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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:07 pm

    It's that time of month when the moon is full.
    I won't sing too much though.
    Just a little rhyme for Dan about the buzzing hums.
    Laughing

    See ya!
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    Post by 99 Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:33 pm

    Wow, I made up a tune right on the spot for that beautiful poem Ack using the second stanza as the chorus. Might record it later after I compose background music for it. Smile
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:20 pm

    Thanks 99! Smile

    I have one more for all the Aspergers out there, that includes me. Wink

    No tune or hum can sing the song
    This twisted branch of pine
    Cut down the tree to watch it die
    Grotesque this word ‘divine’
    Fall back to earth and dust and rock
    To free the flesh from time

    The melody draws water down
    The rhythm lights the flame
    The harmony burns what flesh is left
    Sweet symphony of pain
    Now ashes heaped upon the earth
    She sends her tranquil rain

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    Post by dan Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:06 am

    From an atomic point of view, the second law of thermodynamics is the easiest thing to explain.  From an idealist point of view, it is the most difficult.

    We are caught in the middle of that dilemma.  It is the push and pull of Creation.  We are mortals, after all.  Well, that is the most important illusion.  It must be maintained, at all cost.  The cost is atomism, and all that good stuff.  

    The cost is metabolism.  Atoms go along for that ride...... it’s paddle to the sea......

    We’ve paddled to the sea.  Now we paddle back to the Source..... sometimes via portals.  

    Sometimes I walk the line..... the painted stripe at the edge of the road.  I notice that it flakes.  Who ordered that?  That’s life.

    But who counts those flakes?  It is the same guy?  

    He must be awfully busy.  Poor guy.  

    Can we take any of that burden off his shoulders?  

    Atoms are sooooo convenient.  

    Atoms rattle in the void...... wonderful.  But I really don’t want atoms rattling in my head.  

    Can we explain atoms with morphic resonance......?

    We do have Fourier transforms, as with the Quantum...... you know, particles to waves, and back to particles.  

    Monism is about the Wave.  Pluralism is about the particles.  We’re the particles...... paddling to the sea.  

    Portals......?  Well, they generate the interference patterns in the explicate order.  

    Speaking of which.......
    I spoke with John regarding the phone conversation. He assured me that he approved your invitation and offered to arrange transportation. All that was required is that you meet him at the designated location and time to embark. He also offered to participate in alternative transportation at your convenience.

    Now that Paul Price spilled the beans regarding Kevin's series of promotions, we are going to host a celebration of proportion to commemorate his achievements. Most likely this will be done simultaneously in ...... and a parallel location. I hope you can participate in that as well. From the President on up, everyone is overjoyed with the POJG's accomplishments.
    As we paddle to the sea.......

    I think this may be what the explicate/young Bohm was getting on about..... with his pilot waves.  

    The devil is in those details..... where we sign on the dotted line.  

    Or did you forget...... we all signed that contract.  

    I guess I’m just a Covenantalist.  


    11:30.........

    Paranoid,

    Yes, you are.  

    I think he said, from the President on up.......

    Why don’t you leave the paranoia to the President.  He is very good at it.  You might also consider the Paranoid style in American politics.  Robert and Richard were probably cousins.  DeWitt figured in both of their lives.  He turned both of us on to physics..... small world department.  

    Paranoia is all about the smallness of the world.  It’s twin is claustrophobia.  Me.....?  Hey, I’m prone to pronoia.  


    In the explicate order, pilot waves are telling us how to conjure atoms out of the cosmic Resonance.  Isn’t that where the cosmic chirps come from?  I worked it out with a pencil.  

    After all, the Cosmos is infinite in everything except size....... all you Trekkies will just have to enjoy smelly’s Tea Party, in your costumes.  I’ll bring my chicken costume.  

    If smelly doesn’t like the world, we now know who he needs to complain to.  That person would be the one who runs the lemonade stand in Cheetahland.  Just tell her that smitty sent you...... it’s my nickel....... that’s how we turn on dime/time...... it’s child’s play, after all.  

    Alternative transportation....... is that how I got back from Sausalito that time?  That was fun......

