Three in One

First topic message reminder :

Here we have a slightly new departure, inspired by desert dweller.

Let’s see what happens.  Hopefully, we’ll come up with a better title.  

This is a slight detour from the Great Distraction in the Sky.  

Yes, I have claimed to be a monist, but it seems that you can’t be a monist and Personalist at the same time.  More technically, we’re talking three persons in one substance.  

There is to be a strong emphasis on history, as inspired by Joachim da Fiore, where Disclosure leads us into the age of the Spirit.  

Folks who don’t buy into this Metanarrative are welcome to argue against it, but they are not welcome to be continually advocating some alternative or for nothing.  

Personalism is the name of this Game.  

All other gamers are invited to state their games, but game elsewhere.  Thanks for the understanding.  

I hope that this will reduce the confusion in these parts.

And I do hope and trust to have the continued understanding of Cyrellys.  If an open mind is not to lead to nihilism, we must respect the personal nature of mind and of mind’s ‘objects’.  


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There are several artifacts that need pointing out...... specific links will be given later.......

The mnemonic

The earlier blogs and websites.  

The abortive BPWiki..... it should be resurrected, in due course.

KWF and the Chronicles

There are various YouTube channels, which might be pointed to.

Etc.......


We must respect other persons, at all times.  

We must respect others’ opinion, as long as those opinions may be cogently argued, and that includes arguing that said opinions deserve the label of being a better BPWH.  And, by the way, that mnemonic is for best possible world hypothesis.  


SR,

Hang in there, please.  

Let me say, however, that there is no outside.  smelly is as near to the outside as you are liable to see in this world.  The outside is parasitic upon the inside, as you may see, pretty clearly in this case.  

What we so faciley refer to as the ‘objective’ is actually the intersubjective.  That is the sense in which I am a monist.  The Monad is the One substance in which all persons reside.  All persons are equal, but, historically, three persons stand out.  In the patriarchal nomenclature of the historian, Joachim da Fiore, we have the age of the father, the age of the son, and the age of the spirit, aka the Aquarian age.    


10:10.........

To inaugurate the Aquarian age, we have TSA, which was just to provide an excuse for the grey lady to clamber aboard.  Following that will be tsa2&3, in that order.  However, it would be more accurate to name it tla3.  This is where J&K come into the picture.  As I have previously mentioned, tla3 is a cover operation, unbeknownst to both j and k, (as was tsa1), but not entirely unbeknownst to the church.  This is what I hear from a sometimes unreliable source.  Seeing is believing, as we say in the disclosure world.  I’m not sure what tsa2 is supposed to be.  tsa2 and tla3 might be the same, for all I know.  Grant may be better informed on this matter.  


Tonight, there will be a three hour Rabbit Hole meeting, with host Grant Cameron, 8-11pm/EDT..... https://zoom.us/j/387693722 . I plan to be there.  


The roll out for tla3 was in Colorado.  I did not attend.  Neither did J or K.  I have received no further information about it.  OM is to be the site for the next phase.  Some links are to be offered, but they are not available, as yet.  The overriding issue is between the physical and the metaphysical aspects of the rattling cage and any associated phenomena, ie, to what degree is this a portal phenomenon?


11:50.........

Sign,

I see that you had a question for me, as to the source of the BPWH........

The source is just my own imagination.  I have never claimed otherwise.   I have never claimed to be a channel or contactee of any sort.  I have only claimed to be an ‘expert’, ie. a former drip under pressure.  

I pursue truth in the only way I know how, ie. logically.  

Science claims to have a hegemony on truth.  I dispute that claim.  

I even dispute their claim to a hegemony on empirical truth.  

The only claim that I might vouchsafe to science is their claim to analytic truth, which I see as an empty claim, since they have no analysand, if I have stated that properly.  


The analysand of personalism is persons, as the analysand of atomism is atoms.  

Persons are the only things in themselves, to paraphrase Kant. All else is derivative therefrom.  

Deists and pantheists, among others, disagree.  

Persons, unlike atoms, do not, cannot, just swerve in the void.  

Persons can hardly exist apart from other persons.  

We are social beings.  There is a hard to define milieu of persons.  The best existing theory of this milieu is provided by panentheism.  

Unless you are an atomist, the only other alternative is pantheism.  Pantheism has no explanatory power.  It can only accept what is.  

Panentheism provides a transcendental dimension.  It provides a vantage from which to critique the world.  It provides a vantage from which to postulate the BPWH.  That is what I have done.  No more.... no less.  


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However, if this is, indeed, the BPWH, then all critique is futile.  

A paradox.  

Yes, but it is a paradox we can live with.  It is a paradox that most of us agree to take upon ourselves..... and share.  

We find freedom in our imagination and poetry, and in imagining God’s Kingdom on Earth.  

Yes, many have tried to storm the gates of that heaven.  

But when we finally get to that Gate, we turn around and realize that our sojourn to that point was, at least, half the fun.  Enjoy.......

smelly has crossed that Jordan.  He curses me for not taking the plunge....... so does the Princess.  Don’t worry about me, I’m just admiring the view.  I have seen life from both sides, now.  

