniques for global participation in experimental science.

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    Post by cwallatruth Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:58 am

    desertdweller wrote:cwallatruth,

    Everything you need to know about this group can be found in the middle of Dan’s most recent post.  You will find info in the midst of Dan’s rantings about being the Messiah or the next president, that will raise your eyebrows.  It’s the whole information encased in the plausible deniability stuff that Grant talks about.  Here’s an idea of what I’m talking about.

    “And then there are the 10,000 that have been briefed, half of them being billionaires.  That ought to be good for something.  But this is definitely not a problem to throw money at.”


    Thank you, desertdweller. What are we plebeians to do at this point? Do we believe Delonge in that our love and ability to project positive vibration are weapons against the bad ETs and so we should be practicing that for the coming war? Do we give up all material and live off the land and serve people? What is it that the powers that be are promoting is the answer and where are the major disagreements on what the answer is? If it is at all possible to summarize.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:39 am

    cwallatruth wrote:
    desertdweller wrote:cwallatruth,

    Everything you need to know about this group can be found in the middle of Dan’s most recent post.  You will find info in the midst of Dan’s rantings about being the Messiah or the next president, that will raise your eyebrows.  It’s the whole information encased in the plausible deniability stuff that Grant talks about.  Here’s an idea of what I’m talking about.

    “And then there are the 10,000 that have been briefed, half of them being billionaires.  That ought to be good for something.  But this is definitely not a problem to throw money at.”

    Thank you, desertdweller.  What are we plebeians to do at this point?  Do we believe Delonge in that our love and ability to project positive vibration are weapons against the bad ETs and so we should be practicing that for the coming war?  Do we give up all material and live off the land and serve people?  What is it that the powers that be are promoting is the answer and where are the major disagreements on what the answer is?  If it is at all possible to summarize.

    Haha.

    What are you to do indeed.

    No one here has any idea.

    Maybe try trusting you and doing not doing for your self Wink

    Then maybe you can tell us what you find.
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    Post by jofo Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:09 am

    GSB/SSR wrote:Quantum information Trumps immaterialism?

    Perhaps more shockingly, our encoding procedure can
    be interpreted as non-classically influencing the past; hence this decentralized quantum blockchain
    can be viewed as a quantum networked time machine.


    An audacious direction of research stems from the view
    that at each node, our encoding procedure can be interpreted
    as influencing the past. With all such nodes connected
    through quantum channels, the blockchain can be
    viewed as a quantum networked time machine. On the
    theoretical front, the system design may be harnessed
    to invent other useful applications where the full network
    collectively influences the past in non-classical ways
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    this may also lead a type of information-theoretic investigation
    into the nature of time [36, 37]. Furthermore,
    unlike general relativistic time machines [38–41], all the
    subcomponents of this system have shown to be realizable
    [22–24, 27]; this suggests the possibility to experimentally
    probe time travel paradoxes through quantum
    information. At the very least, this proposal would lead
    to direct experimental probes of quantum causality


    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.05979.pdf

    pseudo-science gobbletygook designed to confuse and distract

    utter non-sense

    what actually has Hal produced as evidence for any of his theories (read fantasies, fictions, made up non-sense)?
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    Post by jofo Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:13 am

    direct experimental probes of quantum causality? how can one probe directly something that is quantum in nature. the notion is contradictory in and of itself. the desperation to explain the unexplainable is so ridiculous

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