    It’s probably all about the explicate and implicate orders.  Princess said that portals were all about entanglement.  Atoms are just the flip side of entanglement.  There is a quantum aperture there.  

    Seeing the chirps and the atoms requires a big aperture.  

    The Earth is a pretty big aperture, don’t you think.

    Didn’t you know that the Earth is a phased array? That’s what Ron is trying to figure out.  Well, Ron, a hexacopter is just another sort of phased array, like the Princess’ pod.  We are the fat ladies in that array. Be careful what we wish for.


    ...... otl .......


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:44 am

    I've been wondering what the connection is between military intelligence, popular esotericism, UFO groups as influence fronts, and the oil oligarchies in the US, Russia, and the Middle East.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:25 am

    Dan, you are singing the ME song!!!

    I know...the jester always steals the show.

    We are ALL the show after all.

    When you are smiling at all the world around you
    You are awake to the best life can offer
    When you cry at all the world around you
    You will feel it’s deep endless pain

    Ah but wait little flowers...

    The song has not been sung yet
    You can sing a bar or two

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    Post by dan Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:32 am

    smelly,

    Are you the fat lady they’ve been telling ME about?
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    Post by @awestruckt Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:42 am

    Re: Paul Price spilling the beans....

    https://youtu.be/8uqAFp2xUAQ

    ...he even mentions interactions w/ Ron, Joe Firmage, Kevin, the widget at the lake, etc....


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:50 am

    dan wrote:smelly,

    Are you the fat lady they’ve been telling ME about?  

    Who knows anything?

    That isn’t a nihilistic question, I’m not anything but this.

    Nothing can be known objectively.

    Very funny you mentioned tea party today, a syncronicity.

    My old tea friend contacted me this morning and said maybe we will see you again soon.

    We were both sharing about the crazy spidering effect it had in our lives. How it enhanced what we always are.

    I didn’t need to keep drinking it, I got the message.

    I took the part of the Mad Hatter, but I guess the Fat Lady is in here too.

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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:34 am

    dan wrote:
    Paranoid,

    Yes, you are.

    It's my name and I'll why if i want to,
    why if I want to,
    why if I want to!

    Steve Pieczenik, Harvard alum psychiatrist. Robert David Steele, former CIA. Both Pizzagate disseminators. Avid Trump supporters. Anti 'deep state' promoters (while being part of the so-called deep state)

    David Wilcock. UFO and western esotericism pundit. Often interviewed on the TV show Ancient Aliens. Also of Gaia TV, along with Laura Eisenhower among others. Also Pizzagate promoters.

    Who backs all this? Why the Koch Brothers! US oil barons. And Mercer. And Russians such as Khodorkovsky. All with ties to the Trump campaign and Putin.

    I'd say US UFO and esotericist groups are being used as part of a larger campaign through social media (along with white nationalists) to divide the electorate in support of oil (who backs the GOP). Ironic since New Age types are typically environmentalists. But hey, your coalition doesn't have to know - or even like - each other as long as they vote together.

    Right?
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:38 am

    Nunia.binus wrote:Re: Paul Price spilling the beans....

    https://youtu.be/8uqAFp2xUAQ

    ...he even mentions interactions w/ Ron, Joe Firmage, Kevin, the widget at the lake, etc....

    Price is a nobody. Call us all when it's Sonny White. Or Martin Tajmir. Or James Woodward. And they publish in a peer reviewed journal.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:57 am

    ParanoidFactoid wrote:
    dan wrote:
    Paranoid,

    Yes, you are.

    It's my name and I'll why if i want to,
    why if I want to,
    why if I want to!

    Steve Pieczenik, Harvard alum psychiatrist. Robert David Steele, former CIA. Both Pizzagate disseminators. Avid Trump supporters. Anti 'deep state' promoters (while being part of the so-called deep state)

    David Wilcock. UFO and western esotericism pundit. Often interviewed on the TV show Ancient Aliens. Also of Gaia TV, along with Laura Eisenhower among others. Also Pizzagate promoters.

    Who backs all this? Why the Koch Brothers! US oil barons. And Mercer. And Russians such as Khodorkovsky. All with ties to the Trump campaign and Putin.