Fear not.  Disclosure is at hand.  It may not be quite what we expected, but it will suffice unto the day.  


You may not treasure your innocence.  Allow me to, vicariously.  This is our childhood’s end, children.... suffer the children to come unto me.  

smelly calls us muppets, derogatorily.  There is no derogation in God’s Kingdom.... not even for smelly.  

I have spoken of our very worst fear.  This is the chyu situation.  I told the Princess that our biggest problem was that we have no problems.  

She looked me in the eye.  I blinked.  

We cannot blink.  

Yes, some were chosen.  Even I was chosen.  Now, all are chosen.  If I have any message, that is my only one.  

Yes, we do circle back to tribalism.  That is from whence we came.

The very last tribalism, on this side, is to be witnessed on the hills of Judaea.  

Come down, out of the hills.  We goyim do not have cooties.  

Is there an or else?  Yes.  Ask Harvey.  

All that’s left is........ me, too......


(cont......)

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AP, don’t listen to me.

Listen to John.

He knows he doesn’t know.

If you know you don’t know, there is nothing to disclose.

I won’t beat you up about it.

Have at the hacking AP.

I have seen clear through you bruh.

But wear your masks.

Shrug.

AP your comments reveal only yourself.

And you get what you need from me, not what you want.

What do I care if you are too closed to receive anythingz.

I’m not serious about anything, but you are so offended, haha.

That is your practice.

Give me a break Fool.

I eat muppets like you for lunch and poop you out and do it again.

I see why you are here clearly.

We all need what you got, oh yah, haha.

Your info will crack it aaalllllll open.

Self Disclosure is the only Way.

Oh brother.

If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

Best advice anyone could give you really.

I doubt you can stop digging, one day maybe.

You can’t even take off your mask.

If you dig to China, they might be able to help you.

Well, dd,

If you wish to see the Antichrist in my postings, help yourself.  

That would be more accurate than seeing me as a fellow preacher.  

No doubt, there is something radical here.  You will need every ounce of your God given discernment.  

.

I’ll leave Dan be, AP, be quiet fool.

Shhhhhhhhh

Obviously, I am the antichrist.

No one can annoy like me.

You are waaaaay too easy for me AP.

Tasty.

Dan

Is not your mind yours and my mind mine? Yes we all come from the same source.

So can you tell me the purpose of this individuation? I don't go for the idea that we all flow namelessly into a god consciousness river. Talk about fruitless causes.

What I am most interested in is the beyond the here and now (material world) that we seem to find our selves bound to for the moment. This isn't just about Abba wiping the tears away. This has to be training, I think.

Dan,

Never saw you as a fellow preacher, nor the spirit of the antichrist.  You aren’t quite gnostic enough .  

And besides, I’m postmil.  Didn’t you know that the Beast was Nero and the Antichrist, Cerenthus?  I’m not worried about it...  Your last post just reminded me of my Masonic, New Age days is all...

Discernment is a reason why I am here...
(Cont...)

DD

LOL oh my. Dude?

Smelly stinky...selfapparently bitter & rageful Eric Garza...
Practice what you babble..,
Be still...like a lakes surface...

And maybe youll learn MORE from the less you expose so much about...

Perhaps... in that TRUE stillness... youll see what we all see.... your anger...& you WILL be able to still it...

Stop pissing on the beautiful flowers in this forum... i ask you...to treat them like YOUR FLOWERS....with love

WK,

Go ahead, elaborate

wk,

..... that we all flow namelessly into a god consciousness river......?  

Well, that would be one way to put it.  I could surely think of worse fates.  

If the river were to have a name, it would be Christ, I imagine.  

I doubt that any verbal designations on our part would begin to do justice to our Omega...... turning back to Alpha.  If you would rather spend eternity in the choir, I imagine that could be arranged, too.  I’m not much of a singer, myself.  


And why do we differentiate in the first place.......?

Hey, everyone likes a parade...... likes a bit of drama.  

Some might suppose that History is just too much of a good thing.  

Well, ok, wk, how much would be the right amount of history, or the best size for the parade, as we march off through the portals.  


(cont.......)

dan wrote:wk,

..... that we all flow namelessly into a god consciousness river......?  

Well, that would be one way to put it.  I could surely think of worse fates.  

If the river were to have a name, it would be Christ, I imagine.  

I doubt that any verbal designations on our part would begin to do justice to our Omega...... turning back to Alpha.  If you would rather spend eternity in the choir, I imagine that could be arranged, too.  I’m not much of a singer, myself.  



(cont.......)

Why this level of individuation?

Hahahaha.

You kill me APretender.

Called you out first post here and u haven’t disappointed since.

What a classic pretender.

What Awareness.

What intellect.

What style.

Naaaaa.

Follow John’s lead, just saying oh one of many opinions.

Have fun, I am, pooping on you.