    I'd say US UFO and esotericist groups are being used as part of a larger campaign through social media (along with white nationalists) to divide the electorate in support of oil (who backs the GOP). Ironic since New Age types are typically environmentalists. But hey, your coalition doesn't have to know - or even like - each other as long as they vote together.

    Right?

    That’s some good steaming paranoia PF, good show.

    *puff* *puff* pass...

    I’m immune to conspiracy theories and paranoia.

    The more pot I smoke, the more green it all seemz.

    Oh, and I have no politics but chaos and farts and I am incorruptible, but it’s hard if they send me hot women, my weakness I must confess. But Marissa tamed this old goat, why she wants me, I have no idea.

    Dan, Marissa jokes often you sent her, I believe it.

    Anyhoo, keep things personal I say and keep it simple.

    Somehow my woman, my dogs, my garden, my connections to things around me, are the meaning of my life.

    I have to be a good tender to those things close to me.

    The same is true for each of us.

    The world waaaay out there is mostly lies.

    Clever lies of snakes.

    I see through the whole game.

    Aw, gee, that’s the endz.


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    Post by jofo Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:01 am

    fat hatter smelly goat

    it doesn't ring
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:02 am

    jofo wrote:fat hatter smelly goat

    it doesn't ring

    An old fat dumb loud smelly goat

    How’s that?

    Ha.

    *puff* *puff*

    Smelly Dan...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:09 am

    Smelly Dan, get it clear, I fucking love the world as it is!

    Don’t touch it!

    It’s perfect!

    Do you know what a feat it was for me to arrive here with the likes of master Jesters as Trump about?!

    Stop misunderstanding who I AM.
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:29 am

    Full moon at 21.20.
    But already the flows are beginning to reverse.
    Blood moon.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:33 am

    I’ll be out with the telescope tonight and will post a video of the blood moon and mars.

    What a sight to see them up there together, Mars dancing with the Moon.

    Fun fun to get a sense of objects spinning in space which is nowhere.
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:42 pm

    smelly wrote:I’ll be out with the telescope tonight and will post a video of the blood moon and mars.

    What a sight to see them up there together, Mars dancing with the Moon.

    Fun fun to get a sense of objects spinning in space which is nowhere.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q





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    Post by mion Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:46 pm

    hobbit wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q

    great soundtrack!
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:49 pm

    smelly wrote:I’ll be out with the telescope tonight and will post a video of the blood moon and mars.

    What a sight to see them up there together, Mars dancing with the Moon.

    Fun fun to get a sense of objects spinning in space which is nowhere.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q





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    Post by hobbit Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:57 pm

    And the dreams I have are red and gold.

    Where I walk My dogs.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:23 pm

    mion wrote:
    hobbit wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk5frp6-3Q

    great soundtrack!

    The universe is so fucking beautiful and transparent and poetical and terrifyingly big it makes me weep like a baby and my insides turn to jello.

    I dance around, but it’s only as a rag doll in the flames of love.

    How can Dan say I don’t love this place?!

    Seeing through the illusions...

    Humans still are mostly incredibly stupid.

    To be caught up in these flames is not divine, it’s insanity...

    What do you see?

    This is what I see when I look into the mirror...

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    Post by mion Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:27 pm

    I'm guessing Smelly is visiting Florida?

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Spirit-Airlines-Flight-Diverted-LaGuardia-Florida-Myrtle-Beach-Hazmat-Odor-489318601.html
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    Post by Just wandering Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:14 pm

    OMG! What did I sleep through?

    What the forked tongue is going on here?

    Beautiful Red & Gold

    We're not in Kansas anymore Dorothy

    And that's not the Emerald city.

    Something about hovering buzzards?

    Cry doth that face from Red look down upon us.

    Barren in all form.

    Oh wait, I see a reflection.

    Did it look up so long

    Life left for nothing?

    Your reflection bites hard

    when you fall through that mirror

    and you rock your world.

    Oh wait, no, it's ALL a reflection.

    Stupid chasing shadows

    starry eyed.


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    Post by Just wandering Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:28 pm

    Ellie. A bright star in the black knight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBf2v4mLM8k

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