You asked for it and I have so much poop for you.

That’s goat love for you.

wk,

And what would be the right amount of individuation, pray tell?

Don’t forget that this is not just another drama or parade.  For all practical purposes, this show is the only chance we get, so it’s natural for folks to want to ham it up a bit...... try on every imaginable mask.  

No?

smelly’s not doing so bad, himself.


(cont......)

I love you too
& all...
...very much...

Time ....to....dance!!!

( AP busts out his best moves....then POOOF!....disappears into the LIMEN)

Hope for you yet AP.

The ego can be put on and taken off at will, you know as an actor.

I know I’m acting, and if someone does’t, I have them.

If they take the cheese, then they are mice, if they roar at me, I know they are lions.

So who am I to judge if one is a mouse or Lion, they show me who they are.

Most make the mistake of thinking I’m a mommas boy who hates Jesus and is bitter.

What fools, I have shown them many times who we are.

Well, I know I’m both a fraud and the observer.

Most believe what the ego is fronting.

It’s a lie and something for heroes to fight with.

Don’t fight.

Have tea, let the ego in on the game.

At our center, we don’t know.

We can look and focus anywhere we like and see clearly.

I am making it all up as I go AP, so god must be an annoying dick sometimes

Dan, dd, fellow religious folks, once you reach John Butler’s state we can share our experiences with no offense.

Take his lead.

He’s found IT was here all along.

He is another walking portal of Awareness.

I will find many more.

As always, my compassion is to annoy and cajole and represent awareness on Earth.

It’s a fun easy job.

I just wanted to interject quickly and briefly to thank smelly for the video link to John Butler. How wonderful that was. About half-way thru, though, I was ready to start smacking the interviewer... just shut up and be still with the man!

And don't waste any bandwidth telling me or everyone else how stupid I am... I already know.

Haha Dr Zaius!
Agreed!!!
He is a genius...
& lets me reflect on the vast scope of my own ignorance & stupidity...

Like Dan...he makes me reflect & reanalyze my priorities ...

Touché DrZaius, I think we are all on the same page.

Be like John Butler or your shit is weak ass

I’m as dumb as the rest of you.

Exactly Ack.

See AP, Dan didn’t do much for me, but he is a good feeder league to the Big Leagues, to each his own.

John Butler and ourselves are the real heroes of this show, anyone willing to stand in naked Awareness with no story is my kin.

I came here half-baked already, so it was more an exchange and a dance.

To me, Wallace is onto the best bridge on earth to Science.

Observe the mind and drop closed minded belief in life.

Closed minds open no doors.

Look his other stuff up, he’s deep into the heart of IT IMHO, or cocky opinion.

I posted a debate between him and Sean Carrol in the other thread I thought one of the best I have seen and no clearer have I heard ever on the conflicts between science and no-thingness.

He says it in his video, you are wasting your life me not doing as John and the smelly goat

I will shut up now...for a few mins anyway.

Smelly,

Thanks for sharing that video.  What a delightful man to listen to.  A few things I would differ with him on, but inconsequential to the substance of what he was saying.  When he was talking about the stillness and peace that comes from God’s providence, I was reminded of the way I felt when I taught on that subject for a month while my life was falling apart.  Again, good stuff.  Thanks for sharing.

Life falling apart usually happens when one comes to OMF, before or shortly after, great chance to open more.

I would go farther than John, I use no religious words or concepts for IT.

How could I ever?

How can any of us speak about anything other than our personal experience?

What can anyone honestly believe?

The East has had 5k years on us to develop theories of the mind and learn to step out of it.

I’m develoing my own theories based on my mind observations.

Every post on OMF from me is an experiment in mind observations.

I know how to best muppets now and I practiced on all of you.

John says don’t take anyone’s world for experience, go have one and you will find it all can happen where you stand.

Truth.

We each can be open minded observers of our own minds and share our findings, but orientated from center like John, anything else is a distraction and opinion.

My dream is for a community of fellow inner explorers on a coop art farm.

But I work still for the kingdom of man.

I moonlight for the kingdom of god.

But we are all always in the kingdom of god.

So I made my farm where I was and I created my own community here.  

This is where I am, not at a lake.

dd, you are on the shore of an amazing ocean of Awareness, we all are.

If I drop my mask a sec, it is a privilege to witness the Awareness unfolding on OMF and play my small part.

But if someone is stuck in their mask, they are gonna know it, best thing I can do.

But only we can drop the masks.

I promise sharing it with me is safe, I can’t say the same for the rest.

But I am a dangerous goat with no delusions.

I only repeat my self.

Thanks, smelly.

Dan,

Three in One is your thread.  Are we one the right track?  If not, reorient us.

I’ll leave the thread now, the thread was for you dd.

John wanted to be introduced into OMF and I have obliged.

Dd, I am only on OMF for you.

Only you.

And maybe SR types.

But he is angry and bitter and in pain maybe, like the rest of us at times.

If you haven’t ended your suffering, you can, but to each his own.

Peace.